SAVING The Mk3 MX5 - Mazda MX5 BBR SUPER 200

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20 күн бұрын

The Mk3 is widely considered the worst MX5.. heavy and underpowered. Can the BBR upgrades make this feel as good as a Mk1 MX5 again??
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@spencerbarratt7421
@spencerbarratt7421 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for reviewing my car Jack and I have to say a very well judged review of the car! For the interested enthusiasts: Car is a 2008 MX5 Sport NC1 in Stormy Blue. BBR Super 200 conversion with manifold, centre pipe and GT back box. MeisterR CRD coilovers. Carbotech XP8 pads (epic!). It revs to 7750, the rev counter stops at 7500! Spencer
@richarddarsa6353
@richarddarsa6353 20 күн бұрын
It's absolutely lovely. I have an 09 NC2.5 Sport Tech, itching to drop £3K with BBR soon to get 200 which looks like the sweet spot to me. What did you spend on the coils, and would you recommend them if you live on a road with 20 speed bumps (N. London)? I know my car is a bit soft but its just right on the dire roads I have to drive every day.
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 20 күн бұрын
Please cover the hacked out hole on the strut towers. Perhaps 3D printed?
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 20 күн бұрын
I had the bread and margarine NC first and it was so much fun I traded it in for a NC-FL 2.0l Sport with limited slip diff, Bielstein dampers and Eibach springs and then gave it some love and elbow grease with an MX5 enthusiast who was an engineer at Conti :D Slightly different springs, modified original shocks, different roll bars, better bushings and some parts to stiffen the chassis. A little tuning magic on the ECU and that's it. Oh, we might have forgotten to reinstall the A/C at some point :D We tuned it for some B (or C) roads I drove very often and knew very well and it was a breeze on those roads.
@Gadne92.5
@Gadne92.5 20 күн бұрын
Like AutoAlex names his car, does this have a name? GUS maybe? 🤓
@spencerbarratt7421
@spencerbarratt7421 20 күн бұрын
@@richarddarsa6353 The coilovers were just under a grand to purchase. I live in S. London, and it is fine on speed humps etc.. You can really soften up the Meisters, they are currently set at 15 click from hard on the front and 20 on the rear, which is the base set up for the road that Meister gave me when I called them. They have 32 clicks in total!
@fritz4345
@fritz4345 20 күн бұрын
I don't care what people think. I have a 2011 NC for more then 10 years now and I still love this car. It's pretty much all the car you need for most drives.
@fabioribeiro5071
@fabioribeiro5071 20 күн бұрын
I still say that of all the mx5 i have driven the nc2 is the best of all and the only mx5 i haven’t drive is the nd3.
@antonakis79ohyes
@antonakis79ohyes 20 күн бұрын
It is the best MX5, so far, if you ask me.. and perfectly adequate for most circumstances..
@rcmakingtracks18
@rcmakingtracks18 20 күн бұрын
A also own a 2011 nc2, brilliant car in every way... totally agree. John
@VintageVigilante
@VintageVigilante 20 күн бұрын
I've got a 2007. I love it!
@benpenagonzales6014
@benpenagonzales6014 20 күн бұрын
Best mx5 imho. Should have got this with bbr 200 instead of my old 996
@stevesteve1965.
@stevesteve1965. 20 күн бұрын
As with motorcycles you can have much more fun with smaller engines, you tend to use most of the power and be on the edge whereas with bigger engines you'll never enjoy/use half its power.
@markcompton6750
@markcompton6750 20 күн бұрын
Yep. MX5 in any guise is better than almost any car. Not practical, not spacious but bloody brilliant 👍
@VintageVigilante
@VintageVigilante 20 күн бұрын
LISTEN. The NC is perfect STOCK. Yes, it slowly grows on you. A 2007 softtop has been my daily for 2 years here in beautiful Cape Town. I get to push it hard it every time I drive it. It never breaks. The comfy suspension absorbs real bumps on real roads while cornering at the limit. Judging an overtake is fun. It is genuinely fast around corners. The gearbox and brakes are perfect. This thing has such a huge sense of humour. Best of all, everyone smiles, waves, lets me in, and tells me they like my car. Because it has a big smiley face! And all the other cars are all sad and angry. *Decends from pulpit*
@MidLoafCrisis
@MidLoafCrisis 20 күн бұрын
I've owned two NCs. One was stock and the one I now own is the Super200... Trust me, this is exactly how it should have been produced from the factory. Unlike the car in the video I'm on non adjustable konis and a much quieter exhaust. A full Geo works wonders for handling and feel. It is OEM+ perfection
@VintageVigilante
@VintageVigilante 20 күн бұрын
@@MidLoafCrisis Might give it a second thought if I land up getting another one that needs TLC
@user-en9zo2ol4z
@user-en9zo2ol4z 19 күн бұрын
It's sense of humour convinces me above all else.
