I came here to check the comment section for this. Video did not age well.

Im 3/4 the way through a unity boot camp.......

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most likely

"i think" no, by writting this, you absolutely show you are a sheep following a herd and not thinking.

Literally this lol! You can easily spot them a mile away.

i have been making games for over 10 years using various engines and i can say which engine is better, however i would need to know what type of game they're making and their skills. plus knowing what they expect and how they plan to build the project. eg.. realtime lighting vs baked.. open world.. procedural content... etc. there are better tools for the job when you know the requirements. no engine is the same.

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Nah I’ve used unity and unreal and unreal is 10x better by a long shot

@@ChrisTheCasual Then you haven't learned Unity well enough. :P

@@SnakeEngine blueprint scripting nuff said it’s more beginner friendly

​@@SnakeEngine I've used Unity and Unreal and each has pros and cons (see my WIp game on my channel)- that being said I've been forced to spend thousands of dollars buying asset store "plugins" for things that Unreal gives for free like water, effects, tools and lighting - any attempt by Unity was literally laughable or gets depreciated quite quickly. I learned after some years that Unity is a engine still being worked on and that users are beta testers for them - they suffer so the engine can be better. This forced reliance on asset store tools means you tend to get locked into lower end versions of the engine because upgrading will break something. I've also spent years fighting the engine and dealing with bugs and poorly implemented features that have literally stopped production or delayed by months certain projects. There is no contest here Unreal Engine is better hands down the main reason I am still using Unity is I have invested too much into it....however the limitations of why I didn't stay with unreal were purely that you needed modern hardware, project files were very large and I didn't like C++. Unreal was just more mature for PC while Unity was mature for mobile but NOW both engines have reached "maturity" where the difference is becoming less however Unreal will still make better looking games with less work and better performance HDRP is trash I achieved the same look in URP with little tweaks. I'm still sitting here in Unity 2021 saying ok it's been 2 years of waiting for URP shadows to get better I think I need to buy yet another asset store plugin while Unreal has it all done beautifully - it's not sustainable my advice to all game developers if START with Unreal then if it doesn't meet your needs change to Unity. Seeing these UE5 demos out of the box all setup looking so nice saves massive time to set that up in Unity good luck $$$. I feel like an idiot not changing to Unreal over these petty little things that were issues for me before. Now everyone's got a decent Nvidia card, running windows 10 and so after my game is done I am considering making my next one maybe in UE but who knows. Thing is I see nice demos from Unity but it always is just fluff and teams of people often creating custom solutions that never work for the masses - it ends up being useless and unrepeatable in practice. See how awesome every cool Unity demo from now to 10 years ago looks yet you never see anyone make games in Unity that look that good because it's all fluff and no stuff and tricks. In Unreal you can focus on the actual developing. Those visuals just feel like ASMR to me haha.

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You had me on the first sentence to be honest.

I’m brand new to game dev world. Why do people keep saying this about unity? What would you suggest for 2-2.5D beat ‘em style games like Shredders Revenge or Streets of Rage

@@timidstein888 pick an engine and learn it, doesn't matter which one, just get stuck in. Some quit, some change engines after a while, some stay. An experienced dev will make a better game in Godot than a beginner in UE5. Engine doesn't matter, it's what you know that counts. (Go Godot or Unity to get you started.) Just make something! Don't let the Unity news scare you. Every big company goes through layoffs and miss management at some point. If not for Fornite, Epic wouldn't be around or at least where it is now. Few years back they had massive layoffs just like Unity.

Thanks for the reply - I really appreciate it! @@justjarryd

Unreal is ok. Only thing they're better is just graphics. As indie dev we don't need graphics we need best experience possible and unity devs made them.

@@Trentonwu This is it, I love the pop on the unreal look, but it's damned tough and un-intuitive.

I realise this was very scummy but has anyone done the numbers? 0.2c per install say for 10 dollar game is only 2% which is still a much lower royalty than Unreal. Unreal takes 0.2cents if your game is 4 dollars which sure, is about the price range of most 'high end' mobile games but pretty low for PC games. There's concerns for exploits though for sure. Not to mention how uncertain it makes the future but I do think people are getting a bit too blinded with rage over the change, the amount they're charging is pretty low for now. Although for sure it will bankrupt a lot of smaller players who depended on having no royalties so it's a sad thing but I also think it's unreasonable to expect a company to take responsibility for every developer that's in a hard spot as harsh as that sounds. That said there's definitely real bad decision making going on at unity, but maybe not as horrifically bad as a lot of people make it out to be. This isn't to absolve them but maybe to let us have a cooler head about the situation.

​@@kelzangtobgyel3887 If your game costs 1 dollar, who is the winner now between UE and unity? ;) Did you account the fackt Unity will charge you after 100 000$? Unreal will only want money if you get more than 1 000 000$ (no per-year limit as in unreal is 10 00$ meaning muuuuch smaller games/companies will be affected by unity vs unreal). Do you know how they will handle piracy? Can you trust Unity anymore with this kind of ill thingking? Will Microsoft will want to play for games on Gamepass made by unity or will they stop including thse games in battlepass? Those are the real questions which normal game developers DO not want to solve :)

@@kelzangtobgyel3887 For high priced games it’s manageable. For a free to play mobile game with a 5% conversion from download to MAU, Each MAU is effectively costing you $4 (20x20c) which takes a lot of ads to reclaim. And with in-app purchases only being bought by a small %, everyone else is a cost-sucker.

