SAVE PACKFILM...yourself?! Supersense's DIY Peel Apart Film Breakdown, History, and How To!

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After Polaroid and FujiFilm discontinued their beloved packfilms, Florian 'Doc' Kaps undertook the impossible task of reviving the format with his company Supersense. Their keystone product, One Instant packfilm, is a one-shot film using legacy materials to keep the format alive. In the quest for sustainability, Supersense's Chris Holmquist visits the studio to show us their newest product, a DIY packfilm that puts the power in the shooters hands.
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00:00 Intro
00:58 How Supersense Saved Packfilm
05:08 DIY Packfilm Tutorial
12:40 Shooting with One Instant

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@supersense695 8 ай бұрын

Ben - thank you so much for collaborating on this video with us! Not only was it a blast to come to New York to work on it with you, but you’ve given the world an incredible look at our new ONE INSTANT DIY FILM KIT, and what it hopes to accomplish in our quest to #savepackfilm. Our goal is to sell 222 kits in the next month or two, to see if this boat is gonna sink or float - we're not sure if we’ll be able to do it yet, but I know for sure that we wouldn’t stand a chance without your help! Long live IN AN INSTANT! 🥳

@entity9742 8 ай бұрын

Hello supersense I believe it was early march i was able to purchase a batch of p7 material with roughly 40 pods and from my experience working with trimming the negative to a roll film format its definitely possible that this DIY film in the hands of some might actually help with the spreading problems ive seen from a few shots For me working with the film i had to ultimately make the image size roughly 3x3.5 inches and that helped save the spread without changing the format too much I still have a bit of it left but the majority was sold off to fund a few projects here for a short film but what i can say is it was definitely a positive experience for those who enjoy using the old roll film formats and i have no doubt that if they make their own shots theyll love them even more due to the experience of hands on crafting involved with it

@Zee216 3 ай бұрын

Did you get it done? Is this the end of the road for this product? Is there any chance for this to scale up and the price to come down?

@3Gee 8 ай бұрын

Score! I can finally put my kids to good use! 🙌

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear they're good for something!

@doge_fanman4442 7 ай бұрын

@@InAnInstant😂

@OkieRoamer 8 ай бұрын

This is so cool! Still really expensive though. I really hope it's a hit and it can go back into production.

@ribsy 8 ай бұрын

damn this is really cool. pack film lives on, for real!

@ray-te1ik 8 ай бұрын

As someone only caught the trail end of the Fuji era packfilm, it’s fascinating to see the inner working of the packfilm and wonder what the two tab pulling of Fuji’s film were doing. This is really really cool! I don’t have my land camera anymore but this serious tickled my brain and I might just starting to look for some cheaper model to try it out!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

For sure! The cameras are so cheap these days it's worth it for this experience.

@mcb187 8 ай бұрын

As someone who makes their own 120, 220, and sheet film, I can confidently say that it is one of the most satisfying things ever to see your roll come out of the tank, knowing that it went from raw stock to finished roll to developed negative all under your control. Congrats on finding a way to get this out there and making it easy for folks!

@bobbleczar 8 ай бұрын

wait... how are you making your own 120 film???

@inkaststudio 8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear they’re manufacturing fresh chemicals! The future of peel-a-part looks bright 🙏🏾

@bentbilliard 8 ай бұрын

Another episode "packed" with film. I didn't expect any less.

@Analog_Momo 8 ай бұрын

Being a guy who already builds his own cameras retrofitting modern film format rollers to antique cameras and adding manual exposure, this gives me a lot of hope for maybe someone being inspired enough to dive deeper into the origami behind packfilm. One thing I plan to do is produce handmade bellows for all Polaroid roll and packfilm cameras. We've all got this!❤ I'm happy to be bringing analog photography to a new generation, my generation now that I'm 18 I plan on producing open source DIY videos for the time being while these film types are still dead.

