It's not only that he did not think about your comfort during meal service, but also the way he reclined his seat that makes me think that no matter what you had said, would not have made a difference. Takes all kinds... Thanks for the report.

Your far better than most ludicrous bloggers about aviation . I appreciate how genuine you are unlike the other arrogant brads who only focus on negative aspects! Keep doing the great job ! Congrats

Never seen a review you did I didn't like, Scott. As always, good job! And thank you!

First sanspotter I've seen for a while. Great script.

Seats stay forward during meal service. Solid review as always

i see you watching Bullet Train really matches the vibes of the LED lights on the flight. thank you for always taking us with you wherever you go!

Fantastic trip report as always Scott!

I have always found that asking the crew to have a word works a treat. I have no issue with anyone reclining seat on a long haul at any other time. And I always recline mine at non meal times. It’s there to be used.

Great flight as always.

I really enjoy the ambient sounds of the plane and the darkness at 10:30, it really seems nice to take some rest.

Thanks for the info and video!!!

Wow that recline was intense! However that birds-eye view of the aftermath was pretty cutting-edge and a perspective I haven’t seen from other av-KZfaqrs

JAL definitely made the right choice with their clamshell Premium Economy seats in their new A350-1000. Never any intrusion into the personal space of the person behind.

I took this flight in October last year in economy. The leg room was so bad that I had to use my pillow to cushion my knees against the seat. The KLM flight back (on a 777) was much better! Great vid!

Great review! That “seat in your face” situation would be very frustrating for me. I think I would just cozy up with that awesome lap blanket and sleep it off! 😁

I flew their premium economy seat on the 777 which feature a clam shell design. That is realy nice and would recommend that for sure! Gratis video @sanspotter!

I love the Air France safety video.

Kudos for keeping a positive attitude and making best of things. I'm one of the few people who prefer fixed shell seats that recline or slide forward for exactly that reason. It might be slightly less of a recline but it's enough for me, especially if I never have to deal with this situation. Unfortunately only few airlines offer them in PE (Japan Airlines and Swiss for example)

Fascinating to watch this as I flew Air France 777 Premium Economy back in December from JFK to Paris CDG and that version actually has the clamshell design so that the recline doesn't affect your fellow passengers, interesting to see that the A350 version does not have this variation though... If only airlines could have a uniform cabin layout across their fleets 😂🙈 Anyways great job Scott as always 👍🏻😎

I recently flew AF from Paris to Dubai in one of their older 777, the seats in premium economy were different. Due to its design, even when fully reclined, the space of the person behind would not be affected at all. So I kept that huge leg room even when the seat in front of me was fully reclined. It felt a lot more private as well. I am not sure if I had that same amount of recline, but felt like being enough for premium economy. I feel like the new seats are not as good as the older ones, but some people said that those "older seats" were not too comfortable, not sure why. Not sure how is it in the A350, but in the 777, there is a significant difference between the space in Economy vs Premium economy, on the way back to Europe I took economy (something I came to regret) as was very cramped, meal size and choices were smaller as well. Depending on the price, this could still be worth it.

I just booked 10J from CDG to AUH because of this video... thanks!

love you trips Scott. one of my favorite travel KZfaqrs (and I watch many). good humour and production. i firmly believe that economy or P economy seats should recline by moving the seat part forward so it uses up the persons legroom like on trains. the back tilts but does not actually move back into the person behind.

Beautiful Air Craft,I Like The Cuisine Aboard,I Like The Seat Better On The A330.Great Video

Great video Scott my friend! I hope to try the BRILLIANT NEW Air France A350-900 sometime soon for the FAB food and isn't she just such a STUNNING JET! I've always loved the AF livery its smooth lines, classy colors & laidback calming colours on the GORGEOUS A350 it is just THE BEST LIVERY on ANY AIRLINE and on ANY A350 for sure! Cheers 🥂 my friend Here's to Air France also, I will use T5 at O'Hare this winter when I fly Lufthansa's B747 to Frankfurt which I CANNOT WAIT FOR don't get me wrong but T5 at ORD looks pretty poor! Finally, if I was flying with Air France 🇫🇷 I'd fly their FAB new Business Class with Michelin 5 star food! 🤤 -Caleb's Aviation

I could hear that iconic Scott Sigh right from that thumbnail text alone!

