Scales do NOT measure Weight!

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Contrary to popular belief, bathroom scales do not measure weight. Weight isn't a (Newtonian) force we can measure directly. What do scales actually measure? Let's find out with an experiment. [ Brilliant for 20% off: brilliant.org/ScienceAsylum ]
00:00 Cold Open
00:24 Planning the Experiment
01:03 What is Weight?
02:19 Astronauts are NOT Weightless
03:33 Apparent Weight
04:11 The Experiment
05:08 Conclusions
06:40 Buoyancy as a Factor
07:11 Summary
07:57 Outro
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@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a lot of confusion about "mass" and "weight." This is likely due to the fact that the English dictionary has many definitions for each of these words, so they often get used interchangeably in everyday conversation. Most of those definitions are irrelevant for this video because, in a discussion about physics, the physics definition (if it exists) always takes priority. So let's properly define our terms: *Mass - The amount of matter in an object. It's measured in kilograms or slugs.* In Newtonian mechanics, mass stays the same no matter where you are or what you're doing. If my clone is 75 kg on Earth, then he's also 75 kg in an accelerating elevator and in low-Earth orbit and in deep space. The amount of matter inside you doesn't depend on those things. *Weight - The force of gravity from a large object (like a planet). It's measured in pounds or newtons.* That's it. It's just what we call the force of gravity in the situation when one mass is much larger than the other. I defined it at 1:49. This definition can be found in any introductory physics textbook. I even posted a few pictures from those textbooks on Twitter: twitter.com/NickLucid/status/1410763207879368705 Weight is the same no matter what you're doing. In an elevator, my clone has a weight of 165 pounds regardless of acceleration. Weight is _not_ the same regardless of where you are. My clone is 165 pounds on the ground, but he's 140 pounds on the ISS,and he's zero pounds very far from larges masses like stars, planets, and moons. You have to get _really_ far away for this to be a factor though. The top floor of a building isn't far enough. In a building, weight doesn't change. *Which does a scale measure?* Neither. Mass isn't even a force, so there's no way a scale could measure it. _I didn't bring it up in the video because it wasn't relevant._ Since weight is a force, you might expect the scale could measure it, but it doesn't. Scales can only measure forces that require physical contact and weight isn't a contact force. Push scales measure normal force. Pull scales measure tension. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
@sameer26121980
@sameer26121980 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply. I think we were on the same page on mass and weight based on your reply. But again, regarding the scale measurement, don't you think the tension should be equivalent to the weight (force) as our body rests on it and is stationary? This can only happen when both forces due to gravity and opposing force exerted by scale are equal (This is when we consider tension measuring our weight is the ONLY force opposing our weight).
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 2 жыл бұрын
@The Science Asylum There are some mixed thoughts on how to define weight. You're correct, given your definition. I will stick with the normal force definition of weight because it's more useful, and it's likely what people usually mean by weight. On Earth's surface, weight is almost as invariant as mass, for all practical purposes, so I find it more useful to use a parameter that does significantly change.
@duprie37
@duprie37 2 жыл бұрын
Where I live we measure weight in kg 😉
@Wicky89
@Wicky89 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for all your vids I’m learning lots and there made really well. Question for a video maybe I’m just learning about electrons and solar power, what is the difference between AC and DC power? And if solar panels create dc current why do we convert it to AC and… do we lose power in transition would it be better to make dc powered appliances. Sorry for silly question never really learnt physics till started researching it recently and I just really want to understand how the hell everything around me works (like solar energy, batteries and “space time”) and why everyone else’s understands it but I don’t I should have done better in school :( Thanks.
@AwijeetRishav
@AwijeetRishav 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wicky89 i hope you are well, i hope i didn't disturb you by replying, as many a times people expect reply from content creator Well ac is easy to manipulate (control) But with newer tech, this difference will become bleak I am a Healthcare Professional by the way
@RasperHelpdesk
@RasperHelpdesk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which states that flying requires learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss...
@philochristos
@philochristos 3 жыл бұрын
That's the thought that went through my mind, too.
@ericwiddison7523
@ericwiddison7523 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out that's how to orbit. The important thing is for the astronauts to be regularly distracted so they forget to hit the ground on each orbit.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 3 жыл бұрын
like an orbit
@Krish-jm6ve
@Krish-jm6ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericwiddison7523 So how can weight be measured when you "feel" weightlessness ?
@ericwiddison7523
@ericwiddison7523 3 жыл бұрын
@@Krish-jm6ve My comment was about a series of jokes from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I wasn't commenting about weight at all, including what "weightless" means or how to measure it. But your question is an interesting one. You can't measure weight as a force, so you have to measure it by determining the acceleration vector that is attributable to gravity. I don't know if there is a way to measure it directly, but you can measure it indirectly. It may be possible to measure it almost directly with an accelerometer. I don't know enough about how linear accelerometers work to know for sure.
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 3 жыл бұрын
_I didn't forget about it. I ignored it._ Spoken like a true physicist. 😂
@zoomboy6676
@zoomboy6676 2 жыл бұрын
And also like a true Engineering student (You know what I mean lol)
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 2 жыл бұрын
and yet , when I ignore putting "+c" everyone loses their minds
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 2 жыл бұрын
@@kojak8403 What?