@eileen4876 8 ай бұрын

i've been following supersense saving pack film and hand making it but this pack film kit is an amazing idea! i hope this kit can grow and become more accessible

@noahzyla5258 8 ай бұрын

There is my photo of Chris in the video which I took during the workshop he did in Polagraph in Prague in the beginning of February 2020 🥰 Have just pre-ordered one DIY pack 😉

@lofianddiy 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic as usual- Ben, you are a godsend! And thanks to Supersense for the amazing work they do!!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Aaron and all you do as well!

@GuitarHero3SH 8 ай бұрын

That’s SO COOL

@serafilm 8 ай бұрын

I'm not ready to say goodbye to my Pack Film Polaroid. I was very impressed with SuperSense's results. I salute SuperSense's packfilms for getting better and better. I look forward to the future.

@michaeldimmitt2188 8 ай бұрын

HOW AWESOME IS THIS!!! Great video & collaboration! I definitely want to try this!!!

@marcweintraub 8 ай бұрын

So want. Thanks for the video!!!!

@Tahmaders 8 ай бұрын

Yoooooooo! This is insane! I thought I'd never have the chance to get pack film! Time to find that polaroid back for my universal!

@doctorstrobe 5 ай бұрын

I have an idea that may or may not be interesting: 3D printing the cardboard components would probably be more expensive BUT what about organizing a system/option to have the customer print them and then send the used ones to Florian?

@aglassbrightly 7 ай бұрын

I love how this innovation was not driven by money-making goals, but done with the shooter in mind. I can't wait to get my hands dirty and join the cause to help save packfilm!

@frankpavich 8 ай бұрын

A brilliant idea! Looking forward to trying this!!

@andrewbarnum5040 8 ай бұрын

This will put the manufacturing knowledge into more hands, some of which may engineer a better way to make it and that will lead to better pack film. Love what your doing but us who own pack cameras either need to mod our battery compartment or find a battery which is super expensive.

@LemonExtras 8 ай бұрын

This is so cool!!! Watching your videos, I’d always found pack film interesting but always thought since it’s expensive and scarce, I’d never shoot it and leave it for the folks that really want it. But the sustainably and delivery of this has me rethinking!!!

@virgilplays 7 ай бұрын

very excited to get mine!!!

@flyingo 8 ай бұрын

Fabulous! Very expensive, but that’s normal for anything truly worthwhile at the beginning stages of development (pun intended). I’ll support Supersense and hope others will too. Then the price per shot “should” gradually drop. The old machines that take pack film are too brilliantly designed to just set on shelves due to Fuji and Polaroid abandoning their products. Bravo!

@steelstrike 5 ай бұрын

I just found my dads old polaroid propack land camera while cleaning the house after my parents passing and research brought me here! So glad there is still some use for this camera

@germansaez 8 ай бұрын

So happy they did this. It’s great.

@MauroTallerdeArteMauro 8 ай бұрын

AWESOME! I want to do this!!!

@PS-it4ox 6 ай бұрын

Really like the idea of DIY, as a part of the creative process (and as a way to keep costs down). Now looking for my first camera within the segment, and then definately buying som DIY kits! Thanks for the informative video! 👍👍

@entity9742 8 ай бұрын

Seems like all that time talking with chris when getting the 20x24 p7 material paid off I believe that with certain modifications people can do itll allow the film to really take off and grow as well as possibly help with the spread issues that some shots have (i believe putting a spacer over the pods would help immensly)

@supersense695 8 ай бұрын

We certainly think one of the biggest sleeper features of the DIY FILM KIT is that shooters could now customize their films in any way they like. They can swap components, add additional seals on the pods, create parts we never thought of... the sky is the limit!

@entity9742 8 ай бұрын

@@supersense695 exactly part of me wonders sometimes if other negative components might work as well as i know fomapan works for b&w but im also wondering if anyone have tried e-6 or c-41 negatives for the p3/p7 chemistry

@youjustgotcarled 8 ай бұрын

This is awesome, I wish I had the money to spare for it right now, but once I do I plan on buying a kit.

