Sanguinor vs Lord Asterion Moloc Warhammer 40k Battle Report - Who Would Win 61

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9 жыл бұрын

To watch the Khorne Lord vs Lord Asterion Battle Report, go here: www.miniwargaming.com/content/...
Wings of the Exemplar of the Host versus Armour of the Chapter Master.

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@RawrJustJames
@RawrJustJames 9 жыл бұрын
I really like Lord Asterion Moloc's model, thats the first time ive seen it.
@Waspy
@Waspy 9 жыл бұрын
It's a forge world model
@monoperative
@monoperative 9 жыл бұрын
Kudos to them for giving him a Corinthian-esque helmet and not making him look Slaaneshi.
@eallsop1129
@eallsop1129 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with previous comments, with such short battles you should do best of three; that was some very unlikely dice rolling
@Isvoor
@Isvoor 9 жыл бұрын
Suggestions: 9 Harlequins vs. 15 Wyches (3 wych weapons and hekatrix, 4 harlequin weapons) Harlequin solitaire vs. 50 Conscripts Harlequin solitaire vs. Lelith Hesperax Drazhar vs. Karandras Fuegan vs. a Daemon prince 10 mandrakes vs. 50 Conscripts (or a more equal amount of points for each) All Phoenix Lords vs. either a lot of chaos-stuff or whatever set of heroes you want (but make it feel like the end of the world) Urien Rakarth vs. Fabius Bile (a retinue for both?) Howling Banshees vs. Wyches (or Hekatrix Bloodbrides) Kroot vs. Chaos Cultists Striking Scorpions vs. Ork Nobz/Boyz Incubi vs. Death Company Rippers vs. Scarabs Wracks vs. Nurgle-Cultists Shining Spears vs. Nob bikers
@DeftCrowMk3
@DeftCrowMk3 9 жыл бұрын
Isvoor Culexus Assassin vs. Kaldor Draigo.
@scottgray5092
@scottgray5092 9 жыл бұрын
SingleCrystal I agree, we need to see some Assassins in the vs matches.
@Isvoor
@Isvoor 9 жыл бұрын
Vindicare Assassin vs. Illic Nightspear?
@seansmith7273
@seansmith7273 9 жыл бұрын
Isvoor +1 on the scarabs vs rippers, i feel like they should be an obvious choice
@TheDjbz
@TheDjbz 9 жыл бұрын
Lelith Hesperax Vs Lucius the Eternal. (So many attacks.....)
@bigles025
@bigles025 9 жыл бұрын
i would love to see Tyberos the Red Wake of the Carcharodons in this
@PrinceEphriam
@PrinceEphriam 7 жыл бұрын
he gets his shit stomped by moloc. not really any 1 space marine has a good chance of beating moloc outside of Lysander.
@CalimeroDu64
@CalimeroDu64 9 жыл бұрын
these should really be "best of 3" lol that was some pretty non-average dice throwing there..
@jugujugu1
@jugujugu1 9 жыл бұрын
II__Nymeria__lI Agreed. Chances of rolling 2 ones from 5 hits and ten again 2 ones from 4 hits is just incredible. I still refuse to believe that Lord Moloc can lose that
@koinzellthegrayed7860
@koinzellthegrayed7860 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Elbakidze Would an AP 2 weapon on Sang make a difference in this fight you think? Moloc does have a Storm Shield, but a 2+ to 3+ save is a pretty big change.
@vadameee
@vadameee 9 жыл бұрын
Andrew Zomerlei maybe but the sanguinor still only has a 4++ to save against the ap2 spear, even if the sang had an ap2 weapon on average he still would lose
@barbtandavion8233
@barbtandavion8233 7 жыл бұрын
its 2+ armor 3+storm shiled and 4+ iron halo
@Lashrath
@Lashrath 8 жыл бұрын
I really like how Moloc is painted... (drools)
@krilc
@krilc 9 жыл бұрын
I want to see Emperor's Champion Versus Skulltaker
@H-man414
@H-man414 9 жыл бұрын
been after moloc for ages!
