Say Goodbye To These Legendary Trains

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Say Goodbye To These Legendary Trains

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😢 These trains are on borrowed time!
⚪️ The InterCity 225 sets will soon be replaced by LNER for a new fleet of vehicles which will run alongside their existing Asuka range.
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@tornado1986cw 7 ай бұрын

Probably one of my favourite locomotives of all time

@trainsonthebrain 7 ай бұрын

Same, fantastic machines!

@PreservationEnthusiast 7 ай бұрын

Scrapping is the best thing. They are 30 years old. We have far better technology available now.

@trainsonthebrain 7 ай бұрын

@@PreservationEnthusiast boooo!

@PreservationEnthusiast 7 ай бұрын

@@trainsonthebrain You have to love the trimodes. Futuristic looking and cutting down on carbon emissions. Versatile in storage and carriage siding areas. Something for the 21st C.

@moelSiabod14334 6 ай бұрын

@@PreservationEnthusiast These modern things will not last 30 years, what is needed is something which is up to the job in hand , rugged and above all reliable. An updated electric version of the HST would be a step forward.

@xander1052 6 ай бұрын

RIP the 225, best trains in the UK

@FranzTraininand 6 ай бұрын

The ride on the 225 is superior to that of the Azuma from my experience. Also another thing I noticed is when the trains go through the station at full chap, the 225 is quieter than the Azumas. The Azumas are noticeably louder from outside

@GooseWaffe 6 ай бұрын

Fancy seeing you here

@soundseeker63 6 ай бұрын

They're not gone....yet! I will be sad when they do though. The loss of HSTs from the ECML has been hard to take and when these go that will be the final nail in the coffin for long distance travel on the ECML as far as I'm concerned. I will drive to London from then on.

@Shipnerd194 6 ай бұрын

I hope a heritage railway steps up and saves a 225. If they saved pacers then they can save these!

@soundseeker63 6 ай бұрын

One will be going to the NRM collection and I'm sure another will go to the AC Loco Group but keeping AC electrics running is a much more complex and expensive task than keeping some crappy DMU plodding away on some quiet preserved line at 30mph.

@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial 2 ай бұрын

@@soundseeker63 Thankfully, there's an organisation aptly named "225 Group" that are planning to preserve a full set for charter use.

@soundseeker63 6 ай бұрын

Arguably the ONLY truly comfortable and refined intercity trains left on the UK network now. The 800s are inferior in so many ways. LNER needs to keep these going!

@restojon1 6 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more, I was looking forward to trying the 800 but when I travelled from London to Bath on one it was utterly awful, both of it's predecessors were far more comfortable and a nicer ride. All they needed to do was give them a spruce up internally every now and then and they would have been golden 👌 Thing is, I'm 6' 2" and 23 stone, I have broad shoulders so I'm always a bit limited on public transport but the 43 and 91 stock accommodated my size well, even my clown sized feet by the tables😅 By the time I'd got down to Bath on that ridiculous 800 I was in agony and on the way back I stood for most of the journey. I remember the introduction of the "225" and as a keen young spotter I would stare into Ilford depot and watch the nearby mainline as these would occasionally blast through breaking the monotony of 86's and 47's dragging the Intercity sets. Happy memories for an old geezer

@seemorebeer2848 6 ай бұрын

I HELPED BUILD THESE IN 1987 IN CREWE LOCO WORKS.

@S-CB-SL-Animations 6 ай бұрын

Cool!

@scotishguy 6 ай бұрын

Nah

@LingLiu2014 5 ай бұрын

I remember those Intercity trains I rode one from Reading to Glasgow back in 1989 during school half term. We didn't get a bed compartment as they were fully booked so we slept in the seats.

@joshlang6442 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been on one of them, didn’t think it was the right train and was a special train reserved for first class passengers. I love those trains.