@iankrasnow5383
@iankrasnow5383 2 жыл бұрын
For an even more straightforward example of "normal force" on a scale, try putting your scale on an incline. It won't give your entire weight, only the weight that's normal to the surface the scale is sitting on.
@mids5854
@mids5854 2 жыл бұрын
Put it on a slope, east to west and west to east... with an accurate enough scale you should be able to confirm planitary rotation.
@KarstenJohansson
@KarstenJohansson 2 жыл бұрын
@@mids5854 No because it doesn't accelerate. The elevator demonstrated that once acceleration stops (elevator is at full speed) it shows your correct weight again. Then once braking begins, the opposite happens. To confirm planetary rotation as you described, you'd have to stop the rotation or change its speed first.
@snydedon9636
@snydedon9636 2 жыл бұрын
@@KarstenJohansson Superman did that all the time when I was a kid in the 60s.
@weshansen7892
@weshansen7892 2 жыл бұрын
So I've just learned that scales work exactly how I've known they have for my entire life. I thought this video was going to blow my mind or something
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, just 10 minutes of quibbling about the definition of weight
@toby9999
@toby9999 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't blow your mind because you already knew it but realise most people don't know it. Most people ate clueless of basic physics.
@mayorb3366
@mayorb3366 2 жыл бұрын
@@toby9999 Most people think a 1/3 pound burger is smaller than a 1/4 burger, but it cost more. That's why fast food places took them off the menu. Yes, really.
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 2 жыл бұрын
​@@mayorb3366 I refuse to believe it, for my own mental safety.
@mayorb3366
@mayorb3366 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamikeserpentail3778 You are very wise. There are certain times in life where you just have to cover your eyes and plug your ears and say.... "la la la la la la la" .
@NotHPotter
@NotHPotter 3 жыл бұрын
Careful. Using the scale other than as intended may void its warranty.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Even for a bathroom scale!
@superking208
@superking208 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love kitchen scales, because the manufacturer can't possibly know WHICH herb I'm weighing out in my kitchen...
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
@Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 жыл бұрын
@@superking208 Cell phones...I mean two decades ago, I would have totally agreed.
@superking208
@superking208 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robert_McGarry_Poems Gotta love how the world's takeaway from dystopian literature was "Oh, so if I voluntarily let Big Brother in my house to watch and listen at all times, I can avoid typing a few characters per day? Sign me up! Alexa, play 'Despacito'!"
@tmdrake
@tmdrake 3 жыл бұрын
True.
@jerwahjwcc
@jerwahjwcc 3 жыл бұрын
You're a braver man than I referring to your wife as "or whatever" 🤣
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@rauldumitrascu4929
@rauldumitrascu4929 3 жыл бұрын
True! 😂
@rauldumitrascu4929
@rauldumitrascu4929 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I don't this is the way a man should push on a woman. 🤣
@daddymuggle
@daddymuggle 3 жыл бұрын
@@rauldumitrascu4929 well, the evidence suggests that she's no push-over.
@harshjha536
@harshjha536 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceAsylum sir I have one question if An elevator is moving downward with acceleration of say 12 m/S2 then effective g will be now (10-12) which is negative what is feel of this negative acceleration?? Please sir🤔tell m!! I am big fan of yours😊☺️
@HBlack97
@HBlack97 2 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this in my high school physics class and it was probably one of the most interesting lessons we did. The fun lessons like that are what made me love science in general, good teachers know how to keep class interesting.
@baki4003
@baki4003 3 жыл бұрын
“You don’t feel weight, you only feel pushes and pulls”… man I feel enlightened, thanks for the video
@Randomperson-dj5yv
@Randomperson-dj5yv 3 жыл бұрын
but isn't weight itself just "pull"
@iamjimgroth
@iamjimgroth 3 жыл бұрын
I read that precisely when he said it.
@joshanonline
@joshanonline 3 жыл бұрын
I once argued with an intellectual that our Weight(not Mass) was a measure Gravity forcing you into an object that stops your free fall. And I was called ignorant lol And this is why I don't argue with people that claim to know everything about something.
@tektrixter
@tektrixter 3 жыл бұрын
We also don't feel temperature, but the heat transfer in or out of our bodies.
@nickname7152
@nickname7152 3 жыл бұрын
@@tektrixter Eat a lot and stand still, do nothing for a while after eat then you will feel it, guaranteed.
@MrMcp76
@MrMcp76 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid I started to have this same suspicion about what scales actually measured when I held the bottom half down and pulled the top half up and watched the dial spin the other way, effectively displaying what I called negative weight. I realized then it was measuring how hard I was pulling or pushing on it. 34 years later you make a video expertly explaining what me as a 10 year old was seeing. What other childhood observations will you help explain next? 😄 Great video!
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 2 жыл бұрын
We had an old spring scale that was effectively a sandwich of two steel plates around a series of springs that were attached to a dial when I was a kid. My mom told me to always pick it up by the bottom plate and never the top plate, which of course meant I had to pick it up by the top plate at least once just to see why I wasn't supposed to and saw the dial do the exact same thing. Also I ended up stretching some of the springs by doing that which meant my stepdad had to go through the tedious process of recalibrating the scale to account for the stretched springs but it was worth it to me.