@jamiedufrayer5461
@jamiedufrayer5461 19 күн бұрын
​@@MidLoafCrisisI can second that. Had 2 nbs and 2 NCs. Currently also with the bbr super 200, koni dampers (adjustable) with bbr springs and adjustable roll bars. It's absolutely fantastic, I love it!
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas 16 күн бұрын
We need more car with friendly, happy face. No, seriously.
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats 20 күн бұрын
I've never encountered someone who doesn't think a NB looks better than a NA. NB looks more like a jaguar or boxster with its smoother lines
@petrichor649
@petrichor649 20 күн бұрын
That hacked hole in the strut turret, to get shock adjustment access is appalling.
@drjulianbarratt547
@drjulianbarratt547 20 күн бұрын
It’s truly awful having a hacked hole in the strut turret - how can someone even consider doing that?
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 20 күн бұрын
At least rig up a 3-D printed cover to hide the hideous sharp edges. Or even a puffy sticker with Hello Kitty on it would be an improvement.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 20 күн бұрын
Oof that's nasty. I just drilled two holes and tidied them up with a sharpie. They're a bit off-centre but they do the job and look okay-ish
@JonMurray
@JonMurray 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely staggered mate. Looks like they did it with a chainsaw.
@TheJmebe
@TheJmebe 20 күн бұрын
I've never understood why there is [may be] a downer on the NC. It's my favourite of all generations. So much so, I've just bought an 08 2.0 BBR supercharged (the old Cosworth unit they used to fit), hardtop, 5spd, LSD. Standard suspension. Love it! For the road, it corners on rails even with naff tyres. Brakes are amazing. Great gearshift. What's not to love! Someday, I'm hoping they will bring out an NE that has same proportions as the NC
@frogmaster83
@frogmaster83 20 күн бұрын
I have a mk3 2 litre. Its as fast as you need. People are so obsessed with numbers, learn how to drive. 🙄🙄
@asphalthedgehog6580
@asphalthedgehog6580 20 күн бұрын
If you live in a completely flat country with 62 MPH max speed 160HP is enough. Underpinnings and steering feel are by far the most important.
@richardbradley1598
@richardbradley1598 20 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved mine, yes it could have used more power but it never failed to make me smile every single drive.
@leightonhughes1635
@leightonhughes1635 20 күн бұрын
I have an NB and love it. Only had it about 8 months and cant fault it. Wish Id bought one years ago. Wanted one since they came out in 1990. Yes its not particularly quick but where I am in the UK even on country roads now you cant go much above 50 because of all the speed cameras anyway. Its all about roof down, suncream on for wind burn and a quick hour or two B road bash. Thats it. And yes people do wave at you just like in the old days with the classic beetle. The BBR kit is clever but doubles the cost of an NC. I just don't think its worth it to enjoy one. Just enjoy it for what it is standard
@michaelvanzoggel2673
@michaelvanzoggel2673 20 күн бұрын
The NC engineers went completely off chops trying to manage the necessary weight increases... Ie... Changing and shortening bolts in the wing mirror mounts to shave 2g. They had to add a lot of safety features and did amazing things to reduce the differential between the NB and NC. They tried their best.....
@michaellorenson2997
@michaellorenson2997 20 күн бұрын
I think the world is generally too hard on the NC Miata. This example comes across as a terrific road-going sports car, and a tremendous value. A person could certainly take some weight out of it, with some malice aforethought. And I simply don't physically fit into either the NA or NB, anyway, so the NC would be my choice of the three versions.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 20 күн бұрын
EveryDay Driver channel did a comparison and rated the NC the best. I agree with them.
@jonathanwells10
@jonathanwells10 16 күн бұрын
@@EvoraGT430 So do I having driven an NA, NB I bought an NC2.5 and absolutely loved it. Looking out for another
@johnbarry731
@johnbarry731 20 күн бұрын
I have a 2007 NC with all the same exhaust and engine mods including the BBR cams fitted at BBR and remapped by them with 200bhp. It’s a soft top! It doesn’t have the coilovers, but does have Eibach anti roll bars and IL Motorsports drop links. I think the updated anti roll bars make a big difference. I’ve had it for 12 years and love it. I’ve done a number of tours in the Alps with it including the Stelvio Pass and it was brilliant. Happy to bring it down after the summer if you fancy a go in it.
