Powering Hornby Trains With A Scooter Motor & Dangerous Flywheel

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Sam'sTrains

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Another experiment today - can I simulate model train inertia mechanically?
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@highbrookendmodelrailway
@highbrookendmodelrailway 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a good video.... Big motors, big flywheels, lumps of metal rotating at crazy speeds - my electronics engineer inside me is interested. I think if you were able to have a more permanent setup (maybe with the motor hidden in a cupboard) with a less dodgy and more permanent flywheel, this might actually be more cost effective on smaller layouts instead of buying a really expensive inertia controller. I can see where people could go with this Sam - sometimes experiments have to be crazy to start with to find something useful out. Well done once again, great video.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you - it seemed like a good thing to do! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nnrfanoldaccount
@nnrfanoldaccount 3 жыл бұрын
"I do fear for my lower body" Sam, 2020
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha!! xD
@adamchmielewski6162
@adamchmielewski6162 3 жыл бұрын
OOH ME LUCKY CHARMS
@nathanteach7266
@nathanteach7266 3 жыл бұрын
yes heaven above dont use a saw blade. if you haven't got a plate then its best to not improvise.
@thefountainpendesk
@thefountainpendesk 3 жыл бұрын
I think it may just be slightly safer to just turn my gaugemaster controller knob slowly
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that certainly would be safer and easier! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@thefountainpendesk
@thefountainpendesk 2 жыл бұрын
@TheGreenLightbulb Hi there, the most basic Gaugemaster Combi Single-track controller can be found on Rails of Sheffield for just under £40
@thesassieststorkalive5614
@thesassieststorkalive5614 3 жыл бұрын
Sam : Do not try this at home. Also Sam : Begins to try it at home
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - I knew the risks and how to mitigate them ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@johneshort
@johneshort 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains I suggest that next time you try something like this, you wear some goggles.
@ihatetwitch31
@ihatetwitch31 3 жыл бұрын
@@johneshort Agreed
@owenstrains2146
@owenstrains2146 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Cover it in a wood box
@modelrailwaylegend8691
@modelrailwaylegend8691 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant experiment. Well done!!
@Veneno2911
@Veneno2911 3 жыл бұрын
Yes like usual
@Vyn_Solina_0213
@Vyn_Solina_0213 3 жыл бұрын
@@Veneno2911 dang, nice profile Pic.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@JuliaCV9
@JuliaCV9 3 жыл бұрын
"do not try this at home" me building a 1/2 scale version of the mallard about to power it with a V8 big block: what?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha!! That sounds epic!! :D
@pippocalzelunghee
@pippocalzelunghee 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@jurassicsmackdown6359
@jurassicsmackdown6359 3 жыл бұрын
Keep us updated!!!
@jimmyduncan7650
@jimmyduncan7650 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the supercharger 🌝
@RicksPictures_4Official
@RicksPictures_4Official 3 жыл бұрын
I know! Get a infinity stone and put it in your train controller.
@Mackenzie_EV
@Mackenzie_EV 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is a really cool experiment! It's amazing how the machine can simulate realistic locomotive operation on a small(ish) scale! If there was a way to make this into a professional project and refine the design to get rid of the safety hazards, it'd be really cool to see in action on a standard layout.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I thought it was pretty cool too - glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jagc1969
@jagc1969 3 жыл бұрын
You only need to use a DCC decoder.
@johnkuzma7066
@johnkuzma7066 3 жыл бұрын
A safer way I have found is to install super capacitors in the locomotives it provides a lovely affect plus it allows smaller locomotive like a small 0-4-0 locomotives to pass over dead spots (Express points) without even stuttering.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that sounds cool! Are super caps not sensitive to polarity then?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TreniFS_
@TreniFS_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@voltare2amstereo Reverse parallel would make them useless. Polarized capacitors in antiseries behave like non polarized, so this is a proper way to do it.