@Will-dn9dq
@Will-dn9dq 2 жыл бұрын
So you broke your parents scales? Lol
@Will-dn9dq
@Will-dn9dq 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dargonhuman lol literally what I said 1st guy did broke scales. Your mom learned not to tell kids not to do stuff lol.
@jasonjbharlow
@jasonjbharlow 2 жыл бұрын
7:04 I disagree. The buoyancy force on snow and slush are both completely negligible. The reason slush is harder to shovel is that it is more dense, and so a shovel-full has a greater mass than a shovel-full of snow.
@bikeboy6674
@bikeboy6674 2 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant. I've been trying to explain this thing about scales, lifts and gravity to my son - but nowhere near as well as this. I can't wait to show him this video when he comes home from school later. Huge thanks, Science Guy!
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! 🤓
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
"This isn't flying, it's falling with style".
@france8607
@france8607 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahha
@chuckoneill2023
@chuckoneill2023 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, man. I was gonna say that😉
@Bolpat
@Bolpat 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a good intuition to say an orbit is falling but the earth curves away. I'd rather go with falling is an extremely eccentric orbit.
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 2 жыл бұрын
Like the end of Dark Star?
@horophim
@horophim 3 жыл бұрын
“The Guide says there is an art to flying", said Ford, "or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
@mjproebstle
@mjproebstle 3 жыл бұрын
the Guide is useful in so many ways…
@mrcreepypl
@mrcreepypl 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my first ever physics lesson in school about 8 years ago. The teacher talked about the difference between mass and weight. I was so fascinated that physics became my favourite subject on that day!
@trealwilliams1563
@trealwilliams1563 2 жыл бұрын
I've already went there with my mind... no need to physically take a scale anywhere. Thanks for the superb content; You are truly in my book as the gangsta of science within your respective fields!!!👍🏽🖖🏾
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 3 жыл бұрын
what makes this funny is that I have an elevator scale in my bathroom.
@theotherguy6527
@theotherguy6527 3 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, I have a Kitchen scale in my livingroom.
@ChronicSkater
@ChronicSkater 3 жыл бұрын
I have a tiny scale in my nightstand drawer to measure how much push my bag of flower I just got has in it
@mayhemdiscordchaosohmy573
@mayhemdiscordchaosohmy573 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you call it an elevator scale? Because it goes up and down?
@christhorney
@christhorney 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChronicSkater me too!
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 2 жыл бұрын
o.0
@oscarlama
@oscarlama 3 жыл бұрын
"Falling but missing" is some hitchhikers guide to the galaxy stuff
@shelley-anneharrisberg7409
@shelley-anneharrisberg7409 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanChandlerSF Me too! :D)
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 жыл бұрын
try Terry Pratchett
@lewismocaby3646
@lewismocaby3646 2 жыл бұрын
This brought back to mind my days of running cranes. The point in time in which a load is lifted that it begins movement “going up” no matter what it is it becomes heavier for a fraction of a second. Depending on the speed at which it’s being hoisted that force can actually overload a crane. I remember learning in my crane certification classes that this point in time of initial force is called the moment of load. Interesting that I I’ve never even considered it since then in the elevator of all places.
@philliptoone
@philliptoone 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid we liked to jump when the elevator started moving. You will either go up more or less than expected.
@E39520IA
@E39520IA 3 жыл бұрын
You can use this effect in an elevator, when carrying grocery bags. When you enter the elevator in the parking floor, place the bags on the floor. Just before you reach your floor and the elevator begins to stop, lift you bags up again and they will be much lighter. This need perfect timing, but it works great.
@spindoctor6385
@spindoctor6385 3 жыл бұрын
I find it fun to try to jump just as the elevator stops, you can get some serious "height" in relation to the elevator floor.
@5Siver
@5Siver 2 жыл бұрын
@@spindoctor6385 you can also cause the elevator to make an emergency stop.
@spindoctor6385
@spindoctor6385 2 жыл бұрын
@@5Siver I never thought of that, a sudden stop instead of decelerating would be awesome. The main question would be "Is it to childish for a 46 year old guy to play in elevators?" and if the answer is yes will that stop me?
@5Siver
@5Siver 2 жыл бұрын
@@spindoctor6385 if you won't have a flight to miss (like I had) then you're fine :)
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 жыл бұрын
kawaii uwu
@Sforschondetta
@Sforschondetta 3 жыл бұрын
Turn the scale upside down. The Earth now weighs ~your earth weight~ on planet You.
@captaincruise8796
@captaincruise8796 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this only work in Soviet Russia?
@apple54345
@apple54345 3 жыл бұрын
Vsauce did it!
@heliusuniverse7460
@heliusuniverse7460 3 жыл бұрын
gravity works both ways so if the scale weighs 50N, the earth feels 50N of force towards the scale too, so in a weird way you really are measuring the "weight" of the earth in relation to the scale. just like you would measure the weight of something in relation to the earth
@corinnemuir1542
@corinnemuir1542 3 жыл бұрын
@@captaincruise8796 aaahhhhh I was gonna do that!
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 жыл бұрын
u don't have to flip the scale upside-down for that. That will just make it harder to read xD
@seanfisk2252
@seanfisk2252 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fantastic idea for my IB Physics Class!
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
I used to do this in my physics classes all the time!
