Watercolor wash or ink: Which should you use first?

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Жыл бұрын

When using watercolor and ink, which should be used first? Well that depends! Most urban sketchers draw in ink first, and that's totally fine, but I show you some examples that might help change your mind - making sketching a little easier on yourself :)
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@Blick_Art Жыл бұрын

We love the emphasis on doing art, rather than making a finished product here! We get what you mean about confidence and line drawing! People new to art are sometimes too hesitant, but "tight knuckle" drawing interferes with fluidity and excludes a whole range of mark making. Love the fountain pen, too- more and more artists are adopting this great instrument for sketching!

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

tight knuckles is a great description of what happens! :)

@lindathaxton1994 26 күн бұрын

The Chrysler building is my favorite NY structure! Beautiful

@lindathaxton1994 26 күн бұрын

I have done both & Yes inking after is freeing & I find I am happier with the results!

@lindathaxton1994 26 күн бұрын

NO COFFEE! I love watercolor &=especially watercolor & ink. Born in California & have lived here all my 80 years. I started learning sketching & watercolor at age 77. Do art every day - watercolor is magic! Thank you for sharing your skills so I can continue learning 🙏

@SandyAllnock1 25 күн бұрын

That is awesome!

@jamesjacocks6221 5 ай бұрын

Very nice! I generally sketch very lightly in pencil and then overdraw with pen being sure to put some interest in the lines. Finally, I apply wash. I do focus on not producing perfection, but rather interesting imperfection and a little mystery. I sometimes put down a wash and then ink, but that is for really loose studies.

@dorothyminor7581 Жыл бұрын

Your explanation as you go along is just perfect! Thank you!

@dorothyminor7581 Жыл бұрын

I tend to do the ink first. To be honest had not thought about it the other way! Now I’m on my way to my art area to give it a go! Thanks Sandy! You da best!

@ginamcdonald7854 Жыл бұрын

I like the look of watercolor first!

@magicallymalicious01 10 ай бұрын

I do a little ink first and then finish with more detail after the watercolor. And I guess you could say I'm an urban sketcher but I'm from the south and there's a whole lot of abandoned old plantation homes and historical places so I sketch them. There's just something about decay that I think can be haunting and beautiful.

@ashblack4351 3 ай бұрын

Your art sounds amazing. I too find those sort of places hauntingly beautiful. I'm gonna try that. Thanks

@judywilliams1863 4 күн бұрын

Just found your channel and want to know more about watercolor art. I’m 79years young and have always painted in oils. Hope you can teach an old dog new tricks.

@SandyAllnock1 4 күн бұрын

We’re never too old to learn! My mom got her art degree at 70 🥰🥰🥰

@Michael-lq5di 3 ай бұрын

Sandy Nice to find your channel I am in New Mexico but lived on the Oregon coast for many years and miss the Northwest love your posts. Michael Campbell

@SandyAllnock1 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for subbing!

@Therealgirlinthedesert Жыл бұрын

Hello from Avondale, AZ! 🌵 I used to live in Bothell, WA. I miss it there so much. I love the idea of painting first then pen. You did a fantastic job explaining this. I can’t wait to go try this as a beginner water colorist. Thank you!

@noreenfontana3213 Жыл бұрын

I love my LFL #1965! Yes, it was a very early registered library many years ago! I have enjoyed watching my neighbors fill it with books, take one or more, and return them if they feel like it. I have enjoyed using up my watercolor paper scraps by turning them into bookmarks. I may do a little art now. Stop and visit if you're ever in Minneapolis. I love to read!

@marydodson5265 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work!

@phylliswendt4130 Жыл бұрын

Great lesson!

@NaamaYM Жыл бұрын

thank you, I'm new to watercolor and i wondered about that ink/watercolor.

@donnatdeal Жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you! I've been pondering wash & ink for a while, your examples and explanation were inspiring!

@bimmermom Жыл бұрын

That was great …. Good question and great explanation.. thanks Sandy

@Ladycrafty6 Жыл бұрын

Hello from Georgia! I love making cards and want to practice more watercolors! I love your work and tutorials!❤

@cherylj.harris4967 Жыл бұрын

Wash and ink is my favorite. Thank you for sharing the difference!

@meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sandy , I’m in Los Angeles and interested in abstract art…I’m a very beginner and much to learn…thank you for sharing⭐️

@karenzemko6518 Жыл бұрын

I really like the idea of w/c first and "fixing" with a pen over it. I can definitely see the looseness in proceeding in that order. I need to find some time to play. Been helping out with my friend with Parkinson's a lot lately, so my play time is limited. TFS

@susanreinersuedahl Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the explanation

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@dandfawesome3611 Жыл бұрын

Stylistically I appreciate the foxglove ‘colouring in the lines’ because I love botanical illustration. Glad I found your channel!

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you’re here!

