How to take a hairpin turn

Рет қаралды 1,054,587

Antoine Schemkes

9 жыл бұрын

Пікірлер: 655

@regulardude2011 4 жыл бұрын

The first guy used counter leaning and was faster than the rest. Nice

@vijendrasharma2904 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@schemkesa 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, he was faster, can go early on the gas, had more control and a safer line. If there was oncoming traffic he wouldn't have to change his line. You can clearly see, the moment he sees the exit, he hits the apex and goes full throttle. Very difficult to keep up with this guy I can asure you ;-)

@giovanniquargentan6198 2 жыл бұрын

first guy is on a crossover bike, not on a supersport bike tho

@ajay9972 2 жыл бұрын

Which explains why he is first.

@binbin6878 2 жыл бұрын

@@giovanniquargentan6198 u can counter lean in a sport bike lol

@dorkster3864 2 жыл бұрын

didn't know we're supposed to turn when there's a hairpin turn, ..that's just the reason why i keep hitting barriers everytime i see a hairpin turn.. thanks mate👍

@maksum3 2 жыл бұрын

I am wondering how u are still alive and typing this 😂😂

@Lucdera 2 жыл бұрын

@@maksum3 He might be laying in the hospital's bed having ropes everywhere holding his head, arms and legs lol

@andor4917 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh 😭😭

@mikeldogelas8910 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you get better soon, fam. I meant that also for how you do hairpin turns 👍

@thatbo8902 2 жыл бұрын

That's a sarcastic response to "why you should turn when you see a hairpin turn" no to how to take them. See this example, it's like the difference between making a funny comment and making a fool of yourself in a comment. Seems similar but there are differences.

@fabiopunk1661 2 жыл бұрын

What people seem to forget when commenting is that a public road is not a race track. So the best lines and style on a road are entirely different. One needs margins to account for traffic and road surface flaws

@TLE1977A 2 жыл бұрын

And this is a prime example of how to get killed by a motorist while riding a motorcycle on the wrong side of the road. New title, "how not to take a hairpin turn on a motorcycle".

@vfgfdfdf 2 жыл бұрын

@@TLE1977A Actually the first guy had a decent line. The rest would probably be dead if there was incoming traffic though.

@user-rp8zv8nl6n 2 жыл бұрын

@@vfgfdfdf especially the third one

@steve0826 2 жыл бұрын

@@vfgfdfdf, Soon, very soon.

@paulyflyer8154 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Never swap safety for road position.

@DaveDayve 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah perfect line for a head on encounter with opposite traffic.

@skiddlyd.244 2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao I wonder what you think is preventing all the four wheelers from hitting each other if that was going into oncoming traffic.

@DaveDayve 2 жыл бұрын

@@skiddlyd.244 u must be a 6 yr old then, see other comments further down

@davidmoore1477 2 жыл бұрын

😉😆😆😆😆😆

@mcr0741 2 жыл бұрын

First guy: Trail braking, taking advantage of shortened rake, counter leaning ✅ Second guy: no counter leaning or trail braking, but has his speed in check ✅ Third guy: Fuck it bike go brrrr...

@mcr0741 2 жыл бұрын

@Tito Dwi Laksono oh man that sounds painful. 🥲

@amayu4139 2 жыл бұрын

You don't know what you are talking about.

@mcr0741 2 жыл бұрын

@@amayu4139 right... Maybe I could be wrong. You have something you wanna correct me on? 🤔

@krunoklol 2 жыл бұрын

Third guy got lazy and took the turn wider and faster (not actually faster) and counter steered through. Fine for now but when there's oncoming traffic he'll run into some big trouble.

@mcr0741 2 жыл бұрын

@@krunoklol yep 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Plissken84 2 жыл бұрын

That last guy would have hit a oncoming car

@schemkesa 2 жыл бұрын

Yep he would, or had to change his line. Either way, not the best line you can choose for a hairpin, unless you're absolutely sure there is no oncoming traffic (but you're never 100% sure)

@atwack8582 2 жыл бұрын

i acted like the 3rd guy a few days ago and missed a car by only a few inches, thought I was good until realised I had ended up on the whole other side of the road, staring at cars coming toward me. Swerved back onto my side of the road and In a panic, hit the curb, dropped my bike and scratched my fearings. I was lucky I was riding with mate and he helped me pick the bike up, this turns up at the top of my KZfaq feed today and I think I’m being told something. it’s an important skill, and not one to overlook, and it’s always useful to practice turns in an empty parking lot or something. I’m an inexperienced driver and I got too confident. Drive smart, not fast, and if you ever have an accident, make sure you learn from your mistakes, because I believe everything happens for a reason, and maybe it’s the only way you’ll learn, besides, you’ll never really know when it might just save your life. Drive safe out there.