@zinaidanitikin4886
@zinaidanitikin4886 2 жыл бұрын
2:50 falling sideways. falling and missing... Douglas Adams had this to say about it in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy... "There is an art to flying, or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. ... Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, that presents the difficulties" According to the Guide, the main thing that flying requires is the ability to throw yourself at the ground and miss. It says to throw yourself forward with all your weight and "the willingness not to mind that it's going to hurt", however it will surely hurt if you fail to miss the ground. The difficulty is in missing the ground, and doing so accidentally, as "deliberately intending to miss the ground" does not work.
@julialeslie9213
@julialeslie9213 2 жыл бұрын
I am very happy folks noticed this!
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is the reason airlines have been misplacing luggage since that book was published.
@zinaidanitikin4886
@zinaidanitikin4886 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexandarHullRichter in times like that, all you can really do is smile, wave, and thank them for all the fish.
@WDCallahan
@WDCallahan 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that's what weight meant. All my life I said weight changes with forces, mass stays constant.
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh.. you listened in science class. Well done! I listened in high school science class, and started my college experience as a science major (now a software engineer). So I listened also.. but SO many people haven't been exposed to these ideas. It is why this channel is so wonderful.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Mass does stay constant. Weight can definitely change. You're correct there. Weight just isn't going to change on different floors of a building or in an elevator. You have to get _miles_ above the surface before you'll notice a difference in weight. See the pinned comment for more details.
@bradleysmith9431
@bradleysmith9431 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we were to walk around on jupiter.. our mass is the same as it was on earth, but we would weigh more on jupiter..??? 🤯
@andresvillarreal9271
@andresvillarreal9271 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceAsylum This may be true if you use your definitions taken from dictionaries. But if you are a true scientist you know that dictionaries are a garbage place to look for scientific terms and concepts.
@SIM2014
@SIM2014 2 жыл бұрын
No. That's what Nick's clone would say! [Nick: Now let's weigh in on this thing called 'relativistic' mass crazies!😁]
@onebeets
@onebeets 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 footage of astronauts performing important science on the ISS
@adb012
@adb012 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. We call it conservation of angular momentum.
@NamedSoni
@NamedSoni 3 жыл бұрын
@@adb012 its simpler to call it Torque.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried that guy spinning would bump his head!
@Jamesdavey358
@Jamesdavey358 2 жыл бұрын
@@NamedSoni not the same thing....
@jackcooper7934
@jackcooper7934 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, you're very informative and entertaining to watch. Thank you
@patrickscahillii9365
@patrickscahillii9365 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, brings back memories of my youth when I was really into technical things.
@mjproebstle
@mjproebstle 3 жыл бұрын
WHY NOT ?!? Cheers!
@storm14k
@storm14k 3 жыл бұрын
Could picture Nick getting kicked out of a building for playing in the elevator with a scale. 🤣
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
The building's caretaker was not so Lucid about it either.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
😂 I filmed it at a school I used to work at in a science department elevator. It wouldn't have looked as weird as you're imagining.
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
@Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceAsylum Hey, didn't you graduate... And then work here?
@NightBazaar
@NightBazaar 3 жыл бұрын
"...AND DON'T YOU EVER COME BACK HERE AGAIN!!!" (Kicks Nick off the elevator). Nick rises and falls on a curve. Nick raises his finger, looks at the camera, and says, "Hey, Crazies! What happens when you get kicked in the hiney?"
@mk_rexx
@mk_rexx 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, it's nust a clone!
@sMASHsound
@sMASHsound 2 жыл бұрын
that little throw away few seconds finnaly allowed me to know what 'normal' is in forces. and we alllll forget about buoyancy... most times.
@pantelisvasileiadis2858
@pantelisvasileiadis2858 2 жыл бұрын
was much more interesting than I thought. Dude youre making great videos!
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🤓
@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven
@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven 3 жыл бұрын
1:19 I love the way that Nerd Clone always looks at the camera after saying something technically correct.
@lambdaprog
@lambdaprog 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the first time when I learned that mass and weight are different things, back in high school in the 90s. Much needed for the new generations.
@Critical3rror
@Critical3rror 2 жыл бұрын
I was taught the difference between mass and weight back in middle school. Also the science channel. Really there is no excuse to not know, it's literally just basic physics.
@Let_The_James_Begin
@Let_The_James_Begin 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I have a bone to pick! I was relegated to watching a rerun because you haven't posted a video in three weeks even though you usually do one every month. (P.S. I still enjoyed it)
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
January's video goes up tomorrow 👍
@skateordie9628
@skateordie9628 2 жыл бұрын
this is the first vid I see and subbed immediately. Very interesting and very well explained, also it's refreshing to change perspective on the mundane.
@andrewloeber3844
@andrewloeber3844 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I had to do this exact experiment as a project for my AP Physics class years ago. Teacher told us to bring a bathroom scale on an elevator, videotape the change in measured weight, and use the footage to calculate the maximum and minimum acceleration of the elevator, exactly as you did here.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great student project!
@Zeusz310
@Zeusz310 3 жыл бұрын
In my language we use this definition: Weight is the force with which the body pushes the support or pulls the suspension. (when we translate our word for weight) But then you call gravitational force weight and our "weight" apparent weight.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds a lot like the _engineers_ definition for "weight."
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
@Thijs Janssen Weight and gravity are the same thing in physics.
@En_theo
@En_theo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceAsylum "Well, technically..."