@MancTrainGuy 6 ай бұрын

The trains were some of the most beautiful ever 😢

@MatiEP09 6 ай бұрын

No way. I'm over here in Poland, waiting for my opportunity to travel to the UK. When I get there, there will be nothing left of what I wanted to see there

@Huskuber 6 ай бұрын

Just brought a 225, runs beautifully on my track

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

A model or full size 😁

@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 6 ай бұрын

I like going to see my friend in Chester cos I get to go on one of these little local jobs and there is just something inexplicably satisfying when it rolls up to a stop at the platform in Crewe and you happen to be stood right next to the wonderfully blued huge stainless steel exhaust. I think they must be powered by something really modern and sophisticated - probably German, probably MTM - the idle is perfectly even and quiet - yet hunky - and it moves away from rest without so much as a wisp of clag from those enormous exhausts and a most pleasantly definite and refined throb from presumably something pretty big with 12 or 16 cylinders and a hefty shove which is a world away from the filthy, clattering, interminable haul away from standstill at each of the stops from King's Lynn to Liverpool Street 😂❤

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

King’s Lynn is my old stomping ground! Good times!

@Musicalmane 6 ай бұрын

I hope, at the very least, that one gets saved for display somewhere if they haven't already.

@RailwayWorld_2023 6 ай бұрын

My favourite trains, such an amazing design :) I once travelled in the cab of a 91 out of Kings cross and that was the best day of my life! Shame when they eventually retire, going to try and get out on them whilst I can :)

@RailwayWorld_2023 6 ай бұрын

Well done to the 91s for 35 years of reliable service on the East Coast

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Amazing I would love to have had a cab ride!

@RTTrainProductions 6 ай бұрын

2027 is the expected withdrawal time with likeliness of that date being extended.

@OnTheRailwayOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Starts withdrawal this year.

@RTTrainProductions 6 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRailwayOfficial aye that makes sense. There will be at least a few which go on for longer tho.

@soundseeker63 6 ай бұрын

I think/hope LNER have realised these trains are popular with customers and enthusiasts alike. Once they do go and the entire ECML fleet is IETs I will have no interest in travelling or spotting on that line. And I know I'm not alone in that sentiment.

@RTTrainProductions 6 ай бұрын

@@soundseeker63yea true they’re one of the last long distance loco hauled trains in this country pretty much alongside the WAG sets for TFW, CH 68s aswell as GWR and SR HSTs. And then ig you can also include the Caledonian and the Night Riviera. Hard to find loco hauled stock in the north these days 😂

@TheYouTubechannels632 6 ай бұрын

They are here until ERTMS roll out. None slated to go this year.

@transportationuk7656 6 ай бұрын

With these new Tri-mode units I hope the Kings Cross to Cleethorpes service comes back. I heard that one of the disused platforms at Cleethorpes might be coming back into use. I’m not certain though. I’d like to see a 4th platform at Cleethorpes. Cleethorpes will get more tourists from London and that will be great for local businesses.

@anathema2me4EVR 6 ай бұрын

Intercity 125 will always be the best.

@garethdavies2691 6 ай бұрын

I miss 225 Intercity best one 😢

@LostieTrekieTechie 6 ай бұрын

Aw, the blocky angles will be missed

@busmanbrett135 6 ай бұрын

RIP both intercities, the most loved trains in the UK.

@Slipperyisimproving 6 ай бұрын

Its soon to be the end of the line for the Intercity 225 trains. They should be preserved.

@annatrindall9829 6 ай бұрын

Damn right they should be preserved. Some of the class 91's are iconic such as 91101 flying Scotsman and 91110 battle of Britain memorial flight.

@timdurham2080 6 ай бұрын

I hope the seats are better than the Azuma ones.

@durhsy414 5 ай бұрын

Look at all the creativity n fantastic machines we used to have, all had their own identity n everyone has a memory attached to them. Those plastic generic nee things just scream “busy London commute”. We used to be a great country.

@halfbakedproductions7887 6 ай бұрын

I use LNER quite a lot and since late 2019 I've only had one journey that wasn't an Azuma. It looks as if the InterCity sets don't do the usual Edinburgh KGX mainline route, instead they start and stop at random places like Grantham and terminate at York. I've seen them parked at Peterborough a few times. I remember my first trip on an Azuma and wasn't impressed. The aisle was so narrow, the member of staff running the Standard cafe bar was also on his first Azuma trip and didn't know how to operate the equipment (true story), and the toilets were backing up.