Thanks so much Scott! I am flying their new retrofitted 777 tonight and changed my seat to a bulkhead. I had to give up a window seat, but based on this review, I think the bullhead aisle is the way to go (bulkhead windows are taken)!

All I got to say about the A350 is that,I have taken 2 flights on them,and both times the take off power just amazes me,kind of reminds me of the C-17s from when I was in the army.

I had the same space issues with BA Premium Economy recently on their 4-class 777-200. The cabin crew were not willing to ask the person in front to reduce the recline during meal service, and it was difficult to get out of the middle seats too. It seemed to be a bit better on their 787-10 but it was still a bit tight.

During meal service, I always ask the flight attendant if they can get the person in front to straighten their seat backs. Worked for me 100% so far.

Really appreciate the fact that you blur the faces of other passengers

We flew AF from Paris to Bangkok a few weeks ago. Hated the fact that on full recline it's impossible for the person behind to get out their chair or view their screen properly. I'm sure these AF seats are just a bit narrower so felt very confined. Btw, KLM use the same seats. Great to see new stuff from you

Finally, someone who appreciates AF's livery. I would be so annoyed if someone reclined their seat like that, I don't think talking to him would have made a difference. That snack box looks so good.

I had the same issue returning to US - guy ahead of me reclined the entire flight. So I felt cramped in Premium Economy. I feel your pain!

I flew from Paris to Chicago last year in January and it was an experience next to the person I was sitting with in economy

Thank you for this review, I especially appreciate a Premium Economy seat review. For the record, I would have said something to the guy in front of you during meal service and agreed that everyone gets to recline during the time to sleep.

That recline is actually ridiculous. I get the guy in front was probably tired, but if it's interfering with having your meal or using the IFE then I would have asked to pull the seat upright a bit. Definitely a flaw in the design - if you're paying that much extra for premium, being pinned in your seat (like that poor lady sitting next to you) ain't it.

Great video! We are booked in AF premium economy this summer. I’m wondering if the bulkhead seats have foot rests? If so, I would definitely book bulkhead. Otherwise, I want the footrests.

Yes I would said something or asked the crew to do so. It is common courtesy to put your seat upright for meal service. This is what is practiced in SQ & CX economy.

Babe, wake up, a SANspotter video dropped!

Hi Scott. It's just as well you got all those steps in, at the airport, considering how you were "stuck" in your seat. That bloke in row 10, reclining his seat so far, would have really pissed me off. I reckon I would next a chiropractor after twisting my back , if I was trying to get up !

I loved the Veal Blanquette dish

Thanks for the great video we changed our seats to the first row of premium economy thanks to your video. Travelling with family so we're in the middle row

I liked this product of Air France, the service and experience. I flew in a B777-300 🛫

I’ve flown both Delta and Air Grance flights regularly to Paris. I can tell you without a doubt, the AF main cabin seats have more legroom than the Delta planes. AF main cabin felt like Delta C+ to me.

Great video. Highly recommend Virgin's Premium Economy. Incredible service and food... nothing like a good English breakfast to welcome you to London.

You won't get any flack from me on that full recliner in front....I would have asked a Flight Attendant to suggest he sit up during the dinner service...or at least lessen the recline. But I'm a big guy and probably would have filled out that seat a whole lot more than you did. How did you contort your body to escape the seat mid-flight? I haven't flown since 2021, due to not having a need to and recovering from a badly broken leg in 2022 (still)...but somewhere down the line, I'll be back flying again. Not sure I could have escaped that seat cell. As always Scott....great review and keep flying and having fun!

Yippie, another SANspotter review from Scott!! How did you get lucky with having an empty car on the Airtrain or whatever O'Hare calls their automated people mover? I have been on that thing all times of the day from 4:30am to almost midnight, including midday, and it is always packed when I ride it. I totally agree with you about Terminal 5, and the new Delta portion of the terminal has done nothing to improve it. There are poor food options, and the only Priority Pass lounge in all of O'hare is in Terminal 5, the Swiss Lounge that almost never allows Priority Pass members in (I had a Credit Card that came with Priority Pass, but that was dropped, so I guess it doesn't matter anymore). Maybe once the new global terminal opens (if it gets built) and Terminal 5 becomes a Skyteam/Southwest/ULCC terminal primarily, things will get better. Or maybe not.