@adolfemmanuelesparas3922 2 жыл бұрын

Leaning are for boys, Counterleaning are for Legends

@jeffslade1892 6 жыл бұрын

Oh dear, - start the turn wide, go wide of the apex so you can exit tight. Maximise your turn radius. If you cut in on the apex you will exit wide. There's usually marbles on the inside of the bend, cars and trucks sweep debris there, avoid that area.

@schemkesa 2 жыл бұрын

True, always a late (very late) apex on public roads so you can exit tight

@sonnyodare9338 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a road not a race track.

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@sonnyodare9338 yep, that's why you start wide. You can see more. You don't lean as much. You don't go in the marbles. And you don't exit wide into the path of the oncoming truck

@redpilledpatriot8484 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffslade1892 how do you start wide in this scenario if the lane your speaking about starting wide in is completely taken up with oncoming traffic?

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@redpilledpatriot8484 all three bikes here do start wide but then cut into the apex and the last two exit wide into path of oncoming. My point was, "it you cut into the apex". Here I take a very tight hairpin which the car ahead cannot negotiate. The turn is as tight as a 180 turn in a two-lane road. The apex and exit is covered in wet leaves. Note UK drives on left but road is single lane, use the whole road but right of way is on left. The leaves on the exit disguise a pothole I had to dodge. As for oncoming traffic - use your eyes and ears - which is where a soundproof helmet is a complete fail. If you try cutting the apex on this one you'd be riding up the bank on the exit. My bike is RE500, fwiw a GL1800 cannot make the turn and has to use the dumb-bell. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eMplZdx6y8C1iok.html

@popup1959 3 ай бұрын

Everyone made it through. Good thing no traffic was coming.

@FedericoLucchi 2 жыл бұрын

First bike took it really well, third one would have been disastrous if there was incoming traffic

@Shardrk23 2 жыл бұрын

45 yrs of no accident riding says if that is a 2 way road with a vehicle coming the other way: first rider did ok, 2nd rider was pushing it, and third rider was an accident looking for a place to die. Because the driver coming the other way as often as not will NOT take that curve wide, and many times are also going too fast to stay on their side of the road. They ARE out there to get you, intentionally or not, and you cannot forget that if you plan to ride for decades.

@peterm348 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. Poor skills, poor judgment.

@cliveadams7629 2 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming they should be driving on the right so any traffic coming uphill should be on the outside of the bend. Hence anything coming downhill needs to be able to stay close to that tight curb.

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@cliveadams7629 If there is a massive Magirus-Deutz log lorry coming up (and they are common) it will use the whole road and they do not give way. But they're slow and the bikes would see and hear it coming. Remember that all other road users are deliberately trying to kill you. On these bends you give way to traffic going up. You do not try to cross on the bend. You do not try to stay tight to the kerb or you get into all sorts of problems. If the road is clear you use the whole road but try to exit in your correct lane.

@cliveadams7629 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffslade1892 I'll take the advice of someone who's been there, it all comes down to proper planning in the end which should always include being able to stop in the distance you can see. Especially on roads you think you know because they're the ones that catch you out with little surprises.

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@cliveadams7629 I have been on roads very like that in France. And even tighter bends locally. Do you even have a motorbike? The cornering and altering of direction is very different to a 4-wheeler. The right line on a bike may seem like the long way round for a car.

@PainterD54 2 жыл бұрын

The first guy was the only one who did it correctly, the other two ended up in the oncoming lane and if there were a vehicle coming up that hill, they would've hit them head on!

@moconnor50 2 жыл бұрын

The first rider performed the turn perfectly. The last two riders put themselves in the opposing lane coming out of the turn. The title should be 'First Rider Uses Proper Technique, Last Two Riders Lucky To Be Alive'.

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

All three cut into the apex. It is the steepest part. The road drops away, the front wheel goes light and you come off. You feel the front go light and so you straighten up and so you go into the wrong lane on exit. From there you're trying to tidy up instead of being set to open up again.

@CockatooDude 2 жыл бұрын

I think "lucky to be alive" is stretching it a bit. They seemed fine.