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 16 күн бұрын
I've had 2 mx-5's whilst in the UK. The '99 model with 145bhp and only 1000 kg. What a riot they were! Greetings from the Netherlands PS: I had mine set up for suspension and steering by a Japanese Track specialist in Leyland and it was as sharp as a razor! Purchase price was GBP 1300 and GBP 250 for steering and suspension
@roincec
@roincec 20 күн бұрын
Dailying my MX5 with track and autocross days, the NC is not as underpowered as you'd think. Heck the NA and NB is so much more underpowered. Hitting high speed corners on track while flat out is the best thing ever.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 20 күн бұрын
Sure is. A few handling mods and you can hassle plenty of 'faster' cars on track. I'm going to upgrade my exhaust, cams and get a remap, but not until I know I'm using what I already have to its fullest
@antonakis79ohyes
@antonakis79ohyes 20 күн бұрын
The best, more mature MX5 so far, period. Reasonable performance and passive safety as well. Great handling, too.
@ndsd04
@ndsd04 20 күн бұрын
I have a 2010 NC 3.5 with the BBR200 upgrade and the GT exhaust. Also Meister CRD plus some other nice mods. I’ve had two Mk1’s and I’ve never driven a ND, as I worry I’d want one. It really is a fab car, great fun to drive and very reliable. I’ve had the car for over 3 years and I can’t see me selling it any time soon. Also I think the NC looks wise is improving with age, so in many ways the perfect cheap sports car. Great video by the way.
@steveberridge4648
@steveberridge4648 20 күн бұрын
Funny this video follows the one on the original puma. Two wonderful cars for handling and response but both blighted by rust! I owned an NB 1.8i and loved it until the rust took it. Such usable cars and the supple ride makes them very handy on bumpy roads. Great video.
@defnotatroll
@defnotatroll 20 күн бұрын
NC is the best looking generation to me
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 20 күн бұрын
25th Anniversary in particular.
@lassydogpie5390
@lassydogpie5390 19 күн бұрын
@@EvoraGT430apart from the silly cream seats
@jujuUK68
@jujuUK68 20 күн бұрын
The folding hard top does make for a more secure car, if left in a car park, or outside. And of course, as safety gets more stringent, all cars get heavier. I think people are rather hard on the poor old Mk3, particularly in its 1.8 spec form. The 2l with LSD, bilseins, is still fun to drive. I had a Mk1 Eunos V Spec. which was a lot of fun. But who needs power, my MG Midget 1275 was lighter, slower and just as much fun, just different....... And my Alfa 75 3L, wasn't much fun at all, after a GTV2000, AlfaSud Sprint or even a 33 GreenClover leaf. But all my cars, Alfa, Mazda, MG, they all rust!
@benpenagonzales6014
@benpenagonzales6014 20 күн бұрын
You just need an old Jag to complete the set!
@gwyndafroberts886
@gwyndafroberts886 19 күн бұрын
I have the the mk1 and the bbr 200. I find myself using the bbr more often its amazing.
@garystewart3655
@garystewart3655 19 күн бұрын
Great review Jack, as ever, I'm on my 3rd NC and have a BBR 180 kit, half the price and on the dyno the car pushed out 186 BHP. Mine has BC coli-overs and up-rated pads and disks. It really is excellent fun, you can drive it as desired on UK roads and not feel like you are about to loose your licence. More pound for pound fun than pretty much any other car I've had including 911s, V8 M3 and Cayman - just make sure you underseal it regularly as they rust like mad.
@marcusbetteridge764
@marcusbetteridge764 20 күн бұрын
Best looking car of the bunch,equivalent of about 250 bhp on a modern 1.5 ton car thesedays. Plenty.
@bsimpson6204
@bsimpson6204 20 күн бұрын
Had an NC and drove it all over Europe, loved it, such fun, buy the 1.8 for revs or the 2.0 for torque, you choose 👍👍👍 PS, we had an ND after it, but for some reason didn’t enjoy it as much 🤨
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 20 күн бұрын
NC's are pretty good tools for being relatively cheap RWD cars that can be driven very fast. They're quite different from the earlier gens but just a lot more capable. In the grand scheme of things it's still a light weight sports car especially compared to what's available today
@leevanqueef2658
@leevanqueef2658 19 күн бұрын
Stunning colour. Sounds great, too. Looks are subjective. I've a turbo mk1, and that really does keep you on your toes...
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss 20 күн бұрын
With an MX5 it's all about the fun factor, if you want a full on sporty you need heaps more horsepower. My 1999 NB rag roof is just so much fun to drive in the Twisties, it's a big go kart, a little tight in the driving position but any more space and I'd be getting chucked about. Being super reliable and it fits like a glove, is 100% fun, definitely no world beater but lives up to everything it says on the label.
