Since the beginning of the diet solution industry, the most profitable sales pitch was always the one that said: “and you can still eat all your favorite foods.”

Fatty meats are much more satiating to me than lean meats. Lean meats leave me craving something else, usually sweets.

Quit listening to Ted Naiman after several times thinking, "that doesn't make sense"... now I know why!

I love Nick's perspective, I just subscribe to his channel. I never judge people for their dietary choices. If it works for them, I respect that and won't impose my own preferences. This understanding is crucial for our community to see real growth.

What is the best Ice Cream for Metabolic Health? What is the best Peanut Butter Cup for Metabolic Health? What is the best Cinnamon Bun for Metabolic Health? What is the best Candy Bar for Metabolic Health? What is the best Pizza for Metabolic Health? LOL! If you're asking questions like that you're not looking for Metabolic Health. 😅🤣😂

Well, all I know is that if ice cream is put in front of me , there is no limit to the amount I could consume if I let myself. I’ve been carnivore for 18 months 😟

It is comforting to know you guys in the know are watching out for some of us who are not as readily prepared to evaluate false claims. TYVM

I am overjoyed to be on no insulin for type 1 diabetes after being told 10 years ago I would be on it for life. My results for MS are next. I don’t know the science and…. All I can say is science never helped my weight loss, Hashimotos, Graves Disease but Carnivore has totally given me my life back. I am so happy 😊

Even before I discovered Keto a few years ago, if some yahoo tried to tell me that ice cream was healthier than eggs I would have laughed in their face. I'm surprised anyone would take this drivel seriously.

I'm so glad I don't eat carbs! Thank you Dr. Berry for this one!

Signed up for Hava early on and determined itwas half baked. Dr Nick did a great job at fighting a straw man

The first time I ever saw Dr Ken Berry was on Diet Doctor some years ago - I found the Diet Doctor site very helpful getting started in low carb. And Dr Ted Naiman as well - lots of good info about the importance of weight training. So, I am sorry that Drs. Eenfeldt and Naiman have kind of lowered their scientific standards to promote this questionable program. And Dr. Nick, you are polite, civilized, yet you do insist on some degree of scientific rigor. Thank you.

Well done, Dr. Nick! Let’s make science scientific again! No more questionable $cience! Thank you, Dr. Berry!

My beefs with Ted and Adreas' model are: 1) They arbitrarily include fiber as promoting satiety. I don't think it does. Being physically stuffed =/= satiety. 2) They don't differentiate between animal fats and industrially processed seed oils. I'm not surprised that Ted advocates this. He is pure Bro-Sci from way back. I expect more rigorous science from Andreas.

Single ingredient food and minimal ingredient food (I.E cheese) that is as close to nature as possible are the way to go. Nourishment is straightforward.

Two most insidious "sins": those of omission, and those of pride. Don't be fooled that it's arrogance or just stubbornness. And I hope both of you keep your integrity and not fall into these pits! Thanks for being you, both of you!

Thank you, Nick! I thank Diet Doctor for helping me establish my low-carb lifestyle that I've been on for 5 years now and never letting go! It's unfortunate if money has indeed muddled the waters

This is marketing vs science. Science wins.

Thank you, Dr Berry and thank you, Nick.

Intermittent fasting to 16 hours is easy for me but the minute I eat anything I’m stuffed! All I’ve had today is 3 scrambled eggs with a little fried onions, 7 garlic stuffed jumbo green olives, and a 4oz hamburger with a fried egg. Not hungry but I know it’s not enough for me to eat and my fat stomach is bothering me if I eat too much! Now I feel like I’m not eating enough and that if I just had a pecan roll I’d feel better and not so stuffed! Driving me nuts!

I reckoned that Dr Andreas (one of my mega heroes) had lost his mojo when he began using swear words like ‘low fat’ which never worked for me.

I'll bet Ted and Andreas were watching "incognito". 😁

Another problem that jumped out at me with their system of coming up with the scores is the assumption that our bodies react the same way to a calorie of, say, sucrose, as to a calorie of fiber or protein. So it can't be legitimate to simply count calories and use them in total in the calculation.

Kudos to you gentlemen,for discussing this. What a privilege to have solid reliable sources to enable us to make lifestyle choices that gives us all the best shot at improving our health. Bravo!

I don't know a single vegan that stays satisfied for long

What could be more fun than a diatribe about a diet tribe?

It’s been disappointing to watch the direction that both Dr’s Andreas and Ted have chosen and how they represent themselves and interact with others online. Both of these men were critical in my initial transition to low carb and metabolic healing. Very little respect remains today and at their own doing.

Well, this was a nice presentation to listen to while I searched high and low for my new meat thermometer, which I somehow misplaced. update: I found it in my car, lol

I don’t think these are the same comments from the live KZfaq presentation earlier today. Dr. Eenfeldt and his sidekick are trying to promote some harebrained idea that satiety is measurable and that calories are somehow relevant in relation to satiety. Good luck with that.

