You did just fine ! We aren’t that scary 🤗🤗 PS. That’s me on the other end !
@fordtechchris4 жыл бұрын
Approach Control or Tower?
@jakeknoth4 жыл бұрын
TowerFlower InControl So cool!
@terrya68064 жыл бұрын
Yep still scary!! Talk way to fast for my country ears to follow,,
@ashleydoster90764 жыл бұрын
Tower!
@scottlouis65894 жыл бұрын
That’s cool you commented on his post. Very cool.
@EasyTarget8924 жыл бұрын
You talk at the start about the others you fly with also being apprehensive about flying in controlled airspace and talking on radios, so you steer clear. This means as time goes on your saturation point will become lower. Why not go out with one of these friends in the same aircraft and take turns - one flies, the other works the radios, then switch. You’re comfort level will increase quickly when you’re only concentrating on one thing, whether that be flying the aircraft or dealing with the radio. Eventually you’ll get your groove back.
@chrisbowpiloto4 жыл бұрын
Darren Keast that is an excellent idea! I learned and taught others how to handle flight following by doing just that
@JPascal614 жыл бұрын
Very good idea!
@musoseven82184 жыл бұрын
Darren Keast That's a great idea!
@maleficentcop27524 жыл бұрын
This is a very good idea...we do this in EMS as well... It makes sense, I imagine the commercial flights are doing something similar....👍👍👍👍
@edwindavidson18954 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea!
@motorheadridermotorheadrid81814 жыл бұрын
I imagine it’s kind of like driving on the freeway being surrounded by cops. You have no reason to be nervous, but you are.
@markmcgee58344 жыл бұрын
I do, in fact, know just what you mean.
@davidfreshour11094 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jacksoncampbell49224 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly it.
@dougbourdo25894 жыл бұрын
LOL. Was a Motor Officer for 11 years of my 28+ years total LEO. I Loved having fun with fellow motorists when working. No worries folks.
@Cam_Wight4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the feeling
@Euryheli4 жыл бұрын
Airline pilot here. You did great, sounded like you knew what you were doing and the nerves didn’t come across on the radio. Nothing to be nervous about, when I’m flying around and hear you guys on the radio I’m jealous that you’re out having fun while I’m working. Love your videos.
@crammydavisjr58134 жыл бұрын
Your only radio call that made me smirk was reading back, “winds calm” on takeoff. Good work getting out of your comfort zone, Trent!
@@jeeefthegreat7555 Do you even fly airplanes? Or are you just here to act like a jerk? Only pilots are allowed to be jerks.
@mackdlite59004 жыл бұрын
@@jeeefthegreat7555 Count me in!
@devono23184 жыл бұрын
yep all you gotta say is fly runway heading, cleared for takeoff 8JJ. not as bad as my worst call by any means when I said the F*** word over the radio after being cleared to land.
@richardcollins38254 жыл бұрын
The tower is so professional...you know they were thinking how awesome it was to have the Freedom Fox at their airport!!!
@tylerw14184 жыл бұрын
When he says “radar contact I see you at 1,600” You say “ that’s a big 10 4 good buddy, rolling on strong at 16 lookin for some open black top to set this rig down on breaker breaker”
@Ashphinchtersayswhat4 жыл бұрын
Or just say...bleep blop ack ack ack..ack ack..speak Zorg to them
@tylerw14184 жыл бұрын
Eric with three last names. Lol
@rags4174 жыл бұрын
"I can't hold them, there's too many of em !" "Stay on target ! Stay on target !" "It's just like shooting Whomp rats back at Beggar's Canyon" are all acceptable responses.
@JonathanCalkins4 жыл бұрын
I just about fell off my stool laughing so hard
@midwestpilot60794 жыл бұрын
Proper response: “position checks”
@paulschannel30463 жыл бұрын
When I was a student pilot in the late 70's, my instructor told me all you ever have to do is tell ATC who you are, where you are and what you want to do. It's never failed. You DON"T have to sound like a line captain. BTW.... you did GREAT.
@ljfinger4 жыл бұрын
Talking to ONE CONTROLLER - panic. Talking to a quarter million KZfaq viewers, - no problem.
@esalenchik4 жыл бұрын
ljfinger 🤣🤣🤣
@NenadKralj4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest that Trent try get rid of some fier w/ Tower!3D Air Traffic Control | Flight Simulator (probably would help) - practice more practice! Fight fire w/ fire !
@camhollo11394 жыл бұрын
Nenad Kralj I don’t see how that analogy applies but yeah, Trent requires the practise
@vitalis4 жыл бұрын
Talking to KZfaq, if it goes bad = downlikes Talking to Tower, if it goes bad = death
@TheyForcedMyHandLE4 жыл бұрын
thing is that he's talking to a camera
@cozyflying95184 жыл бұрын
Tower: "Say intentions" Me: "Well I hope to have private pilot training done in about a month, then I want to start on my Instrument rating, maybe one day CFI"
@TrentonPalmer4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@cozyflying95184 жыл бұрын
@@TrentonPalmer Thanks for the vids... super motivational!
