Saving Bally's famous Eight Ball Pinball Machine - Repainting The Trashed Playfield

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@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

These are the crimpers we use when we repin the connectors to fix these Bally games! amzn.to/3aLST7Y ANYTHING! you buy on Amazon after clicking that link doesn't raise your prices but gives us a referral tip, thank you!

@JohnnyForehead 4 жыл бұрын

Most of these old pinball machines I have completely forgotten that I ever played them and would probably never think of them again until I came across them on KZfaq...and then the warm memories come flooding back.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Just think, this could be the exact table you played somewhere :)

@joewilliams5283 3 жыл бұрын

You NAILED that green! Awesome job!

@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, we appreciate the kind words, I thought it turned out pretty decent myself! I've got a Flight 2000 I'm going to be working on that's in even worse shape but we'll see how it goes :)

@melanatedprose9134 4 жыл бұрын

I liked the bubble unwrapping and seeing that new MPU Board. Very nice job with the painting on the gameboard. I do confess that as an owner of two gameboy advance sp(s) the many games under the display glass are eye candy! But I digress. "A big freakin/friggin mess." That's funny since you eventually get it fixed.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

We still sell a lot of Gameboy games! This Eight Ball came out pretty nice, I have another one we're going to do pretty soon but it's in much nicer condition than this one....

@jims.6574 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite game from childhood. I drove 10 hours to pick one up. Now the grand kids love it.

@williamcooper2368 2 жыл бұрын

Your painting is awesome. It looks so much better.

@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you William, that's very nice of you to say. I'm painting a Bally "circus" today we'll have videos of it out eventually.

@maccustoms2295 4 жыл бұрын

Glad someone is saving a piece of history. You just dont see games like these any more.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert, yes we try to keep them up and going!

@spidermcgavenport8767 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, gentlemen for the restoration of these pinball machines.

@spidermcgavenport8767 4 жыл бұрын

For vintage tech, I just use IPA at 91% & 50% wintergreen. Just recently I worked on a original NES cartridge, Mega Man 2, used a soft pencil eraser on the contact pads and it worked wonderful after cleaning it with IPA the cartridge worked immediately after a cleaning.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

The funny thing about that is on the back of NES cartridges it says not to clean them with alcohol... but if you bought the NES cleaning kit the bottle it came with was nothing but alcohol :) Thank you for watching Spider, we appreciate it!

@spidermcgavenport8767 4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I have the Performance made kit your mentioned and absolutely it was pure alcohol almost the highest percentage. It burned the finger tips and if you had a hangnail forget about it ouch.

@jackkreacherr9339 4 жыл бұрын

I actually have this machine in my basement, different company plate..but same exact machine. works great. nice vid

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool Jackk, it's a great game, one of the best. It was actually the best selling modern machine until Addam's Family came out!

4 жыл бұрын

Had to see this. Loved this game. Would get free games like crazy.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Stephen, maybe this was an actual table you played at one point????

@roryvonbrutt7302 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful pinball machine ! ! !

@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын

We really liked it, thank you for watching Rory!

@b.o.353 4 жыл бұрын

Love this game. Remember playing at the Yellow Brick Road Arcade in the early 80s. Played it in Banning last time I was there. Great game.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Yellow Brick Road Arcade, what a name! Apparently there was a bar down the street here that had games in it called "Godzillas"... and later "young Americans" probably after the David Bowie song....

@b.o.353 4 жыл бұрын

Joe's Classic Video Games funny I didn’t even ever think all these years about the song name. Had Playboy, Black Knight, 8-Ball and Haunted House at some point in time. Not sure if they were all there at once. Wish nowadays I had played them more back then when they were newer. Love the videos.

@pezjohnson 5 жыл бұрын

Love to see this working again. The touch ups looked great. Too bad it's already sold.

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Little bit longer and we'll have it up and going :)

@Yoeddy1 5 жыл бұрын

Nice job, Ron!

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Yoeddy!

@JimFortune 4 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed at how many games used interchangeable guts over so many years. Nowadays you're lucky if this year's phone uses the same charging cable as your last phone!

@roryvonbrutt7302 2 жыл бұрын

Jim fortune.... corporate greed/bean counters ! ! !

@dereknav400 2 жыл бұрын

I just found you and subscribed! This is awesome info!

@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Derek, we appreciate it man!

