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There s a friend of mine who always buy most expensive iphone ( like pro max with maxed out storage) but never put a screen protector or any cases. But surprisingly, i see scratches on front glass but never a cracks or never dropped her phone since iph x to iph 14pm till now

@@mst4001 she is a keeper😂

Literally ordered 3 cases for it before even ordering it, then ordered a 4th that arrived the same day as the phone so i could have some peace of mind until the first 3 arrive

Insurance is also an option...

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Concrete is the great equaliser as it knows that, no matter what, glass is glass. And glass breaks.

That's some "concrete" evidence right there lol

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And glass breaks

It might be a huge improvement against phones which scratch at a level 6 but not all smartphones scratch at a level 6. I've done durability videos before on phones 2 years back which didn't scratch till an 8. But mainly against the S22 ultra, it is an improvement since the S22 ultra had minor scuffs/barely visible scratches starting around a 6-7. I was hoping for the Victus 2 to hold up till a 9 but yep.

Indeed that's quite impressive. Maybe it's one of the reasons they don't include pre-aplied screen protector.

Might be that or also them trying to be using the least possible plastic not sure.

@@PBKreviews oh yeah that's what I thought. Pretty neat! Now I won't regret not getting a screen protector after 3 years of using the phone. 🤣 My Note 10 plus screen feels like sandpaper 😅 but no cracks!

Still have extra protection for drops tho just because it's harder it means it will shatter like tempered glass

lol yeah

Have you given it a thought that the initial scratch test might have compromised the structural integrity of the glass, making it susceptible to shatter easily ?

Yes, if it was deep enough yeah, but they are just surface scratches. If anyone put their phone in their pocket and got scratches on the screen, that doesn't mean that any protection is out the window and after it being in a pocket then the glass is going to shatter if dropped. But if it had deep scratches or any cracks, 100% would be a different story.

It is glass so it will shatter or crack

I smell bullshit. The Ultra scratched at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7 - the same as previous generations. In this test, it would imply that the glass has sapphire in it, and it doesn't. One of two things are happening.. the person using the mohs picks, used the wrong ones, or they are lying.

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Curious Jerry rig everything had light scratches at 6 and deeper 7 with same hardness kit?@@PBKreviews

I got a nasty scratch on mine despite never dropping it, never putting it face down. Just put it in my pocket and it came out with the scratch. Must have had a tiny bit of hard particle in there, no keys or anything obvious I could find. Even tough glass can scratch if you're unlucky so definitely recommend a screen protector.

it does not. low drop here :(

Better think again about just "any" case, dropped mine no more than 14 inches while in a thin small case because I didn't like the defender style case I had it in and now I am waiting for who knows how long for the repair shop to be able to get a new replacement screen 😢

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@@PBKreviews nah 8 was the level the cg victus CGG 7 used to scratch at as well. Only the s22u scratched at a 6 because I guess and from what I've seen when researching on this, the glass is softer because of the higher radius of curvature it needed to be processed at a higher temp and that affects the structure.

Pathetic how easily it shatters

Exactly my Corning gorilla glass 6 does better lmao🤣🤣🤣

Funny thing is how they nailed it back in 2011 with the S2 which survived face down drops onto concrete

Yup I agree this is madness, they can at least gift it to someone who dreams of it!

? Is that bad he’s actually helping people to chose the right the phone and he’s not the only one and can gift it for use

Just a dumb thing.. The company itself during production did durability tests before producing this phone..... So why the f*ck would a regular person get such an expensive phone and treated it like that?... I really want this phone and people are here destroying it. Many people seem to be dumb, no jokes.

How do you manage to drop a phone more than 10 times?

How did you manage to not drop more than 10 times. I dropped my old phone more than 20 times .

@@loukik8042 by being careful

@@RagingBad I know But it happens for me

@@RagingBad There are 2 types of people holders and droppers. I guess he's the latter one.

the first is the worst

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If the scratches are really deep yeah but these surface scratches shouldn't affect it. Or else anyone with any scratches would automatically have to worry about drops cracking their screen. Even last year's 22 ultra I did cracked brand new out of the box and the S23 plus from this year. so if the flat S23 plus can't withstand the first drop, no way the curved will.