@finlanddoesnotexist92
@finlanddoesnotexist92 3 жыл бұрын
Sam: “It’s experiment time again” Fire department: *aw s###, here we go again*
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha, it’s a miracle they’ve never had to be called, lol! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@iceeblueburst03
@iceeblueburst03 3 жыл бұрын
3:05 That’s like a dart board almost, LOL! 😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I know - I was scared when I saw that! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@RichardKuivila1947
@RichardKuivila1947 11 күн бұрын
FANTASTIC, SAM ! - 100W, 24V DC motor, 1 Amp from controller. Good HARDWARE match. A better/Safer flywheel and a protective cover and you have a switch in/out Acceleration / Deceleration feature ! Your BEST Tech Video EVER !
@johnhiggins6626
@johnhiggins6626 3 жыл бұрын
Sam's trains: Indexed itself in the wall me: pushes a bed into the wall* me: what it didn't go through the wall
@CrystalLakeRailway
@CrystalLakeRailway 3 жыл бұрын
Its so amazing that this worked, well done!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha me too, thank you! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@emperormajorian112
@emperormajorian112 3 жыл бұрын
Experimentation leads to explosions -Einstein or something
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I guess he was right! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@robbyboy03
@robbyboy03 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment. You can physically see what happens when the inertia is controlled electronically. Cheers Sam. Another brilliant video.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, yeah that's very true actually! Cheers mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mirmoiii2363
@mirmoiii2363 3 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, I have always loved trains yet never found any channels like yours until just now. Well done on the great vid!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - glad to have you aboard! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MSR_Studios
@MSR_Studios 3 жыл бұрын
Hypothesis: train explodes and room catches on fire
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha, it was very possible! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@John73John
@John73John 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, I thought about this for a few minutes and I think you could do a similar thing without the dangerous spinning metal flying around. Just get a large inductor and connect it in series between the controller and the rails. That would take care of gradual acceleration. Then if you put a diode across the controller's output it would allow the inductor to continue powering the train when you shut the controller off, for gradual braking. The only downside with the diode is it only allows forward movement (it'll short-circuit the controller in reverse) but you can put a simple reversing switch between the inductor and the rails and use that for reverse. I have no idea how big an inductor you'd need or how much it would cost. It might be cheaper to make your own by wrapping thousands of coils of wire around an iron bar? Anyway I'd be interested in seeing how a system like that would perform alongside the flywheel setup. Maybe for your next experiment?
@zujiahuang8454
@zujiahuang8454 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! I don't think the inductor will need to be excessively big. In fact I wonder why manufacturers haven't done analog controllers with this kind of function built-in
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
DC based momentum controllers have been around since the mid 1960s. From specialist upmarket model train control makers, not the train set makers. Lately most development has been in DCC to at least replicate what the best DC controllers did.
@zujiahuang8454
@zujiahuang8454 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnd8892 Good info! I'll look them up since my "layout" is just EZ track loop and there's no point to do DCC.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
@@zujiahuang8454 a Google search for model railway inertia momentum controllers. Should be a good starting point to research these inertia and braking controllers for DC further.
@zujiahuang8454
@zujiahuang8454 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnd8892 Thanks!
@GG-0808
@GG-0808 7 ай бұрын
This gives me similar vibes to another KZfaqr called I Did A Thing. Risking his safety with a machine for entertainment. I would never do this. Thank you so much Sam. You are very dedicated.
@johnhiggins6626
@johnhiggins6626 3 жыл бұрын
Sam trains: it's a scooter motor me: buys a electric scooter motor me: kinda different
@wiltothecollector4420
@wiltothecollector4420 3 жыл бұрын
"do not try this at home" naw but i had a spare scooter motor! just joking obviously
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha!! You never know! ;D
@SammyBFilms
@SammyBFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Shyloh W needs to send in a new picture now!! :-)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha probably!! xD
@wellsworthjunction
@wellsworthjunction 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains someone call me?
