😂 she's always whining she's a victim poor me poor me

James mouth and temper are still vulgar,I’d rather hear Scheana.😆

@@jeanmcginnis9804 and shceana is still acting like a high schooler lol, and her voice makes im sure 90 percent of vieewers bash their heads into a wall, so you i disagree with you jean

My husband has got mad at me for watching this show cuz he will say “what are u watching!!! Please turn it off I can’t handle those womens screeching” lol I don’t blame him, I have to turn the volume down when the screechers are schreeching . U know what’s really funny, is I got him to watch the show with me for a while… hearing a man like my husbands perspective on this show cracks me up. My husband is a lumber Jack beefy manly man who works on massive machinery all day welding….he is complete opposites of these people but it’s hilarious to see him actually watching the show. He doesn’t keep up with the full storyline but he enjoys seeing them cuz it’s like watching a different species

@@itelluwut4535 Mine stops and looks ,then talks about all the lip fillers and botox….especially RHNJ! 😆

Teaaa

Amen. We aren't blowing in the wind like leaves. We are standing up for something, because we know what's right, no matter what editors show us. Sorry, editors, but your very deceptive, and the kiddos can't see through your crap.

It her own fault

Hamilton

Maybe that is her truth and Tom has been around for years and Ariana also . Dont have to like the actions of your friend but your love and loyalty and compassion makes a friend to the end. Scheana loves from the heart and knows what they were going threw. Ariana drew a line either me or him. What real friend would you be if you turned on another friend because they say so. That is NO friend just a follower. Tom never asked anyone to pick a side did he!!

@@jacquelinevwarren905 We don’t live by those archaic rules anymore. We don’t guilt ourselves or others into accepting the unacceptable. We no longer shame people into forgiving things that are unforgivable. When someone continually shows you who they are, BELIEVE them. Scheana is one of those people, and so is Lala.

Narcissitic

My God, she really is

So she’s always the victim. Apparently you guys eyes on this woman I was up to her shit down she owns up to everything she has done and hasn’t done something that is true losses will never do like Tom Sandoval he will own up to anything.

@@MsNekaa26 huh?

@@MsNekaa26 when did she own up to it because all I heard her do was denying that she’s choosing Tom side while choosing Tom side over and over again all season every conversation she had with Ariana this season was trying to convince Ariana. She needs to forgive Tom. Tom himself isn’t even sorry but it’s Ariana‘s responsibility to forgive him like he is to make him look better to the audience? It’s gross

Sobriety is a good fit for him. He isn’t a dry drunk like Lala.

Maturity and sobriety have been the best things for him. It’s been incredible to watch his growth over the years.

@@jennifer6833 agreed

Was she wrong though? Lmao

It so

The blind leading the blind😒. Just keep those two off The Valley please. I need a long break from them.

She was telling her to stop explaining so much and just say fuck you to the audience cause it's your life not theirs

Lala speaks from a place of authority on nearly everything. It’s really cringe and kind of shows how unaware she is. Also, I’m not gonna lie Bravo continuing to play clips of her over and over again bragging about being a sugar baby with the whole role-play and Emmett. They’re not doing her any favors 😒 I think Charlie was bang on when she said that she needs to take the L on this one. The Golddigger found out it was fools gold and nobody cares next 🎉

Its mind blowing 🤯

The girl is still butt hurt over Stassi 😂

😂😅🤮

It’s tacky,immature and gross.

@@jeanmcginnis9804Yes, just like Scumdoval. It’s all he deserves.

Now that’s funny! 😂😅🤣

But she’s creating life over here 🤪

I disagree. She feels that she always has to explain ‘why’ because others have ASSUMED they thought they knew when they did not.

Exactly, she's trying to justify her shity actions

@@mickyo7171 Actions speak louder than words

@@tracim3080 yes, they do. As a person who feels the need to explain why I did something or why I chose to do x instead of y, I completely understand the explaining-because others believe (in other words, their ASSUMPTIONS) are not why I did what I did or said what I said. Leaving my explanation unspoken has proven to bite me in the azz; therefore, you now know (from the horses mouth so to speak) the ‘why’ behind it. Now, if words don’t match behavior that’s a completely different thing than explaining for understanding.