@andybowie8590
@andybowie8590 20 күн бұрын
I was literally just having a debate about the mx5 with Mr 'twin cam', he posted something saying how great the mx5 was and I respectfully disagreed as I said they were under powered. His point was it's all about handling. My point was you can't enjoy the corners on most country roads because you're stuck behind another car that you don't have the power to get past. Pretty much exactly what you pointed out. It's worth remembering that the base car which yours was based on was the 160bhp 2.0, most of the NC's sold were the 1.8 with 125bhp. Last time I looked there were 2 x 2.0 litres for sale on gumtree and about 50 1.8's. In the end I didn't buy another mx5 I bought a 3.0 z4, 230bhp, and cheaper than buying a mx5 and modding it.
@handbrakebob
@handbrakebob 20 күн бұрын
I agree to a point - overtaking is when I wish my NC had more power. But I owned a 3.0 Z4 for a while… Yep, loads more straight line performance, but the chassis is numb and unresponsive compared to the Mazda’s. Horses for courses - I’d much rather take the Z4 on a long road trip, but the Mazda is infinitely more fun to chuck down a B-road.
@nagylevi3827
@nagylevi3827 19 күн бұрын
I think that comparing it to the older models is a moot point at this time. In my opinion, this is the only one of the three that can realistically be driven as a daily, with parts more readily available and with the reliability of a newer car. Also, with this kit you've mentioned, some of that softness and sluggishness are negated and, for someone who hasn't sampled the earlier models, it'll feel great. In short, personally, I'd have one of these instead of the old ones any day of the week.
@photosbyernesto9621
@photosbyernesto9621 20 күн бұрын
I had a Mk1 (NA Series-3 1.8L) soft-top which was just brilliant! The only mod I had done was to upgrade the rotors and pads to competition spec, with braided lines, so I could do some track days. The lightness and connectedness was sublime! Yes, it wasn't super powered, but I just used the gears and drove it on the rev-limiter a lot. I could drift it rally-flick style through the big double lane roundabouts with the tail hanging out at the limit Hoonigan fashion! Punting it through the twisty stuff on the Black Spur or the Great Ocean Road (Victoria, Australia) was just grin inducing stuff!
@tameracingdriver
@tameracingdriver 20 күн бұрын
Hi Jack - this is a great review, my last car was an NC BBR Super 200, and previously to that owned an NA Eunos RS Limited (standard-ish). You honestly hit the nail on the head in every point of this review. I wasn't interested in a standard NC as I knew it would just feel too tame. The BBR kit really wakes it up, and put it on a par with the NA for me. I agree though that while the BBR Super 200 had just enough power, I wouldn't have minded a bit more. The handling was great as well, mine had Eibach springs and a full geo. However, I'd definitely say out of the box the NA was a better drive, and even though 70 bhp down on the NC BBR S200, I reckon just as much fun. If I could have either again, I'd have the NA, but the NC with this kit is a great option.
@simonbuckingham752
@simonbuckingham752 20 күн бұрын
My sister had a Mk3 and really liked it though it suffered from rust in a few places unfortunately.
@ca9968
@ca9968 20 күн бұрын
Change the air filter, get a 53mm free flow exhaust installed and slap in a UniChip piggy back ECU, get it tuned correctly and you`ll have a very capable little N/A sports car...
@handbrakebob
@handbrakebob 20 күн бұрын
The reputation of the NC seems to have been founded on the early cars (NC1) which were high, soft, poorly set-up from the factory and (depending on your eye) a bit clunky to look at. The later cars (NC2 and NC3 from late 2009 onwards) are very different. My NC2 is a joyous thing to drive. I’ve got some other well regarded and faster drivers’ cars in my fleet but it’s always the MX5’s keys I’ll choose when I want to go for a proper drive.
@Ifitwerks
@Ifitwerks 20 күн бұрын
Totally agree have had a NC1 and now have 2 2012 2.0 NC2s one soft top and one folding roof both have less than 9k on their clocks The soft top with its 5 speed box is the better car for spirited driving and feels lighter specially in the bends, The hard top with its 6 speed box is still a great drive but feels more suited to sport touring, what amazes me is that when driven back to back the difference is quite noticeable The NC2 from 2009 on had major improvements both to the engine and suspension addressing the often spoke about issues Just need to keep them rust free!
@mattb4353
@mattb4353 20 күн бұрын
Good review, but you didn't mention the BBR supercharger kit that's also available for the NC. I'd like to see you drive one of those.
