but the 730 was faster, so no need. is it the same engine in the 770 as the 730?

​@@supertreme5559 basically same engine but different tuning so it produces more power. 770hp to be exact

@@supertreme5559 There is a test between the 730 and 770 on "Scania trucks and buses" Yt channel. 770 was faster but also used less fuel.

@@ontheroadagain4773 lol

@@supertreme5559the 770 has different internals to the 730. Different bottom end shells are different exhaust manifolds and fuel system

Yeah that V8 sound is awesome !

That's why Volvo is called "Whisper from North"

@@TheGagi82 never heard of that before

@@S55M3 Then you don't know what VOLVO FH is

We hall 175 ton with FH700 and they are awesome and outlast the Scania all day long.

😂😂😂

He didnt stop on start line...

@@mortiferum87 Yes, he stopped. Both stopped and Volvo was looser:)

Volvo is carying more

@@losa6783 Did you mean "Volvo is crying more"?🤣🤣

They are both Swedish trucks, same level of engineering. Meaning they are very reliable, and probably low fuel consumption.

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These trucks were designed by great Swedish engineering and top technicians. I'm fairly certain none of those engineers looked anything like a viking of the past. Neither did they have a viking as the template for designing them. These great designers and engineers used their great know-how, experience, clever thinking and innovation to design a top product - in this case a truck. Men like Alfred Nobel, Sven Gustaf Wingqvist, Fredrik Ljungström, Gustaf Dalén , Gustav de Laval, John Ericsson, Åke Senning etc etc made Sweden punch way above its weight class with inventions which still are used worldwide today. Their inventions and engineering made the country prosperous. In the industrial age innovation, quality and technical integrity sells products. Skinning the customer for the largest possible profit does not (certain countries do seem to have adapted that model). Btw, designing a powerful truck is fairly easy. The real trick is to make it fuel-efficient, practical (it's designed to pull heavy loads not win races) and reliable. That last part is especially important for trucking companies. Depending on the market trucks live hard lives and need to minimize the time for service and repairs. Speaking of the vikings. Their real strength lied in their longships. Without them they wouldn't have been able to achieve much. Why? Well, for starters the longships had flat bottoms which meant that the vikings could sail really close to the beach and therefore attack places nobody believed could be attacked from the sea. In fact their name "viking" is derived from the norse word for bay (vik). They didn't call themselves vikings and fact is the people they faced had different names for them. The Germans called them Ascomanni (ashmen), Dubgail and Finngail by the Irish, Locklannaich by the Gaels, Dene (comes from "Dane") by the Anglo-saxons, Northmonn by Frisians and Varangians by Slavs and Byzantines. Viking was a title or "trade" for those who did it and the majority of the Scandinavians who stayed home and tended the land, kept livestock and crafted tools weren't vikings in other words. As for the viking longships. Flat bottoms means they were fast too meaning that viking usually approached so fast very few saw them coming and could warn their villages or small towns they were under attack. Almost all European ships at this time had to make harbor at a port in order to land men and equipment. The Vikings simply exploited the hole of undefended coasts nobody would think of attacking from. In the case European warlords wanted to attack coasts their large ships had to stay far from the beaches and their men board smaller landing ships. All this took time and the element of surprise and speed was gone. The vikings simply landed fast with their longships and made shore in no time. Back in the time of manual message delivering it could take a full day before the local king or "vassal" heard his domain had been attacked by vikings and another day to take his troops to the raided town. By that time the vikings had usually left already and moved on to the next target or went back home. Where the vikings couldn't raid - i.e. places where the resistance was too strong with castles, keeps and walled cities - they settled on trade. This too was greatly helped by their longships. Why? Well, these longships could be used to travel on the European rivers as well. In fact the vikings even carried their longships on land to get from one river to another. While other ship traders had to sail all around Europe to get to for instance Constantinople (some vikings became soldiers in the Byzantine army) the vikings simply bypassed all that by sailing on rivers. Until they invented railroads the rivers were the by far best way to carry lots of goods to trade. Last of all their longships were double-ended meaning that they could turn back real fast and row/sail the opposite direction of the situation became difficult. So maybe these trucks are more akin to modern day "longships" rather than the vikings themselves. Fast and can go anywhere. Great for transporting goods long distances.

i agree,, nobody can match this to brands,,,, volvo and scania..

Peter Romberg Yes but the Volvo has an extra 20HP so even if it had some more weight which it probably doesn’t it still should of won...

are both trucks spec the same way aka rear ends and gearing ? cause that plays a factor too . also the v8 versous the straight 6 has a different power ban . there is alot of factors in place before we say this is better than the other .

@@rafailproios4539 No. Those extra 20hp doesn't mean anything in a hill climb. It's the transmission that has to be optimized for it. Compare the Scania in the video vs a Volvo FH750 excavation truck and the excavation truck's transmission has a larger gearing which makes it run on higher rpm.