​​​@@kelzangtobgyel3887are you still not considering re installs many ppl reinstall a game more then 2 times and what about pirated installs they will still charge you even tho someone installed a pirated copy and what about someone just want to bankrupt you and reinstalls a game or makes a script that just reinstalls a game 1000 times huh there are always more then 1 person that hats a game no matter how good it is what about they change policies again you can't trust them anymore and unreal's 5% is way cheaper when you consider how fast the engine is (fast is not in the sense light weight). (Sorry for Bad English)

@@kelzangtobgyel3887 Your logic is: "As long as you stay poor and your game is unpopular, you will be completely fine" - Which defeats the entire point of building games to reach wide mainstream audiences and create a brand name game franchise or reach commercial success. With Unreal you will be a millionaire and mainstream popular when the 5% price tax starts affecting you. The 5% is a monthly fee and relative to the money you make each month. With Unity you will be 200K richer and semi known - about to get more players to the game and about to become bankrupt due to the rise in installs fees. One is clearly better - Not Unity.

Can I know why?

Excellent well balanced comparison. What has changed that you think it doesn't age well?

@@tonyzaddo Google: "does unity charge per install"

imo the difference Epic actually makes games. all their UE5 features are in Fortnite, Unity cant make a single game to showcase anything. their ceo sucks

Unity is trash

What would you recommend for me as a total beginner to stick with in the next decade , or do i even bother learning it ? What's your thoughts on solo game dev ?

I agree with you. I think i have more of a logical mind so i've been learning unity for 1-2 years now and it would be absolutely impossible for me to switch to unreal engine now because of all the knowledge i've gathered even in that small amount of time. I tried switching to unreal but i really can't. So jusr pick an engine and stick with it is a good advice

I disagree about sticking with the engine you started with. I've used Unity from 2014 to early 2017. When Epic Games removed the paywall the had for using Unreal, I was reluctant to checking it out at first. However, after giving Unreal a spin for a couple of weeks, it just clicked with me more. Unreal just offered a more complete toolset out of the box, rather than requiring the developer to mix and match several asset store extensions which, as good as they might be, will not always play well together, and might be discounted by the developer in the future without a clear successor. So I've moved to Unreal in mid 2017 and never really looked back. I agree it's got a very weak toolset for 2D games, and optimising games for small installation sizes and weaker hardware is a pain (but not impossible, like some people would make you believe, it can be done but it'll require much research and work), but that's not a problem to me, because I'm not really interested in making 2D games. I've got nothing against 2D games, some of my favourite games ever are 2D, like Undertale and Hollow Knight. However, I personally could never feel passion for making something with 2D gameplay, it just doesn't inspire me like 3D gameplay does.

im switching to unity after using unreal for 3 years because i like to actually write code blueprints are good but its not as good as actually typing it for me, I tried to use the c++ framework but its just impractical and shouldn't be used for programming gameplay

I'm no 7 year pro but I agree.

Well that's because visual scripting is still scripting. I hope it will work well for you, jsut keep going ;).

Yee, when people told me, "You don't even need to know how to program." and the last time I tried to create an RTS all I managed to do was make the ability to select something and order the shape to move... but I didn't know how to select individual shapes it kept selecting all of them.

As a unity user for 3 years i agree with what you said they could make the engine the best it can be yet they're stumbling and i think their leadership is the problem correct me if i'm wrong

thanks for that, now I know I have to learn unreal

The fighting against Unity is so relatable - I did that for 2-3 years until I finally switched to Unreal. It's a blast of fresh air and it feels insanely good to be productive again. The only 2 things Unreal is lacking vs Unity is : - Documentation - though discord and forums can make up for that - Coding workflow - C++ is not a pratical language and going from interpreted to compiled scripting even less. Fortunately blueprints are pretty powerful and you can do mostly anything with them

@@RubenPita i definetely feel like i fight with unity alot, so many random issues that come up for seemingly no reason for me

yeah, Unity does not help you, it fight against you. Unreal feels like a tool. Unity feels like "ok, what is failing now?" contantly. They don't add almost new features, they have so many bugs it is ridiculous. Sometimes for years! Just check their current release notes on "known issues", and roll back for a year... and you will find the same "known issues" practically a year ago! wtf, seriously? 1 year of known issue and still not fixed after 55 releases? And not small ones... like for instance known issue from their release note "performance degradation on Oculus Quest" FROM UNITY 2021! (almost 2 years) and they have the balls to publish releases saying they improved performance. Unity 5 was faster than 2019, which was faster than 2020, which was faster than 2021 and 2022 and 2023... it's just ridiculous at this point. And things that were working perfectly fine on 4 releases ago, they stop working now and you may need to wait 8 months until they fix it and then you are stuck in an old version for those months.

good choice unity is dumpster fire right now

Why is it "Unity or Unreal"? You didn't even consider Godot.

