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Saturnalia - Rome's Awesome Pagan Christmas DOCUMENTARY
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Күн бұрынCelebrate an awesome pagan Christmas with the Roman Saturnalia! The first 100 people to go to www.blinkist.c... are going to get unlimited access for 1 week to try it out. You’ll also get 25% off if you want the full membership.
In this history documentary we cover a very special Roman Holiday, the Saturnalia. It was a hugely popular winter festival which dominated the ancient world and in many ways created the Christmas that we celebrate today!
We begin the episode with a discussion about the origins of Saturnalia as a harvest festival. In these early years it was celebrated whenever the last of the crops was brought with a special thanks being offered to the God of harvest, Saturn. The Romans did so at the temple of Saturn by offering a procession of bulls and hosting a grand feast. Over the years however the traditions would grow by importing Greek customs, pinning the date to December 17th and extending the holiday to a full week!
We then cover the history of Saturnalia at its full glory by recreating the experience. This begins with the traditional parade and feast on the first day after which all work was banned. The following days were filled with endless parties and feasts. These featured all kinds of familiar staples of Christmas like gift giving, hat wearing, and singing. However there were many more, wilder traditions as well. IO SATURNALIA!!!
We finally conclude with the rise of Christianity and the history of Christmas which coopted this popular pagan holiday. Stay tuned for more How They Did It episodes on the history of daily life in the past.
Bibliography and Suggested Reading:
Daily Life in the Roman City by Gregory Aldrete
Popular Culture in Ancient Rome by Jerry Toner
As the Romans Did by Jo-Ann Shelton
Festivals and Ceremonies of the Roman Republic by H. H. Scullard
The Roman Community at Table During the Principate by John Donahue
#Saturnalia
#Rome
#History
@InvictaHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia!!!
@papapok13 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia!
@papapok13 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine though? Two thousand years from now on, new cultures might use Merry Christmas! as a meme!!
@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia!!!
@pacosoentken303 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia and Happy Festag!
@samneibauer4241 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia!
@davtash69 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Antony never could read a room.
@enderw.1724 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@The_Dudester 3 жыл бұрын
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears. I come not to praise Caeser but to bury him......"
@sammgz0012 3 жыл бұрын
Because he was too drunk to care
@ryanrhodes5819 3 жыл бұрын
Easy J-Lo. Is ARod any better
@Toto-95 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the crown incident was kind of orchestrated by cesar to weigh if people would be in or out of crowning him. And if not "silly Marc Antony Lol of course i will refuse !" => hourra It's a win either way cause it's said Marc Antony " found the crown" yeah sure i find them on the floor everyday
@davidchase6898 3 жыл бұрын
The more adult aspects of Saturnalia were apparently taken up by New Years Eve.
@diegonatan6301 Жыл бұрын
Well, and the NC-17 aspects weres taken by Carnival.
@TimL1980 Жыл бұрын
... any prostitutes provided for new years in your local!?😂
@hopelesslydull7588 Жыл бұрын
@@diegonatan6301 The cultural phenomenon of The Carnival, or Topsy Turvy, is something that occurred in a lot of cultures. It's a very fascinating sociological occurrence.
@WhyDidntIInventYT 8 ай бұрын
I always thought of New Years as drunk xmas tbh
@thomasleonardis711 7 ай бұрын
Xmas is for the kids. New years is for the adults. Anyone with kids knows it.
@Vates104 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and well researched. Seneca writes, “Saturnalia used to be a week, now it’s an entire month.” Sound familiar?
@briangronberg6507 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Oh that’s priceless. I wonder what other historical parallels we could find: “Keep the Saturn in Saturnalia.” “Christianity and its cancel culture want to take away Saturnalia from usz
@Musick79 2 жыл бұрын
Saturnalia has as much in common with Christmas as Hanukkah. Hanukkah probably is closer being called the Festival of Lights, giving small gifts as candles, and books and small gambling games (pig knuckles like dice) trees were in the temple but not decorated. Homes had greenery in the home as I mentioned above. The only decorating of trees were the poor bare deciduous trees. It was never celebrated on the 25th. It usually was the weeks of the solstice. The Christmas tree came in before Luther in Germany. Christians did a passion play based on paradise lost- the only tree available in December was a evergreen and apples were placed on it, to set up a mock tree of life. Also, Donatists who had been Christians in Carthage were keeping 12/25. They moved to Italy and were keeping it before Elgalabus and Aurelian- who wanted Sol Invictus games moved (from October) to 12/25 specifically to annoy those Christian’s. This is documented research from the Vatican, on the reasons they went with 12/25. There is other documentation backing this up. The reason the Donatists celebrated 12/25 is because early Jewish believers had a tradition of holy men/prophets died on the date they were conceived. Christ was believed to have died 3/25, making his birth 12/25. Personally I believe it was 09/11/0003 when the constellation of Revelation 21 occurred per computer programs. It also is prophetic in relation with the fall feasts. The Spring feasts were fulfilled on those dates, so it seems the fall ones were fulfilled on those Holy days , and will be again. I enjoyed the history and cartoons! I spent a lot of time reading books too, from universities. Many cultures put greenery in the home during winter. It gets stinky when everyone spends more time inside. Evergreens are known to really freshen and cheer folks up.
@madwalka6402 2 жыл бұрын
Black history month was a week but then became a month. Abraham Lincoln birthday is February and he freeed the…
@linky8899 Жыл бұрын
If it was one great big piss up, then we (the English) do it 365 days a year now!
@miovicdina7706 Жыл бұрын
@@Musick79What a great comment, thank you for all this information, I'm going to look it up myself now. Yeah, I definitely recognized Hanukkah in the description of Saturnalia, and your comment confirmed my thoughts.
@maxnetirtimon4121 3 жыл бұрын
ancient Persian had a somewhat similar thing called "Chelleh" in Zoroastrian tradition the longest and darkest night of the year was a particularly inauspicious day, and the practices of what is now known as "Shab-e Chelleh" were originally customs intended to protect people from evil during that long night.
@simoneronconi2204 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's a coincidence but, just as the ancient romans wrapped saturn in wool and than unwrap it to simbolize his rebirth, in rome today it's tradition to do the same with a small statuine of christ. We prepare the crib (presepe in italian) the 8th of december and we wrap christ in whatever we have, and we unwrap it the 25th for christmas. It probably is just a coincidence, but it would be very cool if it was a tradition passed down from ancient times
@patronofdragons 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt that it's a coincidence. Christianity was good at adapting and absorbing traditions in order to make converting cultures easier.