@arthurbabcock7054 жыл бұрын
Haha, this just happened to me the other day...
@scottlouis65894 жыл бұрын
YES! 🤣
@lukepikoulas21264 жыл бұрын
did you get it done??
@mojogrip4 жыл бұрын
LOL, You did great man. Talking on the radio was probably the most intimidating part of flight training for me. Flying in Socal busy airspace you've got no choice but to talk someone over the radio while your right hand is constantly pushing buttons to change frequencies. Intimidating at first but you learn to pick things up in no time.
@danielmichel70003 жыл бұрын
yo mojo luv your stuff alot, keep it up
@abhishekdev2583 жыл бұрын
Hey bro love your stuff.
@The.Alabama.Woodsman4 жыл бұрын
I was a cop for 20 years. When I first started I felt the same anxiety when talking to my dispatcher. I was afraid I wouldn't understand her, then look stupid to others with a panicked reply. It all went away when my FTO told me to slow down and think before I spoke. The extra second or two is not an issue. The anxiety at times, was almost crippling; I hated talking on the radio. I was originally taught to "get on and off" the radio; making transmissions quick but, until I got comfortable, I had to slow down.
@ambiguity223 жыл бұрын
FF here, I always tell cadets "It's a push-to-talk button, not a push to think button".
@flywiththeguys4 жыл бұрын
You're doing just fine. Everyone gets intimidated flying in and out of controlled airports. I fly out of one under the Bravo curtain. I'm so used to talking to tower that I get intimidated in uncontrolled airports. Great video though and I'm glad you made it. There's been a great push recently for pilots to share their mistakes and weaknesses and I love it. We're human and not perfect, but as pilots we all try to make people think we are. Thank you for sharing this.
@smithnyiu4 жыл бұрын
The most important things a pilot needs to know when they are in the air are the next 3 things. If you can anticipate the calls and handoffs it makes it easier and you are less tense. And you did a great job, having not done it in a while.
@Richard-iu9sf4 жыл бұрын
Trent, as a 29 year retired air traffic controller and a private pilot since 1983, don’t worry about “clogging things up!” The controller will tell you if they are “unable” your request just as she did when you asked for a stop and go. I told all my ATC students when they were learning and getting exasperated, “We are here for them, they are not here for us!’ Good work learning!
@StingFlight4 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable! I just blew through 2,700 hrs, since taking my 1st flight lesson on my 65th birthday 9.5 years ago--and have never spoken to a controller, ever! You're making me want to go do it!
@CorbinAviation4 жыл бұрын
Love it Trent....the honesty and transparency around being nervous talking on the radios and how you captured that. Many people should be able to relate to this. I fly in and out of the busy DFW Bravo airspace and come across pilots all the time that are uncomfortable or intimidated on the radios. You did a great job showing this "live". Great work on this video!
@samuelsmith48134 жыл бұрын
Just read back what you were given and comply!
@CorbinAviation4 жыл бұрын
@@samuelsmith4813 Close but that won't quite get you by. That is actually part of the issue as people believe they have to read back what they were given. Especially in a busy class B. For instance, you wouldn't read back the winds that were given to him; as he knew wasn't needed. If you read back everything you were given you'd really add too much to the transmission. You wouldn't read back "watch for wake turbulence". Another example, when told to "Ident" you wouldn't need to read that back.....you would just Ident. That would be your way of communicating it back. Lots of other examples where you don't need to read back what you are given.
@haroldnelson37344 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!! However, trying to get it out of my tongue-twisted mouth while trying not to hyperventilate because of nervousness...that takes it to a much more complicated level. Sometimes, I just want to make it back home to my little airport without crying.
@michaelsteven10904 жыл бұрын
@@CorbinAviation but figuring out wasn't isn't needed is not difficult.
@CorbinAviation4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsteven1090 Nope, not at all. Easy stuff for certain. But many people struggle with it when they don't live and breath it on every flight. That's the point Trent is making.
@CPurdiePlays4 жыл бұрын
When I was learning how to fly I had more anxiety talking to the tower than actually flying.
@cember014 жыл бұрын
not unusual.
@Mike-vs3dv4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@joshish98844 жыл бұрын
As an air traffic controller I can tell you for sure that you did fine. I completely understand being nervous, I was super nervous early on flying in controlled airspace too. Make sure to remember that the people on the other end are humans too and most of us want to serve you as the customer and help you get what you want. You did great, nothing to worry about.
@MarcusGarfunkel4 жыл бұрын
I’m very impressed you suit up and do what’s uncomfortable, and bring us with you. You did great!