@Zebrails
@Zebrails 3 жыл бұрын
SAM! You are learning "Regenitive Braking" or "Dynamic Braking"... When trains go downhill, diesel locomotives go into "Dynamic Braking" to turn the big generator/alternator into a load-consumer instead of a power generator and that power goes into the batteries and electronic grid which is then cooled off by the large fan(s); Electric trains in the same manner reroute that power back into the lines held by the catenary system-for other electric trains going up-hill. I'm proud of you! John BC, Canada
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers John - yeah that's exactly right, the very same thing!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Vyn_Solina_0213
@Vyn_Solina_0213 3 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome and also a funny one I can't stop laughing when I see a diner plate and I was blown away on how that thing works brilliant experiment!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you - yeah it was a bit sketchy, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@dbtech7914
@dbtech7914 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 "It's not Dangerous, It's not video worthy!!" What fun would DCC be? That's funny.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha exactly! ;D
@KnapfordProductions
@KnapfordProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this in you experiments category and then saw in the title "powering hornby trains with a scooter motor". Then i saw Mallard in the thumbnail and im like. ''oh yea this is going to be great''. Great video as well. Love your content. 😁 - James
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks James - really glad you liked it! :3 Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 3 жыл бұрын
It these kinda funny shenanigans are why I love watching your videos. Keep up the great work Sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you!! Glad you liked it! :D Cheers, Sam :)
@chriswilson2431
@chriswilson2431 3 жыл бұрын
I knew my advice on wheel balancing weights would be taken on board, not in this way though!!! 😂😂😂 great video. Lots of fun!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I know!! It's amazing the number of uses I've found for them actually, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@rydermike33
@rydermike33 3 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating Sam, many thanks. Science was never that interesting in my school days!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@whatsups3045
@whatsups3045 3 жыл бұрын
What a very interesting experiment. I love the DIY analogue hack nature of this device! Sam will be building two more soon, one for every main line ;-)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks very much, I don’t think I’ll be building any more though! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Ben-Likes-Trains
@Ben-Likes-Trains 3 жыл бұрын
It’s great how it makes small locomotives move like the real thing!-Ben
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben! Glad you thought that was cool! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@masterofsouthern5427
@masterofsouthern5427 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God you and your experiments 😂best way to end a Monday. 🙂🙂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you - and maybe that too! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@cannibalfan333
@cannibalfan333 3 жыл бұрын
Your experiment videos are quite interesting Sam. I love the creative ideas you make for your trains.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much - glad to hear that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@peterbartlett4082
@peterbartlett4082 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent experiment Sam, you would make a super Physics teacher explaining this phenomenon of inertia. Well done!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks so much mate! :D
@blisseyran-dom6822
@blisseyran-dom6822 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting concept that, and as a bonus it worked too. Even learned something new about motors. Really interesting to watch.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Dom! Really glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@henrybangsberg2187
@henrybangsberg2187 3 жыл бұрын
Analog controller inertia devices were the subject of tons of articles in Model Railroader and Railroad Model Craftsmen back in the day. The best mechanical systems were all pairs of motors with a flywheel. The controller was on 1 motor, flywheel in the middle, 2nd motor was a generator for track power. This meant that the power on the track was always directly related to flywheel speed. In the parallel setup Sam shows the flywheel and locomotive are fighting over power from the controller so the results aren't as good.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard about that - that sounds like a much better way to do it - I do like the idea of physical flywheels, but no reason to have them as big and silly as mine! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@stewgy
@stewgy 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a fun great lil experiment.. seriously i'm impressed. Hell yeah sam.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks mate, glad you liked it! :D Cheers, Sam :)
@TheGodsrighthandman
@TheGodsrighthandman 3 жыл бұрын
Sam: "Don't try this at home!" Everybody: "Mum, can we borrow Grandads scooter?"
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha!! xD
@grahamsmith-thompson6827
@grahamsmith-thompson6827 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Sam. Many articles appeared in the model railway press in late 1950's/early 1960s using two ordinary model loco motors, both onboard the loco. They were connected the same way as yours, and, if I can remember that far back, the results were very similar. it was known as the "Free Motor System".