@maikelmolto8986 2 жыл бұрын

Funny how opinions can differ, I rate their style more or less as crap. You never should drive like that on public roads: stupid line, poor line of sight, cutting the apex, getting into oncoming traffic. Number one and three are hot candidates as organ donors. And the worst, they aren’t even near cornering fast.

@TraceursMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

I did the mistake of the last guy on my first long trip and almost got hit by a car that was going up but I leaned a lot on the right side and managed to get back on my lane . I had a lot of bicycle past experience and muscle memory that helped me transition into motorcycling .

@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly i feel like theres little resemblence from bicycle to motorcycle. The other way around probably more so. Just because counter steering or accelerating so you dont tip over are so miniscule on bicycles.

@varun3771 2 жыл бұрын

@@D3nn1s wrong bicycle experience certainly helpd you do sharp turns and counter lean, if you ever tried balancing on one with no momentum

@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын

@@varun3771 not at all. Sharp slow turns were the thing i was struggling the most with. I didnt say it doesnt help but 99% of the time i feel like im too light to move the bike in a significant way.

@NitishDiwakar 2 жыл бұрын

More accurate title should be: "How to take a hairpin turn when no one is coming from front"

@ttblade 2 жыл бұрын

The challenge is to make the turn on an uphill right hander when vehicles are coming in the opposite direction and you have no width going into or out of the bend and no vision past the bend. Seen so many topple over or end up across the road facing a front bumper.

@0d34dh34d0 2 жыл бұрын

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. this.

@omarkgad 2 жыл бұрын

The challenge is to do it on the the same lane ➡️ tight turn

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. The object is to do it without falling off. If the road is clear as here, use the whole road. If the road is clear.

@namelessone5968 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffslade1892 agreed, but staying on the lane is still a good practice tho because it's bad if using the whole road becomes a habit

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@namelessone5968 That sounds a bit ocd and rather dangerous.

@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын

@@namelessone5968 sounds a bit ocd. And dangerous too. The IAM (advanced) would teach you to use all the road, both sides safely.

@DonkeyDongDoug 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffslade1892 except you need to be able to do the turn in all situations. If you practice the turn by running into the opposite lane then you will never make the turn if there is traffic in that lane. If you practice the turn while staying in your lane then you should be able to make the turn regardless of the condition of the other lane. I don't know what IAM is, but if they are advising you to use an oncoming traffic lane to perform a simple turn, in ANY situation, then I think either: A : you misunderstood what they were saying B : the IAM instructor is a garbage rider also, or C : IAM courses aren't worth taking, because they are giving garbage advice. Stay in your lane when cornering.

@Astrix_Jaeger 2 жыл бұрын

Counter leaning does work. Job well done man!

@fjinatic9615 2 жыл бұрын

i always think adventure bikes are easier at u turns compares to full on sport bikes, this is a perfect demo

@komerka35 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely not true, adventure bikes have a long wheel base which makes the turning radius bigger, they are also heavier which makes it harder to move the bike. Sports bikes definitely turn way easier, they are made for it

@fjinatic9615 2 жыл бұрын

@@komerka35 i had a 1200gs and a sport bike too, i agree with you that sport bikes are nimble and easy to tip in however in this case we are talking about u turns and hairpins. the max turning angle of handlebar on adv bikes are 100% wider than sport bikes and as for hairpin, treat center of gravity with right riding technique is the key. yes sport bikes are made for corners but not this kind

@fjinatic9615 2 жыл бұрын

@@komerka35 and im not promoting that adv bikes are faster at hairpins im saying they are typically easier😂

@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын

@@fjinatic9615 i wouldnt call it easier because of the additional weight. They have a smaller radius, thats correct, however the last guy had just no idea what he was doing. 2nd guy was okay but could have taken the exit a bit earlier instead of weaving into the opposite lane

@fjinatic9615 2 жыл бұрын

@@D3nn1s its all about center of gravity mate. weight has little impact mid corner (angular momentum) high impact initiating lean and weight transfer. for low speed corners the boxer engines and high g center will smoke sport bikes everytime. cuz gsx, r1, v4 they are made for high speed stability in a corner

@rosswoolley2854 2 жыл бұрын

How "NOT" to take a hairpin turn! Best way to have a head on with with on coming traffic.

@roybatty- 2 жыл бұрын

1st guy: A+ 2nd guy: B 3rd guy: C

@clay1883 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the way it has to be. Most people enter low in a right curve and that puts them wide coming out. Every time. I have tried in a nice way to demonstrate this to some less experienced riders, but they fight it. I learned this from a more experienced riding friend many decades ago. Very good riding lesson video.

