How European Swords adopted Turkish Features

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8 күн бұрын

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The spread of sword design features in Europe, as a result of Turkish invasions and influence.
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@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 күн бұрын
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@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 6 күн бұрын
You look particularly dapper today Matt. Anything up?
@BigMakBattleBlog
@BigMakBattleBlog 5 күн бұрын
​@@PalleRasmussenhey mat. Hope I'm first on this but I somehow doubt you'd agree with this chap. kzfaq.infoN5PgP017Pr8?si=J_rSYonO-wQV-DoY
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 Күн бұрын
Has ‘Anyone’ considered perhaps teaming up with LK Chen (!) to produce an actual, historically, accurate reproduction of the Ottoman kılıç; or indeed this shorter version (pala)…?! 🤔🙂
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Күн бұрын
@@peterchristiansen9695 if they are in the PRC, I would rather not have anything to do with them at all.
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 Күн бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen I don’t think the political situation on the Indian subcontinent is that much better tbh… 🫤
@trikebeatstrexnodiff
@trikebeatstrexnodiff 5 күн бұрын
Great video! Though starting at 12:14 I'd like to clarify two things: Hussars weren't quite a light cavalry, at least in their early years. And also Hussars' overall looks and their uniform (especially those huge wings and the helmets) were modeled on/influenced after the Ottoman Army Unit called "Deliler" (The Mads/Crazies), their most characteristic feature were the huge wings they wore. And even though the Hussars didn't copy this (I can see why), Deliler had knives, daggers and swords passing through their flesh on various parts of their body as an intimidation tactic (ranging from their foreheads to the chest area to the arms and so on) I highly recommend people to check out the Ottoman miniatures and also the German manuscripts depicting them. One time I got high looking at em, they are that psycho 😭🙏🏻
@adseri
@adseri 4 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure he means a different formation. He doesn't mean Polish hussars, which is indeed a heavy unit, but (just) hussar(s?) - in Polish that's spelled huzarzy - and this is a light formation. They originated in Hungary, I think. And both units operated on the territories of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
@adseri
@adseri 4 күн бұрын
They have different wikipedia entries if you want to read about them more - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussar and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_hussars
@Jim58223
@Jim58223 7 күн бұрын
They've got BENT SWORDS. BENT SWORDS.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 6 күн бұрын
Curved, you best go back and refresh your memory with 100+ hours of modded gaming. Have fun 😀
@Jim58223
@Jim58223 6 күн бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen @ 6:12 lmao ik it's curved swords but I said bent cause Matt said European sources at the time referred to them as bent swords in the video 😂
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 6 күн бұрын
@@Jim58223 ah, my bad. You should still go play some Skyrim 😉
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 6 күн бұрын
Somebody had to say it… 😁👍🏻
@randyogburn2498
@randyogburn2498 6 күн бұрын
If your sword has a bend that's not natural to you see your doctor.
@benimtelefoncaliyor1dk
@benimtelefoncaliyor1dk 7 күн бұрын
In the Early Middle Ages, the Turkic people of Central Asia came into contact with Middle Eastern civilizations through their shared Islamic faith. Turkic Ghilman slave-soldiers serving under the Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates introduced kilij-type sabers to all of the other Middle Eastern cultures. Previously, Arabs and Persians used straight-bladed swords such as the earlier types of the Arab saif, takoba and kaskara. Source- Khorasani, Manouchehr, "Arms and Armour from Iran"
@TarpShooter
@TarpShooter 6 күн бұрын
True except that the Turkic people were not Islamic until after they came in contact with the Middle Easterns, so they didn't have a shared religion when they first came in contact.
@jefekeefsosa4998
@jefekeefsosa4998 6 күн бұрын
the kaskara and takoba go back that early? ive never been able to find any extant examples older than 18th century
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 6 күн бұрын
Even in the 12th in Middle Asia, there were non-muslim Turkic and Turko-Mongol tribes using yuan-type sabres (see at LK Chen).