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I've dropped my S21 Ultra TONS of times,(I ALWAYS have a case on my phones) NO broken screen and no shattered back. However if I shake it or move a certain way it rattles now so something is loose inside it

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Totally agree and I don't understand why they went back to the old note style it broke all the time

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yeah lol definitely need a case for this phone.

Glass going to glass, not sure why anyone would think any different because of the price tag.

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👍 thanks I'll keep it in mind for the future

You said cracks. Yes if it had cracks of course. But surface scratches like these not really. I am not saying I know any better than you if you're an expert in the field but I have done tests like this before with a phone that had scratches and one of the same that was new out of the box with similar results. If that was the case, anyone who put their phones in their pockets would have to worry that they just voided any protection on their screen since objects in their pockets would cause scratches and their goes the protection out the window. If the scratches were deep then yeah but these aren't deep. Plus the cracks didn't form from there the scratches were, but from the corners and sides of the screen when dropped. If the glass was weak at the mark of the scratch, it should have cracked from there first. But like I said, I don't have a degree dealing with glass, maybe you know something that I dont.

@PBKreviews So, in summary, you are partially right and partially wrong. By doing drop tests with samsung phones, you get consistent results with the same type of materials (samsungs screens in this case), and you could expect consistent results on the different test. Consistent in this conversation means they will break at a similar height and in similar ways. Yet, to be able to say without doubt that the material of the screens is not "better" or "worst" we or you, or who ever is doing the test, should do it a lot of times, with a lot a phones. Like a 100 phones, for example. Then, you could use statistical methods to extrapolate the results. I'm not saying you should buy a 100 phones to break them, that's not your job to do, and I doesn't make sense.

Also, when doing a drop test and taking into account what samsung says in their marketing info, one should be critic with the information given by the manufacturer. When samsung says the material of the new screens is 30% tougher or 30% more scratch resistant, they mean under THEIR internal way of measuring those two factors. Way we don't know (because it's a manufacturer secret). Taking into account that we also don't know the crystalline structure of the screen, neither we know how many layers of each specific crystalline structure they use (another manufacturer secret), in my opinion is very hard to affirm just by doing 1 single drop test that the phone is tougher or more fragile than the phone from last year. Yet, one drop test is infinitely more useful than no test at all

Yes you are correct. These tests are not 100% fact. Only many times with different ways can you come to an average result. This is just mainly a rough test.

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Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I used it for the teardown video which will be uploaded soon.

Thank you, yes finally getting there lol.

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Samsung a10 too, because base on my experience mine fall from 2nd floor of our school building twice no scratch and crack Ù^Ú

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Lol why would you not put a case on it. That's like driving with no insurance 🤣

@@JTxTX If the case isn't necessary to protect from drops, you obviously don't get one. They add bulk and pocket friction. That was the entire point of this test. Unfortunately, the test demonstrates that cases are still required.

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yeah its improvement vs the S22 ultra. But I have a feeling the S23/23+ might handle scratches better just like last year how the S22/22+ did better vs the Ultra due to the flat vs curved glass which the process of making curved glass usually makes the glass a bit softer.

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@@PBKreviews but this year's s23u has a much lower curvature radius so it must be nearly as resilient if not the same as the flat s23 glass.

@@hotsauce6310 lol still curved so probably not

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Lol thats exactly what Zack's channel is 😆

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@@PBKreviews can you compare the glass on victus+ with victus2 durrability

you can look at my S22 Ultra durability video I did last year, it had vitcus+ so you can compare.

Yeah, these are official Mohs Hardness Scale, used to measure hardness of minerals, and so, other materials can also be classified according to this scale. 1 is talc and 10 is diamond. So plastic is around 2, fingernails around 2.5, copper coins 3.5, knives around 5.5, and so on. One material is harder than other when it can scratch it but not be scratched by it.