@dormstories 2 жыл бұрын

Last 2 guys are truckers in real life.

@kpd3308 2 жыл бұрын

That’s my problem - I forget to countersteer on hairpins. Gotta go out and practice now.

@hoonhwang4778 Ай бұрын

They are all doing amazing! I always stop then aim and go. Works all the time.😅

@brewinginc.769 2 жыл бұрын

Number two was the best! number one looked like a slide waiting to happen!

@kadekyudhistiras 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a tips. Especially for busy road!

@krishm2478 2 жыл бұрын

This video was a life saver for me

@DursTuckle 2 жыл бұрын

But none of them took it, they left without it...

@BartAssink 2 жыл бұрын

The first one was the best line for dealing with upcoming traffic. I love hair pin turn and throw the machine down in gears and lean angle. Then open up when straight. And do it al over again 😆 thats how you deserve a good meal at the end of the day!

@dcoop1422 2 жыл бұрын

First guy must be fully studied in Ayrton Senna corner philosophy.

@redfive5123 2 жыл бұрын

In public roads the best line it's not the safest one. A public road confronts the driver with different challenges than the track. This video prove it.

@schemkesa 2 жыл бұрын

True, the best line on public roads = the safest line. So: stay in your lane for always. Maximum visibility. Prepare for the worst

@HiroChen5 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! now I know I have to tilt, no more broken bones.

@kataloganz 2 жыл бұрын

first one was the right one, he moved his body perfectly

@bert111bel 2 жыл бұрын

that was smooth the first guy hahahahah

@waqarmanhas647 2 жыл бұрын

Now I know how to take a hairpin turn. Needed that. Thanks!

@sofast8149 2 жыл бұрын

First dude went for the money line

@austinsaju 2 жыл бұрын

That was satisfying to watch 🤩

@jonathanpachuau1200 2 жыл бұрын

Smooth turn😮

@truevegas 2 жыл бұрын

3rd guy: "corner? What corner?"

@jessietan5748 2 жыл бұрын

The most smooth turn made was the Duke adventure (1st bike).👌👌👌

@easyrider2581 2 жыл бұрын

How NOT to do an hairpin turn. Completely in the other lane,well done

@robboss9098 6 жыл бұрын

By God. Amazing.

@borneoworldgamanmultimedia3290 2 жыл бұрын

Tq fot sharing..👍👍

@mr.terwilliger5728 2 жыл бұрын

The last guy fumbles a little because he went through the first twos flatulence

@shubhbelankar4857 2 жыл бұрын

yes the counter leaning also gave him the oppurtunity to accelerate faster and earlier than others

@samatosal8003 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, they're able to turn, so impressive . lol

@davidmoore1477 2 жыл бұрын

I just close my eyes and hope for the best!

@jeanlouis7527 2 жыл бұрын

The last one : not good

@Organizeeewithlotsofees 2 жыл бұрын

In my part of the world the rule is to keep left. Going by that, the first guy is a legend!

@robroberts9051 2 жыл бұрын

So...you...eh...turn into the direction of the corner? Right. Perfect. I've been turning the other way all this time it's no wonder i keep writing vehicles off this video has really helped me turn a corner in my life. Badoom tschhh

@jakartafoodvlogger6538 2 жыл бұрын

I fall down on this hairpin turn, too lean and did not fast enough 🤣. Silly me

@iourimargarine3620 2 жыл бұрын

chaotic good, then neutral good, then loyal good

@danielkuraev1296 2 жыл бұрын

You can see that the first dude have a lot more experiance

@buttpark5336 2 жыл бұрын

Well I was expecting one of them doing the "JUMP"

@neoramen5105 2 жыл бұрын

Thx for the tutorial

@TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 жыл бұрын

Looked like the first guy almost tucked the front end if it wasn't for the throttle.

@robertlee8042 2 жыл бұрын

Actually I cut it tighter. I go wide like them but come in much tighter. I don’t want to be on the outside past the apex

@arahok7675 2 жыл бұрын

the last guy is a true pilot, if he do the same move at high speed, he would be the only one who keep the control

@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about lol? The last guy is terrible

@JFBrigz 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, i used to get off my bike to push it on turns like these… now i know.. cheers

@baldandbiking 2 жыл бұрын

If a car was coming the other way, the third guy would have got creamed. No escape.

@DrKampfpudding 2 жыл бұрын

That last guy was cringe to watch ... first one was safest and fastest

@sergiooliveira1127 2 жыл бұрын

On a R bike, it's actually not easy to do a much better job if you are not used to this roads, the turning radius is much bigger than most bikes and the lowered handlebars doesn't help much either.