@paladonis
@paladonis 9 жыл бұрын
So had a random suggestion for ya Dave. You had wanted to do a bit more with Know your Lore stuff, if I remember right. Why not take these who would wins as the chance? I know you are all busy but I feel like a quick minute or two video before the who would wins might be a neat way to learn WHY these are great characters. I don't consider myself the expert with WH40K lore, but I have been learning, and this might be a fun way to spark an interest as to why I should get that model besides how cool it fights. Just a random thought. I know....dangerous. Or Chaotic. Or both! Also I agree. Best 2/3 on these would be kinda neat too.
@2jamesha
@2jamesha 9 жыл бұрын
Marneus Calgar Vs the SwarmLord
@historyguy98
@historyguy98 8 жыл бұрын
Would you guys be able to do Moloc vs Sevatar?
@boxy2k8
@boxy2k8 9 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Shadowsword with 4 sponsons vs Lord of Skulls. Not enough Imperial Guard love in these!
@Mathew2792
@Mathew2792 9 жыл бұрын
Dante vs Avatar of Khaine Fulgrim vs Wraithlord
@Isvoor
@Isvoor 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, Asterion is cheating. He brought orbital bombardment to a duel
@joachimvorbechchristensen3852
@joachimvorbechchristensen3852 9 жыл бұрын
Isvoor He's a chapter master, what are you gonna do? :)
@nikezor1
@nikezor1 9 жыл бұрын
Joachim Vorbech Christensen Commander Dante doesnt get any orbital bombardment :(
@snailsnussy1070
@snailsnussy1070 9 жыл бұрын
Isvoor But it is my most favorite toy to bring!! :(
@georgevanderslice9720
@georgevanderslice9720 3 жыл бұрын
He is an Iron Warrior, what else would you expect?
@christianfinken6433
@christianfinken6433 9 жыл бұрын
One Unit of Castellan Robots (2 Robots + Datasmith) VS. 10 Wraithblades
@UlvenDagoth
@UlvenDagoth 9 жыл бұрын
Will we ever get to see Mortarion?
@Wolfirhart
@Wolfirhart 9 жыл бұрын
Sororitas Repentias vs Banshees
@F4GRAPHICS
@F4GRAPHICS 9 жыл бұрын
I gave moloc a force stave and a wrist storm bolter- my gk grand master, maybe Janus because he matches the artwork :)
@ZombieX13
@ZombieX13 8 жыл бұрын
I wanna get into this but I just don't have the time or money. :'( Maybe I just go paint a couple and see how I feel after the paint seeps into my blood stream.
@Walruswithlegs
@Walruswithlegs 9 жыл бұрын
What codex is asterion from
@Adrenelini
@Adrenelini 9 жыл бұрын
Iron hand straken vs old one eye/carnifex
@beardguy9089
@beardguy9089 9 жыл бұрын
Sanguinor sounds like a weird dinosaur
@3hobbitsinacoat
@3hobbitsinacoat 9 жыл бұрын
UNLEASH THE HORDES 200pts of cultists marked of khorne vs 200pts of termagaunts
@zamulI
@zamulI 9 жыл бұрын
I have a question if i am building tactical marine then can i give him heavy bolter with jump pack? or i need to get for him normal backpack what its changing? (I am new)
@Louchytech
@Louchytech 9 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, Tactical Marines can't take jump packs so if you want to use him in a game just give him a regular backpack. But if you just want a cool looking model then go nuts! A jump pack dude with a heavy bolter would be badass ;)
@zamulI
@zamulI 9 жыл бұрын
I mean i can make them with chainsaw and jump packs but i can make them with bolters so i cannot decide ;-; can he fly when have the jump pack? Thanks for anwser by the way :)
@TNTLotLP
@TNTLotLP 9 жыл бұрын
zamul I Only assault marines have jump packs, so if you're making tactical marines, don't give him a jump pack. Look in the space marine codex to see what is and isn't allowed.
@zamulI
@zamulI 9 жыл бұрын
oh ok i just start my first pack and by month i will buy codex so thanks
@TNTLotLP
@TNTLotLP 9 жыл бұрын
zamul I You can also only take on heavy weapon and one special weapon for every squad of 10. Only one special OR a heavy weapon if the squad is less than 10 marines.
@HighBoOsT100
@HighBoOsT100 9 жыл бұрын
Basic Legion Of The Damned vs Basic Space Marine Tactical Squad Power Weapon and Plasma Gun max.