@rikkilamb 6 ай бұрын

The 225s mostly work KGX-LDS

@dornailyt756 7 ай бұрын

I’m gonna miss these amazing trains 😢😢😢

@cathyreed7881 6 ай бұрын

I liked the 125 , we always were going somewhere nice on them.❤

@user-eq9yl4si2j 6 ай бұрын

I miss the Deltics

@nicholasmcveigh9879 6 ай бұрын

These old trains,,,I hope you agree,,, The seats were more than comfortable, Like an armchair at home,,, Anyway if anyone has been on one of these new trains,, please let everybody else know. THANKS

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@JackFitzsimmonsZondaFan 6 ай бұрын

Love the 225 trains, I shall miss them dearly, I also love the GTA 5 wasted reference in the video.

@roberthayes1996 6 ай бұрын

My favorite train by far. Really sad to see them go. The Azumas are total crap by contrast. I use LNER a lot and the Azuma was a mistake. A very hard ride and noisy with harsh lighting and broken everything. And they’re new.

@soundseeker63 6 ай бұрын

I agree the IETs are a very poor replacement and it's a double shame because those were all criticisms leveled at the GWR IETs on introduction and yet none of those faults were addressed for the subsequent builds. Disappointing to say the least!

@grassytramtracks 4 ай бұрын

@@soundseeker63 to be fair, Lumo and EMR have put better seats in. Even amongst the GWR sets, the interiors are quite variable, some feel like they're made of cardboard glued together, rattling around and ride like a wobbly tea trolley making it difficult to walk without holding on when at speed

@darrishng6540 7 ай бұрын

It's absolutely sad to hear this news. 😢 Nothing will stay forever. Time will kill everything we fond of

@Thetransitchannel-bw3vu 6 ай бұрын

The tri-mode trains might become famous and get replaced by something else. It would be a weird coincidence

@physiocrat7143 6 ай бұрын

Very quickly if the Nova3 are anything to go by.

@TristansTrains-lz5xb 7 ай бұрын

Nooooooooooooo!! These are my favourite trains 😭😤

@TheEerieMaster 6 ай бұрын

For years of service ya get scrapped 😃 THE CIRCLE OF LIFE

@MancTrainGuy 3 ай бұрын

The class 91 could probably last another 30 years

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

It could - here's hoping they get a reprieve with other operators somehow.

@stevem-h3562 6 ай бұрын

they've definitely got more life in them....

@boosteraxledoesstuff2769 6 ай бұрын

I hope they are given a chance at becoming freight engines when they retire since in tandem two should provide enough power!

@Society_is_Fucked 6 ай бұрын

One of the best trains Britain built pre privatisation. Also has one of the best and loudest horns.

@PianoKwanMan 6 ай бұрын

The IC225 is wonderful.

@smudgycat6750 7 ай бұрын

'borowed time' that how a lease works

@bbalila 6 ай бұрын

Donate old Rails to museums or donate to developing countries.

@OllieMJT_27 7 ай бұрын

I already been on one, In their silver east coast livery

@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial 2 ай бұрын

Thankfully, the IC225's won't be going just yet. After LNER retires them, there's a possibility they might be going to a new open-access intercity operator named Grand Union, but that plan's been temporarily suspended indefinitely, and they're going to use Voyagers and Meridians instead for the time being. But the MK4 coaches will be staying for a good while yet, as they could be transferred to TFW or Chiltern in future.

@DigitalDiabloUK 6 ай бұрын

I hope a set or two go into preservation

@glen1555 6 ай бұрын

Give them to East Midlands Rail to use on the St Pancras to Sheffield routes.

@jammiedodger7040 6 ай бұрын

There’s probably a couple already in preservation.

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Two/three all but confirmed for National Collection.

@bensguitarcovers2849 6 ай бұрын

They will no doubt be in preservation and the national railway museum will no doubt have one or two 91s also may be a long shot but Pullman could re paint a set blue… but I don’t see that happening 😂😂😂😂

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

I think three of them are tied up for the National Collection already, which ix good news - I imagine one or two will be static exhibits at York/Doncaster potentially and then one will wind up at Crewe where it can continue to run.