The scania pulls 62 ton and the volvo pulls 60 ton.

@@stiigern You do you. Both are 60 tons but are made for 64 tons (at least on Swedish roads). But this is in Norway so I don't really know since that road train combination is quite unique in Norway but most common in Sweden and Finland where they're allowed to weigh 64+ tons.

True newzeland

Which equates to about 3% more horsepower, which is negligible in this type of comparison. I don’t know the torque figures for both trucks, but they are effectively producing the same power.

@@motosnape volvo 750hp 3.550nm Scania 730hp 3500nm

Scania v8 has a much better rpm range of torque. Totals are good but the Volvo peaks torque late and then drops off rapidly Scania peaks earlier and keeps a much more torque thorough the rpm. Ir the power band if you like. A straight 6 with a fuck ton of boost vs a v8 with a long power band 👍

It was 9 seconds which is quite a lot in this scenario

@@karlmartin7384 Learn some math please. It's 5,3 sec diff. After 30 years on both of them, they are almost brake even. Sometimes it's all by the driver.

If you watch closely at the beginning the Scania drives away from the intersection while the Volvo driver was stopped by a pedestrian ! That gave a small lead to Scania but if you consider the parameters A ) the Volvo carried more load , it's trailers were filled to the brim , while Scania's trailers were not filled up totally and B ) Volvo closed the gap from around 20 + seconds to just 5 seconds at the checkpoint you have yourself a winner !!!!

@ehsan abdi it's not about horsepower, but newton meters of torque.

@@georgeisaak5321 no kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNSSepN3sZjUaGQ.html

Oh hey you here too? Yea but is still not a good comparison... not well made

@@fab8657 each truck had same weighing load, both truck stopped at start, before they went (he have posted an unedited video of that), they made sure everything was similar. The only difference is that the Scania have 2 more cylinder to work with and different gearbox

We drive same truck buddy :) (from italy)

@@christianverde2498 I got the same truck to i drive from Belgium to Italy :)

well I lived in NZ most of my life, more logging truck/ trailer roll overs than anywhere else in the world, this is cos it is very easy to get a licence there

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I have never seen a Scania here !

I am glad to hear that !!!!

Never seen any European truck in America... If you mean Volvo VNL it's a European brand but made in America. Plus while there's Pete, KW, International etc Volvos are not so economic (expensive parts and maintenance costs)... Cabovers ended in America since 80s since they are not comfortable in american roads. I don't know what America you're talking about... What I say is for north America (Canada, USA and Mexico)... But they do use European buses like Scania, Volvo etc...

You are a liar ! Name one !

you mean USA and I know what you mean but is south America they do have scania here in the states we don't have trucks scania only small cars but here the trucks use straight six engines small trucks use V8 some

In reality depend of many things.This video are a good exemple of what means a v8 with less power but faster uphill.Anyday I prefer a v8 instead a 6 inline.

yes volvo butter

Scania is king

@@evertdutoit5920 ok, you stay with king, and i stay with pm

they both had stop start. only the volvo driver checked his fuel consumption at half way 48.9L/mile... most likely in power mode. But Scania V8's are really good at those hard pulls

Yeah but this is just for fun, nothing they would spend any more time and money doing. In the end these trucks are as good as equal when it comes to performance.

they should be similar, they are both running in power-mode, most likely, Only the Volvo driver checked the fuel consumption (48.9L/Mile at half way) Both Scania and Volvo have low consumption

We did a test a few years ago now at work... Kenworth with 600hp Cummins, 700hp Volvo and 650hp Scania.... it was a 330km loop, loaded to 58t gross... the Kenworth was worst on fuel, Volvo 30lt better and Scania 50lt better than the Volvo...

sen duvida as duas melhores marcas .do mundo scania e volvo

@@ageununesdasilva8270 Hauling in NZ . kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJhig72jq5_WZ5c.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMp8ftenlcnDoI0.html .. highway haulage..50 tons kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7dmorOi2ci2oX0.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga16h9phnN-2dps.html .. 57 ton chip hauler . kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6-Ior2ry6iue2Q.html ..200 ton off highway loggers , kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZNyodqqp7GZeJ8.html .Classic trucking.39T

@@ageununesdasilva8270 Actros

@@user-le1zw5jq3d sai nem na foto kkk

Now they are copying the retarder to be released soon as their exhaust brake is shit in comparison

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Lol you really think the air will be "much colder"???

Volvo has a 6 sylinder and scania has a v8 and volvo is right behind 😄💪💪💪 volvo viking power 😄💪💪💪 can you imagine a volvo with a v8 and guess the outcome? 😂

@@djblitzy1Объем одинаковый, количество цилиндров на тягу не влияет.

Pulling this weight I would be opting for ATD with hub reduction.

tsint samma regler som hos oss.