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
Tri-ang actually did make a version of their R55 diesel with a free motor installed. Oscar Paisley may have shown it.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard about that - never knew Tri-ang did one though - very interesting stuff!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Google search for triang r55 diesel noise sound This should show the excellent Weebly site that has photos. Should explain the two motors are connected in series as I recall. To replicate does not need a now rare XO4 but just a similar current characteristic motor. Short lived due to making an old inaccurate model near 10% dearer. Marketed as a sound system as this was simpler to explain. Be interested to see how effective it is compared to standard. May have been mistaken thinking I saw it on KZfaq.
@karlthomson3053
@karlthomson3053 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, long time no see, my computer broke so I couldn't watch your vids. I love it when you do these experiments. :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Awhh sorry to hear that - hope your computer is better soon! Thanks so much!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@LJbradbury
@LJbradbury 3 жыл бұрын
Love the experimental videos Sam, nice one
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Lyndon! :D
@anthonydavies6021
@anthonydavies6021 7 ай бұрын
Hilarious. I think you're still a boy at heart, Sam. Reminds me of when we as boys filled up cans with lids from the domestic gas tap and set fire to them with a pleasing bang. Luckily no injuries or damage resulted but needless to say Mum and Dad were not amused😂
@GaryNumeroUno
@GaryNumeroUno 3 жыл бұрын
Sam's mum... "Sorry son, no supper for you tonight; I cannot find my best China plate!" Back to the experiment Sam, your research tells me that if you were able to add all those extra weights, (to your mum's best China plate) it would take even longer to speed up and conversely slow down, thus improving the look of the slow acceleration and enhancing a much slower looking brake application. We'll make a driver out of you yet mukka! Stay safe. Gary
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha luckily she doesn't know about this - though I bought the plates especially, she still wouldn't be pleased to know good plates were used for something like this!! Yes indeed - the more weight, the more kinetic energy stored per unit speed! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@tmdrm9817
@tmdrm9817 3 жыл бұрын
Sam has gone off his rocker.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
It's finally happened! ;D
@p674mle2
@p674mle2 3 жыл бұрын
great vid sam : ) that is a really good idea : )
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate! :D
@federico339
@federico339 3 жыл бұрын
This is also how dynamic or regenerative braking works, great demonstration really loved it
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely right - I could do another experiment on that maybe!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Toxic_The_Folf
@Toxic_The_Folf 3 жыл бұрын
This is very satisfying and great job it works really well.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you liked it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@guitarstuff4682
@guitarstuff4682 3 жыл бұрын
Hey sam, this was a great idea im preatty sure you can get atcually flywheels online but in other words thus is awesome
@caydenworley5002
@caydenworley5002 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very basic version of what most Hybrid/Electric cars use. It’s basically regenerative braking. Since when you cut power the motors become a generator and take the kinetic energy created from the inertia of the car moving and turn it back into electricity to charge the battery.
@louisbuscarino7330
@louisbuscarino7330 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Reminds me of the science guy on PBS way back when . It would be nice if we could do this on DC also not just DCC., this way everyone could afford this feature. Thanks Sam for another informative video.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! You could definitely do this better on DC with a little heavy flywheel and smaller motor! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nityking1
@nityking1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Tech II Locomotion 2500 controller and it has settings you can use for gradual speeding up and braking. Pretty cool IMO the way you rigged it up.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh cool, I’ll have to look those up! Thanks mate, glad you liked it! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nityking1
@nityking1 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains My pleasure Sam, love your videos
@jonswinfield9336
@jonswinfield9336 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic!!! I love this , such easy to understand physics and a practical way to demonstrate it I bought a whole big box of controllers at a show in the early 90’s Every one works even the old Triang one But one had inertia settings that could be preset I couldn’t believe it it was so realistic Stopping accurately at a station was quite tricky! Bare in mind apart from Hornby Zero 1 digital hadn’t happened then Could you market your spinning plate? I wonder🤔 It turns toys into real trains 👍👍👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Jon - really glad you liked it! Yeah it wasn't bad was it? Better than expected! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidcousins3508