@trialbystone2532
@trialbystone2532 9 жыл бұрын
Is the minotaurs guy from forgeworld?
@Kolanetsi
@Kolanetsi 9 жыл бұрын
Ye
@goldenhunter1502
@goldenhunter1502 8 жыл бұрын
Lord Asterion Molic Vs Dante of the Blood angels (space vampires)
@blu-3664
@blu-3664 9 жыл бұрын
As a minotaur's player :P I don't agree with the outcome! Should have fired the spear (hits on 2+) instead of bombardment after sanguin moved 6 and ended a turn! On averages as well that was preeeetty terrible armor save rolling xD I think more often then not with the wound + save advantage +ap2 weapon moloc should put his foot through sanguin XD. He is a bit of a beast though I've run him in tournaments and he's sooo difficult for people to remove. Run him with his chaplain buddy and honor guard with a chapter banner in a regular game watch him go beast mode with 4 base +1 banner +1 charge +1 Chaplain for a total of 7 attacks at str6 ap2! Sad they changed his preferred enemy to not include grey knights, it used to before xD I imagine the two fighting would be a pretty cinematic event nonetheless I'm fairly bias in my favoring of Moloc though xD
@blu-3664
@blu-3664 9 жыл бұрын
***** In fact, its likely even with botched saves if Moloc had fired his spear instead of the bombardment he would have won! 2+ hit 2+ wound, fail a 4+ add that to the first round of combat would have been moloc 2 wounds left and sanguin dead!
@Undeadpank
@Undeadpank 9 жыл бұрын
***** Realistically in terms of fluff, the sanguinor would win so I think the outcome was actually a realistic one
@CxOrillion
@CxOrillion 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, this outcome was largely due to the ridiculous amount of failed saves. Seriously, 4 failed 2+ saves out of 9? In any legitimate battle, Moloc would've broken The Sanguinor in half. In terms of fluff, sure, this battle makes sense, but not in terms of rules. Dante would've been a much better opponent, I think. Both chapter masters, after all.
@blu-3664
@blu-3664 9 жыл бұрын
undead Pank Going on fluff, Moloc would likely lose the first time around, then after his consciousness was transmitted to the next Moloc on the construction line he would come back and likely rectify his earlier mistakes when dealing with sanguin. As is the current one being one of several reincarnations of the chaptermaster.
@Undeadpank
@Undeadpank 9 жыл бұрын
***** one does not simply "deal" with the sanguinor, for starters the blood angels or one of the decendant chapters would need to be in serious danger, in fact i reckon the sanguinor would just ovee look moloc, he has bigger fish to fry.
@Bigjonmetal
@Bigjonmetal 9 жыл бұрын
do Zhuphor
@shawndavidspears8250
@shawndavidspears8250 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, please everyone don't think that I am an idiot. Should have read unit types again, bu in my defense just read HoW alone it's sort of a catch all type of rule. Sorry, this is old so not many will see it . Love your vids
@Dasmaster1
@Dasmaster1 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one disturbed by the crotch wings?
@blowing_chunks1845
@blowing_chunks1845 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a lore reason that Asterion Moloc has Preferred Enemy against Space Marines?
@bignumbergobrrr1370
@bignumbergobrrr1370 6 жыл бұрын
mrhuman guy they have a reputation for putting down errant marines that the chapters are too busy to get too. He also relishes in the reputation of being a cybernetic marine raper
@clarkelewis2142
@clarkelewis2142 9 жыл бұрын
grimaldus vs asmodai
@MitchellLuthi
@MitchellLuthi 9 жыл бұрын
Emperor's Champion vs. Kharne :D
@ghazghkull133
@ghazghkull133 9 жыл бұрын
Mitch Luthi Kharn wins. Higher initiative and AP 2 weapon. And more wounds. For being a character designed to win duels, the emperor's champion is sadly pathetic at taking on anyone actually meant to win duels. Unless you have a lower initiative and T3, the emperor's champion really shouldn't scare you.
@MitchellLuthi
@MitchellLuthi 9 жыл бұрын
Unlawful Waffle Kharn is initiative 5, so is the EC. Kharn has a 5+ invul against the 4+ invul of the EC. The EC re-rolls all to hit in challenges and causes instant death on a 6. Kharne only ignores instant death from force. Kharn should win but just one 6 from the EC and he is probably dead.