@DrKampfpudding 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergiooliveira1127 no. He could have countersteered just like the first guy ! Turning radius has NOTHING to do with riding around a corner . It only matters in the city in a tight parking spot or if you want to make a u turn

@sergiooliveira1127 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrKampfpudding have you ever been on a modern superbike?

@DrKampfpudding 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergiooliveira1127 I'm gonna ignore your question. Since you really think steering lock affects corners . You know that you only need to turn the handlebar about 5 cm ( for that corner in the video) ? Every superbike and even all the race bikes have enough steering lock for EVERY corner on a normal street .

@sergiooliveira1127 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrKampfpudding you clearly didn't and this is why I'm going to ignore you as well lol

@KeyesAnthony 2 жыл бұрын

oh ok so you just... make the turn... got it

@eddieb35 2 жыл бұрын

The only one that noticed they're going the wrong way

@Wildstar40 2 жыл бұрын

And here I thought they were going to drift it. Oh well.

@bigdarbs19 2 жыл бұрын

Its a good job another motorcyclist wasn't coming the opposite direction at a similar speed, they didn't have anywhere near the view required to take the corner like that.

@alloutofdonuts3998 2 жыл бұрын

What was the last bike? 1st bike is 1st on my list. That or a Capo 1200.

@M3rVsT4H 2 жыл бұрын

I wish there was a supermoto example.. Kick it down two, drop the clutch.. Nice little Scandi flick and a little floating wheelie on exit.

@louskunt9798 2 жыл бұрын

Why has this valuable information been kept secret for so long??

@CrisyugoOficial 2 жыл бұрын

Eurobeat Intensifies!!!

@Guenter-dl4mea 2 жыл бұрын

Which street is that?

@caiusKeys 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like they should be drifting--with hard bass playing in the background

@TLK22 2 жыл бұрын

This

@coconuciferanuts339 2 жыл бұрын

Same as a roundabout.

@automaticreply 2 жыл бұрын

Counter lean unless you don't have clearance, then go upright to leaning inward, to get more turn out of the clearance you have, depending on circumstances...ime.

@AndrewM83 2 жыл бұрын

Where was this video taken?

@SmokysRides 2 жыл бұрын

First guy looks like Motojitsu

@SaiKiran-rs5jm 2 жыл бұрын

Come to Araku valley, we the people of vizag will show you 😘😄

@ruslandslava4095 2 жыл бұрын

So just like any other turn, got it 👍

@IamNotaFilipino 2 жыл бұрын

Counter leaning is efficient for tight turns depending on the type of motorcycle you drive.

@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын

Im curious, what motorcycle defies the laws of gravity so counter leaning doesnt work? 3-wheelers dont count.

@moonred2771 2 жыл бұрын

I lost ”Nani ! Kansei-drift !!”

@BigYouDog 2 жыл бұрын

Nice wide road and no traffic coming up. Do another going up on a busy summers day. Perhaps the Stelvio?

@jeromyleblanc4236 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like forks of the credit road

@namelessone5968 2 жыл бұрын

me before this: How NOT to take a hairpin turn

@haziqariffin9866 2 жыл бұрын

Even the cbr have a good handling in cornering

@scout8112 2 жыл бұрын

In this conditions it's not about Speed. Which stile is the savest?

@fightswithspirits915 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1250, when de-accelerating before the turn the engine make the bike herky jerky. How are you approaching the turn?

@GearShifter925 2 жыл бұрын

Which Rider did GREAT TURN according to you guys??

@jorg8714 2 жыл бұрын

Eine da, der wo auf'm Moped sitzen tut ....

@rahmadsucahyo7382 2 жыл бұрын

where that frim ? very beautiful

@capnbeanis7202 2 жыл бұрын

Someone please tell me when you counter lean, counter steer or just go all in one way. When I ride dirt bikes I just turn and counter lean. But I’m moto gp they are all one way. I know it’s dirt and pavement but what’s the difference?

@JohnLarson10 2 жыл бұрын

Another important tip: keep your chin up ,eyes straight .

@Dirk_Taggesell 2 жыл бұрын

When leaving the turn, you keep on your side! Which they don't ...

@toothl3ss91 2 жыл бұрын

So...I get it. You just swing out into the opposite lane, then dive in close to the corner and exit into the on-coming traffic while hoping that no one is going the other direction...easy peasy!