@davidcousins3508 3 жыл бұрын
An awesome experiment Sam ..one of your best
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks very much David! :D
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 3 жыл бұрын
Cool experiment sam, love the weight embedded in the wall, health and safety at it's finest 😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you, I agree!! xD
@jesseasher7520
@jesseasher7520 3 жыл бұрын
currently writing a college essay for my mechanics course and part of it is energy generation/rectification/regulation (charging) in an alternator system. Quite nice to visually see the principle of energy generation through a spinning motor. I'm actually surprised this worked as well as it did. Nice one. If you have a multi-meter you could monitor the voltage drop as the rotor slows down and see the cut off point. It makes me wonder if something like this could be simulated, at least in the acceleration stage, with a restrictive consumer inline (that isn't the big spinning flywheel) that could realistically and *safely* be used. For the deceleration could something like a capacitive discharge work? So many ideas could be opened up with this, what a cool experiment, thankyou for sharing!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse! Yes I was quite impressed with how well it worked too! What I'd really like to do is buy an Oscilloscope and watch the waveform coming out of the motor - that'd be very interesting! Yes that's a good point - I wonder?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@blink-1569
@blink-1569 3 жыл бұрын
i love this channel so much can you show more of the streamlined engines please you are the best
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks so much mate - I'll do my best! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@blink-1569
@blink-1569 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains you just made my day thank you : ) one day i want o have my own model railway like yours! : )
@ausfoodgarden
@ausfoodgarden 3 жыл бұрын
That worked far better than I expected, well done Sam! Of course, I wouldn't dream of trying anything like that. [searches through junk box for a big electric motor] Cheers! A very entertaining experiment👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too! Uh oh - sounds worrying!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@evafan002
@evafan002 3 жыл бұрын
sam you utter madlad.. I dont know if I should laugh my ass off or cry at the sheer insanity that is your contraption
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha, I'd say both is fine! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@foraminuteforaminute4056
@foraminuteforaminute4056 3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, I've just recently renewed my interest in the old Top Gear episodes. (Likely because I just discovered James May's "Sarnies from the Seventies" collection), and this is the most Top-Gear-esque video of yours I've seen.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah I like Sarnies from the Seventies too - funny stuff! Yeah I see what you mean! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@teescottageguyproductions
@teescottageguyproductions 3 жыл бұрын
What you didn’t see on camera was the plate on the top flying off through Sam’s ceiling, flying down south, crashing into Buckingham palace or Windsor castle and lands in the Queens breakfast. Then she says “one did not wish for another plate on ones plate “, “I also didn’t want any magnet things on it”
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha what on earth made you think of that!??!? :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Prometheus2171
@Prometheus2171 3 жыл бұрын
That was amazing, good job man.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot mate! :D
@LleshGordon2122
@LleshGordon2122 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam's train I loved it the channel subscribed. this is going to be good a video. The question big motors, big flying wheels.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Llesh, hope you enjoy it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LoganCorelli
@LoganCorelli 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is an awesome video! Great work!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate!! :D
@LoganCorelli
@LoganCorelli 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Thanks For Watching! -Sam :)
@paulhorn2665
@paulhorn2665 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea and fascinating experiment!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Paul! :D
@TannithVQ
@TannithVQ 3 жыл бұрын
I was alarmed at the prospect of this being the last ever Sam's Trains episode for a minute there,
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha, it's always a possibility! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lewiswrigley8841
@lewiswrigley8841 3 жыл бұрын
Love the experimental videos sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lewis! :D
@lewishughes8541
@lewishughes8541 3 жыл бұрын
Sam your ideas are getting crazier and crazier all the time
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you, I'll take that as a compliment! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@iceeblueburst03
@iceeblueburst03 3 жыл бұрын
Overall, nice crazy experiment you made today! 👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! :D
@davidjackson9317
@davidjackson9317 10 ай бұрын
How to identify a really good Sam's Trains video: It starts with the disclaimer, "Do not try this at home."