@DigitizedChaos 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, definitely gonna get some.

@alexiscuarezma 5 ай бұрын

this is so cool! Wish it was 4x5 but glad to see that 3.35 x 4.25 inches is available .

@janulmann3232 8 ай бұрын

Definitely a very cool concept. For me assembling it isn't an issue, however it is very expensive and I won't be able to afford these as of right now. More than 10 dollars per photo is too much for me.

@Carrotious 8 ай бұрын

Awesome

@BboyGraphicx 6 ай бұрын

Incredible

@tomjanowski8584 8 ай бұрын

I love this. This makes me hopeful that AI won't take over the world because some of us will be going hands on to do things like this.

@GAROBERBERIAN 7 ай бұрын

Amazing commitment and even with my bronica Polaroid back staring at me whenever I open up my old camera box man I don’t have the time and patience to do all of that. I will take my hat off to those committed to keep film going that’s really great but think this will be a novelty because of the time it takes. People will pay more for a finished product if Polaroid is their thing.

@Federico84 8 ай бұрын

Nice, finally pack film is more affordable

@CodyTurner 8 ай бұрын

This just blew my mind. How many of those DIY cameras are available?

@cameravintage 8 ай бұрын

Would I love to do this? Yess I sure would! Thank you for this love it!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

Username checks out!!

@donaldcongdon9095 8 ай бұрын

Fascinating! But you never really explained how the negative is protected during assembly and then unprotected before taking the picture. Do you pull something before taking the picture that removes the protective cover? Anyway, thanks for the video!

@AeromaticXD 8 ай бұрын

So cool

@TheEigylyte 8 ай бұрын

This is so amazing....😮 l bet very expensive too its no a game its talent and love for photography ❤ love it ❤

@user-ln4po9km6z 8 ай бұрын

Still expensive.. but I can’t wait ! Let’s try it in Brussels :)

@Karwan89PL 8 ай бұрын

Just waiting for salary and taking one even if it will be totally flop for me I will be glad to support :D

@niteycat 8 ай бұрын

My old land camera may get new life yet. One day.

@brpk9377 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for igniting the spark! Even though 88€-100€ for 10 shots is way too expensive to be sustainable(I know what the expired Fuji pack film cost, but that isn’t sustainable either is it?). I hope that talented people and people with deep pockets do see the trend and could bring this stuff, which we could already mass produced cheaply decades ago back. And back then way the should be(affordable and sustainable).

@gottanikoncamera 8 ай бұрын

I saved my last four or five 100-C cartridges. Could I just load the film/pods into these cartridges or are Supersense’s cardboard cartridges a different design?

@refard5 8 ай бұрын

Some undeserved negativity in the comments but I think it's a great idea everyone! Not only does it allow to cut on costs but to learn the process to do it yourself and I can't wait to see what all the creative people come up with because you can bet your ass we're gonna experiment with this process haha!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

I very much hope people take this and run - a real “put your money where your mouth is” moment for builders and creatives.

@DartzIRL 5 ай бұрын

Will old Fuji plastic cartridges work? Just keep reusing them?

@SteveSSBB 8 ай бұрын

FP-100c and Kodachrome are my two great photography loves. It still hurts. Could have shot only those two for as long as I can press a shutter.

@JSedits589 8 ай бұрын

An option for 4 colour and 4 B&W would be good for people who’ve not tried this film before.

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

That’s a great idea! Maybe something they’ll implement

@JSedits589 8 ай бұрын

@InAnInstant Me personally having not tried this stuff before, would be more interested if I could try both without having to buy 8 of each. Maybe also 4 normal B&W and 4 choco? Something for them to think about I guess, hope they hear about this eventually.

