Bread space creator: "alright time to make a funny meme map." TF2 lore:

Honestly wouldn’t put it past soldier to accidentally tap into government teleporters just to teleport bread

Now we just need a Gordon Expensman from Apperature Laboratories to take care of our problems

Is the Giant "Mama" bread single? _Asking for a friend..._

you know tf2 is wacky when the bread has lore

I believe that the person who is trying to revive poopy Joe is soldier. He got the monkey's bugle, he lived with Merasmus, so he might know how to use magic (definitely if you consider scream fortress) and in reality, it seems like something soldier would do.

Ah, so I have an answer for the unusual cubes at 16:05 ! Accessing through GMod, if you look in the Asteroid folder in the TF2 Directory, you can find the unique models used for rd_asteroid. There are several grey/metallic cubes that share the name 'Moon Gravel'. While it might just be boring old Moon Rocks, it's definitely from the Moon, confirming the space connection.

Time to talk about the one non Christmas map in a Christmas update.

I'm kinda surprised sam missed the "bread heads" writing in red's spawn an the first point, or at least made no mention of it, since it shows the administrator, saxton hale, and even blutarch and redmond mann, possibly diving deaper into the whole "bread reaching other parts of the planet" thing, as well as bread crabs being capable of possible reanimation of corpses, and my be an alternate reason for poopy joe's return

I've always semi ironically semi unironically liked stories where basically every bad thing that ever happens ever can be directly or indirectly pinned on One Dude Like Soldier singlehandedly destroyed an entire moonbase because he had a bunch of bread and some free time

Plus another bread monster is seen at the end of expiration date, where Pyro plays with it like a puppy.

A few thoughts from my noggin: That 1979 on the wall got me thinking. You know where else I saw a year on the wall? Many times in Portal 2. As we progress back up to the main Aperture facility, we endure many years worth of tests. They end in 1982. The "bees injection" poster seems exactly like something Cave Johnson might want to use for a test. In addition, might this be where Cave got his 70 million dollars worth of moon rocks? I think what we have here is some potential "fun lore".

Something else you might have missed. In banana bay underneath red spawn there are two conveyer belts converting dozens of bananas into Australium bars. This could mean that the Bananas produced there could contain Australium, which is why the summoning circle uses bananas

Alright, let's see, bonus info time: - It only occurred to me after I made the video, but someone commented that Poopy Joe's bugle is the same as the bugle Soldier uses with the Buff Banner. If this is true, the purpose of Banana Bay could be to get Soldier there so the Bugle could be stolen, with the pointless objective of both teams blowing up the same train just being a distraction to keep them busy. - Someone commented asking why it had to be Soldier teleporting the mutated bread to the moon and why it couldn't have just been a normal loaf of bread being teleported up as a routine supply drop by the government. This is a fair point, but I'd counter by saying that if Bread was allowed to be teleported up, the station should've had a problem with it far sooner and before the dome was even completed. The fact that Mama only arrives on the station after a long period of the station being active and functional suggests something changed in their system, for which Soldier is still the most likely source of change, given the wall-scrawls depicting him. - I missed a wall-scrawl depicting a recipe and a handful of other notable TF2 NPCs with bread taped over their faces. This was an oversight on my part, but it was motivated by the fact that I don't believe these wall-scrawls mean anything. Lore-wise they're too far-stretched to suggest anything massive, aside from maybe they were made by a possessed Red team planning on which bread types to infect the targets with. I doubt they have any real immediate implications though.

For the Teleporter point being like a Hub: In MvM the Engie can turn his Teleporter into a 2 Way Tele and the Eureka Effect only requires a Teleport Exit to work, so it wouldn't be dumb to assume that the Teleporter technolegy could work in different ways. Probably a lot of Exits around the World/the Moon and a modefied Entry that can switch frequencies between them to change destination

Copper and Fuchs are a reference to John Carpenter's The Thing. That is really cool.

You know, ever since this map got added to the game I felt it was off. It's not very Smissmas-y in any way. A question always ached inside my skull: "Why this map?" Now with the discovery of the lore of the map, and the map being made official, that question aches more. Is Valve trying to show us something? Is something coming somehow related to this map? I could very likely be going insane from the lack of... Well, everything related to TF2, but it all just feels a bit off.