@pandvsims4 жыл бұрын
A friend once pointed out that everything I wanted in life was on the other side of my comfort zone! I think about that often and push myself to get there and claim my prize. You did that here!
@BmHabib0174 жыл бұрын
As someone who flies out of Charlie's and Delta's all the time, you did fine! responding "affirm" is your best friend :)
@yoshyoka4 жыл бұрын
Wilco and say again are also pretty good buddies :D
@BmHabib0174 жыл бұрын
@@yoshyoka "Say again" is the motto of GA
@yoshyoka4 жыл бұрын
@@BmHabib017 :D
@dylanstapp4 жыл бұрын
Brian flying in Delta airspace can get really stressful
@evilbrat53764 жыл бұрын
Me would be "Say What.....Repeat Please! Grounded. #must confess - - non pilot
@Hendrixdh4 жыл бұрын
"I'm at six thousand eight hundred"..."We've got you at sixteen hundred.".."Yep, that sounds about right." lol
@motionlessmerc89364 жыл бұрын
they were talking to a different plane
@SamSheffer1174 жыл бұрын
@@motionlessmerc8936 That is false, Trent was using MSL and tower was using AGL. Reno international field elevation is approximately 4400 ft. MSL. Trent said he was 6800ft MSL tower said he was 1600 AGL. 6800-1600=4400ft.
@yamkaw3464 жыл бұрын
Sam Sheffer Interesting. Never heard a class Charlie use agl.
@jaredvanbergen79044 жыл бұрын
@@SamSheffer117 That's some quick, and incorrect, maths... 6800ft - 1600ft is 5200ft, not 4400ft. :)
@X3sA4 жыл бұрын
@@jaredvanbergen7904 lul
@gregmink4 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when a TP video posts. Enjoy your content greatly.
@paulmarchi13934 жыл бұрын
As a young pilot who flew in towered airspace only twice, it makes me feel less alone when I see someone with a lot of flying experience like you feel uncomfortable in controlled airspace. So thanks for that ! (also english isn't my main language so sorry if i did any mistakes)
@137_DeathValleyCAL4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst64924 жыл бұрын
English is my first language, your's was spot on way better than my english :)
@pappybo494 жыл бұрын
English isn’t my 1st either, it’s East Texan, but I’m able to stumble through. It’s amazing how well those ATC dudes can handle just about any semblance of English or foreign accent.
@tomcoryell4 жыл бұрын
Steve Bodine- East Texan ,LOL!
@jonathanguthrie93684 жыл бұрын
I've mentioned several places that I got my airman's certificate in college and did not fly for 30 years and that I recently started flying again, My instructor, who had also a decade-long gap in his flying experience, mentioned that mike fright was probably going to be a thing. Even though we fly out of a controlled field, I was skeptical because I had trained originally at a class charlie airport, but it definitely was a problem. What I wound up doing was listening to LiveATC at that airport and pretending that every ATC call was for me, and I'd say the appropriate response out loud back to them. It seemed to work for me.
@XCalibur634 жыл бұрын
It takes a real pilot to show a video like this. My favorite one so far!
@GoProXadventures4 жыл бұрын
“I might be a little rusty with towers so I’m going to fly into one.” *chooses a busy class C airspace*
@ParadigmUnkn0wn3 жыл бұрын
Could've been a Bravo
@nunyab..2 жыл бұрын
There is no other tower airport near Reno
@Sirmellowman4 жыл бұрын
Dude I completely understand your anxiety 100% man. That shit stresses me out just watching videos of people doing it.
@Brian-cj4bj4 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Simple, humble vulnerability that is useful to anyone learning to fly. Thanks for sharing and your honest approach to sharing your experience. :)
@GravityKnightFlying4 жыл бұрын
I learned in class C, but now days, flying 99.9% in the backcountry/off-airport etc. I feel the exact same way. Much rather face a short landing on a hill than deal with ATC.... lol.... funny how that works. I force myself to do the same thing you did now and then and it does help.... but it also gives me a headache and high blood pressure and I'm sure shaves my life expectancy down a bit!
@tracemitchell73584 жыл бұрын
Every controller I know is more than happy to do a tower or center tour and help with anything you have questions about. Also flying with an instructor or getting a radio and just sit near an airport and listen or tune to departure, center, and arrival freqs. But I think the best would be to find an instructor or friend to fly with you who has more experience with BCD airspace and can talk you through it. Practice is the name of our game
4 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a student pilot on class B KLAX Airspace I used to get really nervous like that. I flew through the active Dodger Stadium TFR and was asked to call a number on landing. That was the scariest day of the year!
@KadeMack77004 жыл бұрын
As someone who did all of their flight training in class D and C airspace, ATC wasn’t ever something that scared me. It gets much easier the more you work with them, and 90% of controllers are nice people. Don’t be afraid to make mistakes because mistakes are how we learn! And just remember, controllers are humans just like you. As always, love the videos Trent. Hope to someday see the Freedom Fox in person.