@PKyoshi 3 жыл бұрын
No way thats coincidence.
@nightrunner3701 3 жыл бұрын
@@patronofdragons which... Should not have happened.
@nightrunner3701 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Paganisum in catholic church.
@nightrunner3701 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliasartista2195 human experimentation, utter depravity in upper classes, herd culling, using advanced tech to control the populace... In short citizen, a bright and hopeful future for mankind. 😀👍😀👍😀👍
@WorgenGrrl 3 жыл бұрын
I can see why Seneca wanted a more subdued Holiday. The man was a Stoic after all.
@evershumor1302 3 жыл бұрын
He would probably like our version more. We took his advise on the diner.
@incanusolorin2607 3 жыл бұрын
@@evershumor1302 Maybe you did
@Warsie 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember stoicism in ancient Rome was more "you can't deal with the vagaries of life shit happens deal with it as best as you can" not "suppress emotions"
@connorgolden4 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Caesar was still crucifying Pirates.
@gwynedd4023 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@truenorthaffirmations7049 3 жыл бұрын
It happens
@rembrandtshadows 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, but even he had to stop for Saturnalia . . .
@nvmtt 3 жыл бұрын
Caesar: *takes the throne. No one: Caesar: *takes the crown of saturnalia. *Everyone disliked that.
@hebl47 3 жыл бұрын
You can mess with their country, but you do not mess with their parties!
@marsultor6131 3 жыл бұрын
8:52 only True Roman bread for true romans! - this advertising was sponsored by the Capitoline Guild of Millers.
@SlayerRiley 3 жыл бұрын
That town crier made Rome Rome in the series for me :D
@marsultor6131 3 жыл бұрын
@@SlayerRiley loved these little sequences with him
@jacquesmesrine3244 3 жыл бұрын
Hear hear! He has spoken!
@filippoferri1193 6 ай бұрын
Prostitutes and mimics will not be tollerated
@Huy-G-Le 3 жыл бұрын
Christmas: Regular holiday night. Saturnalia: University Graduation Night.
@trikitrikitriki 3 жыл бұрын
I would describe it more as Spring Break
@Sihengli 3 жыл бұрын
Of note, Roman Saturn though influenced by hellenism, was a Roman God, not a Greek one. He is identified with cronus, not a copy of cronus.
@andreascovano7742 3 жыл бұрын
THIS. People legit believe greeks and romans were the same. As an italian, i heavily disagree.
@histguy101 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreascovano7742 They kind of have shared origins, and the Patricians claimed to be descended from Greeks, and believed their language evolved from Greek.
@andreascovano7742 3 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 Yeah, it's because attaching yourself to the east was a traditional trope to gain legitimacy and myth. It was a common trope. The etruscans were probably the most natives of the people in the peninsula even predating the Indo europeans. But they still claimed descent from the lydians. They do not have shared origins. The geography is completely different, the language is completely different, the history is completely different. The greeks considered the Epirotes Barbarians. The romans probably were uknown tribes to them.
@kyarden7971 3 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 Patricians claimed descend either from the Trojans or from gods of the Roman Pantheon. For examples, both the Julii and the Claudii claimed descend from Venus through Aeneas. This is one of the reasons why Octavian commissioned Virgil to write “Aeneid”. I have yet to see a Roman patrician family of Italic origin to claim Greek one.
@MrZekinhaluiz 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreascovano7742 modern italians are just german...
@magnvss 3 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic that the whole video keeps calling it the “pagan Christmas” while, in fact, Christmas is the “Christian Saturnalia”.
@hagosyilma2729 3 жыл бұрын
no
@Bagginsess 3 жыл бұрын
No that's yule tide. Saturnalia was the time of sin and reverally.
@Dimitri88888888 3 жыл бұрын
@@hagosyilma2729 YES
@coreybrowning9659 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitri88888888 no
@faraoofegypt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bagginsess Ah no actually it was stolen from the egyptians ...
@Somewhat-Evil 3 жыл бұрын
Some doubt the Romans adopted the mid-winter celebration from the Greeks, rather they shared the same ancient root from the Proto Indo-European or Aryan migration period. Yule in the Germanic offshoot, Saturnalia in Rome, Haloa in Greece, and Lohri in northern India.
@cyberpotato63 3 жыл бұрын
It's a complex situation. While there does seem to be an Indo-European substrate of similar gods and religious practices, there is also fairly continuous trading contact between Greek and Latin cultures from an early date. Extensive trade contact goes all the way back to the Greek Archaic period in the 8th and 7th centuries BC when Greek traders, raiders, and colonists came to the Italian peninsula. The Etruscans and Latins adapted the Greek alphabet not long after the Greeks had borrowed and transformed it from the Phoenician alphabet. There was even evidence of earlier trading contact between the late bronze age Helene civilization of the Aegean and the cultures of the Italian peninsula.
@SomasAcademy 3 жыл бұрын
Small note, "Proto Indo-European" and "Aryan" should not be used as synonyms. The Aryans were/are one specific branch of the Indo-European family, one of the handful of Asian branches. Because Aryan texts were at one point the oldest known examples of an Indo-European language, "Aryan" was treated as a collective term for a while, but this usage is no longer considered accurate (and additionally has some unfortunate baggage tied to it, with the whole "Aryan master race" idea adopted by White Supremacists).
@overlord5068 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy Aryan = Germanic Aryan = 100% germanic D-N-A and Nordic face structure
@overlord5068 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy "Indo European" is fantasy. Get a brain
@SomasAcademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@overlord5068 You say after declaring your belief in the literal fantasies of braindead imperialists from a century ago.
@user-gg3nm4xm6r 3 жыл бұрын
Winter Festivals were universal, but so were the indoeuropean Gods. Saturn was not really taken from the Greeks as much as 'recognised' as their own corresponding ancestral deity. There seems to be a basic set of indoeuropean deities common to all indoeuropean cultures, probably derived from the same original mythical explanation of the world.
@MrChileno13 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@Jiggleton 8 күн бұрын
@@MrChileno13jackass
@hasmoneanhistorian 3 жыл бұрын
People are always saying happy Holidays nowadays. Just say saturnalia for Jupiter's sake. #waronsaturnalia
@davidkelly4210 3 жыл бұрын
*Saturn's sake.
@thhseeking 3 жыл бұрын
By Toutatis and Belenos I agree!