On the topic of "Aliens and BLU being heroes", I'd say pl_snowycoast could count as one. From what I read in the wiki, the map is inspired by 'The Thing', the big telling being it takes place in snowy complex and the stranded UFO. it seems, an UFO crash landed there, the RED team were quick to built facilities around it to research it, but unfortunately all of them were assimilated by the 'Thing'. BLU got the hold of this and decided to stop the alien invasion by blowing up the root of it. The BLUs of course has to fight the Things that has been impersonating the RED mercenaries, keeping them away from their base.

I love how you took the effort to finding the lore within the map, it's beautiful.

Spy: i once stoped a men from destryoing the moon EGGMEN: I M B A C K N O W THE BREAD IS GONNA PISS ON THE MOON

Always love it when games have lore.

Wait, does _only_ the breadcrab make you bread, or do bread heads, bread biter, load loafers, and also the bread bite weapon?

I really love the Futurama reference with the cryogenic skeleton.

This is very similar to another event we’ve seen before…I just…cant wrap my finger around it though…bread crabs…government getting rid ıf lose ends…weird rocks getting mined on the moon? Wait holy shit this is Black Mesa in tf2

If this is Valve hinting at a potential community made update then this might be one of the biggest things to have happened in the past few years. After all I’m quite sure that Valve has hinted at potential update like this before.

I love this type of deep lore exploration stuff. I'm glad that the community has found creative ways to continue to expand upon TF2's universe.

The logic is sound. I REALLY hope we get more stuff like this, I love lore in maps.

Theory: australium exposure is what allows the bread monsters grow to unreasonable size. “eating rocks” is something a bread monster could do anywhere but both a red base the moon is somewhere australium could be.

I suspect red may have put up some fight since in and near the various red spawns you find scrawlings in blood, and toward last someone has made a list of who is bread (which is everyone), once again in blood, maybe a last standing miner, maybe a blue member, or maybe zombie Poopy Joe

god i love this map. i'm gonna make it a ritual to always be wearing a Breadcrab now anytime im defending on this map. and honestly, if this map gets updated a couple of times to fix the gameplay issues it currently has, i think even its current haters wont be able to keep that stance on it for long. it is _very_ well made, its just that its been implemented a bit too early, so we're missing some of the finishing touches.

So, delving further into lore speculation, since RED is seen as the better team in canon, the government clearly picked them to send in first. When they failed, BLU team was all that was left to destroy Big Mama (BTW, the change notes for one of the fix updates that came soon after Smissmas specifically listed changes to 'Big Mama's' animation.)

"Question" "What's your question, soldier?" "I teleported bread" "What?" "You told me too" "How much..." "I've done nothing but teleport bread for 3 days" "Where!? where have you been sending it!?" "To the moon! for America!"

TF2 Lore is absolutely nuts, I love seeing how far this game has come from having no plot at all when it released other than 8 men and 1 sentient potato sack shoot guns in the desert into...this absolutely beautiful madness. I've been playing since near launch and never expected this chaos but I would never change it. Its fascinatingly weird and I love it.

I can't wait for the last TF2 developer to see this video and make it all canon retroactively.

since these bread creatures are, well, bread, they have no actual organs. the way to combat this as animals that have short lifespans do, they reproduce rapidly using the spores in order to make more bread than there are dying. also, the time it takes for a young breadling to reach maturity (mama sized) is about 3 days, assuming the big bread in expiration date came to be the same way they're explained in this map. and id like to think soldier just pressed random buttons (if any buttons, or the teleporter was already set to the moon from past experiments?) and it happened to send it to the moon

Well, this video was a nice change of pace from your usual slew of gameplay videos! The theory is absolutely phenomenal! I'm whole-heartedly accepting this as canon now! Probably... ... Maybe.... *Definitely.*

I always loved the idea of mining the moon, the idea of Helium-3 making that a possibility some day catches my brain from time to time.

Holy shit imagine Team Fortress 3 begins with the combine finding the mercs on the moon

I like to think that after blowing up mama red team is no longer under the control of the breadcrabs, and red and blu both escape together with the help of poopy Joe. There’s no way the story just ends there with them all dying on the moon. They’re the tf2 mercs for gods sake they gotta find some ridiculous and contrived way of getting back to earth!