@simonhjc
@simonhjc 20 күн бұрын
It sounds fabulous imo. Re the mk1 etc differences- we live in a tourist area of the blue mountains and many car clubs come along Bells line of road, the demographic of the drivers is interesting. Its the young ones in the mk1s and its retirees in the current mx5 just saying. As for kits, i had a 2006 wrx sti with an MRT enhancement kit. 220kw at the wheels. Car ran semi slicks, but apart from that looked stock in sliver. It was a weapon. The mx5 kit really has made a difference to that car. Thanks Jack. Each video is a trip down mamory lane for me 👍
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 20 күн бұрын
The facelifts were always better. NB2 and NC2. NC2 had the higher revving engine and suspension updates
@francobanzini665
@francobanzini665 20 күн бұрын
I have a Super 200 with Meister coil overs - no nasty holes cut to adjust them! Brilliant fun on B roads and surprisingly quick. There was one on eBay this week. It’s the least powerful car I own but still a joy to drive
@johnmac8084
@johnmac8084 20 күн бұрын
I think it's a good compromise for the extra comfort in the cab, and convenience of the folding hardtop. Sounds great at higher revs as well. Effortless low down torque is great in an executive saloon, but I want a sports car to howl a bit.
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 20 күн бұрын
An interesting upgrade for an MX5. You wouldn't want something that made it rev constantly within an inch of it's life so this seems to be a good choice. I agree a turbo might spoil the 'charm' of the car, more 'boy racer' perhaps? At least with a hard top you could feel more secure if that is one of your 'wish list' items but yes there will be a bit more weight. Great review Jack thank you. 👍👍
@007JHS
@007JHS 17 күн бұрын
We have had three mk1 mx5s and now have a mk3 nc.... They have all been great cars... the Mk3 with its automatic 6 speed powershift is great.
@kevincoombs7348
@kevincoombs7348 18 күн бұрын
Loved my NB. Had it (almost ) from new, it always put a smile on my face. Eventually my wife could fall into it but not get out, so it had to go. Worst decision of my motoring life...
@zogzoogler
@zogzoogler 20 күн бұрын
I wish I still had my RX7 FB it would be a great car for you to review. The direct link to the MX5 (same wheelbase, same Lotus Elan stylng, same raw simple lightweight fun approach). Nice work Jack.
@josephkelly4893
@josephkelly4893 20 күн бұрын
Miss my MX5, you have motivated me to go shopping for one again
@norwegianzound
@norwegianzound 3 күн бұрын
By far the best looking mx5
@gripshaft
@gripshaft 17 күн бұрын
I have a 2007 NC with the BBR Super 200 kit plus the stage 2 Rotrex super charger, as well as the BBR suspension and brake upgrades etc. It now puts out nearly 300 bhp and it's still a very driveable car... but it's also pretty angry if you poke it. I use it for track days, hill climbs and of course, some sunny Sunday blasts. It's completely irrational but it's also properly epic.
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 20 күн бұрын
I've driven the mk1 mx5 and it was fantastic! A really fun car, like most cars as the mk's go on mk2-mk3 and so on they get bigger and heavier it's a shame!
@lassydogpie5390
@lassydogpie5390 19 күн бұрын
It’s not the least loved it’s actually the favourite nowadays
@TheKsharm
@TheKsharm 20 күн бұрын
Jack been waiting for this one. Certainly makes my yearn for a bit more power, I have the 1.8 and it's stock, though a later car so hopefully less reliability issues as the early cars suffered. Certainly on a b road it's excellent in the corners but yep meet a slow car and overtaking is quite risky when there's not much left under your foot. Excellent review and quite fair, it is bigger and heavier than the earlier cars. It's worth mentioning that this is basically because it's on a shortened rx8 chassis because during its development ford held the purse strings and they simply would not allow a development from scratch as it was too expensive. Looks are subjective but in my opinion the later cars got less cute and better looking and they sit lower stock as certainly the first NCS are like 4x4s they sit so high.
@seanoneillsongs
@seanoneillsongs 20 күн бұрын
I had a 12 year old Eunos Roadster - it was a 1990. I loved that car and put about 170000 kilometres on it over a little over two years. My brother bought a much newer NC with the folding hardtop - he’s a bit precious about it and I have yet to drive it but, while the interior is a bit more ‘grown up’, in the passenger seat it felt really cramped - barely enough leg room and all the extra safety stuff and probably the space the hardtop took up, not a place I would like to spend a lot of time in. My NA never felt like that - even with my guitar resting on top of the folded hood. Oh, I miss that car. The brother loves his and I didn’t share my impressions with him.