@tracefleemangarcia8816 3 жыл бұрын
@alex coolt There's nothing wrong with being a Jew-loving pagan
@hasmoneanhistorian 3 жыл бұрын
@Xiuh Dude, I was making a sarcastic joke. Do you even know what jokes are?
@davidblair9877 3 жыл бұрын
@alex coolt as a Jew-friendly agnostic, I take offense to this. #HappyHanukkah #IoSatvrnalia #HappyChristmas
@danielduvernay3207 3 жыл бұрын
My time machine is almost ready, who wants to come with me?
@thhseeking 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it navigates better than the TARDIS :P Or you could end up in the middle of the Spanish Inquisition :P Bet you didn't expect that :D
@monicawallace7771 3 жыл бұрын
I do, I do!!! Lmk when you are ready cuz I definitely want to go!! I'm in Kennewick, Washington State!!
@jr3753 3 жыл бұрын
I got donuts 🍩
@diemenschen8339 3 жыл бұрын
On Nero reign please.
@Samuraid77 3 жыл бұрын
@@thhseeking no one ever expects the Spanish inquisition.
@papapok13 3 жыл бұрын
IIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOO SATURNALIAAAAAAAA!!!!!
@gregoriotauro4469 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm trying to read.
@johnstajduhar9617 3 жыл бұрын
Things like learning that the Romans did Secret Santa are why I like this channel
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
Our family does Secret Santa for extended family, otherwise too expensive.
@carolynlyfordsullivan1377 Жыл бұрын
The Romans did not do secret Santa. Santa is Saint Nicolas. A Catholic priest that gave money to the poor .
@zawwin1846 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we had access to a time machine. Totally would party with the Romans.
@jrodriguez1374 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, im not sure i'd be able to keep up with their partying, ha
@theespartano7203 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrodriguez1374 I’ll pass out after an hour of nonstop drinking.
@arminiusofgermania 3 жыл бұрын
Getting down n' gnasty with the germanic tribes.
@Pitbull00000 3 жыл бұрын
@@theespartano7203 ur weak then , because they drunk only wine xd
@jrodriguez1374 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pitbull00000 sounds like you havent tried hard enough. I suggest a Lambrusco. Its delicious, red, and it'll creep up until it hits you like a shovel. Io Saturnalia, stranger!
@Calatriste54 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh.. the best time to attack Rome..
@justevil100 3 жыл бұрын
True. Free prostitutes would really distract the soliders
@thhseeking 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the best time to attack Australia is on Melbourne Cup day XD
@Hentaicho 3 жыл бұрын
Attacking during the biggest celebration for one of the biggest Gods would almost certainly be a big no no, considering how superstitious the ancient world was.
@user-cc8nc5iu1s 3 жыл бұрын
GERMANIA APPROVES.
@TheAngelobarker 3 жыл бұрын
Lol sure if you REALLY wanna piss off rome. Rome pissed off was terrifying. Straight up lose a quarter of their population in a battle and then demand carthage surrender.
@lordblenkinsopp1537 3 жыл бұрын
I just celebrated this with my Latin class on Monday, the actual Solstice. Io Saturnalia!
@aenorist2431 3 жыл бұрын
*Nero enters the chat* How many free hookers did you have though?
@LaPtaVerdad 3 жыл бұрын
@@aenorist2431 JJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA i died xD
@TempleofBrendaSong 3 жыл бұрын
IO SATVRNALIA
@MilitaryHistory1 3 жыл бұрын
IO SATURNALIA !!
@MilitaryHistory1 3 жыл бұрын
@@aenorist2431 commodus's reply: a few hundred, and with me in the arena of corse.
@Batman_the_bad_man 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the so called "Karneval" in Cologne, Germany. During several days, people wear silly costumes, party, dance and drink on the streets. There is also a "Dreigestirn", a festival triumvirate consisting of people filling three roles, the peasent, the maiden (usually a guy dressed like a woman) and the king that visit some of the festivities. Your description of Saturnalia heavily reminded me of that.
@cynicisminc 3 жыл бұрын
The crown offer to Caesar was at Lupercalia, not Saturnalia.
@mayorgeneralramirez1997 3 жыл бұрын
What is Lupercalia?
@cynicisminc 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 it's a fertility festival held in February
@inquisitorwalmarius6650 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 in the name of the warmaster that is, so a heretical holiday
@SavingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 It was a traditional festival which may have dated back to Romulus and Remus. Two priests, one from the Quintilian family and one from the Fabii were chosen. Certain animals would be sacrificed in a cave beneath the Palatine, and the skins of the animals would be cut into thongs. After smearing the priests with the animal blood, the priests, either naked or in loin cloths had to run three laps anticlockwise around the Forum. They would whip passers-by with the thongs, which were called Februa, and it was believed that women lashed with the thongs would be fertile for the year. So many women tried to place themselves in the paths of the running priests. In 44 BC, Julius Caesar added a 3rd house to the college of Lupercalia, the Julian family, and Mark Antony was the first to represent the Julians in the run - that was the same year he offered Caesar the crown three times 👑. This festival was held in February, almost exactly a month before Caesar’s assassination
@mayorgeneralramirez1997 3 жыл бұрын
@@SavingHistory Thank you! Thourouhgly iluminating!
@casparvoncampenhausen5249 3 жыл бұрын
Romans were the definition of work hard, party hard
@michaelkatz715 Жыл бұрын
I really loved this ! Most excellent. Very well done & informative.
@silla.1902 3 жыл бұрын
The city of Rome should bring back this festivity.
@okulusanomali9716 3 жыл бұрын
here you go: Italy formally recognises Roman polytheist organisation wildhunt.org/2020/12/italy-formally-recognizes-religio-romana-organization.html
@cegesh1459 3 жыл бұрын
@@okulusanomali9716 The holiday. A week party.
@antinoofromgreece6560 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. The city should bring back this amazing festival and Sol Invictus too.
@silla.1902 3 жыл бұрын
@@antinoofromgreece6560 They should! Obviously, without its original religious meaning, but for folkloric purposes.
@jamesholcombe435 3 жыл бұрын
It is its called christmas
@rzrx1337 3 жыл бұрын
The ancients knew how to party, I would celebrate holidays if this were still a thing.
@danielmaurer1572 3 жыл бұрын
IT'S A TRAP!!
@kenmicheal4916 3 жыл бұрын
Still is if you make it,family holidays are for losers..