@swhbpocl
@swhbpocl 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I also use the definition “weight” is a force caused by the product of mass and acceleration. With a scale using a spring, you measure a force by reading the compression or extraction distance of the spring. To really measure mass, a balance scale is needed where a known mass is balanced against the unknown mass. To work, the whole arrangement need to be under the same acceleration. As we are standing on the earth or moon or any concentrates lump of matter having mass…
@adb012
@adb012 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceAsylum ... You should see the technical documents related with airplane design and testing including the certification requirements. They talk all the time about the aerodynamic loads to be all the time in equilibrium with inertial loads (instead of F=ma), about weight on the wheels (instead of normal force), and about how a 1G flight is unaccelerated but 0G is accelerated. Yuck!!! (and I am an aeronautical engineer and a pilot).
@anjalisrivastava3619
@anjalisrivastava3619 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your style of teaching. I have watched almost all of your videos. I really used to like the style of the one which you made a year back around or so would like to see more of it.
@vtksolid9127
@vtksolid9127 2 жыл бұрын
wow u blew my mind i love the way you explain things
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused after seeing the title but then realised that the word in my language that translates to weight actually doesn't translate to weight at all, at least according to this video. In Lithuanian, "weight" is translated as "svoris" and is used that way in linguistics, dictionaries, every day language, etc. That's the official translation. However, it seems that "weight" does not mean "svoris" according to this video. We use "svoris" to describe the force that an object affects another surface, say, the ground or the scale, which is what you called the "push". We use the word "sunkis" to describe the force that gravity pulls you downward with (or towards another mass). And "sunkis" translates to "heaviness" in English instead of "weight". So the official translation of "weight" actually doesn't mean weight in Lithuanian. And the official translation of "heaviness" actually should be the translation of "weight". Interesting how linguistics and physics can differ so much, especially when different languages are concerned. EDIT: After some digging, I found that it's English physicists that's to blame for the misconception of weight and the weird "mistranslation" between English and Lithuanian. The word "weight" comes from Old-Germanic "wegan" which comes from Proto-Indo-European "wegh". And it means to move, carry, lift. So English physicists incorrectly chose the word "weight" to represent the force of gravity when it should have represented the push force that objects affect surfaces such as the ground or the scales since it's exactly THAT force that ancient people felt when they came up with the word "wegh/wegan". Apparent weight should be THE weight and what is weight in physics should probably use another word. So maybe it's not the people who say scales measure weight who are wrong but rather physicists who chose the wrong word?
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Etymology is so interesting!! 🤓
@markotrieste
@markotrieste 3 жыл бұрын
Mass!
@raj-m
@raj-m 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't encounter this question yet but thank you for making my concept more clear.❤️
@3DJapan
@3DJapan 2 жыл бұрын
3:02 "Flying is easy, just throw yourself at the ground and miss" --Douglas Adams
@simonwiltshire7089
@simonwiltshire7089 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic post!!!! thank you :)
@jazzseba
@jazzseba 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize the importance of knowing these concepts until I found this channel! there's no words to describe this "THANK YOU!" that i'm feeling!
@danipent3550
@danipent3550 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good it literally explains physics in a fun and understandable way
@theotherguy6527
@theotherguy6527 3 жыл бұрын
IKR, this guy is great, he should add some near death experiences and occasional life threatening explosion. He will go down in history as one of the greats!
@psibarpsi
@psibarpsi 2 жыл бұрын
Stop! Just stop using 'literally' in that incorrect manner.
@BlacksmithTWD
@BlacksmithTWD 2 жыл бұрын
@@danipent3550 Not by me. The moment a word starts to also mean it's opposite it becomes a useless word, though of course if you have nothing to say to begin with it may not be bothering you.
@danipent3550
@danipent3550 2 жыл бұрын
@@psibarpsi I’m not English bruv
@danipent3550
@danipent3550 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlacksmithTWD I’m not English and I was using it as emphasis
@MATYel1
@MATYel1 2 жыл бұрын
All the science stuff and all was really cool, but then I saw the TMNT shirt and I had tu sub. Great content!
@beauthestdane
@beauthestdane 2 жыл бұрын
“There is an art to flying, or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adama
@TheSenator007
@TheSenator007 3 жыл бұрын
As I child I thought it would be funny to jump onto a scale. The result was that the meter jumped up and that I gained some intuitive understanding of this.
@drewishaf
@drewishaf 3 жыл бұрын
I've taken many physics courses in my engineering education and never had an issue with the idea of weight. We always calculated and described weight as the product of mass in the presence of a gravitational field. Weight is an object's mass multiplied by acceleration of gravity. Some of this seems to muddy that concept.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a really great handle on what weight is 👍. This is _not_ common.
@chuckdeuces911
@chuckdeuces911 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't notice that this channel is for people to learn not for knowledgeable people to humbly brag about how smart they already are so congrats you got an education to come to KZfaq a flaunt.
@JasonB808
@JasonB808 2 жыл бұрын
Newtonian physics vs General Relativity. He is basically showing how acceleration is the same as gravity in the elevator experiment. The scale measure a compression force of the feet and the base. Manufacturers of scales use a standard weight. There is a actual weight that is measured to be exactly 1 pound or 1KG. Then the manufacturer uses that to calibrate the scale so that when we stand on it with the expected 1G of earth we can calculate our weight. But it’s not measuring weight, but the compression of the force of gravity of earth and the gravity of our bodies compressing the scale. The scale is then designed to represent that force as weight based on that standard weight it was calibrated to.