@gimbles123
@gimbles123 6 күн бұрын
He means straight swords similar to those types. I think the takobas pommel is very different than those earlier types of sword though.
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 6 күн бұрын
@@jefekeefsosa4998 From what I saw, Sassanian straight swords were more Like a backsword, kaskara Are symmetrical
@dlatrexswords
@dlatrexswords 7 күн бұрын
Oh what a smashing sabre to show off Matt. Thanks so much for going over it, and as an excuse to talk about Kilij history and interaction with the west! A fun anecdote for everyone: a big turning point for sabre history in Europe (especially western Europe) is the reformation of Poland's military forces and the formation of the Hussar units in the mid 16th century. King Stephen Báthory (originally from Hungary) who brought about this change had several swords, and one of the surviving swords attributed to him is a beautiful huge kilij of Mamluk manufacture (likely from Egypt). In some ways you could say that the Ur Szabla batorówka seems to have Kilij dna ;-)
@scotty430
@scotty430 6 күн бұрын
Was king Bathory related to Countess Bathory?? Big fan, even named my black cat after her 😂. Partially cause of the band though to be honest
@dlatrexswords
@dlatrexswords 6 күн бұрын
@@scotty430 Elizabeth Báthory was His niece.
@Velesus101
@Velesus101 7 күн бұрын
I keep wondering why it took so long for Europeans to adopt sabers-particularly people in Central Europe. I have a few theories but I would love to hear your thoughts on that. The constant contact with nomadic tribes like Bulgarians, Avars, Hungarians, Cumans, and later Mongols/Tatars seems to have had little to no effect for centuries. Sure, Eastern Slavs did adopt sabers but somehow Poles and Hungarians preferred straight European swords all the way up to the XV century and then suddenly decided "We love sabers! It's our national weapon now".
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 6 күн бұрын
Straight swords are better against armoured opponents curved better for unarmored
@Velesus101
@Velesus101 6 күн бұрын
@@lolasdm6959 True for the most part but that doesn't explain why sabers started to popularise in the time plate armour was becoming more and more common.
@bencoomer2000
@bencoomer2000 6 күн бұрын
@@Velesus101 I'd guess because swords didn't matter as much against the armor? Or just style reasons. Never discount trends and fads.
@FrothingFoulness
@FrothingFoulness 6 күн бұрын
@@Velesus101the saber became popularised right after full plate became irrelevant for anyone except heavy cavalry, the direct ancestor of the Western/Central European saber is the Falchion/messer
@dasiksupahuman
@dasiksupahuman 6 күн бұрын
@@bencoomer2000 Your right. But I cannot shake a mental image of a sales rep like Edna Mode "Its all the rage in the east."
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 7 күн бұрын
Matt, if you could collaborate with Windlass on a kilij, it would just be the "icing on the cake"! Please, sir!🙏🏻😁
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 7 күн бұрын
I second that motion in a similar manner as the Royal Armouries line with proper distal taper, etc, like the Windlass 1796. A very good idea. As far as I know there are very few replicas available that actually behave like swords. Good idea.
@adriancibran2202
@adriancibran2202 6 күн бұрын
Agreed! Would buy
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 Күн бұрын
👍🏻 But; Let’s try LK Chen, shall We (that is; if We want it to actually be good (!))? 😉
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 Күн бұрын
@@peterchristiansen9695 Certainly something to consider. I have heard of QC control probs with the Windlass 1796 LC. I would like to learn more about the QC issues and inconsistency with Windlass QC. I wounder how consistent QC is with the other replicas Windlass is making for Matt? I think you raise a very good point ... except that LK uses those ugly cast stainless furnishings. Anyway ...
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 Күн бұрын
@@kaoskronostyche9939 I hear you! However; LK Chen has lately upped the quality of those stainless-steel cast hilts (like a better, satin polish). Even if these cannot really be ‘blued’, for example - unlike more conventional, “old-school” steel sword-hilts.