@@mickyo7171 OK I’m not sure how to explain this to you because you clearly don’t understand what actions speaking louder then words really means I’m gonna go with James example in the after show here we see how Sheena tells us what she was thinking about when it came to her decision to go to that party at Tom Sandoval’s hotel room and then we see what James was thinking about. James thought process was he knows Tom he knows why Tom’s doing this. He put in that thought and consideration, and he set a stance for himself on that’s enough of a reason for me not to go. Versus Sheena, Who was thinking about she was gonna go to that party and just think about everybody else there because she wants to have fun and she’s just not gonna have a standard for who else is going to be at this party as long as she got to have fun and try to spin it in. She was going to give Sandoval a talking to you even though all season we see she always ends up apologizing to Tom. She never holds Tom accountable. She buys every fake tear that man gives Her. So now we know, James has a higher moral standard than Sheena, because it doesn’t even occur to Sheena to set one or think about one The more she explains the more she needs to explain because her actions are telling us very different things than her words because her words are she loves Tom but she knows he did something horrible and she doesn’t want to put Ariana in awkward positions but then she proceeds to constantly put Ariana in the awkward position and constantly make Tom out to be a victim Sometimes you don’t even know what your actions are really saying or what you really believe because in your head you think you’re doing the right thing but then when you’re looking at your actions, they don’t really line up with what’s in your head but you can’t admit that to yourself, but your friends can see it plain as day It’s a push comes to shove type of situation. Sheena had to choose between Tom and Ariana. That’s just reality she was in that position. She had to make choices and every choice she made was with Tom. She picks Tom every time. So she can tell us she’s team Ariana all she wants but we saw with her actions. Her instinct is to go with Tom so that’s where her alliance really is whether she can admit that to herself or not

Right what’s 30 year old says “my intentions were good shouldn’t that matter” That’s children. Children need to have good intentions, and figure out how to get from good intentions to go to actions at 38 I Expect you to understand how to back up your good intentions into good actions. 😂

It’s like that meme “just 2 dumb broads staring at each other telling each other ‘eXaCtLY….’” iykyk lol

Yeah

It’s not “excuses” ,what they said was correct,FACTS!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Why because they are emotional, compassionate and forgiving. That is a good person not those who bring drama, division and control to people. Get over it

yet Scheana is trying to sell that she went to Tom's penthouse for the pure intention of defending her honor. Lol what a joke

James is still hurting , over Rachel

James has morals and standards?!🤣😂🤣😂

@@jeanmcginnis9804 he has more morals and standards, then Sheena, who decided to have none I didn’t say he has a high bar I said he’s actually willing to start setting one. That’s the lesson James seems to have learned by seeing these 40-year-old men act like losers is that when he gets to 40 he needs to be better than that.

@@tracim3080 He’s old enough to learn by now to control that temper and the disgusting things that come out of his mouth.

She can’t even catch her own hypocrisy and it’s so frustrating sometimes

Right like girl you went for a party because you just didn’t think or care

And asking Ariana to defend her "intentions" because she should know that Scheana "went there for a good reason." Girl, even in this interview you said it was because you wanted to continue to party. Clearly whatever conversation she (maybe) had with Sandoval was an afterthought. If you're going to lie, at least commit.

Sceemer just doesn’t get it, does she? And she never will while she is ‘bast frans’ with Liebrows.

I’ll take Lala over that gross bully,Katie ANY day!

Accurate. Ariana was always background and willing to let her shine and Scheana is losing her mind that Ariana is now in front.

Omg you're delusional 😂

Scheana? I think u ment to say Katie 🤣

Word.

Minus James

James seems to be evolving. At least enough to know what the right things to say are. Who he can shit on (Sandoval) and how to treat his partner with respect, from what I can tell. For Katie to have endorsed him, and to continually endorse him, it's gotta be something seen on the cast mate level, too. 🤷‍♀️

@@Ash.Crow.Goddess spot on - Word😉🤗😎

Yeah, because they change from better

What do you know what makes a real friend?

@@jacquelinevwarren905 she is definitely not a real friend, she tries to be everyones friend clearly, and it just doesnt work like that.

Her new daughter will be front and centre at all times. She has no shame and no decorum.

Exactly! Plus those takes were so soon after the affair broke out she's allowed to feel that way and then change her feelings regarding that as we have seen she's still talks to Schwartz and James. The thing Scheana or Lala don't seem to grasp is they keep bringing Ariana into this going to her about how much you miss her ex or telling her u spoke to him about her is weird and annoying

I also loved when Ariana said she doesn’t get angry often and the producers dug through all the seasons to find the only 3 times she got angry! And one was the conversation with Tom! They really be tryna do her dirty.