@kevinkent9194
@kevinkent9194 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@clampchowder9569
@clampchowder9569 2 жыл бұрын
The symmetry of this new set up is something else. He's either in the middle right down the line between the walls of there's 2 of him one on each side.
@joelcraig9803
@joelcraig9803 3 жыл бұрын
3:03 HOLY F! The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy was right about flying!
@mohammedal-haddad2652
@mohammedal-haddad2652 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the difference between normal and perpendicular. I always wondered.
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
@Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 жыл бұрын
But he only described the special case of euclidian space. Does true perpendicular actually exist???
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
Normal in this context means the same thing as perpendicular. In the context of the normal force, the normal and lateral coordinates of a planar surface, and the normal line in optics, it means perpendicular. In the context of linear algebra, think of the idea unit vectors. Normal means divided by magnitude, so that its magnitude equals 1. In linear algebra, they prefer the term orthogonal to mean perpendicular. You might even see the two terms put together, as orthonormal. The ortho part indicates perpendicularity, and the normal part indicates unit length.
@meysamghahremaninejad6809
@meysamghahremaninejad6809 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very clever video right from the title! I salute you sir!
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙇‍♂️
@lwazicembi6481
@lwazicembi6481 Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly I have always explained how bathroom scales work the same way. Nice video.
@x_xkitten15
@x_xkitten15 3 жыл бұрын
cool! thx for helping me in my 3rd secondary year dynamics keep it up man !
@markm4952
@markm4952 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely keeping this in my video list for my class. Thank you so much
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I hope it helps 🤓
@antoniomaglione4101
@antoniomaglione4101 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I thought I were doing an odd thing by placing the scale on a spring mattress and bouncing up and down, to see the different readings when going up and when going down. A digital scale doesn't work well, because their sampling rate is too low - one per second, or less. One similarly interesting experiment, is to take a GPS speed meter on a motor boat, and comparing the reading to the speed indicator of the boat, which indicates the speed relative to the water - it uses a small turbine in the water. Or comparing it to the wind speed. Speed is so much more relative than weight... Thanks for the video...
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was really important that the scale was analog. A digital scale would have been a huge pain.
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 2 жыл бұрын
*Elevator barely has room* Me: *pulls up with a bathroom scale FOR SCIENCE*
@kakalimukherjee3297
@kakalimukherjee3297 3 жыл бұрын
Even a lot of engineering graduates don't understand these fundamentals. This video is gonna be a great help to high schoolers, I remember my own suffering trying to understand this two years ago XD
@Secret_Moon
@Secret_Moon 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? I recognized this on my own like in high school.
@brainboxanky1729
@brainboxanky1729 3 жыл бұрын
Ei je Mukherjee dada, egineering college er jawa jonno amader ke JEE dite hoy, tai amader ke ei sob portei hoy, nahole college e admission ki kore pabo??!! 😂
@kakalimukherjee3297
@kakalimukherjee3297 3 жыл бұрын
@@brainboxanky1729 সবাই পরে কিন্তু কয়জন বোঝে😅
@raj-m
@raj-m 3 жыл бұрын
@@brainboxanky1729 😍 বাংলা কমেন্ট । আপনি কোন ক্লাস এ এখন? কোন জেলা?
@kakalimukherjee3297
@kakalimukherjee3297 3 жыл бұрын
@@raj-m এইতো JEE দিচ্ছি
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
I read the title. And immediately thought: "To prove Einstein right." haven't seen the video yet.
@ashleyboullt8731
@ashleyboullt8731 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video!
@chrissidiras
@chrissidiras 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are becoming more and more pieces of art.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙂
@SkywalkerAni
@SkywalkerAni 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I didn't connect this in my mind till now, but Douglas Adams' thing that flying is throwing yourself at the ground and missing has a basis in reality.
@mikegale9757
@mikegale9757 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think he has to get credit for that line. He certainly had a unique skill for concocting scientific parodies. There's a passage in one of his HHGTTG books about the anthropic principle, too. He explains it from the perspective of a puddle on the street that suddenly becomes self aware and conscious of its predicament. His improbability drive and restaurant at the edge of the universe are a bit of a stretch, but they're also based on actual science. I think he just loved to make people think while they are being entertained. Like Nick.
@walterbrown8694
@walterbrown8694 2 жыл бұрын
My flight instructor always told me the goal in flying is to learn to stay in the middle of the air, and don't go close to the edges except when you desire to terminate the flight.
@mikegale9757
@mikegale9757 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterbrown8694 Good advice.
@physforfun
@physforfun 3 жыл бұрын
Good and illustrating video as always! What could be added regarding the old fashioned analogue scale, is the much higher weight measured once you step on it and before it stabilizes at static rest (I mean at the static floor now, not in the moving elevator). This is not a measuring error, it is in fact a true measure also due to sudden or moving load (not to be confused with impact loading) 🤓. Now, it's a shame the digital scales do not show the beauty of this as the added acceleration just when you step on the scale is not shown, at least not on my digital scale. The sudden or moving load is not equivalent to the static load measured at rest, even it's not an impact loading that is usually asociated with even shorter load duration.🤓keep up the good work, your videos are truly interesting and illustrates physics in a fascinating, educational and not to forget in a crazyfunny way!👍😊
@anullhandle
@anullhandle 2 жыл бұрын
Physforfun, digital scales often have higher internal resolution and do averaging to reduce noise at the expense of display update rate. They can also do some tricks in the background to null out drift. Fwiw the load cells can be sensitive to shock loads.