@slidewaze4 жыл бұрын
Only 90? :^)
@boathouse42024 жыл бұрын
I’m literally sitting in science class day dreaming of flying... sees Trent posts a video!!!
@theclephane29144 жыл бұрын
You have as much right to be there and do what you want as any other aircraft! Don’t feel rushed, do what you need to do! It takes PRACTICE! You did well Trent!
@BeckiandChris4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! “Position and altitude checks” is what I say... or sometimes just roger
@sledawgpilot4 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest things about aviation is that there’s always another challenge if you want it.
@davidtesch32054 жыл бұрын
The guys in the Alaska Airlines plane are probably saying holy crap its Trent Palmer !!!!!!
@esalenchik4 жыл бұрын
David Tesch 🤣🤣🤣
@cember014 жыл бұрын
LMAO. I was thinking they probably wish they were flying that KitFox. But your comment cracked me up.
@Euryheli4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’d have said hi if that had been me.
@NickSchrader4 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for being so honest and making a video like this, Trent. I used to get so mad at myself during my training. I'd have no problem on the radio in the pattern at my little non-towered airport, but as soon as I was talking with ATC, I would stumble over my words. It's always been and remains to be the most difficult part for me. It is very encouraging and inspiring to learn that such a skilled pilot as yourself has similar experiences. For only 4 times into class C, you sounded great! I haven't flown into a towered airport in some years, but you've inspired me to venture back in soon. Love your videos man, keep up the great work.
@ofdlttwo4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I am a firefighter who spends every summer in California fighting fires with the National Guard as a crew member. I think it is great/amazing that you are willing to create a video demonstrating ones insecurities. EVERYONE has felt what you felt on this video. It is great to share. .
@eddieforward57704 жыл бұрын
I chuckled through the whole video. I fly out of Chino’s Towered airport and experience all that you demonstrated. It gets seriously more challenging when the operators are speeding up their communications because they have a lot of traffic. Sometimes I have difficulty just getting in touch with them as they are so busy with other traffic. Sometimes a 360 turn is the only way to avoid their space as you wait your turn on the radio. I think you handled it well. Im looking forward to some off airport stuff after 130 hours in my Kitfox now.
@larrysouthern50984 жыл бұрын
Hat off to you sir all that chatter give a lot of low time pilots the willies!! Very intimidating!!!
@type1aviator6684 жыл бұрын
Chino is a fun place, did my first few hours of training there. You're not kidding when you say that place gets busy, flight school planes, warbirds, and biz jets all day!
@lellius4 жыл бұрын
At least he's not one of those guys who keys the mic and then rambles on forever.
@unclemuir4 жыл бұрын
I have flown over to Flo's for many years. Some weekends it can be very busy on the radio there.
@ryanhostetler94374 жыл бұрын
Great video! One of my first times in controlled airspace, tower said right turn-out approved, thought he was saying right turn-not approved. Turned into a Laurel and Hardy skit ending with an upset tower saying, you’re cleared out of “my” airspace. Fun day!
@seangetsinger58814 жыл бұрын
I feel so much better knowing you hate and struggle with controlled air space and tower talk. It’s the one and only reason I haven’t got my pilot license yet. Love what you do, keep up the great work!!
@bradbutcher39844 жыл бұрын
I've always been nervous about getting my PL because of having to talk to ATC. Thanks for sharing that some experienced pilots even get nervous.
@jaytrock32174 жыл бұрын
Reminds me when I first started to call in air strikes and artillery.
@Gladius74 жыл бұрын
Yer that would be intense.
@jaytrock32174 жыл бұрын
@@Gladius7 Very. Just like Trent you don't want to bother or cause harm to anyone because of you doing something wrong. Danger Close were the worse though, but at the time you don't have time to think about it.
@Gladius74 жыл бұрын
@@jaytrock3217 Mate Thank you for your service. Yep that would be crazy no second guessing your self I bet. Have you seen a Movie called "Danger Close: The Battle of Long Tan" Its an Australian movie you might like it. I am Aussie to btw. But worth a look.
@Gladius74 жыл бұрын
Danger Close: The Battle of Long Tan - Official Trailer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/latgfZRiktimZ4U.html
@joeh4704 жыл бұрын
@@jaytrock3217 i know that feeling. Only one thing worse tho... That split second after calling for fire and even tho you checked several times you think... Did i just give the target grid or my own... Your eyes shoot to where you wrote it and a sigh of relief comes over
@bcengelhardt4 жыл бұрын
I was an Air Traffic Controller for the Army, and being based under the 2000 ft shelf of the Houston class B airspace, I am constantly talkint to ATC in some way. I still stumble on my words. I get flight following 90% of the time I fly, and I can tell you, even the commercial pilots mess it up.