@sasfarmer9379 5 жыл бұрын

another great job joe :) x

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sas Farmer!

@grlg2 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe (or is it Ron), great to see it close to working again. I know you say your not an artist but it still looks very good to me. Cheers.

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Ron is the guy that talks in the videos, his brother Joe does a lot of the work off camera! We both thank you for your compliments :)

@grlg2 5 жыл бұрын

Cool!

@thomasmickle7289 4 жыл бұрын

I can cetainly respect how you save this one. I spend hours matching each color, but you would never recoup that time when you sell it. I repainted all the "cream" back to white on my Cyclone which took forever!

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

The one thing I'd like to spend more time on with them is getting the clear perfectly flat, the slight color variance doesn't bother me too much but I wish I could get it smooth!

@thomasmickle7289 4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade My last project took over 30 coats of 2 part auto clear. Ridiculous, but I like the "sheet of glass" look.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

holy Moly. That's a little more than I'd want to do, lol.

@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын

You know, I remember actually playing this game at a KOA Kampground near Broken Bow, Oklahoma, probably in 1978 or 1979. At the time they had a pretty large arcade (mostly pinball) that took dimes instead of quarters. It's no surprise that the playfield takes a battering. Doesn't matter how tough the paint is, you've got steel balls rolling around the table. Eventually that's gonna take a toll, even if it takes decades.

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Yup definitely, especially where the inserts are as the lip gets rounded off by the ball...

@InMyHead 5 жыл бұрын

I come for the intriguing concept of watching someone fix something....I stay for the colorful commentaries like "We Gon' Make It Ride One More Time!" lol

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@tallfred500 4 жыл бұрын

The cream color is lead paint. A bit of sunlight will turn it white again.

@gregyourspinedoctor 5 жыл бұрын

Love the videos, please add a minute or two of the actual work, the before and after is great but more content of work being done will be of great help.

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

I try to add as much as I can but it's a bunch of work setting up a tripod, editing out the extra stuff, etc.

@johnquillan4694 5 жыл бұрын

Pinball is making a strong comeback..Video games seem to be a bit more scarce as of the last couple years..Im wondering if the upswing in pinball is directly related to the scarcity of video games...Lots of home arcades out there!

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

I think Pinball is on an upswing because you can't really simulate it on a t.v.... and it's retro enough that people just feel it's cool :)

@Wildfire86872 4 жыл бұрын

When I use those craft paints for something, I get impatient and use a hair dryer to speed up the process (usually only takes a few seconds depending on how thick it's on) :P

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

That would work great!

@alexpurvis4851 4 жыл бұрын

I purchased one of these machines that was a re-theme for a demolition company. Then I rethemed it into a led light show/ glow paint pinball. Very unique.. Not sure if its still out there..

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

we'll find it eventually, and film a video of it :)

@demofilm 5 жыл бұрын

Every touch up that saves a game , is a game saved from the bin. Have you ever had the pub champion fight i cant find that game anywhere

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

We've never had that one...but one day :) We just recently bought a bunch of machines so they're still out there....

@demofilm 5 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade yea who knows what the future will bring us

@Renville80 4 жыл бұрын

demofilmpuntnl there’s a pretty decent simulation of it in the Pinball Arcade app.

@SirTinnlee 4 жыл бұрын

How was the clearcoat done? Was it just a light spay or did you put multiple coats, did you sand in between coats? It looks like your method is good and didn’t take long.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

We do it quick, usually a medium coat with a spray can keeping a wet edge, then let it dry. Next day wax it up nice, and you're off to the races. It's not like glass or anything, we're just using it as a protectant and trying to keep the playfield looking similar to how they used to look.... we don't sand it, you end up with a playfield that has imperfections but we started with one that was completely destroyed so we're happy with it considering the time spent! Thanks for watching!

@edwardskerness9226 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe, Where do you source these older pins. I'm in an area that the decent ones are going for crazy prices and the resto readys are absorbed!

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

People just call us up with old machines since they know we buy and sell them, usually we buy the ones that are in pretty rough shape :)

@dtbaran 5 жыл бұрын

Nice work on the play field! About how long did it take to do the painting touch ups?

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

I believe all in all it was about 8 hours!

@danijelcar5184 5 жыл бұрын

Nice Job it is alive again, wich coolor you using for playfield repair acrylic water base ?