@bensguitarcovers2849 6 ай бұрын

@@trainsonthebrain they have to put it next to the br blue 43 and have the 91 in the classic ic swallow I think that would look amazing as they are basically Britains most iconic modern ish high speed trains

@juanmontull8550 6 ай бұрын

CAF?! 😂 Funny to see British buying Spanish trains 🎉 Greetings 🇪🇦

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Hola!

@erikadelgaardnielsen9391 6 ай бұрын

No hate to 125 But the 225 Has always been my favourite Sad to see them go😢😢

@True_NOON 6 ай бұрын

Not more *_CANT_* *_AVOID_* *_FRACTURES_* 😭

@bigrstransport6783 6 ай бұрын

AWW AM GONNA MISS THOSE

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Me too!

@247Trains 7 ай бұрын

It’s the most sad thing in the world. This is just news to me now.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@Anzle9 6 ай бұрын

However a form of them will live on for a while in the form of tfw 67+half 225 sets

@F_ox. 6 ай бұрын

i dont know how they managed to make high speed trains STILL look british

@strodey123 6 ай бұрын

Would much rather be on a 225 than the azuma

@hamburger7478 6 ай бұрын

Getting replaced by CAF... 🤦🏻‍♂️😑

@SSccaanniiaa 7 ай бұрын

Oh come on! I'm wanting to see all the rare liverys on them! 😢

@wispypiano5230 6 ай бұрын

It's a shame for this to happen, these newer modern trains are taking over but imagine an OHLE preserved railway for electric locos

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

I’ve thought the same too about a third-rail preserved line. Sadly the costs for a volunteer-led society would just be far too much for it to ever happen along with the health/safety element of it. With OHLE, there is at least the Crewe heritage centre. For third rail, the East Kent Railway doesn’t have third rail but it does have a few third rail vehicles.

@monty2005 6 ай бұрын

I remember, not that long ago, deliberately booking trains from Nottingham to London that I knew would be bc HST trains. Because the HST was just better, more comfortable, just nicer

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

I do miss them!

@samuelsmith9586 6 ай бұрын

I've only ever seen a few at doncaster. I'll have to get out more to see these 225 legends!

@Its_an_advocardo 6 ай бұрын

I see them regularly in Leeds and the neville hill depot just outside the city centre

@EternallyDisappointed 6 ай бұрын

This is a real shame, given how much more comfortable they are than Azuma.

@gman83090 6 ай бұрын

In Australia we use an Australian version of the intercity 125 as the Sydney XPT and they still use the XPT to this date but they're going to be getting it replaced

@Martindyna 6 ай бұрын

Yes and due to a different exhaust system the XPT power cars sound great (VP185 engines) compared to the Class 43 with the same engines (although most if not all are now powered by MTU).

@Anonymous-hv9yw 6 ай бұрын

Im so lucky to see these suckers quite frequently. (Its Leeds btw 😉😉)

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Been a long time since I've been up to that neck of the woods but would love to head back at some point and grab some footage!

@mg05stewc 6 ай бұрын

Make our fleet more organised and less uncommon parts. Has the same amount of different units as before Plus the CAF stock will have cracks 6months in !

@nazmaster1 6 ай бұрын

They look so retro i hope they keep some for mesuem display

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

I believe some have been earmarked, which is lovely, hope that's true.

@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 6 ай бұрын

I wish I could have one shipped here to USA 🇺🇸

@denver-unflapack 7 ай бұрын

If lego made Trains!!! I thought the IC 125 was still going

@Captain_Yorkie1 7 ай бұрын

Scotrail, GWR, National Rail & Blue Pullman uses them plus the Mexicans

@generalsquirrel9548 6 ай бұрын

Should reintroduce steam on British railroads. Will attract alot of people if they hear there is a european country using steam for their main railways (Or reintroduce deltics) But rip 225

@WestRail642fan 6 ай бұрын

I completely forgot LNER ordered some CAF tri-modes

@physiocrat7143 6 ай бұрын

Are they CAFs? The manufacturer has not got a good record, to put it mildly.

