Yeah I thought I knew that tiny flies from somewhere. When I had some in my potted plants a friend of mine who works at a florist, told me that the Eggs of this gnats are just to be found in the top layer of the substrate. If it is left to dry trough at the surface, the eggs will die, and to prevent the adults laying new ones, like you said yellow fly paper is really helpful. So it probably would have been enough to transfer Bonnibel to a different enclosure for some time, to let the substrate dry trough completely. Now that all the substrate is out it should be laid out to dry, and like you said a drainage layer wouldnt be the worst Idea :-)

Unfortunately they ended up getting into every bioactive enclosure I had and just kept multiplying, so I was desperate to get the main source out of the house. And savannah monitors will tear up and ruin drainage layers :/

@@GoHerping Oh dang :/ this gnats are really a curse. But at least they are harmless to your animals, and maybe even a snack for every other toad or lizard XD . Good luck to you, hope you get rid of them.

What vet did you go to? I live in charlotte and its always fun to try and find a good exotic vet.

You can bake stuff in the oven to kill unwanted bugs.

Green iguanas are like $100 man 😂

Charles Perkins....dude means over the 15 years not for the actual pet

@Charles Perkins because a 13 foot tank is 100$ huh?

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Savannah monitors rip up drainage layers so that isn't an option unfortunately. I could add charcoal though

That's true, if I understood correctly, the vet I acquired help from never actually cared for or had experience with savs, so yeahhhh.

Yeah, if my doctor had only read about people and never actually treated one, I'd probably ignore his advice too lmao

Noooooo don't ignore the advice!! It's one thing to consult someone else or do a lot of research on your own, but don't automatically disregard their advice. Vet school is EXTREMELY hard and being able to graduate from it shows a lot of dedication. Intestinal parasites are basically the same for all animals and are almost inevitable in puppies so the treatment is the same (some of the meds might not be, but it's the same routine in dogs). If the vet sucks then I get it, but these degrees are super hard to get and take a lot of studying- it's literally harder than human med school because we have to learn it for all sorts of species and not only humans. Don't just go on a forum and trust random people, if they seem a bit sketch then get a consult from an exotics vet. I worked at a vet hospital and even though the usual patients were just dogs and cats, (because very few people have exotics in our area), we still had some exotics come in and all the vets are amazing with them and really know their stuff. My boss actually euthanized my guinea pig when I was a kid and I didn't even realize until I started working there and was like "wait a sec" lol. We've had wild raccoons, crows, opossums, snakes, birds and more. Just because they're not the regulars didn't mean that they didn't get amazing, life-saving care. On the flip side, there's an exotics vet not far from me who is horrible and has run unnecessary tests for money as well as killed animals due to handling them wrong and being overly rough on them in their already fragile state. So please trust me when I say that I understand that you don't want to blindly trust someone, but if they are reputable and you've double checked with your own research then you can.

Lol, ignoring the advice of veterinary professionals is fucking hilariously stupid. They don't need experience with these animals to run send out parasite fecal tests and blood work. Similarly, medications for hookworm and related parasites can be given without these "experts" as hook worm can be found in dogs and cats. So much ignorance it hurts.

Also, the vet may not have experience with these animals but neither do you. So yeaaahhhh. Maybe take advice from someone with a license in veterinary medicine and access to everything you'll need to make sure your lizard doesn't die. Ignorance is a killer.

There's 2 at mine... :\

That's actually so messed up. You could go to the manager and try to explain that they're super advanced, and if they don't care about the animals' wellbeing, tell them that they'll get a bad reputation and bad reviews from people who know lizards well enough so that maybe they'll care. It's bad enough that they sell critter trails, chameleons and basically all their animals from mills but... Jesus christ a monitor is farther than I thought they'd ever go. I hate people

I've seen Savannah's and Blue Tongue Skinks at my Petco, and I had to physically stop myself from buying the Savannah, which was underweight and 'on sale' for only about 15$. I can't imagine how much more money I'd be spending on vet bills on a lizard that might not survive, not to mention theoretically infecting my other reptiles - and ultimately even on sale, I'm never going to buy animals from Petco and encourage the company to think demand is up, so supply should increase as well.

Same but my petco gets out their animals almost every day handle them and give them proper food they don't give leopard gecko sand or bearded dragons and have decent care to tell you I am very proud of my petco

To be fair the same goes for dogs, cats and birds. Most people have no idea what they are getting into. The time, money, commitment and love for the entire duration of the life of the animal.

We were vendors/sellers in July and will be again in January. Just went to check it out this weekend lol

@@GoHerping guess I gotta go check it out 😊

You really need to upgrade him my dude

good to hear haha, thanks!

Oh nice haha, we'll be back as Raleigh vendors again in January 👌

​@@GoHerpingwhat did you deworm the savannah with? Was it panacur/fenbendazol?

What I use for flies is a cup of coffee and apple mixed with boric acid.

Bio Dude's soil is hella expensive lol. Especially with how much he needs

Cambria Young it’s expensive because it’s not like other substances, other substances you have to change every month when bios dudes you don’t change it.

@@Jonathan-lf2br Unless you actually make it bioactive with insects and stuff, you still have to change it every few months lol, and there are other substrates that you can use to go bioactive, not just Bio Dude's mix

It'd cost about $600 in soil with the amount I need buying from him, I used apple cider vinager for about 2 weeks with no luck and the medicine needs to be syringe fed straight down the back of her throat because the dose is so tiny. Thanks for the feedback!

I have to buy large compressed blocks online about monthly right now, and I was actually just at an expo lol. Unfortunately prices weren't too great, possibly because a lot of supplier sellers ended up not going but i'll keep looking. thanks!

Also was thinking once her parasite issue is dealt with she may calm down and react to training/taming sessions better.. illness causes stress which comes out as aggression in a lot of animals especially reptiles

And if you’re concerned about bugs/mold you can hydrate the coir with boiling water in a large insulated cooler such as the kind one would bring to a sporting event. 3:1 ratio of water to coir for optimal moisture content. This will hydrate the coco so that its not super dry but also not soaking wet. If you go with this method plan on waiting nearly 24hours for the coir to cool down as the insulated cooler will retain the heat very efficiently. If done properly this methodology will pasteurize the substrate killing any non-heat resistant organisms

$65 physical, $140 blood, $30 fecal, $40 antibiotics

That's where I get mine! It's like $15 for a block. I've never had any bugs from a grow store product.

This is genius! I live in OR and there’s one 10 mins from my house LOL

Unfortunately monitors will dig up and ruin any drainage layers or separation - but I may still be able to get by with some microfauna

Good idea! There are some plants that will naturally repel them like sage, but he'd just have to make sure it's safe. Ofc it wouldn't kill them or prevent the reproduction, but it might help a bit.