Thank you both for this cogent, helpful discussion.

I started with Diet Dr back in 2019. They put me on the LCHF path. I wondered why Dr Shur left.

Great information. Bad advice needs to be called out.

Satiety is the big roadblock to my target weight. Thank you.

Thank you for sharing, Dr. Berry.

Beef is the answer. I do eat bacon, eggs, chicken, fish, etc...but I'm never as satiated as I am when I eat beef. Steak, roast, ground, doesn't matter to my body.

This looks like an arbitrary system devised to be their get rich quick scheme. I’m staying with keto as very low carb and high fat especially animal fat for improved health. Thanks Dr Berry !!!

One of the most measured voices in this space with one of the most strident and direct? Absolutely I will watch!

Yead Ted lost me along with Saladino

Can you ever get an objective measure of things like satiety and hedonism? I'm like Dr. Berry. I'm a recovering carb addict. That pint of Halo Top wouldn't last one sitting.

How is it that any highly processed food that I could not make in my kitchen is higher rated for metabolic health than a whole food product animal or plant?

Seemed to me a while ago that Diet Dr. had somehow sold out.

Just saw a CHERIOS ad in this video!!

I find this all interesting and think you both should do a study on the carnivore diet versus a vegan diet .

3years ago I diagnost with chronic inflammation and developed afib I'm 53 m told will need have hip replacements can i really revers all these illnesses?

Well satiety is how long u feel full for mostly So I’ll agree w/hypothesis *Only fat gives SPC* Protein to some degree Carbs not at all

Won’t catch me subscribing to an app that isn’t free. Plus I get satiety by eating meat. That’s it. The best human diet and no counting calories. Trust the carnivore channels. Best one is zero with Dave.

Thank you both. Much needed .

This is the ingredient list for just a regular chicken sandwich from Chick-Fil-A, taken from their website: *Chicken (boneless, skinless chicken breast with rib meat, enriched bleached flour [with malted barley flour, niacin, iron thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid], fully refined peanut oil [with dimethylpolysiloxane {an anti-foam agent} added], sugar, salt, monosodium glutamate, pasteurized nonfat dry milk, leavening [sodium bicarbonate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate], spices, water, soybean oil, paprika, pasteurized egg), bun (bleached and unbleached enriched flour [wheat flour [malted barley flour, reduced iron, niacin, thiamin mononitrate {Vitamin B1}, riboflavin {Vitamin B2}, folic acid], water, sugar, yeast, soybean oil, vital wheat gluten, salt, cultured wheat flour, vinegar, calcium propionate [preservative], organic acids, monoglycerides, sesame flour, DATEM, soy lecithin, enzymes, wheat flour, calcium carbonate, ascorbic acid [dough conditioner], wheat starch, citric acid, potassium iodate, buttered flavored oil [soybean oil, palm kernel oil, soy lecithin, natural flavor, beta carotene]), tomato, green leaf lettuce, cheese (cheddar cheese [milk, cheese culture, salt, enzymes], milkfat, water, sodium citrate, salt, sodium phosphate, sorbic acid as preservative, oleoresin paprika [color], annatto [color], with sunflower lecithin added for slice separation), pickles (cucumbers, water, vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate [preservative], turmeric extract [color], natural flavor, dill pickle spice, beta carotene [color], garlic emulsion)* YUM! YUM! Bon Appetite, or as my country cousin always says, "Boney Ape-tits"

Well done guys, TY for calling out BS

Thanks for bringing this to my attention...

It’s so disappointing that Andreas has chosen this path. Having said that, the diet doctor website really helped me 6 years ago, and I don’t need to go there much these days, as I am now carnivore, but it was so helpful and I owe them a lot of health gains.

I hated missing this. I’m overwhelmed with everything now. I’m part of the community but I’m not sure how to communicate

Fiber is where I quit

Maybe it's not that their science sucks but the lack of.

Dr. Sher must've seen the writing on the walls. He got out at just the right time.

Currently crushing a 32 pack of 75/25 burger patties from Walmart. Cooked in butter. So much flavor. Grub-a-licious!!!!

Ice cream better than macadamia nuts lol

Has anyone ever questioned what calories are and how the numbers are created in a nutritional context?

Ted Naiman is the man

I can't wait for your proper human diet book, Dr Berry!

Hey Dr.Berry, I hope you can answer this question for me. I have asked it on a few different videos (not yours) with no response yet. Is it safe to do the sardine fast indefinitely? I feel great eating 2 cans a day. I will be having renal auto-transplant surgery in about 3 weeks and am trying to be as healthy as I can for the best outcome. Thanks and thank you for all you do for the carnivore community.

I'd be wanting some sort of guarantee for that price! But the proof of the diet would be in the weight loss and the health improvements - surely by now they have 100s of testimonials from people who have experienced these improvements - they could just publish these.