@jtpaar1732 Жыл бұрын

Great video and chat, as always, Sandy. I very much envy your skill in drawing and how easily it seems you get the job done. I can draw if I put my mind to it, but I've just never had the patience for drawing and instead jumped right into the paint! Unfortunately, I'm paying the price now because I have many awesome (I think so, anyway lol) ideas that I'm unable to execute on paper because I just don't know how to draw properly. I learn by watching so I like to watch you draw. I would love to see you do a video with 'drawing tips' - the 'tricks of the trade' maybe. I know, I know...keep practicing you say, but I don't have all day haha! Take care.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@ronlyons7455 9 ай бұрын

Excellent and so warmly taught:). I came onto KZfaq just to find expert know-how on how i might delineate some suggestive WC pieces that i have laying around. And you provided it! Thanks

@SandyAllnock1 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😍😍😍

@cynthiakelly9621 7 ай бұрын

that was very helpful thank you

@SandyAllnock1 7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@sonyadietz1168 4 ай бұрын

I just found your channel and I love it. I am a Western Washingtonian as well and love to create with pen and watercolor.

@SandyAllnock1 4 ай бұрын

Welcome!!

@AaronStoll 3 ай бұрын

Great video, I'm new at watercolor painting and I really admire the talent of so many great artists that I am discovering here.

@SandyAllnock1 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@darrenbirchall7826 Жыл бұрын

Hello from the Uk , fantastic tutorial, thank you, I’m new to watercolour and just found your channel so I’m a new subscriber

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Welcome!❤️

@Rockymtnbloom Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the examples Sandy! I feel honored you answered my question about the order of inking. I decided to spend time developing both methods of inking. I am enjoying the PowellsWood class (what a beautiful location!) Painting first does seem to produce more free and flowing results and seems more enjoyable. I'm always trying to "loosen up" so it is good to explore an option with ink and watercolor that keeps the end result loose and arty. Perhaps the order ink is applied depends on the subject and how exact you want the final product to be.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

The subject can definitely influence it. But having the option yo go either way really helps!

@davidm3569 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this......feast for the eyes. The Chrysler Building was exceptional and always reminds me of the scene in Predator 2 with the creature standing on it. 👍😁

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Lol…I’ve never tried it with a creature…. 🤣

@davidm3569 Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 Have you ever watched that film? It's a classic scene........👍😀

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

@@davidm3569 no I’m not into scary flicks 😱

@rgrdesigns Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the side by side comparisons. I tend to prefer the expressive look of the WC first. In my practice, I tend toward being more like the ink first. Earlier this week I purposely did WC first, but then inked very stiffly. Argh! More practice coming soon. 😊

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

It takes a lot to get there! Saturday we’ll do more flowers so hopefully that’ll give you something to practice 👍🏻

@haleymcfarlane930 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I’m from Ontario, Canada. I’m a tight watercolourist. I’d like to hear/see any tips on loosening up to paint some loose splashy watercolours. Thank you.

@ZealousZest Жыл бұрын

FAB U LOUS 👍

@TheGalxz 11 ай бұрын

❤

@christinelazarides8916 Жыл бұрын

Which fountain pen did you use in your drawing? Love the loose drawing and the painting.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Visconti Mirage for some, TWSBI Eco for others. TWSBI is way more affordable.

@margueritemitchell1829 11 ай бұрын

Ha, first live🎉

@kbaxterpackwood Жыл бұрын

I'm allergic to coffee, so understand!

@at2515 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sandy, I'm Audrina from Texas (OWH, remember?). I was in the process of trying to learn to watercolor but my husband had a massive stroke. (Prayers are very welcomed.) I'm his full time caregiver so no time for playing anymore but I love to watch and listen to you. Perhaps one day he'll improve enough that I can get back to it. He loves to stamp and color with pencils. I would love a demo using Karin Markers if you're able to do that. I had just bought a set. Thanks so much for sharing/teaching your talent. I've loved you for a long time. Audrina T.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Hi Audrina!!! I’m so sorry to hear about your husband, I’ll be praying for sure. Might he like to watercolor? You could work on that together ❤️ I don’t have Karin markers or I’d be happy to demo them for ya.

@at2515 Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 He hasn't been interested in watercolor but he does love sketching. He only has use of one hand for now. I got him a variety of color pencils and he loves Carin D'ache Luminance, so I just stamp what he wants and he enjoys coloring, I help hold the paper still if he needs it, then I make a card with it. So he really enjoys that. ❤️

@lindas5412 Жыл бұрын

Watercolor first!

@imageimah145 Жыл бұрын

I love your art work, I am trying to do something like that, I am not a proffecional artist, but I love to draw and I got a question, when UR workin witn alcohol markers can you put water marker on top and color pencils for details? I really Will appreciate your answer. Thanks.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

I’d say try it and see; it may depend a lot on having a paper that can deal with all the mediums. Give it a go!🥰

@lisamont8182 Ай бұрын

Hello Sandy Is there a class of the Chrysler building? It’s just stunning

@SandyAllnock1 Ай бұрын

Sorry, no there isn't...