@angela_merkeI 3 жыл бұрын
@alex coolt Just that hedonism doesn't mean what you think it does...
@ehsn 3 жыл бұрын
In some parts of Europe (at the very least in Spain and Italy) I'd say that it just got split between Christmas and the Carnivals, the weeks long partying part are on the latter one.
@angela_merkeI 3 жыл бұрын
@alex coolt Open Wikipedia for a start.
@NicCageCDXX 3 жыл бұрын
if only Emperor Julian had just put his armor on, we might have still had this
@Floral_Green 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna make me tear up. He’ll always be missed.
@Shervin86 3 жыл бұрын
In Iran (or other Persian driven cultures) we celebrate the Winter Solstice as the longest night of the year Yalda Night (shab'e Yalda / شب یلدا) with a feast from sunset till sunrise... fruits, mainly pomegranates, nuts, drinks (wine mostly, or grape juice for the kiddies), variety of stews, tea (for the sunrise or those who don't drink), music and LOTS of dancing and laughs. Good times!
@Whysoserious648 2 жыл бұрын
You guys celebrate it now??
@Shervin86 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whysoserious648 yes every year.
@Whysoserious648 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shervin86 wow thats really cool ! also thanks for replying after a year lol
@jimmeltonbradley1497 Жыл бұрын
Here in the England there was, between the departure of the Romans and the arrival of Christmas, Yuletide. We still have a cake called the Yule Log today, and the festival's celebration ran in parallel with Christmas celebrations for many centuries. I'm a Saturnalia man myself.
@Wotsitorlabart Жыл бұрын
Not correct. There is very little evidence for a 'Yule' festival either in England or the Scandinavian countries. The word 'Yule' was the Danish colloquial word for the festival of the Nativity and was introduced into England during their eleventh century occupation of the country. It was taken up by the native English and later the Scots until 'Christmas' eventually supplanted it. But the word Yule continued to be used as a dialect word for Christmas in the northern counties and in Scotland. Yule logs, yule candles, yule babies etc are products of this dialect word during the Christian era.
@todradmaker4297 Жыл бұрын
@@Wotsitorlabart The "Yule log" was an actual log that they would burn each night of the 12 day festival marking the end of the year. This was an ancient Germanic custom that predates Christmas in that region.
@Wotsitorlabart Жыл бұрын
@@todradmaker4297 Yet another 'Yuletide' myth. First recorded in Britain in by Robert Herrick in the 1620's/30's in Devon - and he called it a 'Christmas log'. Also known as 'Christmas Brand', 'Christmas Block', 'The Christmas Old Wife'. 'The Festival Block'. Earliest reference anywhere is from Germany in 1184 and appears to have spread from there. Strong suggestion that it came to Britain via Flanders (with its strong trading links) where it was very popular. So, as usual, nothing to do with pagans nor is it pre-Christian.
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
I made on Saturday. But it turned out more like a Yule Plank...
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
@@Wotsitorlabart I would think anything firey and warm would be part of a dark winter celebration...
@joaofranciscobento00 3 жыл бұрын
Saturnalia= The hangover movie party in the daylight.
@daloin87061 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@yaruqadishi8326 3 жыл бұрын
False
@julianhermanubis6800 3 жыл бұрын
It's very funny to think of a Stoic like Seneca trying to work with drunken revelry going on loudly all around them and maybe even hookers getting handed out to random recipients.
@petercumpson6867 2 жыл бұрын
Seneca prided himself on his ability to work in the midst of noise. He rented rooms above a bath house. He was a bit of a prig.
@lt2339 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the human sacrifice, google it.
@davidthomerson751 Жыл бұрын
The Vikings had Yule in the North. This is where we get then 8 reindeer from. Odin went on a hunt with his 8 legged horse. The Yule log was burned for Thor. We get holly and Mistletoe from the Druids.
@MrChileno13 Жыл бұрын
👍
@charlesq7866 Жыл бұрын
Maaaaaaaaan, this sounds like so much fun. I was envious during the whole video, just thinking "I want to go party with the Romans now." It all sounds so great! 🥳
@bumblebeeeoptimus 3 жыл бұрын
"Winter celebrations are popular around the world with Christmas being the dominant" People who live in southern hemisphere: "Am I a joke to you?"
@MrJm323 2 жыл бұрын
So, do Australians, South Africans, and Argentines, etc. have a holiday to mark the midwinter? A Yule Austral ??
@bumblebeeeoptimus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJm323 I don't know. I'm from Brazil
@MrChileno13 Жыл бұрын
In the southern hemisphere we celebrate christmas.
@bumblebeeeoptimus Жыл бұрын
@@MrChileno13 but It's celebrated in summer, not in winter, so It's not a winter celebration. I,m aftaid you didn't get my comment..
@AnthroTsuneon 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhey, Tasting History recently covered it with a recipe from the holiday. At this point it might be fun to have some sort of crossover/shared history telling on an event where food might be involved, though that's just me enjoying both channels. Invicta covers the whole with more detail and Tasting History likes to share more specific little events/moments with these things
@deirdregibbons5609 3 жыл бұрын
I think that would be an excellent idea.
@AnthroTsuneon 3 жыл бұрын
@@deirdregibbons5609 Actually, doing an episode on what armies eat and all that like for the Roman army one might go great with Tasting History
@deirdregibbons5609 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthroTsuneon I was thinking exactly the same thing! I know Invicta did an episode on what Roman armies ate and cooked while on campaign, but there are definitely other aspects to explore. For example: what armies ate at the forts and also how the armies influenced the cuisine in their colonies... and vice versa. I could see a lovely dialogue between Invicta and Max as they walk through recipe a and discuss the history behind it. Also, there are possibilities beyond Rome, as Invicta has been exploring the Phoenicians, Aztecs and Old Norse. Plus they've been looking at famous military bands through history whose food traditions could be discussed.
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
Love Tasting History!
@suspendednovember 3 жыл бұрын
In my little town (actually a huge village rather than a real town) we still have a Roman pagan festivity mixed with a Christian background, in the usual syncretism of alot of regions around Europe. It takes place in March and it's supposed to drive away the spirits and ghosts of winter, casually it occurs few days after the assassination of Julius Caesar, precisely on the 19th of March. Red wine, tall pyres of burning woods all night long, different dancers and folk music for every single pyre and typical mountain rural food. Everything starts with the arson of huge grotesque puppets. Anyway my "hometown" is located south of Rome, among the mountains and last but not least, great informative video!