@Paraffinmeister
@Paraffinmeister 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between genius and insanity is measured only by success. This video sits very firmly on the dividing line between the 2.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I don't know about that mate, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Paraffinmeister
@Paraffinmeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains I mean the idea itself is genius, however the execution is pure insanity! No problem, always fun to watch, keep up the good work. :)
@georgewolf7063
@georgewolf7063 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Well, that was very amusing! I don't have DCC or anything for my HO trains, but I do have an awesome old Chicago Model International "Sounder" 20MS controller, and my favorite feature has always been the realistic "momentum" feature (I suspect it uses a capacitor like you suggested). It even has a "brake" which slows it down a bit faster.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George! Ahh that sounds pretty interesting - yeah must have been a capacitor system then! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@GenericGeeza
@GenericGeeza 3 жыл бұрын
Just earlier was on the severn valley railway, got back amd watched this while trying to find a model pannier tank with the number 1501
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh nice - hope you had a great day!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@bindonrail46
@bindonrail46 3 жыл бұрын
I think you still would have spilt the coffee's in the restaurant car.... LOL
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! ;D
@random0clock
@random0clock 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that was an interesting video. Good show! Considering the Gaugemaster is a powerful controller, I would have liked to see what happens if you use a less powerful controller, like the Mehano one. Another interesting thing worth mentioning is that this is basically how dynamic brakes work on real electric and diesel-electric locomotives.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a good idea, I’d like to see what happens then too!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@skyfall2360
@skyfall2360 3 жыл бұрын
if you want ultra realisim in model form..then hornbys live steam was brilliant..is brilliant...as close to the real thing you can get but in model form...steam..pressure...smell...superb...interesting video...good stuff!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard a lot about that - would be amazing to get my hands on some of it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LNERA3PRODUCTIONS
@LNERA3PRODUCTIONS 3 жыл бұрын
this is verry interesting but i like it btw i got my hornby terrier today in sr green and i did not realise how small it actually is
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! yes it is amazing how tiny they are! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@tenterdentown2452
@tenterdentown2452 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy I had a vintage wind-up gramophone. It had a very heavy platter - much heavier than your plate, but it was one solid piece of metal with no weights to fly off! I used to disable the regulator, wind it up and release the brake, and the turntable would reach a phenomenal speed! I tried your experiment of powering the turntable with a 12volt motor, but that was nothing like the speed which could be achieved with the clockwork mechanism! So, if you want to do this experiment, get an old wind-up gramophone from eBay!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha that sounds very intriguing - I'll have to look out for one of those! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 3 жыл бұрын
Sam is now the Big Clive of model trains. 🏋🏼‍♀️ 😃
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I can only dream of being that skilled!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@mineit5796
@mineit5796 3 жыл бұрын
And today folks another episode of Sam risking the destruction of his locos.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha pretty much! ;D
@liamcalder1385
@liamcalder1385 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. its a good experiment. I dont think i will be using that on my railway. Hahaha. Well done, Thanks
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I don't blame you at all, thanks mate! :D Cheers, Sam :)
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 жыл бұрын
That actually looks really good. You might well have found a market for something there. With some development that might well be an idea with some potential. The Southern Region actually did use a similar idea in their DC electric locos, the incoming line voltage drove a motor that spun a flywheel, the output from which drove the motors, so there was a steady output and it didn't cut out abruptly when it passed over gaps in the live rial and so on.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yeah maybe - though I think we've moved on too far with DCC for this to even be considered - I might try to make a neater version some time though! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thestartugs3344
@thestartugs3344 3 жыл бұрын
you my good sir are a mad man!!! I love it ^-^
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I'll take that as a compliment! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@trainfanproductions7149
@trainfanproductions7149 3 жыл бұрын
That’s so extreme. I love it.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! :D
@brickswithbreakwell9210
@brickswithbreakwell9210 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. I’m surprised Mallard survived the first time. I put some Sams trains merchandise on my Christmas list. :) Best Wishes. Oliver
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you - it should have been quite nice for Mallard - nice and gradual, with no huge voltages! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@brickswithbreakwell9210
@brickswithbreakwell9210 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@jamesmcmahon7091
@jamesmcmahon7091 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes A video that involves model trains, electricity, botched mechanical devices and sam What could possibly go wrong?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yep - It's my favourite kind! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and intresting experiment, and as Halloween is coming up you should dress as count Dracula,s side kick Egor and do another experiment in the laboratory, 😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ian - haha great idea, lol!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains you hiding behind the chair had me in stitches 🤣
@mikrieltje
@mikrieltje 3 жыл бұрын
sam: do not try this at home me who is about to attach a chaisaw motor to an a1: what did you say ??