@cam3002
@cam3002 19 күн бұрын
I've had the opportunity to drive every generation of MX5's on the track in various state of tune. They all have their pros and cons but the common theme is that they are great track cars for the money and respond well to low cost and simple modifications. Two things specifically on the NCs that was not mentioned is that there is a kit to make the power steering less power/have more feel. Makes a big difference in the feedback of the car. And upgrading the limited slip differential is worth the effort if using it on the track. Helps the car become much more stable in fast turns. Both of these modifications take nothing away for street manners.
@paulriggers1558
@paulriggers1558 20 күн бұрын
it is interesting watching you learning to drive, you are definitely getting better... never driven a hard-top, rest feel ok to me, yes, a bit lardy, but still a good drive turbo would be interesting, but it might not suit it's point+ squirt feel keep it up young man
@katywalker8322
@katywalker8322 20 күн бұрын
The weight differences are less than the figures would suggest as the way the weight is measured for homologation in Europe has changed (think the high weight for an NC is the ‘mass in running order’ which includes a 75kg driver and a 90% full fuel tank - while for the NA it is far more unrealistic - hence the ~200kg difference the raw figures give). Realistically the difference is about 1/3 what is generally claimed. Add a basic roll over bar to an NA and a stereo (given pretty much all will have these fitted by now and the NC has these as standard) and there is little difference. From one of the MX5 forums where they were weighed on the same equipment, NA was 1048kg and the NC was 1124kg. Looks wise,I like the NA but only when in good condition, but shape doesn't seem to cope well with looking tatty (bumpers warping with age, etc). NC looks almost as good, with the later NC (revised lights, bumpers, mirrors, etc) looking better. To me NB looks worse than both and ND I am not a fan of (I do like the Fiat version). The MX5 is aimed at a market where outright light weight and performance is not the main factor. If you want those from a convertible then buy an Elise! It is a blend of being fun and useable.
@BenMarshall-co3uu
@BenMarshall-co3uu 13 күн бұрын
Hi Jack great weather and video as ever! Like this mx 5 because it has a Ford engine! This one has the 2.0 from the Fiesta ST itself a detuned version of the good old Focus ST170 and you will know that this engine is the basis for the Mk 1 Focus RS (my favourite!) I think the styling is reminiscent of the S2000 Honda in a way. I like this one more than the current one, and the daft shirt lived fiat counterpart , which together with the daft Mitsubishi L200 pick up clone I can’t remember the name of . I’d have a turbo one , that particular one was very nice though. Ben
@reeceagland1980
@reeceagland1980 20 күн бұрын
Love the way they look. BBR Kit seems worthy addition to address, the relative, plump.
@garethmcrae668
@garethmcrae668 20 күн бұрын
That sentence is a thing of beauty! Something about the commas, on paper superlative, makes it flow like an Eminem line.
@martinehrlich3908
@martinehrlich3908 20 күн бұрын
I love my 1964 “MX5”
@simondrew7346
@simondrew7346 6 күн бұрын
I have a 2010 NC with BBR’s supercharger conversion, 300-hp is too much really but it’s good fun 😂
@gsigs
@gsigs 19 күн бұрын
The only day of the year when Jack can drive in shorts and shirt sleeves, and he gets a convertible. Coincidence?
@jmarthecorkes
@jmarthecorkes 20 күн бұрын
Interesting review. Maybe a Super 225 would be the answer for just a bit more power whilst being normally aspirated? The downside being that the pricing gets close to that for turbo or supercharger options.
@robertlloyd7493
@robertlloyd7493 20 күн бұрын
😊 great work Jack.
@gpajic1987
@gpajic1987 20 күн бұрын
I've had NA, NB, and 2 NC - the NC chassis is miles ahead
@oldatarigamer
@oldatarigamer 4 күн бұрын
The NC won Top 10 Cars from Car & Driver 8X, which is more than any other generation.
@davidstenhouse5908
@davidstenhouse5908 20 күн бұрын
Sounds like a proper sports car!
@RubyRoseLee
@RubyRoseLee 20 күн бұрын
I owned one (NC) sunlight silver hard top back in 2008. I bought it as a “love at first sight”.. drove it as a daily. Note I drove it only in sunny day because I had not once close the roof! NOT ONCE.. I sold it in 2011 when my MB SLS (C197) finally arrived.. I remember clearly that I was living like a teenage girl in my MX5 suddenly become a late 30s woman (ie the real me) feeling all grown up and serious and stuffy.. i always looking for similar design that will make me feel young again.. finally in 2018 I bought GTC Roadster (R190) which i quite enjoy BUT it is huge car, heavy and very powerful almost too powerful and overwhelming for me. Plus it is too loud visually for me to feel safe to drop the top in the inner city. It is certainly not a daily car for me… yeah I am trying to say is simple fun and good looking cars are not easy to come by. Cherish what you got. I regret selling mine back then.