Well,Ariana did originally give her grown castmates an ultimatum,her or Tom but it didn’t work so she then changed it to her “ boundaries .”😆

@jeanmcginnis9804 not true she always said ppl can do what they want to do and she need to do what's best for her that's always been her creating boundaries for herself

@@mzzthang3912 At the very least Ariana was asking her friends not to talk to Tom about what’s going on with her, and for them not to talk about Tom to her - such a simple request that flew straight over most of their heads.

So succinctly put

Thank you that is right

Tom is a liability so she has to put herself first regardless of who tags along.

Mmm no they aren't

ariana never once said “choose me or we aren’t friends anymore!! 😡😤🖕🏻 you better choose me! it’s me or him!! me or him!!” she calmly, politely, and respectfully said “if this is the choice you are going to make for yourself and i respect it, then this is the choice i will have to make for myself and i would hope you respect it too” it’s two completely tones and delivery. it’s called actions and consequences. the consequence of the action of being tom’s friend is, unfortunately, ariana does not want to be around tom or anyone affiliated with tom. she never threw a fit that people chose tom over her or demanded they chose her, she just let them know what would happen if that’s the decision they went with. now they’re mad she followed through with what she told them would happen? make it make sense

Scheana bringing that up is so lame. Scheana turned her back on Ariana throughout the series anytime the cool girls wanted to be friends with her. Scheana is embarrassing.

But Lala "carried the season" 😂

Katie has always been mean and a bully! Then she doubles down on how she bullied Joe…no apology,no remorse,no accountability….she disgusting!

@@jeanmcginnis9804bullying and telling someone why you don’t like them are not the same thing. Yall have got to stop over using it, that’s why it doesn’t hold the weight it should

@@2mis2TL86 It holds weight for me! Katie bullied that poor girl,called her a “crackhead,psycho,she’s sloppy,dirty,needs to shower,she’ll light her on fire” etc. That’s Not telling someone WHY you don’t like them,that’s name calling and attacking them personably.Katie’s a poor example of a humane being and an overgrown BULLY!

@@2mis2TL86 KZfaq censorship!

Jealous of WHAT?!🤣Ariana was desperate for a friend and said herself that” Katie hasn’t changed in 11 seasons” 🤔and all Ariana did in past seasons was hate on Katie bc Katie is mean and a bully but now their buds? Sounds like a flip flopper and fakery to me.

@@jeanmcginnis9804jealous that Ariana received so much support. Nobody felt pitty for Lauren because she knew Randall was still living with his wife and was not divorced. During that time Lauren used to brag how other women’s men want her. Laurens pissed the gold digger thing blew up in her face. Now she’s desperately trying to rebrand and “be soft” ha reminds me of the men who say “I’m an alpha male” 🙄

JEALOUS why would they be jealous they are all beautiful and talented. I proud how those two love their babies and they would not give being a mother for a spot light. Part of growing up is learning to take the good with the bad. And knowing the differance and that is LaLa and Scheana. Compassion forgiveness understanding that everyone is the same and admitting your wrong pick yourself up and go on. Ariana doesnt want that she wants pitty that is not good it is like cancer it will grow and she will not be happy until she can forgive.

@@jacquelinevwarren905 I couldn’t have said it better!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

So it’s wrong she wants to be friends with her old friend? The one that tried to always include her when everyone else was mean to her. Everyone here only watching one season? Come on. Ariana trying to be a martyr? The hell.

​@@user-sc8ls2vk8b She admitted last week Sandoval stopped talking.

@@user-sc8ls2vk8b he included her in a photo 12 years ago. That does not give him a pass to go and hurt her friends now. The people you associate with or a reflection of who you are, so if she’s desperate to be Tom Sandoval‘s friend, then she can’t be that great of a person, and Ariana can’t mean very much to her even though Ariana is the one Sheena herself says, is actually there for her on the emotional level Tom will buy things and he will party with you but his relationships are shallow. That is all there is to it.

@@user-sc8ls2vk8b🎯👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Tom has a big heart and has been in her life from the start and listen Brock also sees Tom is real so check it No body is better then anyone

😂😂

I heard on an early after show that those are Katie’s shoes. Ari had to borrow them because she was traveling back & forth etc.