Poor

Same i love playmaker and behavior designer

Playmaker is awesome!

Why playmaker when the real man write codes.

@@restushlogic5794 Real man write codes? A real man takes the most efficient way to produce a fun and working game, you are just taking the hard way to make things only to say that you write all your code. And you will never be happy about other people work that is made in a faster/smarter way still using programming (even if it's visual coding... you have to know about programming and how make everything working as expected). You think a visual coding engine is making the game for you? It is the exact same thing as writing code... but writing less code. In the near future visual coding will be used more and more... everyone will release games/software way faster than you... but still working fine. You know that the user don't give a f**ck if the game is coded from scratch or using visual coding. Nobody cares if you code everything from scratch, only your ego cares and this will be a big issue in the future because inexpert programmers will release FUN games way faster than you with less effort and you will never be happy with that. Look at my game, maybe not the top platformer for now... but it has zero written code in it... everything using Gdevelop visual scripting.

Unreal has too many files. Pretty Graphics but makes too many files.....Takes far too much storage space when editor loads in all the files. Other least favourite thing about Unreal Engine: ÓUT VIDEO MEMORY ERROR. Your Computer is not fast enough. Computer settings set at Epic. Caching... Please wait, Unreal is creating new files...Your computer is still not fast enough. Computer settings at Low.... Sorry, your computer is still not fast enough. Give me more memory. Feed me. More files. more files. ... My game had alot of places and locations so it was too large for that engine.

Learn Unreal, you will never go back to Unity. I am a Unity developer since 2008 and I dislike it every year more and more meanwhile I love Unreal every year more and more. It's like day and night. I'm stuck with Unity because my previous projects were done with it and it would take too much time and resources to move them. Don't make the same mistake.

@@joaquingrech8949 I'd use unreal if It wouldn't crash everytime I open it. doesn't take 21 gigabytes. Isnt so hard. And had more tutorials. But I guess that is just my crappy laptop.

@@joaquingrech8949 same here but stick with unity until now. It's not mistake. You Just Are Not Good Enough.

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DOTS and SRP are pretty amazing. Unreal's docs are ASS

Unity has become a "i'll milk you out of so much money as I can" since it became a stock listed company. They live out of milking developers on the asset store and they add "new features" with 2 to 3 years delay and buggy as hell. Unreal has some bugs but the performance and quality is so much better when done properly that Unity is practically a joke.

I don't think C++ is gross, it's just designed with hardware interaction in mind. And most game devs that use unity don't want to do that. So when an arcane error pops up on screen referencing some random part of the operating system it's seen as gross since it'd take the dev many hours of reading and debugging to understand what the error means. But for other people it's the other way around, it's more intuitive since it maps onto their existing knowledge about computers.

For newcomers like me, where I have the privilege to choose Unity or Unreal and not be encumbered or held back because of time, practice and assets invested, I decided to go for Unreal as it is out of the box beginner friendly that you are able to make games or visuals looking like it's from some big name triple A game company. Since time is a limited resource for me, I can't afford nor have the capability to learn two different game engines so I can only very carefully and pragmatically choose one that is ultimately the best and is future proof, and Unreal at the moment seems to be the one

i choose unity bc i don't like Film and Tv industry, and games are not films with little gameplay parts, but games should feel like you are in the game enviroment, and in that regard, unity is better.

@@Malam_NightYoru Yeah Unity is cool in that way : )

@@GameBoyyearsagoyep… so cool

@@Malam_NightYoru​​⁠​⁠​​⁠​⁠what do you think, now? Are you moving to UE/Godot/Unigine/PhaserJS/CryEngine? *Please don’t tell me you still trust Unity*

@@IamSH1VA Why would i? They fucked up, i'm not gonna defend it.

I'm unsure about Unreal but I expect either would work fine for that

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It's cool to see, but when you try with your begginer innocence to finish a game with photo realistic graphics, you understand why companys spend millions of dollars to make a game with graphics so far from photo realistic.

@@kozuskoo I like PSX game 😊

UE5 is shit at performance, nanite is still not really production ready or u have to make sacrifices, it’s great, if not excellent for virtual production (but even there it comes with costs and flaws) and excells in rendering quality over basically everything, but the performance cost and complexity makes it really difficult for indie or smaller studios to win the fight against the engine, I worked for 1 year on a project besides my real work and it simply didn’t met my needs, too hard to achieve a good result with good performance, I switched to unity, was horrible to switch, but since I love learning new stuff (blender, c4d, maya and Houdini one after the other) I felt at home quite quickly, biggest benefit of Unity still is the much bigger community, the huge amount of very good courses, tutorials and books. I love unreal for everything else than game dev and will keep using both just for completely different tasks

true, UE is really tied to mainstream games (fps,tps) thus so difficult to create more unique mechanic games

Yes I am . I am not gong to change. Love Unity and all it can do with C#

It's getting frustrating. Even worse when I'm testing multiple clients.

@@BooneyTune I had to lower the quality settings because I just used a laptop

why would someone NEED to extract 100% of the engine in a project. I thought gaming was for fun, and not for some stupid rivalry.