@christian-van-e
@christian-van-e 20 күн бұрын
I just sold my great white NC 2 months ago: nice car!
@peterbonnez
@peterbonnez 13 күн бұрын
That's exactly the car I'm looking for, NC, BBR, Blue, Hard top.
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video! I think this is the nicest-looking MX-5! 🙂
@NZ_ADL
@NZ_ADL 20 күн бұрын
Nice package, But damn is that a rough cut around the coilovers. Hopefully that was the owners personal job and not the work of BBR. At least make a clean circle or sumn. But very nice package. Sorry for the rant
@spencerbarratt7421
@spencerbarratt7421 20 күн бұрын
Yes that was not BBR that did the coilover install!
@dougknight1720
@dougknight1720 20 күн бұрын
Interesting. BBR are a great tuning company and it’s great that the power and fun have been restored. I had an early MK1 which I restored but sadly just didn’t have enough room in for me.
@kevingreen8581
@kevingreen8581 20 күн бұрын
Great video Jack, thanks.
@michaelmccann4706
@michaelmccann4706 20 күн бұрын
Another good Jack review. Any updates on the De Tomaso Pantera?
@PatrickHostler
@PatrickHostler 20 күн бұрын
I have an ND, but for me, personally the NB is my least favorite… I always really liked the NC version
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 20 күн бұрын
From a personal perspective my biggest issue was the ND was simply that as a tall person and former NA owner, I could not fit comfortably in the car without my left knee hard up against the dash.
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 20 күн бұрын
Great little cars, looks like a worthwhile upgrade at that price.
@MegaWayfarer
@MegaWayfarer 20 күн бұрын
Please do an supercharged NC preferably NC2 or later.
@robsmith2851
@robsmith2851 20 күн бұрын
Would you invest the cash modifying an nc or pick another model? Based on same overall spend for a good condition car? I used to have a very modified na mk1 and loved it. Keen to get another
@erikschuddeboom3223
@erikschuddeboom3223 20 күн бұрын
That gen just needs suspension and a sport alignment. Makes it a deal. I’m on my fourth NA Miata, love it.
@f35500
@f35500 20 күн бұрын
I quite like turbo or supercharged Mx5 a it fills in the gaps and stop it bogging down in the corners I enjoy my Mx5 as much as my Porsche brought mainly just for track days as to risky in the Porsche but great on county lanes
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 20 күн бұрын
Sound good as well !
@grahamhaynes7658
@grahamhaynes7658 19 күн бұрын
Learning to drive,using the brakes less or not at all is what these cars are about.
@JohnButler-iq8rl
@JohnButler-iq8rl 19 күн бұрын
Great video 😊. Im in a quandary at the moment with my 06 nc which has the meister r coilovers and a racing beat exhaust----absolutely fabulous car and love it to bits but after post covid redundancy having to use it for a much longer commute----my dream would be too itb it and use as a weekend toy and just buy a toyota yaris for daily---but would the itb be worth the extra 40 bhp over it's dynoed 185 bhp from 2018-----any thoughts would be appreciated 😊.
@ax13h
@ax13h 20 күн бұрын
My NA6 with manual steering and AC was 940Kg on the scales.
@ochayethegnu2915
@ochayethegnu2915 20 күн бұрын
The soft top does make a difference. I’d have thought that having more depth and needing more effort to extract the best sound like virtues to me. I love my 07 Sport which is stock apart from Meister R CRDs. I’ve owned it from new and feel like I know it inside out. I can’t imagine not having it.
@genzigzag
@genzigzag 20 күн бұрын
I've looked into the BBR Super 225 kit which adds ITB's with exchange rates it gets very pricey and would cost $10k 🇨🇦 installed, makes it difficult to justify.
@eric-wb7gj
@eric-wb7gj 20 күн бұрын
Thanks Jack 🙏🙏
@andrewpreston4127
@andrewpreston4127 20 күн бұрын
Well, I own a Mk1 MX5, and think the interior is nothing to apologize for. Nor do I think it's less than 'grown up'. For me, it's got everything you need in terms of a traditional sports car. The Mk3 ? I just think the interior reflects the era in which it was introduced. I quite like the looks, actually. It's just the bomb-scare engines of the Mk3 that put me off. Ford influence again, as I recall ?
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 20 күн бұрын
It's nowhere near as nice as a Mark 3. Yes I had a Mark 1 and a Mark 2 before.