Man I wish someday we get a mvm mode with bread monsters

Apparently there is a pickle engie located in/near one of Red's spawns, so that's also a thing

I was expecting this to be a memey gimmick video full of gameplay shenanigans. This was a very interesting video that was perfect to eat dinner to.

knowing the US government's nuclear passcode at a time was just '000', i wouldn't be surprised if soldier managed to connect to one of the moon base teleporters since we already saw how he would try breaking passcodes in 'meet the spy'

10:32 An extra little detail. On the gatefold of the TF2 soundtrack there are a bunch of photos taken by Miss Pauling. Most of the photos seem to be taken the day Expiration Date took place. There is one photo of Engineer on the Rancho Relaxo dated, March 29th, 1969. Its not clear whether or not that photo was taken the day ED happened but its safe to assume it was probably take the same week. So that means ED probably took place in late March or early April of 1969. So that means that the scientists were dealing with the Bread monsters for around 9 months before all of the documents were written.

I remember being in a Bread Space server with you when you were recording. I was sooooo excited!!!! Thanks for the great experience!!!

The names of the scientists in the fatty report are all references to The Thing, which makes me love this map all the more. I wasn't expecting this dumb bullshit to be anywhere near as engaging as it turned out to be. (Spoilers for The Thing) Even their causes of death line up with the movie ones, that's perfect.

Makes sense that red is posesed by bread when you see the bread eggs behind their spawn

1. Smissmas is already canon ("A Smissmas Story" comics) 2. Base in Expiration Day already has at least 4 teleport enterance-exit pairs (2 of them are to and from where Demo got beer, 1 local teleport used by Medic and Engi and 1 local teleport used by Soldier, both for teleporting bread) 3. This is Halloween map and Halloween is 110% canon so even if Smissmas maps aren't canon, this map can be.

A rather surprising change from your usual vids, but i gotta say, that was really interesting!

Very interesting! I do want to note that the TF2 comics take place in the early 70s, so bread space takes place probably long after Mannco is destroyed and the administrator dies (unless she somehow finds a bunch of Australium in the last comic) who knows, maybe the mercenaries work for the government now.

I really like the idea of the expiration date base being a tele hub, it would make sense for the mercs to have a permanent base and it explains a lot of small details about the world.

Watching this video immediately after watching MatPat's latest FNAF theory, and the difference in enjoyment I feel watching this video in contrast to that one is night and day. Game Theory may need to watch out for the new theory king

I think there's also a theoretical time that this could have taken place, and this is going off the stuff you said. Also it somehow connects even more dots and makes me look like a conspiracy theorist. First Off: You say, going off your theory, that the TF2 mercs don't come out of this alive, Along with Red team is effected specifically by the monster and gets taken over by Mama. Now assuming that the TF2 mercs die when possessed, This lets us assume that everyone, Including the Scout dies. According to God, Scout dies on December 4th 1987 (you know, during December, Smissmas Season? Hence why this is a main game map and not an event map?) which would give a reanimated Poopy Joe enough time to make it to the Moon, Mann Co and the Government to look more into the Bread Monsters, give the reason why theirs no bodies. They already cleaned out years ago, either rotted, eaten, or disposed of, with only Mama remaining, which the TF2 mercs are send in the handle because one of them literally caused this clusterfuck. With everything put together: Bread Space takes place during December 4th, 1987, and all the Mercs die. This is the end of they're story. They're final mission. Fitting for the near end of such a great game.

When the tf2 community creates their own lore for tf2

Makes me wonder how the SCP Foundation would be handling the entirety of the TF2 lore, if they both existed in the same world.

The tf2 lore is really something to be marveling about

when you said to grab some hot cocoa i actually went and made myself some despite it being like 70 degrees where i am lmao it turned out really good and i am thoroughly enjoying both the cup and the video, 10/10

THE LOOOOOORE

One thing to consider, while the writing in the walls says that there is no escape, it also has the drawing of a rocket. Meaning it may be able to escape by the teleporters soldier used to telepot bread.

i love this type of casual lore video, it is just too engaging not to leave a like. keep it up... also SamTheory??!?!?!!

Blair, Copper and Fuches. Nice The Thing reference there too, this map is jam packed!