Empty calorie is a synonym for 250 mg of carbohydrates.

It's sad to see because The Diet Doctor was what led me to this lifestyle which helped me reverse depression and panic disorder, not to mention the weight loss and energy. Such a bummer to see...

This type of "fad diet" will just confuse people about ketogenic diets. Nick is right that it's problematic!

If calories were the defining component of our diet, then 100 calories of chocolate cake would be exactly the same as 100 calories of steak or 100 calories of boiled potatoes and not even a vegan would say that's a fact. 🤷 ❤️🥩❤️🥓❤️🥩❤️

Isn't Marty Kendal the guy who equates hunger with blood sugar?

Yep!

When I go on a 7 day cruise I always feel full.

😂 ice cream is better for your health. A sucker is born every day.

I am diligent to consume information from everyone: Dr. Berry, Layne Norton, Dr. Mike, etc. I am a paying user of the Carbon Diet Coach app. I can attest to the slippery slope of how a metric based diet (IIFYM, measure keto, SPC) can very quickly lead to heavy consumption of packaged foods. Packaged foods are easier to track and easier to plan. I wasn’t surprised to see Ted’s memes shift from pictures of celery and salmon to pictures of branded yogurt and chips. I agree with SPC that protein is non-negotiable and should be consumed beyond the RDA. I agree with Layne that some form of cognitive restraint is necessary for weight changes. I agree with the paleo and adjacent groups that “real food” is superior and may provide some people with success sans CONSCIOUS restraint. I wish more people understood that it is possible for multiple people to have useful information that can be applied to their situation. Thank you.

Beef steak and fish seems to have the highest index.. I find air fried salmon or red snapper in the morning for breakfast very filling and lasting. Easy to do from frozen. I use beef for dinner supplemented with the little chicken or pork

My Mom used to eat Wheatberry bread back in the 60s-70s. Thats all she bought for the house. My science teacher said the nutrition was basically the same as Wonder Bread. My mom didn't believe it. I didn't either but was glad he said it because I didn't like Wheatberry bread. Bottom line, my science teacher was right!!! Way back then. Amazing!!! ❤

I’m never hungry on carnivore but I am a heavy guy and lift weights a lot, I feel like I have to eat to maintain/build muscle, I have to force down food.

The more I watch these informational clips the more confused I get,so being knew to carnivore just 3weeks in, I will just stick to beef,butter for now.🤪🤪🥰🥰

Nick hit the "nails on the head".... when I first heard about this "new dietary concept" - I smelled bollocks, another good reason NOT to depend on counting calories. Use a measuring tape, a mirror & sunlight to reveal the truth.

All I know is I have joint pain every time I've tried to eat at Chick-fil-A. I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't been on a proper human diet. The grilled chicken affects me even worse because of the soy.

Garlic macadamia nuts are very yummy.

Eating more to achieve satiety does not work. I could sit and eat ice cream all day even though Im full. Ice cream is my downfall. There is no such thing as good ice cream unless you make your own cream and egg yolks only. The guy going on and on is disfunctional. What is he talking about. Eat meat and keep you carbs low low low

If it's so simple to fit into a single infographic, what are you actually selling me in the P:E diet program?

I think what it all boils down to is truth?

another quick ? I live in Montreal Quebec CANADA do you have any contacts or suggestion of MD practicing health wellness not doctors pushing pharma?

Scientists and academics got us into these nutritional problems. Do you think they will get us out of them?

Valkyrie. Thor was on the carnivore diet. He just ate His goats when He got hungry.

Well I always thought ted naiman was a non-scientific a-hole, I'm glad you can confirm. Thanks Ken & Nick!

At 58:36, it sounds like Nick would be fine if they shared the general concept as a heuristic and then it grue some over time😂

Well nuts are not good for satiety, you can eat them non stop and not get full

It's all macademic, anyhow.

I saw you at the end wolfie, why did you wait until the end to say that about nick?

A small piece of Lillys chocolate is pretty satiating for my sugar addicted family

Sounds to me like they're trying to associate Nick with Big Nuts. Can't dispute that.

Are eggs inflammatory

What are your thoughts on compounded tirzepatide injections?

Can anyone point me to the links?

It seems a bit naive to believe that they are not subsidized by the processed foods that are arbitrarily given a great satiety score! Any copyrighted name brand or business name used in any "negative" would be sued pronto. So,,,,BFF,just sayin...

Thinking we eat calories is just idiotic.

Will you invite a guest to review project Blueprint?

Hi Dr Ken. Namaste fm ktm nepal. Whenever I take apple cider vinegar I get a terrible sore throat. No cough no cold . Good bowel movements . On a low carb omad. Pls explain.

"Satiety" can't be a one-dimensional thing. Satiety for how long? A heroin overdose might have a high satiety score.

Hello I’m confused what about cortisol all the talk about red meat makes you diabetic because of to much fat help