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
I see. Well I will leave some links here in case to clear misconception myth about Christmas this video address: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@craigds3745 8 ай бұрын
It sounds a lot like Fallas in Valencia, Spain, which also ends on the 19th.
@michamalinowski8015 3 жыл бұрын
Love the artwork and animations! Some high quality stuff.
@loganlozada2185 3 жыл бұрын
shouting out from the philippines. thank for your presentation. i always incorporate most of your topic in my class discussions. i wish you would feature some of the roman holidays that you've mentioned in this presentation like lufercalia. Godbless and your loved ones this holidays and all incoming holidays! Merry Christmas!
@g3heathen209 3 жыл бұрын
The red cap, I wonder if it is the inspiration for the red cap worn by French revolutionaries. Being a cap of liberty so to speak where the slave becomes the master.
@MazeMe 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct
@charles1964 3 жыл бұрын
@G3 Heathen Yes,it's called The Phrygian Cap. The Romans called it The Pileus....
@Venezolano410 3 жыл бұрын
@@charles1964 The Phrygian cap isn't of Roman origin. It's from the ancient city-state of Phrygia was located in what is now modern day Turkey. I don't think his animation accurately depicts the cap the Romans actually wore.
@charles1964 3 жыл бұрын
@@Venezolano410 Correct,it was a style worn in Anatolia. The Romans wore the Pileus but there were symbolic of Libertas,as depicted on the famous Brutus "Eid March" coins.
@inquisitorwalmarius6650 3 жыл бұрын
@@livefreefungi378 ishtar? astarte? i only hit warhammer things when i search those 2
@menaseven9093 3 жыл бұрын
Roman Saturnalia was a combination of the Christmas holiday of December and the carnival holiday of February. I like the rich and poor changing roles of Saturnalia and the fool king.
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
You maybe want to watch this and reconsider that view: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@marktwaine9344 8 ай бұрын
we already have the king part ....
@MsStepje 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, only one remark: Marcus Antonius didn't give the 'crown' or diadem to Caesar during Saturnalia. He gave it during Lupercalia, another festival which took place in February each year. (which would also be a great topic to make a video on!)
@hi23nutzer21 Жыл бұрын
As a German I can say that this sounds really like Karneval. Glad that we kept some parts of it😊
@federicoboi9362 7 ай бұрын
Barbar!
@jimyost2585 Жыл бұрын
The following is my reply to a KZfaq video titled "The Truth About Christmas - The Start of the Tribulation." The video was posted on KZfaq on Sunday December 11, 2022. Here's my reply: The Canaanites were celebrating the winter solstice ritual in honor of Baal 5000 years ago. In each household they had a tree (phallus symbol), a wreath (vagina symbol), and they exchanged gifts. Many centuries later the ancient Romans were celebrating the ritual in honor of Saturn and doing it the same way (tree, wreaths, gifts). Their name for the ritual was 'Saturnalia.' In around 300 A.D. the Catholic Church priestclass renamed the ritual 'Christmas.' They did it as an evangelistic ploy to attract people away from Saturn worship. The majority of the Roman people were Saturn worshipers. The temple of Saturn was the biggest building in ancient Rome. The temple priests were very wealthy and the Catholic priestclass wanted to get in on the cash cow. The spirit behind Christmas is Saturn (Old Testament Baal). The Apostle John called him 'The Spirit of Antichrist" (counterfeit Christ who seeks to mimic the Holy Spirit). He is the principality of idolatry, plus he is the spirit of top-down-control (seeks to manifest through men-at-the-top, e.g. leaders of nations, governments, religions, corporations, military, academia, medicine, media, finance, etc.). The ancient Babylonians and Assyrians called him Bel. The ancient Greeks called him Cronos. The ancient Hindus called him Indra. Same spirit going by different names in different cultures and in different time periods. It was very important to him to implement the winter solstice ritual as he understood that when a person celebrates (honors) the ritual it gives him automatic rights of access to their human spirit (conscience, intuition, and the ability to commune with the Holy Spirit) and to have ongoing influence on their spiritual life (the kingdom of darkness is all about control). Jesus was born on September 11, 3 B.C. by the Julian Calendar. Bethlehem is 2500 ft. above sea level so that in December there would've been no grass for the sheep to eat (see Luke 2:8-20 in the King James Version). Jesus had nothing to do with Christmas (never did and never will). You can verify this information online, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to find information that goes against the system narrative (propaganda/brainwash).
@pysq8 Жыл бұрын
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@MrPjw5 Жыл бұрын
Sources? Not saying you’re wrong, but the burden of proof lies on people who make the claims.
@jimyost2585 Жыл бұрын
@@MrPjw5 ~ Actually, if you look at the history of the ritual, the proof is there, and has been for 3500 years. In other words, the thing speaks for itself.
@NurseJoyTV Жыл бұрын
my most favorite comment! thank you for sharing the truth.
@InVinoVeratas 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, its really nice that the Romans thought of their rural communities, most modern societies don’t think about the rural communities, and leave them to the wayside.
@erynn9968 Жыл бұрын
Well rural communities supported their whole lives back then. While today, food and clothes grow in supermarkets.
@mitchelldubeau7006 3 жыл бұрын
10/10 I would love to bring back these wild pagan parties
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
Christian to the 25, then Saturnalia to New years!
@danesovic7585 2 жыл бұрын
We need Saturnalia revived and the Temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus rebuilt!
@wardafournello 7 ай бұрын
Kronia,the celebration was held in ancient Greece in honor of Titan Kronos and Titaness Rhea. it took place on the night of the 12th day of Hecatombaion,(at the beginning of summer). On the day of the feast the slaves had a holiday, they could sit at the same table with their masters and in general they had more freedom, in memory of the Golden Age of the human race, when there was no slavery and heavy work. From the adoption of the celebration by the Romans as Saturnalia, in honor of the Roman Saturn ,Kronia became a noisy festival and days of debauchery.
@Limozo 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Saturnalia everyone!
@gwynedd4023 3 жыл бұрын
Your first
@Limozo 3 жыл бұрын
@@gwynedd4023 true, but felt no need to point that out 🤪
@TheFrank19023 3 жыл бұрын
More of a Festivus guy, just saying
@TempleofBrendaSong 3 жыл бұрын
Io SATVRNALIA
@gups4963 3 жыл бұрын
Given Cronus's eating habits I'd want him happy as well
@Mel1o2 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a Latin and Greek teacher in Spain. I just discovered your videos and I love them. Is there any possibility of getting the subtitles in Spanish? Great job! Thanks a lot! :)
@aleksapetrovic6519 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that time when Iznogud tried to become Caliph on a day when all roles are shifted so that slave is a master and master is a slave.