@patrickbarnes2707 8 ай бұрын

Can you bleach the black part snd have a working negative for future standard darkroom prints???

@Federico84 8 ай бұрын

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

The residual chemistry is almost like a positive, and fades pretty rapidly after exposure. It is so cool looking in the moment, though.

@andrewbarnum5040 8 ай бұрын

This solves one problem, now I need to find the weird battery my pack camera takes.

@nancycutler5561 8 ай бұрын

I converted mine to take aaa batteries.

@andrewbarnum5040 8 ай бұрын

@@nancycutler5561 I actually own a few land cameras and have looked into converting them however since the weird battery's are still available I have been going that route. But have not really used my cameras much since 2020.

@brandonmontz 5 ай бұрын

I am torn on this. While I love packfilm I just cannot let myself spend the $$ for this considering what you get for the cost on a product that is no longevity since it is based on a limited amount of old film stock. I will just baby the stash of FP100c that I have. Best of luck!

@jamesmccormick2696 8 ай бұрын

I shot, literally, thousands of sheets of packfilm as a commercial photographer. I managed to get a chemical burn from the goo at least once a week, somehow 😂

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

That’s a measure of pride for sure, I’ve gotten that quite a bit working with 8x10

@inventorOz84 8 ай бұрын

Just comes at a cost of 11 dolars a shot and 15mins of your life! Though, I must say it looks quite Rad!

@xaveb420 8 ай бұрын

My Land Camera lives?!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

Bursting through the ground in full zombie mode

@neeravnaik 8 ай бұрын

My clumsy ass watching this knowing I am never getting this as I will mess this up

@analogueandy8x10 8 ай бұрын

Too bad it doesn't fit a 545 holder. Hopefully Supersense will make a version that will fit. A DIY instant pack film is just too cool not to use!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

The 405 holder does! That’s what I’m using with the Graflex in the shooting segment.

@loganburde2838 8 ай бұрын

As much as I can appreciate what they are trying to do. I just dont see this format surviving in the long run unless they start to get new fresh materials made that are not from the 20x24 studio.

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

It is possible if products like this are supported. As mentioned in the interview, the chemistry within the pods for the black & white film is entirely fresh/made-from-scratch. The pod foil, which would be a challenging material to replicate, is also made new by Polaroid and supplied to 20x24 Studio. Only the positive and negative sheets are legacy material, and at least with regard to B&W film, that could be produced new today given enough financial support to the project.

@manuelmagic9000 8 ай бұрын

@@InAnInstantpositive and especially the negative materials are the core of this product and they are orders of magnitude more complex than the others parts. I do not shot pack film, still I wish the best for the format. But I’m not sure a future pack film will be possibile without huge investments.

@supersense695 8 ай бұрын

This is certainly our long-term goal. Normal B&W film works perfectly when substituted with our existing pods and paper, but the problem is it needs to be coated on black film or back-coated to be light-proof. New55 showed us that developing a new positive receiver sheet is also possible. So actually it is entirely within the realm of possibility to keep B&W alive forever, and this is something we are working on behind the scenes...

@cabbelos 8 ай бұрын

I love packfilm as much as the next guy, but I also have very mixed feelings and haven't bought any from them. If the materials are left over from the original Polaroid days, they will run out one day. And in a sort of a "tragedy of the commons" kind of way, I don't want to be accelerating the end of the end of packfilm. I want everybody to be able to experience shooting packfilm. I am down to my last two packs (one 3000B and one 690), so I'm building a Instax Wide back for my 600SE to cover all options.

@TEDodd 6 ай бұрын

@@supersense695how hard would,d itnbe tomuse tne current parts to make Type 40 roll film?Perhaps as a DIY thing, add the pods to the positive roll and connecting the negative leader (much simpler than pack film really) I guess the ISO would be a hurdle. It already limits the use of Instax a lot.

@beckmp4 8 ай бұрын

"Mind the pod."