@physforfun
@physforfun 2 жыл бұрын
@@anullhandle ok, thanks- nice to know😊
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx 2 жыл бұрын
You have some interesting characters on your staff. 💫🙇🏻
@sleeeptube
@sleeeptube 2 жыл бұрын
There seem to be at least three different definitions of the word "weight". 1) Mass m in kg (as understood by most people and intended to be measured by the bathroom scales) 2) Force of gravity, mg in Newtons, as defined by US/EU textbooks 3) Force applied to a support, m(g+p) in Newtons, as defined by some Eastern European textbooks.
@mayorb3366
@mayorb3366 2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend has several definitions of "weight" also. I agree with all of them.
@ThatTimeTheThingHappened
@ThatTimeTheThingHappened 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had to explain this to my students so many times and they think I’m crazy because no one else explains it this way.
@ProCoderIO
@ProCoderIO 3 жыл бұрын
“The channel where you learn about physics and have fun doing it!” All of KZfaq should do this.
@anonymous.youtuber
@anonymous.youtuber 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video ! I ❤️the science and I ❤️ the humor!
@stevenclevenger9032
@stevenclevenger9032 2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel I need to for the simple fact that you did it for us. Thank you sir, great content
@mr.curious1714
@mr.curious1714 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, you have cleared my confusion of mass and weight. Thanks Sir. I would say only one thing after viewing this [great] video - 'This is the best Science channel on KZfaq for [crazy] people like me.'
@drewdavis2392
@drewdavis2392 3 жыл бұрын
"There is an art to flying, or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." -- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
@bok..
@bok.. 2 жыл бұрын
wow i just found you through your other channel where you talked about autism, i was diagnosed later than usual as well and it was tough. Seeing what you have achieved here and your great communication skills it gives me some hope :)
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
Being as functional as I am today took a lifetime of work, practice, and self training.
@thomastruthseeker
@thomastruthseeker 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, i love ya! The way you explain things is perfect for a goofball like me! Keep being awesome!
@xanadu1215
@xanadu1215 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome. Thank you very much. Now I’m going to put my scale in a swimming pool and see what happens next.
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
@Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 жыл бұрын
Boom! Kicking it up a notch...
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure it's an analog one! (Honestly, I had planned to do this for the buoyancy part of the video, but ran out of time.)
@vincemarenger7122
@vincemarenger7122 3 жыл бұрын
That's the science spirit right here !
@fep_ptcp883
@fep_ptcp883 3 жыл бұрын
If you turn the scale upside down, you can measure the force of the Earth on you (unsurprisingly identical to your force on Earth)
@incription
@incription 3 жыл бұрын
you don't exert a force on the earth at all, because then they would cancel each other out - "gravity" that causes your weight is caused by your acceleration from the earth pushing you up to stop you from falling
@YvesDautremay
@YvesDautremay 2 жыл бұрын
@@incription Ever heard of Newton 3rd law ?
@incription
@incription 2 жыл бұрын
@@YvesDautremay newton's third law only holds in euclidean space, but because of gravity, it's doesn't, right?
@billsheppard9368
@billsheppard9368 3 жыл бұрын
Your elevator demo is done with a spring-based scale. Now try it with a balance scale and see if it'll register those up-down blips.
@CATinBOOTS81
@CATinBOOTS81 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Nick, you're one of the best at explaining Physics. Would you consider making a series of video about Loop Quantum Gravity? Something about Loops as solution to the Wheeler-Devitt equation, Spin Networks, Volume as a quantum property of a node and Area as quantum property of a link, the emergence of "Space" from a Spin Network, Spin Foam and the emergence of "Time" from the evolution of a Spin Network. LQG is a very neglected topic, it's very hard to find good material...
@JackBlackNinja
@JackBlackNinja 3 жыл бұрын
1 minute in and this is already the exact video I needed today. Last week I realized that astronauts experience serious gravity being ostensibly weightless and that sent me down a gravitational rabbit hole that this video just capped off.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help 🤓
@olmostgudinaf8100
@olmostgudinaf8100 2 жыл бұрын
"down a gravitational rabbit hole" - the official term is "gravity well" 😁
@yoelicon7283
@yoelicon7283 2 жыл бұрын
Till this day I don't regret ever subscribing!
@Huntingslife1
@Huntingslife1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have these talks with my two boys, all the time!👍😉
@jonathanmartins7744
@jonathanmartins7744 2 жыл бұрын
best physics guy out there! Continue with the good job!
@JohnWinquist
@JohnWinquist 3 жыл бұрын
Space Clone might want to have his propulsion mechanism checked. Green could be a warning sign.
