Same here. The F125s look fantastic and sound amazing in person. They had some teething issues, but now that they've been sorted out, they seem to be really good units. Thanks for watching!

Hi LLP channel Ömer friend, greetings from İZMİR greater metropolitan city, 🇹🇷 TÜRKİYE. l also liked F125 power car. My favorite Locomotive GE GENESlS P42 in all the World

I live in Dallas, apparently the Trinity railway express here, who runs ex-GO transit EMD and Bombardier equipment that’s similar to Metrolinks equipment, is interested in F125s, or SC44s. May get them here in Texas.

It's an unpopular opinion but I really like the F125s. Especially the ones with the K3 backup horns.

THANK YOU!!!!! Amtrak should've picked the F125 over the ugly Charger! They could've at least gone with a locomotive that looked a bit more attractive! Just slap the F125 shell onto the SC-44 and that would've been enough! My expectations are like ankle-high here!

Nah. I see why companies buy Siemens varians. They looks more modern.

The F125 is junk, no one except Metrolink bought them for a reason

@@packr72 Ah yes. A week ago its breaking down again

SC-44 Is Better

The F125 accelerates better because it has 300 more hp and is geared for a 25mph lower top speed in Metrolink spec (100mph vs 125mph for the Charger).

Problem is, no one is ordering them and I think MPI stopped making them as GO Transit also stopped ordering them.

That locomotive has too much horsepower for down here and not many would like it plus metrolink can’t service them prob and Amtrak they don’t have the required max amount of speed.

⁠@sebastianfloyd9705um, the word CEM doesn't translate into engine types, CEM means Crash Energy Management not what type of engine it is.

Thanks Gary! Lots of people love the Chargers. I think the look kinda funny, but they sure do sound cool. Videos from the SoCal trip are next to be edited. Keep cool up there, see you in September!

@@TrainTrackTrav Well. I am watching American trains because of Charger. Never though its rival is so not good looking. Even Amtrak old locos way better on designs than this EMD

Metrolink has some steep grades on some lines. Also gives them better acceleration so they can compete a little better in terms of performance vs EMUs or electric locomotives. It also matters when they do get to really open the taps and run at their top speed (something F125s don't get to do, but Brightline runs their chargers at 125mph on a daily basis). These still only have about 60% of the power output of an electric locomotive, the ACS-64s that Amtrak uses in the northeast have 8600hp.

It ends up kinda a wash, the F125s in service are all geared for 100mph and never see more than 79mph in service. the SC-44s are geared for 125mph and might see 110mph on some midwestern and eastern routes (no Amtrak routes outside the NEC run at 125mph), ALC-42s have been tested on the NEC and had little trouble doing 125mph and the SCB-40s do 125mph on Brightline on a daily basis, but Brightline operates theirs in pairs at all times like an American version of the Uk class 43 HST. Brightline derated theirs because of always running in pairs and to better handle the Florida heat in summer.

Amen to that! The teething issues that Metrolink had with theirs really put a damper on things and on EMD's reputation. Hopefully another commuter company goes after them in the future.

@@TrainTrackTravif the F125 is a EMD why is it powered with a caterpillar diesel

@@jmream2618 For a few reasons. Mainly because none of the EMD two-stroke prime movers at the time were able to meet the tier 4 exhaust regulations. Since EMD is technically owned by Caterpillar, it only made sense for them to use the CAT C175 as the prime mover for the F125s.

I was actually hearing now the SC44s are having issues while the F125s run well lol.

@@TEMPLE7D As someone who spots near the Surfline I can confirm this. Loads of SCs are having issues to the point of multiple cancellations and even when the F125 do have some issues, it’s not too bad compared to the other engines

Yeppers! The F125s just have something about them that makes them a joy to be around. When one is idling in a station, they have a presence that can't be ignored. That being said, I miss the F59s like crazy. Lots of great memories of them from when I was a kid.

The F59s were bad ass

@@LucrativecrisI love the F59s from both Metrolink and Amtrak when I was growing up, it’s sad to see the Metrolink F59s go while SCAX 856, 861, 868 and 873 are still around today

The F125's aren't very reliable

Rumor has it MBTA is quickly electrifying its lines and will buy 2nd hand ACS-64s off Amtrak as the Airo sets enter service on the NEC.

Oh yes, good choice! A classy yet modern streamlined design.

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The C175-16 is what powers the British class 68s, which are considered the best sounding of pretty much any modern generation diesel locomotive. Downside is Stadler put a fairly loud exhaust on them so the 68s are quite loud while they do sound amazing.

The Charger and F125 are both designed to meet the loading gauge for Penn Station in NYC, that is why they're not that tall. That was done specifically to try to sell to Amtrak who listed meeting Penn station loading gauge as a hard requirement for all their new locomotives. Of course Siemens won the contract and EMD has only had one customer for the F125 ever. Sit them next to a GE P42 and you'll see they're about the same size as the P42s.

The tier 4 emission requirement was federal not CARB.

I'm glad you commented this. The C175-20 does indeed produce 4,700 horse power *at the shaft.* However, the F125 only puts 4,000 horses to the rail. Unlike diesel lomotives in the UK for example, American locomotives are HP rated at the rail, rather than at the shaft. Since we rate locomotive horse power at the rail, that's the number I put down.

@@TrainTrackTrav Cool, same applies to Cummins.

don't forget: both the Charger and the F125's prime movers are 4-stroke and are turbocharged. Additionally, they use alternating current traction motors.

Me too. An ALC-42/F125 consist would be amazing!

Caltrain is switching to electric, Stadler KISS double decker EMUs will be replacing their diesel fleet.

Yep, all the electronics they have don't like the cold, and those massive radiator intakes they have probably work a little too well in harsh conditions like that.

Apart from the Geman trucks and Spanish body shell, yes!

Ah yes. Break down again

EMD has used Siemens traction motors for years. The Charger uses a US built Cummins engine

@@TrainTrackTravDoes CAF make the F125 carbody? If so I'm amazed they haven't all cracked and fallen apart

@@mrvwbug4423 Thanks for info