@WestRail642fan 6 ай бұрын

@@physiocrat7143 Yes, they're going to be part of the CAF Civity family (hence why the render uses a unit like the 397s

@d4zz1e 6 ай бұрын

LNER are getting rid of them but havent TFW still got some for their "Premium" services?

@stephenskinner3851 6 ай бұрын

Why didn't the UK build it's replacement trains? Every other 'old' industrial country is capable of building it's own trains.

@chr1sda1sey 6 ай бұрын

Ideology and incompetence from the government

@Patchow 6 ай бұрын

No idea why they don’t have more 800s.

@bungieman2810 6 ай бұрын

Let's hope that diesel preservation becomes more prominent!

@muffinsplayer4579 6 ай бұрын

I have just seen 2 and they honked at me

@TheSouthWalesRailGuy 6 ай бұрын

Transport for Wales sitting in the background with their smaller sets: (in all seriousness the long 225 sets are definitely the ones that are sad to see go)

@10C45E 6 ай бұрын

nooo not the 225 :(

@MPDTransport 6 ай бұрын

Finally! No more jumpscare horns from class 91s 😊

@krazyjuicedan 6 ай бұрын

The 225s are soo much comfier to ride in.

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

Indeed they are!

@WhiffTheRubbishEngine1869 6 ай бұрын

Looks like my next trip to London will be via leeds

@joshsautisticrailwayadvent144 6 ай бұрын

Keep the 91s they’re the best Azumas are not half as strong

@TheRealTrains806UK 6 ай бұрын

Ok i need to visit ECML and not leaving until I see 1 or 2

@wcubbin 6 ай бұрын

When I think "express train" I think intercity 125

@trainspotter66 7 ай бұрын

Do you know roughly when they will be replaced?

@DENPTrains 7 ай бұрын

Likely 2027ish

@Caledonian905 6 ай бұрын

They’ve still got most of the Intercity 125s running, but they’re nearly 50 years old and yet they’re retiring the class 91s even though they’re nearly 35

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Most of the 125s have now been decommissioned - all of the LNER sets have been withdrawn for instance.

@mr.atomic2970 3 ай бұрын

So sad replacing good working reliable beautiful BR Stock with ugly modern unreliable trains.

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

Yep!

@flybobbie1449 6 ай бұрын

Did anyone ever take a cab and make simulator out of said.

@Manager_bob 6 ай бұрын

These people are making a poor decission

@_Ben4810 6 ай бұрын

Oh Geez.... Here's hoping LNER's procurement department don't make the same cost-cutting mistake they made when buying the Azumas with the worst of the worst uncomfortable Standard Class seating...👎👎👎

@richcatsinthewelder5232 6 ай бұрын

The Deltics were withdrawn a good few years before the 91s entered service. I would say I'll miss the 225s having grown up in Durham but a change of scene means I see plenty of MK4 stock where I live now and the 67s do look right with them.

@ClamTram96 6 ай бұрын

Whats the bet that the new caf sets will have issues with frame cracks and have some overly absurd long maintenance time?

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Very true, it'll be interesting to see how their initial testing etc goes!

@user-ps9fo1kj8e 6 ай бұрын

That's another great British train to be withdrawn from our main lines the problem is that privatisation has failed killing off these remarkable and reliable popular trains I've lost interest in today's modern railways I don't think that the azumors are not that great compared to the beautiful IC225 farewell 😞😞😞😞

@aaronmachon9127 6 ай бұрын

Intercity 225s are loud as fuck🤣

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

They do make a good racket don’t they 😂

@aaronmachon9127 6 ай бұрын

@trainsonthebrain was in York Station talking to someone, one pulled in, and it was like someone muted them🤣🤣

@ChineseTrainGuy 7 ай бұрын

NOOOOOOOO

@sodorflubbs5000 6 ай бұрын

We don’t get them up where I am. It’s mostly the Asumas

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

I don't hate the Azumas but it's a shame you don't get to see them where you are!