@MitchellLuthi
@MitchellLuthi 9 жыл бұрын
Unlawful Waffle That being said, EC is pretty terrible for his points :(
@MitchellLuthi
@MitchellLuthi 9 жыл бұрын
Aaron Richards "If he has Eternal Warrior he ignores Instant Death, period." So? He doesn't have Eternal Warrior. He has the Blessing of the Blood God rule which ignores ID from force weapons.
@ghazghkull133
@ghazghkull133 9 жыл бұрын
Mitch Luthi Isnt the EC's rule instant death on ALL wounds not just on sixes? The rules gives him instant death on his attacks or S6. I don't think it says instant death on sixes. Also Kharn is only I5? Wow i thought it was higher.
@vidbeppe
@vidbeppe 9 жыл бұрын
A Chapter Master Vs a stupid fluffy golden chicken?
@MsCreepyChan
@MsCreepyChan 9 жыл бұрын
I thought Moloc was And They Shall Know No Fear not Fearless. IMO, ATSKNF is a better ability for a Melee unit, anyway
@halosky258
@halosky258 9 жыл бұрын
Get wrecked Minotaurs
@CaptainCoolpants101
@CaptainCoolpants101 9 жыл бұрын
Why would the big guys hatred space Marines (or proffered enemy I can't remember) not effect grey knights?
@EnvoyofDemise
@EnvoyofDemise 9 жыл бұрын
CaptainCoolpants101 in the fluff the minotaurs would fight space marines for example when the lamenters entered the badab war the minotaurs were the ones to assault them and make them surrender.
@moo6378
@moo6378 9 жыл бұрын
Grey knights are a different faction space marines
@ChaoticHeretic
@ChaoticHeretic 9 жыл бұрын
CaptainCoolpants101 For one Grey knights are not Adeptus Astartes. Grey Knights do come from space marines but when they are recruited there names are blacked out and there wereabouts forever unknown....and I believe they belong to the faction Ordo Mallius
@H-man414
@H-man414 9 жыл бұрын
CaptainCoolpants101 Minotaurs fought against "rebel" space marines in Badab, eventually winning, they now have a prefferred enemy for them
@CaptainCoolpants101
@CaptainCoolpants101 9 жыл бұрын
The reason I ask is because chaos Marines with veterans get hatred space Marines, and it works against grey knights does it not?
@RoboticDragon
@RoboticDragon 9 жыл бұрын
Lord Solar Macharius vs I dunno
@jebadaiah1228
@jebadaiah1228 9 жыл бұрын
That is the worst rolling of 2+ armor saves i've seen to date.
@snailsnussy1070
@snailsnussy1070 9 жыл бұрын
***** Happens more than you think lol
@vadameee
@vadameee 9 жыл бұрын
***** then you clearly have not seen me take gk paladins to a tourney and on 6 armour saves and roll 5 1s losing them all to a single shot from a manticore
@janbos8775
@janbos8775 9 жыл бұрын
5 lych gurad with shield and sword against 5 terminators
@BLasterchief180
@BLasterchief180 9 жыл бұрын
I don't understand some of these who would wins. The minotaurs guy rolled really bad, but who thought this would have been a good match with standard rolling?
@commandervulkan
@commandervulkan 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who painted The Sanguinor silver?
@vadameee
@vadameee 9 жыл бұрын
commandervulkan I painted my grey knights gold, I never see alternate paint jobs on GK
@marthaacosta5998
@marthaacosta5998 8 жыл бұрын
EHW2 sangiunious is a primarch not him
@Lord_Jamesinatre
@Lord_Jamesinatre 9 жыл бұрын
Lots of 'of the' sin the description
@aurionblackfyre8480
@aurionblackfyre8480 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like in actual life Asterion would destroy him
@DP-dd6hl
@DP-dd6hl 7 жыл бұрын
u cant base who would win in a single bout. fight them 10 times and see on average who is better
@conorbuckman340
@conorbuckman340 8 жыл бұрын
SPACE SPARTANS!