@CaptSly4 жыл бұрын
Hi Trent, I enjoy your videos! I fly an Airbus at work and a drone for fun...... 😉 If it makes you feel any better I’ve heard much worse so called”awkwardness” by actual airline pilots on the radio. You are doing fine radio work and all it really comes down to is familiarity. Sometimes just responding with your call sign (letting them know you’ve heard) them is all that is really needed especially in situations where there’s no proper response)Keep up the great work sir!
@acrodude254 жыл бұрын
Probably the most honest aviation video I’ve ever watched. Great job!
@lrodpeterson30464 жыл бұрын
My bonafides: Commercial/Instrument, trained at OPF in the '60s when it was the busiest airport in the world. 30 years in ATC, 25 of them in Chicago. I confess I was a center controller, but from our side, the rules/comms are exactly the same, center or tower. Here are a couple of observations: Don't get hung up on saying your callsign. When you're engaged in a series of transmissions which are obviously between you and the controller, it's patently apparent who you are. There is no need to engage in a rogering contest using your callsign on each transmission. It's also not necessary to read back EVERYthing. "318JJ, wind calm, runway 16R, cleared for takeoff," really only needs the read back on cleared to go, and frankly, in that specific instance, your accelerated movement onto the runway and down it is a pretty good substitute for a verbal readback. Although I've been retired a long time (22 years today), I've been nauseated by the increase in the use of the nauseaatingly Hollywood terms of "roger that", and "copy that". Every "roger" (the approved phraseology) is an implicit acknowledgement of "that". And I don't recall seeing "copy" as a synonym to "roger" anywhere in the ATP (our procedures manual). Nothing is improved by adding "that". I'm sure I'm an increasingly minority opinion as I'm hearing it more and more even on the controller side. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. Just keep in mind that what a controller wants to hear on initial call up is "who am I, where am I, what do I want to do?" The rest is conversation. You ask, I respond. And no one in ATC, especially in the towers, is out to write up a pilot for poor phraseology. I say "especially in the towers" because that's where the lowest common denominator of flying experience is found. In the center, 99% of the users are instrument rated, which implies an advanced level of training and experience. At the towers, there are a lot of FLIB drivers with wet licenses. As a controller, we want to treat them equally. Sometimes that's beyond their competence level, but it doesn't take a lot to better the experience. Also keep in mind that a lot of controllers are also pilots.
@FVBmovies4 жыл бұрын
So cool you took time to respond. Thanks!
@AllenMorris34 жыл бұрын
roger wilco that!
@AaronRobertson4 жыл бұрын
Hey Trent, I learned in a Class C towered airport, John Wayne in Orange County. Sometimes, you can reply with your N# (last three if already been talking to them). After you have repeated your instructions and they give you more information, sometimes just before landing, you can respond with your last three to acknowledged the transmission. We live in super crowded airspace and sometimes have to wait to talk to SoCal Approach because they are so busy. And sometimes we are #3 following others and landing parallel to large aircraft. (There is a different tower radio for each runway) Good practice though! Glad to see you doing it. I remember how daunting it was to work the radio as a student and doing all the solo cross countries in the busy airspace. And I am still working on my tailwheel endorsement but have no plans for landing on mountain tops! Will start with big open deserts...
@CaptainReverendo4 жыл бұрын
Solid. At least you didn’t say “with you” or “ahhhhh...”. If you’re concerned about wake turbulence there is no penalty for waiting an extra 1-2 minutes. Good vid thanks!
@thunderturtle20464 жыл бұрын
"Argh, I didn't say my tail number again!" - at least you didn't refer to them as your home airfield. Twice...
@Justin-hp3fe4 жыл бұрын
Trent, pilot edge is a great tool to practice communicating with ATC efficiently and effectively. Im a student pilot and its helped me gain confidence without leaving my house.
@larrysouthern50984 жыл бұрын
You can use it with a lof fightsim programs...Jon Fy uses them in his videos...Good advice!!!
@benmethvin89134 жыл бұрын
Golf cart battery charging
@paulbergman82284 жыл бұрын
So is ‘Say It Right’ @ Air Safety Institute on the AOPA or Wings websites.
@geraldhenrickson74724 жыл бұрын
I was sweating while you did this. Its hard to believe how a simple thing like this is so stressful. Wow.
@landofgiants84514 жыл бұрын
Hey Trent! Im a Approach contoller and most pilots say "position checks" when we radar contact them if that helps. but I don't think there's set phraseology for that and I think your transmissions sounded great 👍
@benward874 жыл бұрын
Dude this is great. I'd say it's refreshing to know I'm not the only one who gets flustered or feels overwhelmed with controlled airspace... thanks for being vulnerable and willing to show the not-so-cool but human side of flying. I think that is what is so awesome about Aviation is you should always be getting better and learning.