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, Acrylic, but you have to clear coat afterwards.

@danijelcar5184 5 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I had a problem when I have restoring one playfield 10y before I use small enamel paint for small modell toys when I spray a 2k automotive clear all enamel paint was run from spot ....big problem 😂

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Yes i've heard of that before.... very common if you use Sharpies! sometimes they'll run when they clear....

@Itmonolith 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe. I've learned a pile from all your videos. Much thanks! After watching (training) I've touched up my playfield with acrylic paint like above but I'm concerned about applying clear coat. Do you have any videos showing you spray this on and how you deal with it? I've watched some others and they coat the whole thing, sand entire board, buff, etc. Lots of work. I've never seen you do that so I'd just love some help there.

@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын

I just spray it on with a can, I showed how I do it once and everybody said I do it wrong so you’ll have to find somebody else to show you how to do that, sorry.

@Itmonolith 3 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Thanks for reply. People suck but I get your position on this then.

@Itmonolith 3 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade You could send me the video ;-) I know I'd appreciate it.

@Mini-z1994 5 жыл бұрын

Really interesting so far, is it mostly restoring more then modernizing a bit on the channel ? (Just subscribed earlier here.) Like say changing the lights too warm white or yellow led's for less powerdraw & similar ? Would there be kits/lampboards made for that ? Like an additional small pcb of resistors that mounts into the machine and just sends the same signals at a lower current & voltage ?

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Yes we mainly try to make them similar to how they were originally, sometimes we'll upgrade a little bit of stuff. I dont' usually do LED's because I don't really like the way they look on the older games like this, which is mainly all we get in.

@Mini-z1994 5 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Ah gotcha, also while i haven't backtracked through any of your videos yet. Ever had a sega model 2 with something like Daytona USA or Sega Rally Championship that has needed service ? or perhaps any other model 2 arcade machines ?

@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын

Yes we have a bunch of Daytona videos on here, there's one somewhere showing what all the pcbs in the cabinet do.

@firehawk6188 4 жыл бұрын

What's a ballpark price one would expect to pay for this game after you guys have gone through and refurbished it?

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

We sold this one for $1899 when we were done with it.

@thomasmickle7289 4 жыл бұрын

Also, you probably already know this, but if you put naptha over the touchups, you can see how the clear will affect your colors.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

No i didn't know that, I'll check that out, thanks!

@toddjohnson5692 4 жыл бұрын

I played that one to death at local bowling alley!

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

You might have been one of the games that wore all this paint off :)

@toddjohnson5692 4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade My other favorite was one called 'Mibs' Seeing the balls fill up the scoreboard as you completed the shots was a lot of fun.

@drumdawg83 4 жыл бұрын

I have one of these machines in my basement, needs a new mpu board though

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Fix 'er Up!

@drumdawg83 4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I plan on it just havnt gotten around to buying the new board

@gregoryschmidt1233 4 жыл бұрын

I understand that restoring the artwork is not your primary concern. I'll just mention that you can buy electronic color-matching scanners which could save some time over trial and error.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't save any time, because you'd still have to mix it by hand. You could order the paint by color code after you scanned it, but that would be more expensive and would take time waiting or traveling to get the paint....

@gregoryschmidt1233 4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Good point. I guess that's what makes restoration work so time-consuming and expensive. I've been enjoying the videos. I remember playing lots of these games.

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Gregory, we appreciate your comments :)

@VideoNOLA 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if a modern Arduino board would have sufficient speed and processing power to handle all the I/O to run an entire pinball game like this!?!?

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

I'll bet it would, the wiring and software would be the main problems, these things actually have pretty complicated coding involved but it could be ran by the Adruino, it would just be very time consuming to code it all!

@mikepreston-engel8869 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, I poked a few dozen coins into that baby in my days. We've really ruined a lot of nostalgic moments by letting pinball machines deteriorate. The ones they make today are total ripoffs with too many lights. Half the time the machines are not level, have parts that don't work properly, and you have to stand on your head just to get a free game. I loved the analog machines a hundred times more than the digital pieces of shit. I owned a few machines in my day, a Gottlieb "Volley", and a Bally "Trail Drive"...one of my other analog machines was a William's "Star Pool".

@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын

We had one several years ago we filmed a video of, a "Star Pool", don't see that one too often. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZiWi8x6uLLccac.html