@IoanCenturion
@IoanCenturion 6 күн бұрын
Love me a good Kilij. It's such a cool looking and feeling sword.
@LarryGarfieldCrell
@LarryGarfieldCrell 5 күн бұрын
Matt getting all dressed up to talk about Turkish swords...
@dantherpghero2885
@dantherpghero2885 6 күн бұрын
Just need to film a quick video before we head off to dinner, Lucy.
@dasiksupahuman
@dasiksupahuman 6 күн бұрын
Swords and food bring people together so well. No matter what every culture had a "that looks cool" or "that taste good" moment somewhere.
@al-qadi3427
@al-qadi3427 7 күн бұрын
Thank you Matt! Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's obsessed with Renaissance and Ottoman warfare and the Turkish frontier I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's relative playlist. I'd love to see a coop. Keep up with the amazing work
@KlausBeckEwerhardy
@KlausBeckEwerhardy 6 күн бұрын
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing.
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 7 күн бұрын
Very cool sword. The one with the 1796 hilt, as you said, is particularly attractive. There is not only the aesthetic of that particular curve but, just by the look of it, I think it could be a very nice weapon to use. Thanks. Cheers!
@technologicalwaste7612
@technologicalwaste7612 6 күн бұрын
These more formal videos are great.
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video 👍🏻
@sebastianb.1926
@sebastianb.1926 4 күн бұрын
Let's not forget the hussar hair braids, worn so elegantly by Harvey Keitel in The Duelists. I'm pretty certain they will make a comeback in the near future.
@OndrejSc
@OndrejSc 7 күн бұрын
It's a boomerang in sword form.
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 6 күн бұрын
Maybe even, swords in boomerang form!
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 6 күн бұрын
Always thought the kılıç looked more like an arm.
@Tax_Collector01
@Tax_Collector01 6 күн бұрын
The bent Pala/Kilij is my favorite Middle Eastern sword design.
@jamespuckett9753
@jamespuckett9753 6 күн бұрын
In real life people look at the folks next door and say, "Wow, that's cool. We should do something like that."
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 18 сағат бұрын
This is true
7 күн бұрын
Turk here from 30th second of the upload.
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 6 күн бұрын
ofc i am here 😂
@HobieH3
@HobieH3 6 күн бұрын
Lovely. And I know how excited you were to find it! Did they ever have thumb rings in this era?
@hishamg
@hishamg 5 күн бұрын
Great video Matt, I really enjoyed it. However I am going to pick up on pronunciation; kilic is the Turkish word for sword and it’s commonly used for Ottoman (and Mamluk) style swords, however in modern Turkish the letter C is pronounced in a similar way to the English letter J. So kilij, with a J on the end, is a more accurate pronunciation.
@turkishisthesunlanguage
@turkishisthesunlanguage 4 күн бұрын
That's why the word is written as kılıç and not as kılıc or kilic :) Matt pronounced it kinda accurately tbh, he pronounced it as "kilich" rathan than the incorrect "kilij", and the letter ç in Turkish makes the ch sound in english. (Though of course it would have been better if he didn't pronounce the letter ı as if it was the letter i) And yes the letter c in Turkish makes the j sound in english but the word kılıç contains no c in it 😸
@johnmartlew5897
@johnmartlew5897 6 күн бұрын
Interesting dot connection…. Kilich or Kilick is the name of Jack Aubrey’s insolent cook on HMS Surprise in the Patrick O’Brian Aubrey Maturin series. PS I’d love to see the scabbard for this example.
@farkasmactavish
@farkasmactavish 2 күн бұрын
12:13 I hear they arrived.
@cptamazingone
@cptamazingone 6 күн бұрын
That whole sword is pretty. Looks pretty quick in the hand too.