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You're welcome. Most people have asked to see front screen drop first, since once dropped, if there are any cracks anywhere, the screen glass would be compromised and any further drop would definitely cause it to crack or shatter. So the most important is to see how strong the glass is for frontal drops as well as how the phone design helps or doesn't help drops on the screen etc.

yes, there should be 2 separate devices for scratch and drop test. 8 for topaz, 9 for corundum level which is quite deep, he says slight improvement but s22u starting to scratch at 6, so what is significant improvement? also hardness measurement tools should be checked before scratch because it is possible to change their scale unintentionally

*without the curved screen

Yes correct, they need to be calibrated before use which they are. Also scratch wise yeah there was improvement but when they advertise it, they make it seem like its so much better so I was expecting vary faint if any scratches at an 8 but handles just the same as other phones from a year or two ago which also would last till an 8. However I will be testing the flat surface of the S23 to see if it does any better since last year the S22 did better compared to the 22 ultra.

@@PBKreviews The first reviews that are posted often make a big impression on people. While most people only show certain parts of the phone, you show different aspect, the inside of them and how durable it is and you usually do reviews faster than anyone else, I learned the difference of IP14PM design thanks to you. I understand that advertisements can sometimes be misleading, but its still promising, also there are some slight changes of S23U design, screen is less edgy but since you starched, integrity of the screen is affected and more prone to break. I'm looking forward your test with S23

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Hi. Honestly I haven't looked much into cases yet for this phone to give you a proper answer. I also haven't used poetic spartan cases before. :)

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lol yup, if I don't then I get people asking why I didn't so might as well throw it in for good measure.

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It took surpisingly long time to have teardown and drop test

Yeah I wasn't able to get it as early as last year.

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Cameras are supposed to rattle out of the box, you're hearing image stabilisation, that is by design. your phone isnt faulty if it rattles.

@@schizofennec Thanks, but I have the S20 Ultra and my wife has the S22 Ultra and both rattle yes, but after dropping it by mistake and both our phones don't zoom smoothly as before so I thought that the camer sensors have moved inside and has affected the smoothness of the zoom - which never used to be the case when we first got them - thinking of upgrading mine from S20 Ultra but not sure yet - thanks

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You're welcome. The phone frame is very strong n solid, just like last years frame so I wouldn't even be able to bend it. So thought it would be pointless to show.

Yeah if its deep scratches of course. However small surface scratches like this I don't think would effect it, or else anyone placing phones in their pockets would need to worry about drops breaking their screen right away after when it has scratches. However in future, I will make sure to use brand new units. For the S22+ drop test, I will be using a new one.

Most cases no, but if you wear tight pants or jeans and your pockets are stuffed, there is the possibility of sharp objects scraping into the screen from pressure. But I think in most cases should be fine.

I never put anything in the pocket with the Phone. Keys sooner or later will scratch it.

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wait for 24 and i really dont recommend the ultra cuz of the curv

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The scratches are minor surface scratches. If that were the case, anyone who has a phone with a scratch on the screen would have shattered glass since any drop would cause it to break. Plus from the drops the glass didn't start to crack from the scratch spots. If they were gashes or cracks in the glass then yes but not with minor scratches.

yeah both work

Hardwood floor I would say is not as damaging as rough concrete, plus yeah the way it hits the ground would probably make a difference.

As per instructions in the kit, it states to hold it like using a pen and apply only medium (7lbs) force. I do as the instructions on the kit state and those are the results I got. whether he is applying more force or not or if I'm not doing something correctly I am not sure but I did the galaxy s22 ultra from last year the same way and last years scratched at a 6 or 7 but for me the S23 ultra didn't scratch at a 6 or 7. You can compare my video from last year to see. I can't say I'm 100% right but I followed the directions the best I could and that's the result I got. I can always press down really hard and force scratches but that won't be accurate either.

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Nope...he didn't it properly..just wait for Jerry rig everything for better result

@@farishakim6759 jerry is a moron, you love him cause of the cigarette lighter test which is absolutely useless