In all fairness she probably didn't remember

I think she was in a rage when she said that & didn’t really mean it that way.

Team Lala and Scheana.

No one would watch seriously

@@evas9735🤣You got that right!🎯

Catty comment

How evil

Thats a season 10 scene filmed THE SAME WEEK she discovered. She’s slowly softening that position and it’s fine that she doesn’t remember the exact words she used during one of the worst weeks of her life.

His temper and his foul mouth hasn’t changed much….but if that’s what you call “ awesome” then you don’t have very high standards.😆

She never told anyone they can’t be friends w/ Sandoval- she said she wasn’t willing to be friends w/any1 who chooses to have Sandoval as a friend. What you, and many other people seem to be forgetting is that Ariana never asked any of these ppl to say they were Team Ariana or to say that they would never be friends or never hang out with or never film w/Sandoval again. Scheana & Lala said that on their own, they got a whole lot of public support for trashing Sandoval and being Ariana’s ride or die besties. And that was very much their position in the first few episodes of S11. At Emo night, Scheana even says to Swartz you missed out on the fun, that’s what happens when you choose to hang out w/ Sandoval instead of the group. The first two episodes Lala and Scheana are going in on Swartz telling him he’s an idiot for giving Sandoval a 2md chance. And then Sandoval goes and whines to LVP & Production after Rachel doesnt come back and he has to film his lame bday party w/ only his Billie & his paid entourage- and Lala and Scheana got their marching orders to film w/Sandoval and instead of holding him accountable they tried to get Ariana to co-sign them moving past his fckery & she said no. Even then, Ariana finally gave Scheana what she wanted and told her she wasn’t going to make her choose, just leave her the fck out of it. Bcuz she knew exactly what he was up to - he didn’t have a storyline w/out her and he was trying to paint her as the bad guy, and trying to get any one else to agree, so that the audience would stop focusing on him & turn on Ariana. It’s what he’s ALWAYS done! And she was right, 5 min after she left he had a rage fest and told the rest of cast she didn’t like them and she’s lazy blah blah. Scheana and Lala could have turned around and called Sandoval out on his BS, they could have pointed out that he obvi wasn’t sorry, that Ariana had no reason to believe he was, that he was manipulative and lying and why the fck should they believe him - and it could have been another hero moment for Scheana just like the couch convo last yr. Instead we have this. Scheana wants to have it both ways, she doesn’t like the consequences of her choices. Lala is grasping at straws and back-tracking to justify her own hypocrisy.

Tom is the drama and therefore the reality show meal ticket. I wish Scheana would just say that and admit she hates Ariana for how famous and popular she is now. I would respect the honesty. Instead she does this underhanded things.

@@jakestroll6518 if this was 1990 you would be right but it’s 2024 that’s not entertaining to people anymore A man in his 40s hitting on 20 year olds. Makes people nauseous now. That’s no longer considered oh he’s cool he can score 20 year-old that’s considered. Oh he’s so pathetic. He has to hit on 20 year olds because those are the only ones still gullible enough to believe him. The things he says about women or shit that flew in the 90s but now get guys punched It’s not entertaining or good reality, television hence why they had to pause the show and they put him on lockdown because he was destroying the revenue, because advertisers didn’t want to be seen associated with that kind of behaviour

They’re too old for that kind of messy They’re at the age now we’re supposed to see them grow adapt set some boundaries and have funny failures like now you’re experiencing hangovers the way you might not have experienced them in your early 20s now you kind of want to go to bed early and that’s kind of funny to us after seeing you party hard in your early 20s They’re in their 40s or getting to their 40s I want to see that kind of drama I don’t need to see 40 year olds act like they’re 20 that’s not entertainment that’s just sad Especially since they had a legit drama, that people could relate to this year, like having to settle the dust after one of your friends drops a bomb in your friend group is something a lot of adults can relate to Having to pick sides in your friends is something you have to do as an adult and they’re hard choices to make and that is real emotion and entertainment for us to watch Instead, they tried to act like it wasn’t a big deal, downplay it and make it look like Ariana’s just being a drama queen like we’re not in high school we’re aware you’re not a drama queen if you have emotions being someone does something awful to you What would’ve made great television is seeing these adults behave like adults and have to draw these hard lines for the first time in their lives