@ryanabney53964 жыл бұрын
I share the same struggles, I own and fly a Mooney and most places that my wife and I go, I try to avoid towers if possible. I'm based at an uncontrolled field as well. You actually sound seasoned on the radio compared to most pilots I hear while on frequency. Rock on man!
@shaddforester95104 жыл бұрын
One of my first flights back into towered airspace after a 13 year break in flying I circled outside the delta for about 20 minutes trying to get the courage up to make the initial radio call lol
@AbreedApart1234 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see someone that I see as experienced in flying having some anxieties and experiencing these "newbie" moments with you is very awesome. I look forward to the day I have the time available to dedicate to such a wonderful hobby of freedom. Keep em coming Trent! Ps. The house came out great!
@dontask89794 жыл бұрын
I don't even fly, but I can see where I would rather land anywhere but someplace that crowded
@ryanryessir4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man... I see a Trent Palmer video, I press like.
@MrGaryGG484 жыл бұрын
Yup, there's a lot of that going on!! ;^)
@Mike7478F4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Merry 🎄
@AlphaRomeoBlackburn4 жыл бұрын
So true :-P
@mattmansell34864 жыл бұрын
Do you wait till the end so that way it doesn't feel disingenuous
@nemo2274 жыл бұрын
@@mattmansell3486 I press "like" near the beginning.
@journeyman43284 жыл бұрын
The most stressful part of my training. Thanks for taking me back there. (Stress level 10.) 😂🤣 Great job!!
@PBoogerwood4 жыл бұрын
I actually LOVED this. I’m not a pilot but am fascinated by it all and loved this. Truly.
@jakeb929804 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite vids so far. Really enjoyed this one.
@neelmehta1004 жыл бұрын
„Ready for take-off“ 😱 One of the main factors of the Tenerife accident and the reason why the changed the phrase. Loving the video though. Keep it up!
@kevincollins80144 жыл бұрын
The only mistake I really caught was ready for takeoff call. Only the tower says takeoff . We as pilots tell them we are ready for departure or ready in sequence. But still no big deal don't beat yourself up brother. Keep doing what you're doing and believe me it'll get easier and more automatic.
@TrentonPalmer4 жыл бұрын
Well I just learned something! Thanks man!
@kevincollins80144 жыл бұрын
I wasn't really intending to criticize truthfully but they did just recently began enforcing that phraseology supposably that help to prevent runway incursions. Keep up the great work and awesome videos thanks Trent and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@azrad8884 жыл бұрын
@@kevincollins8014Its always good to get input to perfect our phraseology. If ever I meet a controller, Id like to ask what are pilots most annoying wrong calls.
@jcheck64 жыл бұрын
"We as pilots tell them we are ready for departure or ready in sequence." Or November XXX holding short 16 Right.
@highpointview2564 жыл бұрын
I agree. Only the tower says "take off". When I'm cleared for takeoff, I reply " Nxxxx is rolling on xx, ..." (Technically it's more correct to always end with your tail number, but it's better declarative English with N number first.). I am always impressed, if not appreciative, by how towers are usually very accepting of nonstandard phraseology as long as it presents no ambiguity.
@barrysimmons47244 жыл бұрын
Hats of to ya, great job and you unashamedly hung it all out there for all to see and hear. Thank you so much for being human. ❤🇺🇸❤
@muttclugg4 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos Trent but this is one of your top ones. It was a very honest insight into your life as an airman. Thanks for sharing.
@jscusvi4 жыл бұрын
That was a little awkward. 😎 I'm your polar opposite. I learned to fly out of Chicago Midway and had to deal with ATC and commercial airline traffic from day one. Intimidating, but by the time I soloed, no big deal. Bush landing? Never. 😄
@justanotheraviator23574 жыл бұрын
Same, I have that experience out of KAUS. It's just something different I guess. You learn it with all the ATC and now when you have a lack of ATC feels weird to me.
@duncandmcgrath62904 жыл бұрын
Same here , got trained in the North with two flight schools and a large cargo hub ..... steady jabbering
@justanotheraviator23574 жыл бұрын
@@duncandmcgrath6290 it just adds that comfort in the back of mind.
@duncandmcgrath62904 жыл бұрын
Just Another Aviator lol my CFI called his 172 the flying radio.
@Die4dutch24 жыл бұрын
Just Another Aviator yh uncontrolled feels a bit unsafe to me sometimes haha. Like I have to be on high alert the whole time cuz there could be a guy flying in without a radio or doing an opposite traffic pattern to me. With atc I just feel safe knowing they control everything hahah.
@DIGGER198604 жыл бұрын
We're neighbors, I 4wheel near your runway all the time
@dwk52344 жыл бұрын
Hi, Trent! As a pilot (no longer flying due to age and finances)-I learned at towered airports and in controlled airspace, but would be intimidated by your landings in places that I would never consider. Practice makes perfect...try going more to towered airports, just follow the basics of what to say (where you are, what information you have, and what you want to do), and all will be fine. Don’t be freaked by the pace or cadence of ATC, they’ve just done it thousands of times, and you have not (yet). Good experience to have, as it ain’t goin’ to get any less congested in the coming years! Relax and have fun!