You really need to try the old shell premium seat. Hard as a rock. I never had my ass hurt as bad as it did on that flight. Even sitting on 2 pillows

Hello maybe I missed something but why did you spent so long in the boarding area when you had Sky Priority access on the lounge Also to be honest I personally liked the old fix PE seats that apparently a loads of people hate, with those seats no one had those problems on people reclining their seats Thank you so much for the video, great review !!! Warm regards

The person reclining reminded me of a flight I was on where the person in front of me decided to do so right after lift off. Full force slam back.

Gotta say I expected more from the food. The meals looked close to what I got in Y with them back in 2019 and even United managed two hot meals on ORD to LHR in Decembe, a flight thats an hour shorter...

Happed to me on my first international flight from Chicago to Paris haha. I bumped their seat every 20 minutes to let them know I’m 6’3

Great review as always, regarding the recline, to do that at meal time is very rude. After the meal you should have reclined yours and that would have given you the same space as before.

Terminal 5 used to be my go-to place to hang out at ORD. Before the pandemic, it has the best food, and amazing plane spotting. You'd see A340s, 777, A330, 747, and 787s. Also you'd see a variety of international airlines, Turkish, Norwegian, SAS, Korean Air, Jordanian, etc. After the pandemic the place is a desert. Half of it is shut down, most of the restaurants are gone, and now it's a SouthWest hub. I used to sneak in taking flights to and from Phoenix on Frontier as they had two gates in terminal 5. I enjoyed hitting on the British ladies while waiting in security. I'd always let everyone I chatted up down with my admitting that I was going to Phoenix and nowhere exotic or at all interesting.

Did I spot Xeros? Great taste and video!

Im booked on this aircraft in row 11. Does row 10 also have a footrest?

I did Paris to Singapore recently and opted for Singapore Airlines over Air France and I think I nailed it with my choice 😂. Their lovely crew asked reclining people to go upright for meal service. 12 hour flight between Paris and Singapore and I was in economy but it was pretty good on their 777😃

If I’m not in first or business class, I am for sure in premium economy. I always choose the first row in premium so I don’t get pinned in. Been there, done that.😂 Love the review Scott!❤✈️

Damn it's been a while man! How come you don't upload every week or like every month? And that row 10 guy didn't do you justice. I hate those types of people..... Good review as always

I also love it when you upload!

If everyone reclines their seats, everyone is comfortable. If you choose not to recline your seat, that’s your own fault. So sick of hearing people complain about reclined seats.

Thanks, Scott In row 12, you can fully recline with no guilt, right? We're going to be flying that from LAX-CDG in a few months. It will be my first time not in cattle class. (My wife, who is a babe, has been upgraded when flying solo.)

Have only travelled the AF PE clamshell seats so I don’t know for sure but these row 10 bulkhead seats might be narrower as the seats will need to accommodate the tray and IFE screen. The IFE screens might not be so good either.

When delays to Europe occur, check out passenger rights. The reason is key to a time and distance formula for accountability compensation, irrespective of travel class. A 45 min delay would not qualify, minimums apply.

Air France had hard shell designs, then did a complete 180 when people didn’t like them. That recline is ludicrous!

Thank you for a very well made video! That’s a common problem in many premium economy products, too much recline making it almost impossible for middle seat pax to move… The A350 was AF’s first attempt at recliner seats in PE (the former version found on other aircrafts are fixed shell seats, which are better for personal space, but at the cost of much less recline). Glad to see AF finally introduced proper metal cutlery in PE (looks the same as business class actually) as it was still wooden cutlery a few months ago. Alas, the second meal is the same as economy and I don’t like this snack bag presentation which doesn’t look premium at all. All in all a pretty good flight but this cabin on AF is quite overpriced for what it is IMO. PS: that guy reclining just after take off and staying reclined during the meal service is so rude, as is the other bulkhead guy putting his shoes on the wall…

The British Airways premium economy seats on their A350’s are similar in that the recline pins you in. Getting out past a fully reclined seat is difficult. I now avoid BA premium economy based on this.

I just flew in PE from ORD to VIE on Austrian, and I noticed the same thing. I sat in the bulkhead and was very happy I did so. I also made a point of not putting my seat all the way back and never at all during meal services. If you're in the bulkhead, especially with a partner, it's much better value than business class imo. Also, Austrians planes are clean. Air France planes always seem dirty to me, but then again France is much dirtier than Austria.