@uha6477
@uha6477 6 күн бұрын
This is fascinating stuff. If anyone tried to write a book purely on the development of the engineering that went into swords, metallurgy, blade design, and such from the ancient development of the sword itself, it would have to be multi volume and probably an entire life's work...and still incomplete...
@ianchristian7949
@ianchristian7949 7 күн бұрын
You didn't need to dress up for us Matt!
@Kanner111
@Kanner111 5 күн бұрын
"Ah, but this long straight blade is *much* better against armor." "I can't help but notice you aren't wearing a lot of armor right now, effendi?" "Well of course not, we have rifles now and so do they."
@adriancibran2202
@adriancibran2202 6 күн бұрын
Please work with Windlass to get an awesome repro Kilij/Pala! Specifically a short Pala with like a 66 cm blade
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 3 күн бұрын
“Curve swords. They have CURVED SWORDS!!!” -Sun Tzu
@theghosthero6173
@theghosthero6173 7 күн бұрын
What papers you recommand for ottoman influence on western Fashion?
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann 6 күн бұрын
Beautiful sword, the british sabre. Would love to own a replica of that style. Seems about ideal for a fighting sabre.😊
@metingurbuz750
@metingurbuz750 Күн бұрын
@scholagladiatoria we call machete a "pala" in Turkish and sword is "kilic"
@williamarthur4801
@williamarthur4801 7 күн бұрын
Remember going to the Bedford arms fair for first time about 1980 and seeing a mameluke 'scimitar', still one of my favorites, BTW how about a video on early Arab or Eastern swords, so pre Islamic going forward.
@lalbus1607
@lalbus1607 5 күн бұрын
What sorts of straight sowrds were in use by the armies of the Middle East and North Africa by the Late Middle Ages? Maybe a video about that matter would be nice.
@Csatadi
@Csatadi 6 күн бұрын
This combo makes the saber S Tier
@FiliiMartis
@FiliiMartis 6 күн бұрын
Not the focus of the video, but there is one thing that sounds strange to me. I know of Hun, Avar, Mongol and similar influences that came earlier than the Ottomans. And we see some of those weapon influences being adapted in the Eastern Roman Empire, so we know people adopted the sabre quite early on. I also agree that when it comes to weapons (and a lot of other things) in the Balkans, the Romanian principate, and late (so 1500) Hungary, we see the Ottoman influence (so not the Turkish as the general group of people, but the empire in particular). But can influences in Poland be attributed to the Ottomans? Do they see it as such, or do they credit the Karabela and the like to the earlier influences (Avars, Mongols, Tartars, etc.)?
@ppduque9607
@ppduque9607 6 күн бұрын
Can you suggest a book focused on the construction of swords from the high middle ages?
@afd1040
@afd1040 6 күн бұрын
TURKS HAVE BEEN SUMMONED.