Gimmick Idea: The forbidden Apple Juice Basically full Sniper Jarate Loadout but you have Apple themed cosmetics, and you and your squad are named after types of Apples, such as Mackintosh or Granny Smith

I havent played on the map yet. I heard it has alot of trouble with bugs and unfinished and questionable design problems. BUTT I love the behind the scenes story telling and connections you just revealed. I want to belive this is Valve quietly moving the tf2 story behind the scenes with details like in the old days to get us nice and ready for the next update... whether or not its the case... im still pessimist. But nice video, have a thumbsup

This map is such an awesome love letter to horror films, tropes in the genre. The amount of references to John Carpenter's "The Thing" make me giddy.

bread space lore pog

Imagine leaving a meeting to see your family of all things. You were SUPPOSED to bring the ciggarretes and milk a DECADE ago

Didn’t know samwiz was turning into a lore channel, interesting

I feel like Document 2 is somewhat an SCP reference, with all of the protocols and using Subject A-X to describe offspring or clones, and the idea of eliminating all unauthorized citizens who know about it feels very SCP Foundation to me.

The first map i saw it had a lore was swiftwater the little details that everyone ignores that put you in context of why the mercs are fighting in some place are something cool

Space Themed Heavy update, mark my words

showing how much love the community has for the lore makes me so unbelievably sad that valve doesn't care

I haven't seen anyone else mention this but since it's seemingly confirmed that Portal shares the same universe as TF2. And the fact someone sold cave Johnson a ton of moonrocks that got him sick and killed him Now we have this map.

I thought this was gonna be some random Bread [TF2] Stuff, where you just ran around as bread monsters. Mildly surprised! Would be funny though

That explains the burstchester and any other bread that's mutated like heavy gloves and snack attack and other stuff

"There's no way off this rock" Engineer: Am I a joke to you?

Blair, Copper and Fuchs are also the names of 3 scientists in The Thing (1982)

If I ever make a TF2 map I need to give it lore. I don’t want to just go “two forts now fight”

Holy shit, this theory sounds awesome! It's great to think about the lore in a new light with this new map.

Bread Space is one of my favorite maps so now knowing that theirs lore makes it even funnier/better

This video feels like it was made vy Richter Overtime like no cap this video feels like made by Richter Overtime and this gives me a big deja vu Besides all of that great job Sam I appricate the hard work you have put into this video!!! ^^

Poopy Joe's bugle might be a reference to the bugle that curious george himself uses (Also a very cool ape/monkey . ) in one of the Curious Geroge books.

0:56 That heavy ragdoll is almost in the Family Guy death pose

"I know this sounds ridiculous" is such a funny thing to say in tf2 lore.

As the God of cornbread, can confirm that there's lore in bread space.

This is what game theory should be doing. Good going!

I would love to hear more theories about tf2 made by you

I think the best part of it all is that they decided to put bread space, a halloween map, first into the christmas update, and then into the default rotation.

i am pleasantly surprised that this is an actual video and not a joke

This was the best episode of Game Theory ever

I genuinely hope the map creators see this and talk about it!

The saddest part is that if Poopy Joe did make it to the moon, he was probably killed/possessed by breadcrabs

The post-morten is definitely a reference to The Thing, Copper, Blair, and Fuchs are all characters in the movie. They also die in the same ways described. The Thing also got an entire map of its own, Snowy Coast.

I mean the mode’s named after a horror game, you know it’s gonna be nasty.

lmao i didnt think this would have so much lore and i love it

My headcanon about the RED team in this map's scenario is They protect the Mama not because of the mind-controlling effect, but because they have been given a different task: to preserve the bread mutants, get the samples and deliver them to Earth as a potential bioweapon. RED team was sent to this station first. And when they "failed" to destroy the *bread threat* , BLU team arrives with a nuke payload, diving head first into horrors, conspiracy and lore scraps that have collected within the facility This map is filled with "Alien" homages, so this assumption is what comes to mind

breadcrab? GORDON FREEMAN!

now i cant stop thinking maybe the administrator wants to combine the breadcrabs corpse revival powers with australium to prolong her life indefinitely

This just feels like one big reference to SCP

He's pulling a soundsmith!

Can't wait for Poopy Joe NFT