@lisamont8182 Ай бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 Thank you I may just have to take the market street class😁

@SandyAllnock1 Ай бұрын

@@lisamont8182 it’s a beloved one by students❤️

@amandasymon4363 Жыл бұрын

Watercolour first 👌👍 No question 👊

@Coco-ne5ix Жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. This was a great demonstration of line and wash. I want to loosen up so I want to try your watercolor first technique. I’d love to see more videos on this loose approach. Also, what about loose with no ink lines? How would that work?

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Check out my pen and ink playlist-all kinds of playtime is captured there❤️

@Coco-ne5ix Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 Thanks I plan to purchase a class from your list. Meanwhile, I just watched your shirt on needlepoint brushes. What size DiVinci Kolinsky do you recommend? They are pricy so I want to be sure to get the most useful one if I order.

@elizabetheliuk9373 Жыл бұрын

I drink coffee …..cold. I’m a coloured pencil artist who is trying to keen watercolour and gouache. I have w/c pencils ink markers but have not experimented yet. But I will.

@lynnedalrymple Жыл бұрын

hi I am Lynne from australia and I only drink tea (cuppa)

@knackability7098 Жыл бұрын

Hey Sandy, I'm in SW Washington and I don't drink coffee either! We should start a club. 😂😂😆 I often get a kick out of the confused faces I encounter when I tell someone here that I don't drink coffee.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

There’s two of us! I have so many Starbucks cards….to be used on caramel apple spice🤣

@knackability7098 Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 I have so many cards too! 😂🤣

@kathecronin6411 Жыл бұрын

I use a journal for drawing. I use words and scenes and abstracts. When I finish, I want to create a background. Not too detailed, but a little color here and there. Any suggestions for a medium and application??? Thank you so much.....

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Hmm…I’m weird in that I’d do an abstract background to journal on top of…here’s a bunch of ideas in one video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y6ueo9hhmditcaM.html

@ginashin Жыл бұрын

수채화는 나의 로망❤

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@charlenejordan6224 Жыл бұрын

Ok this is my stupid question. What is the doobliedoo and where do I find it on KZfaq and on Instagram?

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Lol! It’s the description box under the video. It usually only shows the first line or two so you click on “show more.” On Instagram, etc. I don’t think I use the term doobliedo, but if I did, it would be the caption for the post. 🥰

@Princess_karen 6 ай бұрын

I don’t drink coffee either never have and I am 67

@mssmiley5691 Жыл бұрын

Drawing with ink first doesn’t mean you have to paint carefully in the lines. You can do loose, quick applications of paint, leaving white areas and painting outside the lines. That will also give a very loose effect, similar to painting first then finishing with your ink drawing.

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

Yes but for some reason I usually feel obliged to meet up with the lines…

@pamelasmith4594 2 ай бұрын

What kind of pen do you use that takes waterproof ink?I have lots of drawing pens but can’t find waterproof ink cartridges. Please help. THANKYOU for your expertise!…. Now I see that with your pen you used a filler not a cartridge. I would still like to know what kind of drawing fountain pen takes Indian ink without clogging.

@SandyAllnock1 2 ай бұрын

I don't use indian ink, that clogs up everything. But I do use Platinum Carbon Black.

@pamelasmith4594 2 ай бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 That’s very helpful. I didn’t know there was such a thing. Is it waterproof? I will try and find Platinum Carbon black ink.

@SandyAllnock1 2 ай бұрын

@@pamelasmith4594 it should be linked in the supplies and the description I’ll check

@meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

Hi again, I don’t think that I’m good at reality drawing, sketching, what I need to do…???

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

It’s all about practice. Get a sketchbook and start drawing things around you…every day just a few minutes will make a difference. Learn to really look at things-what are the shapes, the angles, the values. Over time you’ll see improvement for sure!

@silkeschumann7261 Жыл бұрын

When you do the ink work first, why don't you just help yourself staying loose by choosing a bigger brush, so you can't stay in the line?

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

When there’s already lines there, it just feels like I should stay within them so I think even with a bigger brush I would still get fussy.

@silkeschumann7261 Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 You might, but you could stil set the goal of not using the edges if a flatbrush that is wider than the width of the bell flower blossom, at least in the first wash and see how the experiment goes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or use a big old round brush that doesn't come to a point anymore :)

@SandyAllnock1 Жыл бұрын

@@silkeschumann7261 oh, I know that’s when I can, and should do, but when I sit down to sketch, that part of my brain that wants to fill in all the spaces just kicks in. Plus, water coloring first allows me to play with the shapes, and then, if I wanna clean them up, I can do it with the pen. If it’s ink on the paper first, I don’t have any wiggle room.

@silkeschumann7261 Жыл бұрын

@@SandyAllnock1 I watch way to many artists on youTube which is why I feel confident to say you don't allow yourself rather than the strict can and can't do. But I stop pushing here. You do you. ;)

@elizabetheliuk9373 Жыл бұрын

Oh yes I forgot. I’ve got four dogs and seven kitties.