@kenhurley44414 жыл бұрын
Great video,,,, and when you get out of your comfort zone,,,,, you become more comfortable! Thanks for taking us along!
@philconey114 жыл бұрын
"Affirm" is my best friend when flying through Bravo and Charlie.
@Niklas75734 жыл бұрын
Great Video, but at 11:06 something really important (at least in europe): Only use "takeoff" to confirm your takeoff clearance! In your case "ready for departure" or "ready" would be correct. Reason for this is the accident at Tenerife. Just thought you might wanna know. :)
@chrisbowpiloto4 жыл бұрын
Niklas that is interesting. It is not like that in the USA. I'll have to look up that accident
@Niklas75734 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbowpiloto I looked it up and in ICAO Doc 9432 it says "Since misunderstandings in the granting and acknowledgement of take-off clearances can result in serious consequences, care should be taken to ensure that the phraseology employed during the taxi manoeuvers cannot be interpreted as a clearance to enter the runway or to take-off." I think that's the "official" reason for it. :)
@chrisbowpiloto4 жыл бұрын
Neat, I learned something new. We definitely have procedures to limit that, but not using the word "takeoff" prior to being cleared is not one of them
@Fact0ry3134 жыл бұрын
Hey Niklas, where do you fly out of? EDHE by any chance?
@TheKillermops4 жыл бұрын
Thanks was about to write the same thing! It's really curious that the FAA has no rule for that! In my training in Germany they took that very seriously ...
@scottfitzgerald54234 жыл бұрын
Trent, great idea for a video. We all have our things we are used to. Thanks for reminding us that we are all learning, all the time.
@danerickson114 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch, speaking as a CFI, CFI-I, MEI, ATP, four type ratings, and current major airline pilot. You did better than you felt like you did. A little unrefined, but clear, concise, and aware. Well done, bro!
@masskilla4694 жыл бұрын
Trent what helps me is I try to own it and sound like the coolest most important Pilot out there like I am flying Air Force One and you're all jealous!! My friends get a big kick out of it when they hear me on the Radio!!
@DSHaddaway4 жыл бұрын
Masskilla469: "Hi, I'm thinking about landing." ATC: "..."
@Runnin4HimXC4 жыл бұрын
Having soloed at KRNO was definitely an experience... it was always interesting when the controller would put ya on 25/7 while sequencing the 737's on the perpendicular
@YammoYammamoto3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing a weaker side... I have always choked up with radios and it was great hearing you fight through that "fear".
@BILLYBOBJohnson-kj2zd3 жыл бұрын
Student pilot here, totally agree about the tower/radio stuff. When I went on the first solo I wrote down the ground and tower calls on the kneeboard and repeated it out loud what felt like a million times while taxiing down alpha. Just takes practice, I'm not there yet but after more radio interactions I'm a little more comfortable. You did way better than me man, at least you calmly play off the hiccups instead of freezing.
@aviatortrevor4 жыл бұрын
"Position checks" instead of "sounds correct." Or you could have even just said your abbreviated callsign alone as an acknowledgement. The important thing is to read back instructions. Additional info can be acknowledged with your callsign or "Roger, [callsign]".
@mathieupaul884 жыл бұрын
Try going in controlled airspace every so often, you'll see how much easier it gets. ATC is there to help you, if you need to wait before departure just ask for it! Great job Trent!
@Sports-Jorge4 жыл бұрын
Being an airline pilot we all do it. A lot of Class B have their own “lingo” and procedures so even we get tripped up sometimes when flying to unfamiliar Bravos. LOL @ requesting “stop & go” - DENIED 🙅♂️
@awlhunt4 жыл бұрын
I thought a stop and go was a bit hopeful too!
@tomsmith30454 жыл бұрын
I think she had to. If that airbus had to go around, we wouldn't want it to go *through* Trent.
@jeremymitchell9954 жыл бұрын
Just doing a YT scroll and lucked into this great video...interesting, charming and full of humility...this guy would make a wonderful teacher.
@freedom4u184 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one that gets befuddled in CT airports
@vendter4 жыл бұрын
When you are told about traffic near you, there are only two responses necessary. "Traffic in sight" or "negative contact". Don't overthink it. Don't say looking for traffic. When departing behind a larger aircraft, you can tell the tower that you will offset 100 yards (left or right) for wake turbulence, then when departing once airborne, go ahead and offset but still fly runway heading. I have never had them deny this request.