@tdhprestatyn
@tdhprestatyn 3 жыл бұрын
I designed and built a controller that does exactly this electronically. I made a pwm controller with a 555 timer, opamp and mosfet. I used a capacitor on the output of the pot that worked as a potential divider - this controlled the pwm duty cycle. This effectively simulated inertia. I'll have to dig out the circuit! Using on an n gauge layout and it's much more realistic than a normal controller. As I built it, I can also control the frequency which is good.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Very clever stuff Tony - I like the sound of that - simple but elegant and effective! Much safer than my approach too! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@user-wn8kd1ud1p
@user-wn8kd1ud1p 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's amazing the experiment went well I think you're going to stuff that big motor in one of the train it will be nice for you to put that big motor in one of the model train
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - that would be nice, I thought about it! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mycluck2353
@mycluck2353 3 жыл бұрын
My mum loves your videos, but she says that if she was your mother, she'd give you a slap for making this experiment. 😂 She's hiding behind a cushion right now 😅
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha mine would probably too if she knew, lol! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Skyehye3113
@Skyehye3113 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a exhibition in Woodbridge once he had a dcc speed up thing and it started up much slower it was so nice
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely - DCC does the same thing much better - this wasn't entirely a serious proposition, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Trainboy17
@Trainboy17 3 жыл бұрын
Bad Idea You Shouldn’t Try At Home: Sam: I’m Accepting The Challenge
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha!! xD
@jameshatfield1194
@jameshatfield1194 3 жыл бұрын
Well first time I seen you hide behind a chair to operate your trains good experiment just need a air raid shelter now
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - that was a first! Maybe a riot shield would be good! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@stephenwilliamson4556
@stephenwilliamson4556 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, very interesting idea, loved the engineering behind it. Took me until seeing it working to actually figure out what you were doing. Don’t know if it’s ever something I’d try on my own layout as a) I use DCC and b) I hate momentum control (mainly because it makes emergency stops extremely difficult, unless you’ve got a switching circuit that can cut stored power instantly). I would guess with a few capacitors, you could achieve a similar result, but no where near as fun or entertaining to watch.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Stephen! that’s true actually, it’s not very practical! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@mariebcfhs9491
@mariebcfhs9491 3 жыл бұрын
wow, this idea is amazing also you should try using massive capacitors as an electrical flywheel and test how that works!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! That'd be awesome, I've wondered about that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ModelRailway
@ModelRailway 3 жыл бұрын
Really good practical experiment! Also shows why a diesel loco engine is quite inefficient ... as you need a generator to convert diesel to electrical energy, then you have motors to convert the electrical energy to kinetic energy.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, yeah you’re dead right actually! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@altariel1442
@altariel1442 3 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment Sam thank you
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you liked it! :D
@robbyboy03
@robbyboy03 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting mate. Well done Sam.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert! :D
@CycolacFan
@CycolacFan 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of one of those Open University programmes they used to show on the BBC at night 😄 Need to find a way to simulate wheel slippage next.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you - that's quite a compliment! Yes indeed - that'd be brilliant! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@greg_mmm
@greg_mmm 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh my electrical engineering days bringing back bad memories, I'd never have thought about doing this but it's brilliant. Did you know, Broadway Limited locos come with "momentum" programmed into the decoders?
@greg_mmm
@greg_mmm 3 жыл бұрын
I should clarify I mean that it works on DC as well. Or at least on two of mine, I haven't been able to test my latest
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks so much Greg! No I never knew that - I'd love to see that working! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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