@Get_FREE_ROBUX_655 3 жыл бұрын
Catholic and Islamic = similar
@aleksapetrovic6519 3 жыл бұрын
@@Get_FREE_ROBUX_655 ?
@KTChamberlain 3 жыл бұрын
Invicta: I'll do a video covering Saturnalia. Historia Civilis: "Been there, done that." lol
@caripheosmusicselection8433 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the most important part was left out, the fact that christianity as nothing to do with christmas, that Constantine only fused the two holidays to apease the people while he was (alongside so many others at the nicean council) in fact molding the catholic christmas on top of Saturnalia in order to implement catolic celebrations, without enfuriating the people and risking a rebellion during the religious transition. Other than that, really cool!
@barbiebeck9531 2 жыл бұрын
At the University of Louisville world history class I learned that Constantine was an evil invader who wanted to take over the world much like Hitler, etc. and he decided that the only way to rule the world was to create & force with the sword, a one world religion calling it a universal religion (look up the meaning of Catholicism )it says “universal faith” so he invented Catholicism and gave the Romans a choice to pick out the name of the new god that was to be the head of this world religion. the Romans had 50 gods to choose from and in 2 years time allotment, they still couldn’t decide, so they narrowed it down to two of their gods, Zeus and Krishna. so they came up with the name Jesus Christ. Jesus came from Greek Iesus which in Greek means Hail Zeus . Many names in the Greek culture end in us, sus, & sous as a form of honor to Zeus. Krishna is the other god that they chose and in Greek he is called Christos, which in English is Christ. The name “Jesus” translated to Hebrew means “horse”, but the Hebrew name of the Messiah who was persecuted & hung on a cross by the Pharisees & Romans, is in modern Hebrew block style lettering, Yehoshua -meaning Yehovah saves / salvation. (nickname-Yeshua). English it is Joshua which means YHWH saves. This is why in the New Testament where Steven was about to be stoned to death, & speaking about “Joshua”- the person who delivered the Hebrews to the promised land, it was accidentally translated as “Jesus” . Both deliver the people to the promised kingdom. But there is new evidence discovered in the older translation of Hebrew, that Messiah’s name was actually Yahawashi, (ending is the eye sound). but the invasions on the Hebrews kept forcing them to change their lettering system. Strong evidence reveals Originally there were no vowels & each letter simply said its name for its sound. Constantine & Catholic leaders (took & added from & to the Word) & the leaders of the manmade religion of Judaism (added to the WORD) forbade the pronouncing of The True Names of Yah. HalleluYah means praise to Yah, so we have the 1st part of His name preserved. Scribes of Judaism added vowels to the consonants, which is suspect to changing the language & especially the True names of Yah. Messiahs name has Father’s name in it. He represents The Almighty as His Son & took the people away from manmade religion, back to the ancient way. Matthew 4:4 (man is to obey ALL of The Word) & Matthew5:17-20 (Law of Yah observance explained) He hates manmade religious laws that teach us to ignore Father’s Instructions for living. Messiah warned of the wolves in sheep skins who continue to teach the falling away of the Great - -ore of 7 hills who wears purple & red & kills & drinks blood of the saints. I love searching the Scriptures via the Hebrew & some Greek using a Strongs exhaustive concordance & ancient historical writings! Treasure of info & KZfaq has some people doing the same as I. “Seek me & you shall find me!” Seek means search & research in Hebrew. He reveals His Truth not through evil sources ever!! Always consider the spirituality of the source. He is Holy & all powerful- it’s not typically His Way to reveal His secrets. Also interesting that the original Hebrew only had consonants. Why would there be a big deal in writing in the vowels if they existed. Also Matthew 5:17-20 Messiah mentioned not even a “Jot” or a “Tittle” will be voided from The Fathers Law until Heaven & Earth pass away. So these being only consonant values, & the vowel points of Hebrew are much much smaller, so why didn’t He mention those instead? He often spoke so the evil ones couldn’t understand, so I’m looking deeper into this matter. In Jeremiah Yah says stop hiding my name, & stop calling me the names of pagan false gods & don’t even let their names pass over your lips!! He also says in Jeremiah 10:3 not to cut a tree fasten it & hang gold & silver on it. He calls this heathen traditions - false god worship activities. He gave us holidays in the Bible. No Jew no Gentile- one new man in Messiah. No sun god worship, keep Yah’s Sabbath- the 7th day on His calendar!! Come out of her my people!! Messiah about the great -ore in Revelation- she has many daughters! Catholicism gave birth to pagan Christianity. Look behind the Constantine invasion to find truth. It’s in the back of the Scriptures too. 💝🙏📖🕊🕎✝️🕎🌈🙌👑🛡🗡🏆🥖🍷🌈
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
You maybe want to watch this and reconsider that view about Christmas: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@Joyride37 3 жыл бұрын
Religion for Breakfast has a good coinciding video about Saturnalia, and how it actually may have a served as a way to reinforce the social hierarchy under the guise of doing the opposite. Which was a super interesting take.
@jonwarland272 3 жыл бұрын
Invicta, you really bring history down to earth and make it relatable. Saturnalia looks like fun. Imagine if our billionaires put on a free feast for the whole city nowdays. It would be crazy.
@ironwolf2244 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Nice to see some Greco-Roman Pagan traditions. Could you do a video on Jöl?
@robby7997 3 жыл бұрын
in the netherlands we still have this exact feast (only in the souther province which was the only part controlled by rome). from things like the king, 7 day feasting, role reversal and dressing up
@AlexanderMarchesaine 3 жыл бұрын
I still celebrate Saturnalia
@chizel6719 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😳, now the lyrics to the song 12 Days of Christmas makes sense. Thanks for the info bud. Well done ✅
@AlphaOmegaGreece 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always congratulations.Greetings from ancient Hellas!!
@marloyorkrodriguez9975 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of wanted to also see this on HBO’s Rome
@lemaro1977 3 жыл бұрын
15:30 I really like the art. The girls are so cute!
@jacobglover3868 Жыл бұрын
as a recent revert to Islam I personally don't celebrate Christmas but I will not stop my wife and children by not celebrating it , I do buy gifts for my children and my wife I have explained to my wife what the view points about celebrating Christmas and why we should take a hard look at what the origin of it is. may Allah make it easy for us to come to the understanding of what Christmas is all about.