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

New band name

@alexcerdenanyc 19 күн бұрын

122.00!! lmao

@charleyfolkes 4 ай бұрын

Very cool, but can you just buy a pack of film?

@GreggObst 8 ай бұрын

I really wish either the DIY version or the pre-assembled version were viable solutions for anyone but the rich, but at $12.24 USD a slice (plus shipping), that's just not the case. The DIY approach is an interesting concept for a product like this but for me, personally, it looks like too much work for too little benefit. I wish you luck though.

@marlmachine 8 ай бұрын

I personally would rather get instant b/w negatives over pack film. Bring back something like Polachrome instead!

@InAnInstant 8 ай бұрын

I’m sure a company like Polaroid or Kodak could do it, but the ROI surely isn’t there

@Nedski42YT 7 ай бұрын

I wish that somebody was manufacturing NEW film for Type 100 Polaroid cameras and other compatible cameras. Notice that I asked for NEWLY manufactured film! The film being sold now is OLD film. Am I wrong? This REPACKAGED film has been sold for the past few years for around $10 per shot. Apparently they have been making NEW chemical developing pods and the film holder assemblies. I guess that they are passing the task of assembling the film holder assemblies on to the consumer so the price can be KEPT at $10 per shot. Either way, $10 per shot is too expensive for me. Kudos to them for making something available to consumers who can afford the price. What happens when the OLD film runs out? Me sad. 😔

@BeesandTeasStitching 7 ай бұрын

There is no way a business model of 100 dollars for 8 shots is going to work. That is a ridiculously high price.

@rid. 8 ай бұрын

88€ les 8 films c'est hors de prix, même pour les passionnés. A 2 € le film oui ça donnera envie de commander par 100 , 150 200 voir 500€ Mais 88€🤦🏽‍♂️ c'est impossible. Les boîtiers resterons encore longtemps dans les vitrines. On surveille votre solution à venir merci

@JoffyCake 8 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly, glad there are efforts being made but when the cost is nearly the same as expired packs of Fuji the need to assemble it yourself "to save money" isn't actually saving money for the consumer which is what will make or break the revival of pack film

@Federico84 8 ай бұрын

Well it’s way cheaper than buying the premade shots from them

@refard5 8 ай бұрын

Nan mais t'as pas écouté la video toi.

@rid. 8 ай бұрын

@@refard5 si après j'ai ptetre pas tout compris. Ils espèrent faire baisser les prix ça j'ai compris. Mais jusqu'à quel niveau de prix de revient au film ? Le rêve serait à moins d'un euro.

@TEDodd 6 ай бұрын

@@JoffyCakethis is new, not expired. Expired film always comes with risks. That $100 pack of expired film may not work at all, ormneed longer processing which you learn after wasting a shot. Given all the film today is more than 6 years past the date. I'd rather spend the money on known good/fresh film.

@ImperiousImages 8 ай бұрын

This is cool and all, but more labor intensive than wet plate! Pass.

@lofianddiy 8 ай бұрын

I think that is part of the point- to educate those of us who think everything should be cheap and easy, that it is neither cheap nor easy. BTW, I have always been interested in wet plate. Is it cheap and easy?

@supersense695 8 ай бұрын

We can assure you, this is waaay easier than wet-plate! It takes less than 10 minutes of sitting at a desk to build one shot from the ONE INSTANT DIY PACK FILM KIT. If you consider everything that goes into doing wet plate, not to mention dealing with hazardous chemicals, this is a cake walk by comparison. Wet-plate is a lifestyle, this is a Sunday evening project. 😉

@giudelollo 8 ай бұрын

For God´s sake, no one will use this. Forget.

@lofianddiy 8 ай бұрын

3d puzzles, model airplanes, make your own pinhole camera, plastic camera kits, etc. There is definitely a market- I just hope they have the reach to hit the market.

@sidceaser 8 ай бұрын

Shhhhhh - let people enjoy things.