@vendter4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthomas2472Please read and become more knowledgeable about proper communications. The Pilot/Controller Glossary is the FAA official document on the subject: www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/pcg_4-03-14.pdf No where in that document is there mention of "looking for traffic". Per the above document, the proper response is: NEGATIVE CONTACT− Used by pilots to inform ATC that: a. Previously issued traffic is not in sight. It may be followed by the pilot’s request for the controller to provide assistance in avoiding the traffic Yes, pilot phraseology has gotten much worse over the years. When you think about it, saying "looking" is just as meaningless as saying "flying". Of course you are looking, are you ever going to say "not looking". All the controller wants to know is do you have the traffic in sight or not. They don't care how you go about seeing it. I guess "looking" is better than "feeling" which would mean an inflight crash. Controllers will figure out what you mean, but it tells them right away that you may need extra attention. Another sloppy transmission is saying "with you" when first contact after a frequency change. Obviously you are "with them", you are on the frequency. You are just wasting bandwidth. You should say your altitude and if you are climbing, descending or level. So it should sound like "Reno approach, Cessna 12345, level eight thousand five hundred".
@PaulZ-mann4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been flying for about 25 years. I had the same problem being uncomfortable using the Radio going into controlled airports. Just like doing STOL Landings, it takes practice, practice, practice. That was an excellent video!
@mogwopjr4 жыл бұрын
I did all my training in Class B airspace as a private pilot. I feel very similar about non-controlled airspace. I suppose it's what you're used to. I didn't like flying with a CTAF at all. It is great to get out of that comfort zone and do new things. Thank you for sharing.
@nicolasfelix14704 жыл бұрын
When Nor Cal states your position, all you need to say back is “position checks” if what he said matches your position. Keep it short and simple!
@NEAerial4 жыл бұрын
Or just, roger. They're telling you where you are, not asking.
@jdjackson71804 жыл бұрын
I feel ya. My first time into John C Tune in Nashville TN, I called Nashville approach and just said "I just wanted to let you know I was here" I had no clue. LOL ~jd
@flyer166124 жыл бұрын
Now that’s funny!!
@slidewaze4 жыл бұрын
Perfect! (Probably made the controller's day as it can get pretty routine after a while.) What was their response?
@jdjackson71804 жыл бұрын
@@slidewaze he just gave me a squawk code. John C Tune is non towered just outside the Nashville Class C. It was my first time around Class C and only had my license a few months. Even though I wasn't going into Class C, I thought it important they knew I was there. I fly out of KCOS class C now but that was 2004. He did not chew me out or anything. But since then when I think about it I cringe at how much of an idiot I was. I was flying out of Paducah KY (class D)
@thelastjohnwayne2 жыл бұрын
Now I know why my plane was late taking off from RNO, it was because Trent was out there playing around. I love Northern Nevada.
@charosenz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. You are not alone (at all) with your apprehensions.
@maxbootstrap73974 жыл бұрын
A kindred spirit. By far the most difficult part of getting my pilot certificate was ... understanding what ATC [and other airplanes] are saying over the radio. And even when I could, to figure out what they mean or want is sometimes difficult or impossible. Great to hear Trent avoids ATC and controlled airspace as diligently as I do! Hahaha. BTW Trent, here is a free (sleazy) tip. When you first contact ATC (especially at a busy airport), tell ATC you're a student pilot. That sometimes helps a fair bit.
@legend7ify4 жыл бұрын
ha ha, he's known on KZfaq by far too many!
@BorisFett4 жыл бұрын
I started my flight lessons at a towered airport to get used to talking with ATC. Makes it much easier to get comfortable with it.
@DutchThackers4 жыл бұрын
I completely understand! Firstly, you did fine so don't stress. I learnt to fly in Scotland and the freedom of flight you have up there is incredible. I now fly in southern France and its insane how controlled it is. You never feel relexed. Always planning ahead your frequency changes, calls, atis, and looking out for a lot of traffic. I miss Scotland 😩
@themonkeydoo34 жыл бұрын
It is cool watching pilots struggle. Im in heli-flight school right now at a towered airport so its nice to see that its not just me
@99GTsleeper4 жыл бұрын
You’re what we call “HUMAN” lol. We’re ALL much more similar than we are different. Cool video man, and humbling in a way that we get to realize that we ALL have those feelings when doing something new or something that we don’t often with muscle memory. Thx for taking us along! Scott
@irongoatrocky23434 жыл бұрын
Trent you need to do this a little more often, it may come in handy some day when you need it! that way you are comfortable doing it.... do it enough it becomes second nature! use it or lose it! aside from that its the etiquette of proper flying not just the remote bush pilots or uncontrolled airspace way of doing things
@andyselarom44623 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty, it's refreshing, and opening to what so many are uncomfortable to admit, it helps you too I'm sure👍
@timhouser78784 жыл бұрын
As a member of the 'not a pilot yet' crowd I can so empathize with the intimidation of the radio and thank you so much for sharing this. It's actually comforting to see others do what I might also do in similar situations. It's actually encouragement to be better on the radio, at least for me. Thank you for sharing.