@ghostt742 6 ай бұрын

I thought they're already withdrawn 3 years ago like the 125 ☠️

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Some have and some have been scrapped 🥲

@neeha9449 6 ай бұрын

Which routes and times do they operate on? I wanna catch em while they're still on the lines

@trainsonthebrain 28 күн бұрын

Still running from King's Cross to Leeds and occasionally into York.

@railthefox1857 6 ай бұрын

The seats in the new trains are s*** and uncomfortable

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

Hopefully they get refitted over time. Some of the much malinged Thameslink units with their 'ironing board' seats are getting some refits.

@lgmjag9 6 ай бұрын

Where do these go from in london and what routes?

@trainsonthebrain 6 ай бұрын

They go from King’s Cross to Leeds and sometimes to York 🫡

@barrieshepherd7694 7 ай бұрын

Tri mode - what a joke! All that energy lost hauling tns of diesel and batteries around under the wires - then a similar situation when operating on the other power sources. Just electrify the railway in the UK and be done!

@moelSiabod14334 7 ай бұрын

Could not agree more, how much energy is going to be wasted dragging the other "modes" around for no reason. Ironically the 91s did run with a HST power car at the opposite end of the the sets when on trials, when the two were working the total HP for the set was 8 000 + and they were quick off the mark.

@josephpbrown 6 ай бұрын

We can't, middle management will ruin it _again_

@davidbull1914 6 ай бұрын

That would make sense so it won't happen....

@AMGitsKriss 7 ай бұрын

It's a shame the news ones aren't as comfortable.

@OnTheRailwayOfficial 6 ай бұрын

How do you know that? They don't even exist yet...

@AMGitsKriss 6 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRailwayOfficial There's loads of Class 800's running already on LNER, and the seats suck. I don't see why this next batch would be any different.

@OnTheRailwayOfficial 6 ай бұрын

@@AMGitsKriss They are not getting more class 80x's

@physiocrat7143 6 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Experience. Each generation of rolling stock is less comfortable than its predecessors. This has been the case since nationalisation.

@Sam-mv6rp 6 ай бұрын

If i think correctly although I may be wrong and excluding scot rail the only br locomotive familys still in passenger use will be the sprinter and networkers. I do wonder if Scot rail could use the 225s as they are still well within the service life of electric trains

@OnTheRailwayOfficial 6 ай бұрын

The 225s need to be scrapped. They are becoming more unsafe by the day.

@physiocrat7143 6 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Unsafe? Can you give details?

@OnTheRailwayOfficial 6 ай бұрын

@physiocrat7143 Sure. Basically, the body of these trains are suffering from severe corrosion and this has quite an adverse affect on the structural integrity making them more unsafe. Obviously due to numerous factors some of the sets are worse than others, hence why some units have already been scrapped. Personally I don't get why they felt the need to repaint the, if they will just get rid of them soon. Seems a little odd to myself, like a waste of money.

@physiocrat7143 6 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Thanks.These were, I believe, dual sourced from BREL and MetCam. That might have something to do with the corrosion. Funny because the Mark 3 Inter City stock was pretty much free from corrosion apart from the toilet areas; a survey was done for Porterbrook around 2010. The 455 mark 3 had terrible corrosion from the inside out due to condensation after 15 years but it was fixed in a repair scheme. I would have thought that by the time the Mark 4 was designed the corrosion problem had been cracked. Seemingly it was not. The last of the mark 1 stock had aluminium anti-corrosiom beading. They should have gone for corrugated stainless steel bodyshells like the Channel Tunnel car carriers and the Swedish X2000 trains which date from the same time and are having a refurb. Budd stainless cars from the 1950s are still giving good service. If they are not suffering from metal fatigue they can continue in service indefinitely. The mark 4 bogie design gives a dreadful ride but so do most recent designs. The last decent bogies are those on the class 158 units. It isn't a problem just in Britain; it is the same here in Sweden and the track gets smashed up as well as passengers' backsides.

@rikkilamb 6 ай бұрын

@OnTheRailwayOfficial It was to smarten them up. They had not had a repaint since 2010. If they were so bad then they wouldn't be in service.