@alienvampirebusterswhoyoug8257 Жыл бұрын
You don’t need any validation for any religious belief do what you want is the law of nature
@King-LXVI 8 ай бұрын
Ameen. Brother you need to give her dawah in a polite and courteous way and bring her to the fold of Islam so that she may enter Jannah. May Allah guide your family to the truth.
@your_name_here2158 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... So this is a great resounding expose on why faithful christians shouldn't celebrate on the 25th. Christ wasn't born then, but Saturn garners worship on this day of paganism
@jadanielnegrete 3 жыл бұрын
2:05 in Spanish we call a holiday “día feriado” which comes from that phrase
@cernunnos_lives 2 жыл бұрын
I hope our pagan past is remembered and many of the old customs don't die out.
@dwaynewilliams7891 Жыл бұрын
You mean how people were raped,naked,and intoxicated all over the streets?? Yeah okay
@josephwarra5043 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Festivus!
@somedandy7694 3 жыл бұрын
9:55 - love the Tarantella playing there. Dance! Dance like a spider bit you!
@randiD123 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely seeing the pagan connection that is Christmas more and more every year. In fact, this year I wished people Merry Pagan Holiday. I'm just glad it's over.
@meeksde 2 жыл бұрын
Bet you still took the day off without a fight though.
@MrChileno13 Жыл бұрын
The party's soul...
@breka3482 10 ай бұрын
Christmas isn’t pagan
@King-LXVI 8 ай бұрын
@@breka3482You must be deluded or living in serious denial to think Christmas isn’t pagan. Much of Christianity is based on paganism too, just take the concept of the Trinity…
@sameerthakur720 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Christmas is the (totally laaame) Christian version of Saturnalia. Saturnalia came first.
@akostarkanyi825 3 жыл бұрын
Calling a festival of a religion (Roman religion) the equivalent of a festival of another religion (Christianity) is correct if there are many similarities. This is not the case here. Saturnalia rather shows some cultural similarity to Carnevals in the Christian world, or to New Year's Eve parties, to some extent (as the film correctly pointed out). In its cultural or religious character Saturnalia had nothing to do with the Christmas feasts of the later Christian era - so the title of this video is misleading. Even its date was somewhat different as Saturnalia was celebrated between 17th and 23rd of Decenber, while Christmas is celebrated between 24th of December and 6th of January in the Catholic (or Western) world and 2 weeks later in the Orthodox Christian world. See about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia It is true that in the Western world (esp. in the USA) Christmas became somewhat jumbled with the Feast of Saint Nicolas / Santa Claus whose feast day is 6th of December. But still, Santa Claus day is NOT Christmas. It is a pity that this is not well-known enough. It is possible that giving gifts to children in remembrance of Saint Nicolas - who was a bishop and a great organizer of charity - "Christianized" the custom of giving some gift to children at Saturnalia (although this is only a hypothesis). And the date of Christmas being on 25th of December originates from Tertullian's opinion who said that Christ's rising happened on 25th of March. And then Jesus Christ's conception should have happened the same date - because that sounded nice theologically. And then Jesus Christ's birth must have happened on 25th of December, of course. And his opinion became widely accepted. But besides this there is another, biblical argument for at least the "late December or early January" date. As one can read in the Bible, Saint John the Baptist's father got a divine revelation at Yom Kippur (late September or early October) that he will have a child with his wife (although both of them were old and they had no child until that time). And a few days later her wife, Elisabeth really conceived a child - who became later John the Baptist. When Elisabeth was in the 6th month of her pregancy she began to spread this news. So this could happen in late March. A few days later her young relative, Mary of Nazareth heard about this miraculous event, and soon after that an angel, Archangel Gabriel appeared to her and told her she will immediately conceive a child, too, and also miraculously. Mary accepted this calling and then her son, Jesus could be miraculously conceived in late March (or early April). And so then it is logical (and, who knows, perhaps this was Tertullian's way of thinking, too), that Jesus could be born in late December.
@greenergrass4060 3 жыл бұрын
The Yom Kippur dating has to be the most solid argument ive seen yet, for Jesus being born in December. Even if he is born in September, (the alternative outcome), that would make his conception still on December
@jollygoodyo 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping this Christmas season will fill you and your family with peace, love and joy! Merry Christmas everyone!
@AndrewTheMandrew531 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas
@jollygoodyo 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewTheMandrew531 Thank you
@jollygoodyo 3 жыл бұрын
@Rodney James Sure Rod. Happy holidays to you then.
@AndrewTheMandrew531 3 жыл бұрын
@Rodney James Buddy, you don’t even know the lies and bile you speak. Saturnalia occurred from the 15th to the 17th of December, however, the baby Jesus was conceived within the blessed virgin on Passover. The Roman saturnalia never coincided with our Christmas, because Christmas took place nine months after Passover.
@fiddlesticks7245 3 жыл бұрын
@Rodney James Imagine thinking that people exchanging gifts, praising God, and thanking Christ for blessing us with his coming is false worship because it happens in a similar timespan as a heathen festival. My homie my brother in God pull the plank, and stick, out of your ass
@Mgyuh 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at “Blackjack and Hookers”
@taethegreat6607 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Saturnalia boys! I yearn for the day when we return to the imperial glory
@Johnny_Tambourine 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Festivus everyone!
@ultimatebishoujo29 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Festivus!!!
@Violent2aShadow 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I know who I am praying for at the Christmas dinner prayer....
@voldicz 3 жыл бұрын
Saturnalia becomes the 'carnival', it seems, the festivity 40 days ahead of Easter (the 'last chance of making fun', the party of the flesh ('carne' = flesh, body)).
@Dinofaustivoro 3 жыл бұрын
"Pagan" sounds really awkward when used for the main religious custom of a people in a certain time, as if every non-catholic feith in the history of humanity were heretic.
@fiddlesticks7245 3 жыл бұрын
Every non-Christian* and they are. But in this context its wrong to be anal about this before the death and Christ and the apostles' doing their thing.
@angryowl5972 3 жыл бұрын
As a Hindu, the word “Pagan” never sat well with me. Non-Abrahamic / pre-Abrahamic European is more fitting IMO. But then again some cultural context might be lost in translation
@fiddlesticks7245 3 жыл бұрын
@@angryowl5972 I don't care
@minutemansam1214 3 жыл бұрын
@@fiddlesticks7245 Every non-Arian Christian is heretical. You're a bloody heretic, mate.