@mateodavidgutierrezgonzale6556
@mateodavidgutierrezgonzale6556 9 жыл бұрын
YES. MINOTAAAAAURS
@BirdRaiserE
@BirdRaiserE 8 жыл бұрын
Wait Isn't Sanguinor a freaking primarch? I would have thought he would be some sort of god amongst men. How does a chapter master stand his ground against a primarch?
@BirdRaiserE
@BirdRaiserE 8 жыл бұрын
ay my bad that's sanguinuis I'm thinking of
@phonecian1001
@phonecian1001 8 жыл бұрын
+EHW2 the sanguinor acted as a proxy-sanguinius in imperium secundus so sangy could do blood angel things while sanguinor listened to all the stupid shit (sanguinius became the emperor in imperium secundus) and he randomly shows up in blood angel battles and wrecks shit
@informationmeanslive2797
@informationmeanslive2797 8 жыл бұрын
+Rabart what
@stevelaw3058
@stevelaw3058 8 жыл бұрын
+Rabart I believe you're confusing the Sanguinor with Azkaellon, the dude who was chosen from the ranks of the sanguinary guard to be Sanguinius' bodyguard/secretary. Nobody knows who or what the Sanguinor really is
@J_Warral
@J_Warral 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Asterion has Iron Halo and his Shield?... Invulnerable Save anyone? You guys, either f*cked up really hard or just "accidently" (focus on quote-unquote) forgot to let Sanguinor win.
@DanielFrederiksen123
@DanielFrederiksen123 7 жыл бұрын
Евгения Ремезова He got his armour save, so why would the invul matter?
@Timeflower01
@Timeflower01 9 жыл бұрын
can we get real battle reports insteed >>?
@snailsnussy1070
@snailsnussy1070 9 жыл бұрын
Christoffer Tidblom There are plenty on the MWG channel with my minotaurs :)
@Timeflower01
@Timeflower01 9 жыл бұрын
Thomas Collier ye but it gets boring with the who would win spam if you dont enjoy it and you are up to date with everything else.
@TNTLotLP
@TNTLotLP 9 жыл бұрын
Christoffer Tidblom I don't see how? You can just ignore these videos if you don't enjoy them. And if you're seriously up to date with everything you might be suffering from chronic excess spare time syndrome.
@Timeflower01
@Timeflower01 9 жыл бұрын
Joost Zaal its what happens when you got sick leave for an extended period. and I am ingoring them but they are taking up space over normal battle reports considering they are only doing 2 reports a day.
@Lorian667
@Lorian667 9 жыл бұрын
I don't like forgeworld and wouldn't play against FW Models. To sell more miniatures they give them even better abilities than GW does.
@lacedaimonian
@lacedaimonian 9 жыл бұрын
I like he sanguinor but he shouldn't have won, he needs a few changes to be good even just independent character would make him way better.
@nick22279
@nick22279 9 жыл бұрын
Silly results ... Moloc's armor saves where highly non statistical
@evanrenforth5944
@evanrenforth5944 7 жыл бұрын
Asterion has to win
@shawndavidspears8250
@shawndavidspears8250 8 жыл бұрын
Think you f@ck up. Jump infantry get Hammer of Wrath no matter what "if the unit end their assault in base contact with an enemy model or vehicle they make one additional attack blah blah blah " straight out the RB. remember that BTW thank you guys I didn't know GC's got FNP and I have a Stormsurge on the way. Love the vids
@LuiBei1994
@LuiBei1994 9 жыл бұрын
wait preferred enemy space marines?....arent they loyalists? minotaurs are loyalists no?
@barbtandavion8233
@barbtandavion8233 7 жыл бұрын
they arnt really loyal to anyone besides the high lords of terra and they wiped out the 2 ultramarines succesorchapters and they destroyed the lamentors
@barbtandavion8233
@barbtandavion8233 7 жыл бұрын
they deal with traitor legions that wanted to fight against the emperor but not for chaos
@yourapeeinguy8263
@yourapeeinguy8263 2 жыл бұрын
Sanguinor *should* win
@Undeadpank
@Undeadpank 9 жыл бұрын
dante vs moloc is a better fight...
@Undeadpank
@Undeadpank 9 жыл бұрын
undead Pank Oh forget that....i totally did not expect that outcome!
@snailsnussy1070
@snailsnussy1070 9 жыл бұрын
undead Pank I rolled like poop lol but still was an awesome underdog fight
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