Yeah a shit load😂

7mp if your lucky I’d say more like 2 or 3 mpg over that climb

Liters by hour to be honest, or meters per galon. Not Miles! 😎

which ever way you want to put it, the outcome is still the same

only the Volvo driver bothered checking apparently.... about 48.9L/mile at half way, I bet they are both driving the truck in power-mode (not so economical......)

Neither actros nor an xf cannot pull this much of weight

Actors rolled back down the hill LOL worsts trucks ever made

Dyfer ratio is very important

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They were carrying 60T each, witch is the max here in Norway and Sweden

This place is in Norway and its called Setesdal 😀😉

Rio blyth yes please ! I was looking for this comment. Got the answer ?

@ Jesse Gallagher - Horses & Trains

Rio blyth thanks !

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Volvo has a 6 sylinder and scania has a v8 and volvo is right behind 😄💪💪💪 volvo viking power 😄

Verdade os Daf são feras

Valle/setesdal

Doubt it. All the setup and preparations would have been for nothing if that were the case. It would have been pointless for all involved. If you pause at the middle of the very first transition after the intro, you can see that Scania was standing still.

Scanian stoppet også helt opp. Bare videoen som er klippet til da den kjørte avgårde. Har bevis på dataen :)

kjæmpefeil

Scanian sto helt stille før start. Jeg har bare klippet videoen til da den startet har gode bevis på min pc om folk trenger det. Her er lik last pålt på vekt og like retferdig start på begge

@@modshopnorge5715 nå er jeg Scania fan selv men når du klipper det til slik så tviler til å med jeg. Hadde nesten forventet at 750en skulle vinne. Ble forbruket målt?

@@kjemad skjønner. Tror ikke jeg får til å endre nåverene fil men skal få laget en ny med bare starten på di å få lagt ut.. kun volvo sjåføren som kom på å sjekke forbruket 48.9 L på mila midt i bakken

Var nøyaktig lik vekt på bilene tot 60T Fikk ikke sjekka forbruket men blir nok mer av disse testene til nesteår så skal få med alt da :)

Ross Brown actually there are another video proving they both went from a standing start. Don't be mad that a v8 blows all over a inline6 it's pretty obvious that will happen. There is the link below hehe kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNSSepN3sZjUaGQ.html

Scania também iniciou parado... Scania also starting STOP, idem volvo... See first seconds video

Both were stopped. So stop crying

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A small difference in power on paper, but in reality as good as zero difference. Many other things weigh in like new vs older engine, adjustment of engine, degree of service, tire pressure, type of transmission, the driver and so on. And total weight naturally. Hey, this is not high science, there are some +/- here and there. All in all just confirm that the power of the trucks is as good as equal.

Here you have the non edited start from the beginning kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNSSepN3sZjUaGQ.html

@@Rimrock300 I totally agree with you. For that reason the test is not conclusive.

Kkkk

Sempre a mesma historia.

Tem varios teste que o Scania 730 foi melhor na subida que o volvo 750 .. com mesmo peso e com a mesma relação de diferencial.

Só se for teste do ETS

@@danielsoccol vou te mandar aqui varios teste para você! E leia direitinho ok .. nao fico vendo youtube. Dirijo e proucuro saber do que realmente esta acontecendo.

Valle in Setesdal Norway:)

@@modshopnorge5715 Thank you very much.

Volvo c'est mieux

Valle/Setesdal NORWAY

@@modshopnorge5715 24m i norge?! Häftig film 👍

Scanian also stood completely still. I cut the video when he started and made it as short as possible. so I have evidence of the data that scanian also stood still. should see if I can make a video from the start of the video and post it

@@modshopnorge5715 ah, in the video it looks like it gets a rolling start

Guess what ...nobody stopped the Scania first of all , the Volvo was stopped by someone and that made some difference for a while but the Volvo even with a bit more load on it's back climbed that hill closing up and at the checkpoint had just 5 seconds of difference which means it was gradually accelerating faster than the Scania while UPHILL . That's how you compare two trucks of similar horsepower !!!!

@@georgeisaak5321 Both truck was stopped, it was the editing that made it look different. They have posted an unedited video. Both truck weighted 60 tons

Knut Olav Homme you didn’t edit shit. Where is the weight bridge. Why has Volvo got three trailers. Don’t take us for fools

Yeah it also had more logs on the trailer as well.

Yeah and also Volvo have more power/Nm and slower with 5s

Both weighter exactly 60T, they did everything after the book. What we do notice in the Video, is in area with steep incline, the Scania increase it's lead, and in area with less incline Volvo catch up... It might come down to that Scania V8 are really good at hard pull, it's almost as the Scania pulls better under "BIG" load

Theoretical horsepower doesn't give much sense in this competition with truck engines so close in performance. Like just 10% less airpressure in general for the Volvo trailer compared to the other, and those 20 hp difference is quickly zeroed out.And the Volvo can be newer and the Scania older and has a runned in engine. and so on