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I will leave this links to debunk misnconception myth about Christmas: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@JulianApostate 3 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain that Marc Anthony offered the crown to Caesar on Lupercalia, not Saturnalia. Apart from that, great video! Io Saturnalia!
@likezoinks9615 2 жыл бұрын
I live in New Orleans and we get two weeks off of school for mardi gras, honestly Christmas is sweet and nice but its often way too formal with my family, and i could go for saturnalia instead
@thomasdavies2555 2 жыл бұрын
Saturnalia totally needs to come back
@samdumaquis2033 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know people wore phrygien hats on that day, tve phrygien hat is a symbol of the French Revolution
@MaylocBrittinorum 3 жыл бұрын
The revolutionaries adopted the pryghien hat precisely because of that, it was a classical symbol of freedom.
@AndrewTheMandrew531 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaylocBrittinorum Aha! But freedom as a means to what? Hm? I joke, but it’s interesting to think about.
@atticusrussel3485 3 жыл бұрын
It was originally for freed slaves. The french liked the idea so they coopted it
@JonathanRivera-dj6mm 10 ай бұрын
Well, many people think that Christmas is to celebrate Jesus' Birthday or Santa Claus plus there was a moment in Mexican history when they tried to replace Santa with Quetzalcoatl. But nobody talks about its Ancient Roman roots, which was awesome and very wild!
@markwise9138 3 жыл бұрын
Christmas on Dec 25th was not artificially chosen to match up with Saturnalia. It was just coincidentally around the same time. There is an old Jewish custom that Moses was conceived and died on the same day, as such, he lived a complete life. When picking a date for Christmas, this was applied to Jesus since we knew he died at the Jewish Passover. The year in question had Passover on March 25th, so if we se that day as the day Jesus was conceived, then 9 months later would be Dec 25th... his birth.
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I will leave these links to debunk misconception myths about Christmas: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@witchypoo7353 3 жыл бұрын
This would explain why Christmas would have such a rocky history later on, especially among the colonials in the Americas
@beren1898 2 жыл бұрын
You maybe want to watch this and reconsider that view: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
@brycevo 3 жыл бұрын
Io Saturnalia! Can't we bring this back?
@norastorm99 3 жыл бұрын
Ofc!!!
@sirBrouwer 3 жыл бұрын
In all but name it does still exist. Like it was written down. The carnival festivities are just that. A week long drinking, parting, watching massive parades and just having fun. There is even a random person that will be appointed to be prince Carnival of there town/village for that week.
@Ideo7Z 3 жыл бұрын
Mardi Gras and Carnevale...
@jamesforreal Жыл бұрын
Ways of celebrating are universal. The old religions made traditions and holidays like Christmas possible.
@trellises 7 ай бұрын
Saturnalia it is! Happy Saturnalia everyone!
@shadown5757 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if Christmas was more like Saturnalia 😎👍
@erynn9968 Жыл бұрын
Would be great if Christmas remains what it actually is - a religious holiday for those who care. And all people would receive something universal and uniting, instead of debates and confusion.
@carolsaia7401 Жыл бұрын
Make it so!
@ronaldanthony4 2 жыл бұрын
Christmas is actually derived from this event. It is confirmed with facts. Originally, the commemoration of Jesus' birth was on the day of Epiphany (First Sunday of January) but those Roman who counterfeited Christianity preferred to commemorate it on Saturnalia to make it more joyous and make it united with the Roman Empire and thus the celebration of Christmas was born
@Max-hc7mx 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas all
@AndrewTheMandrew531 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@esperantoviro 3 жыл бұрын
"Christmas" (Yuletide) also has north European origins. Yule is an old Germanic word for "joy" and the old German word for December was "Julmond" (Mount of Jubilation) due to the winter solstice. The Romans also celebrated "Sol Invictus" at this time. Loved the film.
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a really fun holiday. One I wouldn't mind indulging in.
@adrianbundy3249 3 жыл бұрын
Well, we might want to change some things. I could imagine PETA might be really upset about the cows. But otherwise, yes :)
@witchypoo7353 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianbundy3249 lol
@adrianbundy3249 3 жыл бұрын
@@witchypoo7353 The more I think of it, the more I say we should do it anyway. Just have a bunch of fresh burgers on the market too. And seeing PETA's reaction would be worth the price for admission even as just the cherry on top.
@witchypoo7353 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianbundy3249 lmao. PETA sucks so hard. I swear they’re a cult, but I can’t prove it on the bite model because idk how to use it
@unclesam5230 3 жыл бұрын
When are you gonna talk about the birthday of Sol Invctus the Sun God of the Roman Emperor Aurelian
@histguy101 3 жыл бұрын
His birthday was in August or something
@MrCount84 3 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 no December 25
@CaptainGrimes1 3 жыл бұрын
Give us an Emperor from humble beginnings, give us Aurelian!
@alejandrosakai1744 Жыл бұрын
To date, it has been one of my favorite videos on your channel because the artwork by Bev Johnson is very beautiful! Great job!
@Jake-zk3eb 3 жыл бұрын
Saturnalia sounded really awesome.
@georgemay8170 3 жыл бұрын
The celebration of Dec. 25 in respect to "Sol Invictus" was done by the Roman soldiers 70 years after the birth of Christ on this date.
@conorhenderson8537 2 жыл бұрын
70 years prior and earlier than that too. Sol Invictus is Holy unlike jesus and christianity.
@georgemay8170 2 жыл бұрын
@@conorhenderson8537 Satan is Saturn, the self=deceived god in the minds of the nonChristians.
@conorhenderson8537 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgemay8170 satan is Not. Wayyy Not Saturn. satan =/= saturn satan devil fallen. Saturn God Creator and Judge far better than your false god yahweh who is devil like satan and jesus and moses all devils from Hell. Repent.
@conorhenderson8537 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgemay8170 satan =/= =/= =/= saturn in the least jesus =/= saturn yahweh your False way False god =/= Saturn The True Lord and Great God. Lord Saturnus The True One HE Lord of All. Repent Devil lover. Repent
@f.b8134 2 жыл бұрын
You maybe want to watch this and reconsider that misconception view about Sol Invictus and Christmas: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqton7mJtNmzcZc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82ofaWTldK0iIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odN8rNulrtPJiYE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fayYe9CbnJ3Dops.html
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