@MatthewJohnCrittenden
@MatthewJohnCrittenden 20 күн бұрын
Yup, got a bone stock NA and it's never seemed cheap to me. Maybe it is but I'm too busy enjoying myself ;)
@honda4185
@honda4185 8 күн бұрын
It looks really good in that color. Sadly it sounds like a Honda Civic ricer with that exhaust and i don't think it suits the car.. i would have it sound more deep than raspy/loud from what i hear in video. Great video 👍
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 19 күн бұрын
A good review of the Mazda MX5 NC with the BBR 200 kit. However I'm somewhat puzzled by your claim that the original Mazda MX5 NA is a better car. The said BBR has a power to mass ratio of circa 132kW/tonne versus the NA version which has 86 kW/tonne which is 53% increase which is very significant. Also noteworth is the BBRs torque of 226 Nm which is a 66% increase over the NA's paltry 136 Nm. Having owned a NA Mazda, I don't consider its overall performance to be in the 'sports car class' - although I really did enjoy the car especially its handling.
@davidmbell
@davidmbell 20 күн бұрын
Had a Winning Blue 2005 NC - (ie prior to the really lardy NC mk3.5 where they introduced the folding hard top). Mine had Bilstein shocks and a RoadsterSport exhaust. Not more power but sounded better. I like the idea of the BBR kit, but the MX-5 isn’t about power, it’s the package.
@lassydogpie5390
@lassydogpie5390 19 күн бұрын
35kg isn’t Lardy lol.. it’s a much better car
@Cloud-yp4eh
@Cloud-yp4eh 20 күн бұрын
Love my 2011 MX5 on Meister r club sports. I had to hide my eyes Jack when I saw how the owner has hacked into the strut brace to see the front damper adjusters !
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 19 күн бұрын
Interesting - as I to formed a grimace when I saw the hacked 'cut-out'. I understand why it was done, however it could have been manufactured with a 'little more grace'.
@Cloud-yp4eh
@Cloud-yp4eh 19 күн бұрын
I used a step drill on mine and sprayed with black paint. Looks factory. Apart from the meisters top adjuster obviously
@BenBackhouse-cy8ec
@BenBackhouse-cy8ec 19 күн бұрын
I test drove one of these a couple of years back as a weekend car. I really wanted to like it but found it just too slow after being spoilt by a big turbo engine. Ended up with a supercharged Elise instead, admittedly at much more money. Interestingly all of the BBR turbo converted cars for sale seem to have been done relatively recently. I have a feeling they dont really suit the car and the owners don't get on with them and sell up soon afterwards. Not sure about supercharged conversions as they appear very rarely for sale.
@JonMurray
@JonMurray 18 күн бұрын
Served my time with Mazda and it was a sad day when this thing turned up as the Mk2 replacement. Cheap and tacky plastic everywhere and it absolutely does not feel solid and well put together hahah! In comparison to the classy, quality upholstered Mk2 interior this is the one you have to apologise for. The exterior is absolutely revolting (this is subjective I know) and to top it off they dumped a ford engine in it! Along with various other ford bits splattered throughout! This car was literally the death of the Japanese made, quality built MX5. It requires more work to make it feel like the original cars because it’s not an MX5! Mad chat today mate.
@ClellBiggs
@ClellBiggs 20 күн бұрын
It certianly sounds good.
@geoffwallis8588
@geoffwallis8588 20 күн бұрын
I have a ND MX5 with the 1.5 130 bhp engine and its like a terrier that’s eaten a tube of smarties. It’s fun revs like hell and you will smile like a fool with out loosing your license. I think all MX5 are great in there own right the NC offers a slightly different approach to the early cars but is easier to live with daily.
@keiththewheelman
@keiththewheelman 20 күн бұрын
My base '99 nb weighs 2299 accoreding to the sticker on the door frame.
@jamesmustin7289
@jamesmustin7289 15 күн бұрын
This size car is a dying breed. Forget electric with is car. I always joke about the electric being four doors with a no speed transmission
@jscan5385
@jscan5385 20 күн бұрын
Would be cool if you tested a turbo version Jack 👍
@paulelverstone8677
@paulelverstone8677 20 күн бұрын
I always thought that the NC was ripe for the V6. Mazda tried with the more muscular styling but it came across as a bit limp. More Elvis in his Vegas years. I'm sure it wasn't. I'm sure if you'd never had a sports car then the NC would be just great and certainly more composed than earlier cars. But the V6 would've given it a new lease and there was one, just sitting on the shelf in their factories. Personally, I was never struck on the mk2/2.5. Similar issues, only this time of less better looking and more weight. I had the NA 1.6 - later with a turbo. That was a good car but the extra power didn't make it more fun - just quicker. Mazda were guilty of the same thing that Toyota were with the MR2 or even Ford with the Mustang; that more was better. Different, yes, but better? so subjective. My MR2 AW11 was the best of the lot. All imho...