As a Chicagoan, I generally don’t mind flying out of O’Hare. Security is quick and there are lots of flight options. I’m not in the airport long enough for it to really grate on me and I think T1 is cool. But I HATE T5. It’s cramped, security sucks, the food options are limited and they close way too early. And it’s a hike to get transportation into the city.

My opinion is that the stewards should told the passenger in front you to put the seat up during the meal.

"Clogged up Real Good" I'm probably the only one that caught that reference...SCTV..Home Alone...O'Hara...John Candy😂😂😂

I don't recline until the person in front of me reclines.

Scott, you are a great Vlogger and 10/10 for persistence as you are in such a crowded space of flight/train/boat/hotel vloggers. Your sub count doesn't reflect the quality of your product

I have the women’s version of those Prios and also don’t love crumbly food while traveling. 😅

The older recline in shell seats weren’t very comfortable, but they avoided the issue of a selfish neighbour. The absence of any menus is just sloppy, unless AF have moved this onto the screen in front?

Recline time is AFTER meal service! I would have thought the crew would have said something to the guy in front. Must be a french thing. Always enjoy your trip reports!

“I am seeing individual pixels” 😂😢 The flight attendants should have done something about the recliner before the meal service. The more I fly, the more I am convinced people who test these seats never test them in the installed configuration and have no idea how bad they actually are.

FAs should tell the people to not recline during meal service. One flight a guy just went full recline during meal and I smelled like vodka for 5 hours

KLM premium economy is way better the seats are very similar to Deltas domestic first class seats less crowded 2-3-2 vs 3-3-3 on regular economy on a 787-10 and better food quality closer to a business class meal. I’ve flown KLM a handful of times from SFO to AMS and I’ve never had a bad experience with them I would recommend giving them a try.

Hi, Scott. Great review. I might be in a majory of one with my next comment. I don't rate Air France at all. I have only flown them once and in business class and nevr again if I can help it. Cabin crew were not that friendly and the food was mediocre. In fact it was poor. The bread roll was so hard it broke my tooth! Give me Virgin America or Qantas everytime. Having said that I am intending to fly Lufthansa as part of a trip to Austrailia next, but it will be in first class on the iconic 747. Looking foward to that as it also involves a leg in Singapore first class as well. Thanks for the, at times, comical videos that you produce🙃🙂❤

I would definitely have talked with the person in front of you. Probably this person wasn't even aware of the situation. Will fly tomorrow with AF PE. I am looking forward to my adventure.

Good review. I would have asked the stewardess to get the offender to move his seat upright. Air France? On a par with BA. But their business class flights are often very competitively priced.

Such a small cabin. I bet those seats fill up quickly.

I would keep knocking bumping hitting the seat in front of me. And if that guy complained, I would say “I don’t have any space left to move, I can’t help it”

That seat was reclined way too much.

I find its the flight attendant to say something during meals.

Seat recline like this on a long haul is ridiculous. I would definitely have complained to the F.A. That’s why I only fly Business class now on my usual long haul. Yes it costs a lot more but worth it in every way. 😊

Imo, it is the steward's responsibility to tell ALL passengers to bring seats full upright during meals

CANn you on row 10 extend fully your legs with the bulkhead wall in front of you when you are 6'2 Foot?

you didn't walk to the nice new part of terminal 5?

Absolutely Scott you should have said something. That’s just not on, glad he didn’t put his hands behind his head or have a pony tail. Still as I have personally discovered that does give you something else to do with the butter. Your a trouper

The Iberia A350 Premium economy seats have the same problem, and it should be mandatory to put the seat upright during meal service.

Alot of those people flying in January are probably people returning to Europe post holidays.

The crew should have told him to bring his seat forward for the duration of the meal service.

I choose Singapore Airline over this airline for A350! My most favourite A350 airline for Europe goes to Lufthansa!

I said holy s@&$! As you said holy crap 😂

Just by seeing the guy in front litteraly making a bed out of a seat.. Your too nice to not tell him to behave

It’s funny to think of a controller for a screen that’s less than a foot from your face.

You need 6 hours to transfer through Chicago !

Is this air France in Ivory coast