@foxhound1008
@foxhound1008 2 жыл бұрын
I will agree, you can’t feel “weight” what you feel is the normal force for the required acceleration. As in an aircraft, in a pull-up, “pulling gs” what your are feeling is the normal force, being provided by the seat of the aircraft, to accelerate you. Hence, if you are sitting on a scale in the aircraft you will see the required force to accelerate you with the aircrafts changing flight path (velocity)
@AFmedic
@AFmedic 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you! If some fat ass (correction - "massive") person stands on my foot, I definitely feel his/her weight.
@foxhound1008
@foxhound1008 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFmedic what you are feeling is the floor not only accelerating your mass, but the mass of the “fat ass”. The force is transmitted from the floor, thru your foot, to the fat ass.
@antred11
@antred11 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you do feel weight, because technically "weight" is a force. What people colloquially refer to as "weight" is actually "mass".
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
@@antred11 It depends on how you define weight. Most people learn that weight is the pull of gravity, and in that case, you CANNOT feel your weight. You cannot feel the difference between accelerating through deep space at 9.8 m/s^2, and standing stationary in Earth's gravitational field of 9.8 N/kg. You feel the constraint force that keep you at rest in your immediate environment, and you instinctively assume the constraint force opposes your weight. If instead, you define weight as your reaction to a constraint force, then indeed you do feel it. In any case, you ultimately feel constraint forces, and you cannot feel the force of gravity.
@maurosanchezhernandez5021
@maurosanchezhernandez5021 Жыл бұрын
in wikipedia article "mass versus weight! we can find "The mass of an object is a measure of the object’s inertial property, or the amount of matter it contains. The weight of an object is a measure of the force exerted on the object by gravity, or the force needed to support it. " that are the correct definitions
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum Жыл бұрын
🤔 Interesting. So wikipedia lists both the physics and the engineering definitions?
@ReiCaixa
@ReiCaixa 2 жыл бұрын
They measure force put into them. You can make make that number bigger by just pressing it stronger
@seanspartan2023
@seanspartan2023 3 жыл бұрын
"Falling, but missing..." Is that a Douglas Adams reference?
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@lucidmoses
@lucidmoses 3 жыл бұрын
So Douglas Adams was right. Flying is just falling down and missing the ground.
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
That's orbit.
@vashmillions8696
@vashmillions8696 2 жыл бұрын
what would happen if a person in an broken elevator which is falling down suddenly jumps just when it is about to crash on the ground would the person feel impact?
@sephiroth127
@sephiroth127 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that the "weight" on a scale is also influenced by the rotation of the Earth. The closer to the equator you are, the lower your weight is on a scale because of the apparent centrifugal force (you're also more far from the center of the Earth).
@ishaan_goel
@ishaan_goel 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't forget it. He just ignored it
@Johnrich395
@Johnrich395 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey honey, I need your help for a video!" "Ok, what do you need me to do?" "Stand here while I push the bathroom scale against your back!" ... ... ... "Ooookaaaaaayy...."
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@olmostgudinaf8100
@olmostgudinaf8100 2 жыл бұрын
"...and call you 'whatever'" 😁
@adb012
@adb012 3 жыл бұрын
Actually (nerd clone here) the scale measures the normal force with which YOU push on the scale. Yes, it has equal in magnitude to the normal force with which the scale pushes on you because they are an action-and-reaction pair, but still. The scale can only measure a force acting on it, not a force acting on you. Which is another very good reason why a scale could never measure your weight (which also acts on you, not on the scale). Brilliant video.
@tenormdness
@tenormdness 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@chuckdeuces911
@chuckdeuces911 2 жыл бұрын
What a waste of a comment. This is for regular people to learn what they haven't it's not a channel for 'experts'..
@diablo.the.cheater
@diablo.the.cheater 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckdeuces911 What a waste of a comment. This is for people interested in science to learn cool factoids, not for idiots to be shaming people that add even more factoids
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 2 жыл бұрын
Having pushed on a scale with my hand, it was quickly obvious that it wasn't measuring weight. But given the regular context it is meant to be used, across generally consistent frames of reference, one can note the changing variable.
@jeffwilliamson2932
@jeffwilliamson2932 2 жыл бұрын
PROFESSOR!! I shouldn't say your last name here!! You inspired me with your physics 1 class and I passed the Civil PE in Water Resources & Environmental this past October. I think of you fondly, and often. The history of physics is still the best thing I've ever learned and I have you to thank for my career path. I found this channel while looking for you so that I might thank you.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear you're doing well! Thanks for looking me up. It's always nice to hear from past students.
@kaffra
@kaffra 3 жыл бұрын
yes i was just going to grab my bathroom scale to measure my elevators acceleration
@itsgarytime2768
@itsgarytime2768 2 жыл бұрын
You have an elevator?
@stevenutter3614
@stevenutter3614 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you're so good at getting angry with your nerd clone, lmao. I bet a lot of work went into figuring out how to time that just right, with the i-i-i -it, and head shaking. Or maybe your just a brilliant genius who had an innate sense for how to deal with nerd clone.
@nobody_7580
@nobody_7580 Жыл бұрын
Its like two days I find your page and I have a lots of exams but I don't care and I just watch your videos 😁👌🏻so nice video ♥ you show the real since🤝🏻
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum Жыл бұрын
Thanks! (but, also, my videos will be here when your exams are over 🙂.)
@AmritGrewal31
@AmritGrewal31 2 жыл бұрын
My God I had always wondered but never got an answer. So thank you
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