@lady_draguliana784
@lady_draguliana784 6 күн бұрын
Here's why they're called "Frocking Swords" according to the Navy. In the US Military (so take that into account) "Frock Swords" are ceremonial, and only given/worn for "Frocking Ceremonies" aka "Ranking Ceremonies" where officers over a certain rank, attaining promotion, can _optionally_ also be presented with a sword, which they can also wear with their High Dress Uniforms (the ones worn to black-tie events and meeting World Leaders etc.) To my knowledge, these were never meant to be capable of combat, usually being ornate, dull, overly delicate (needing to be super light to be worn all night by very old men throughout hours-long events they may have had to stand through), and overly ornate (we like eagles and laurels in the US Military). They were meant to be pretty, and to be mounted/shadow-boxed and hung on a wall with a placard after/between uses (some folk liked to have a newer, more ornate one for each qualifying rank earned, displaying them like a ladder). The word "Frock" is an archaic term for "dressing" and was typically reserved for Clergy donning Ceremonial Vestments... er... _ceremonially._ Such as being draped in a special vestment during a special Mass by either assistants or a superior ranked clergyman as part of the ceremony. This included ceremonies in which their rank was raised, but wasn't exclusive to that use. This later came to be used in general to mean "don ceremonially", and was adopted by the military for the pinning-on of medals of rank or achievement in a ceremony, and was expanded to include the presentation of any symbol of rank or office, thus attaining that rank or office. It became so synonymous that we even call the "butterfly clasp" for holding pins on a "frog" in the military, a humorous corruption of the word "Frock" owing, so it is said, to the way the clasp looks like a little frog at some angles. (place it on a table, flat side down, then look at it edge on) Frocking swords were _usually_ in the same style as issued weapons, but that was not a requirement until much later. Now, in the US, it _MUST_ be of the specific sort and specs worn by the specific branch of the military (US Navy is a straight-bladed Cutlass, *Marines is a Mamluk* and the oldest continually used weapon in the US Military, and the Army and Air Force (formerly US Army: Air Corps) use the Model 1902 Army Officers' [Cavalry] Saber)
@diazhungi
@diazhungi 6 күн бұрын
one of the mentors in my HEMA club stated that dussacks are essentially looted/war trophy Ottoman blades that got fitted with Western European handguards. How true is his statement? I've been googling to look for the source and verify the claim and I've found few confirming answers to this
@bearcladxd
@bearcladxd 6 күн бұрын
You should look at the US Marine Corps officers sword ( we call it the mamaluke), we were told the Marine officers were given it as a gift for defeating the Barbary pirates. Curious if there’s any historical accuracy to the sword or if we Americanized/hill billied it
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 3 күн бұрын
The Mamlukes were Turkic slave soldiers that rebelled and took over Egypt, founding their own Dynasty. They ruled Egypt for a very long time and eventually became part of the Ottoman empire. The Barbary corsairs were part of the Ottoman navy. They had the same function as British and Dutch "privateers" (pirates) that would raid Spanish ships for the British. Fun fact, after the Brits and Spanish made peace. A lot of Dutch and British privateers joined the Barbary corsairs. Some of them became very successful and famous pirate captains and even governors of entire towns and provinces. (Jan Janszoon, Dirkie de Veenboer etc)
@WhatIfBrigade
@WhatIfBrigade 4 күн бұрын
I don't suppose MOVA globes would make fantasy globes? If you could give them a map and they'd make a globe that would be fun.
@ejdrexmann
@ejdrexmann 7 күн бұрын
That's an awesome sabre. I want one now lol Thanks for sharing, Matt
@thepuffin4050
@thepuffin4050 6 күн бұрын
Every day I live in fear that even though he has been Matt Easton, he might not continue to be next time
@jessebechtold2973
@jessebechtold2973 6 күн бұрын
All those pieces are beautiful and seeing all the cross cultural influences in them is absolutely fascinating….and fun it must be said! It really adds a lot of humanity to them.
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead 6 күн бұрын
I reckon there's a lot to be said in general about how Europe was influenced by the cultures it encountered from the 15th C onwards before that interaction led to the collapse of most of those societies and admiration turned to contempt.
@sinnytax
@sinnytax 6 күн бұрын
TURKEY MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺💯💯💯‼‼‼🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 Jokes aside very informative video, thanks!
@shark8837
@shark8837 7 күн бұрын
Замечательное оружие !!!
@Shimra8888
@Shimra8888 5 күн бұрын
Why do curved swords seem so much more elegant?
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 6 күн бұрын
That is a lovely saber. Both swords were quite nice.
@stephens2241
@stephens2241 6 күн бұрын
That is definitely the sword Sharpe ought to have used.
@DrNukeP
@DrNukeP 3 күн бұрын
Not only UV light...
@marksteven6116
@marksteven6116 6 күн бұрын
no hand protection- why ?
@Griff1011
@Griff1011 6 күн бұрын
Whilst handling antiques? He's explained before that after handling his swords in videos, he makes very sure to clean them of any oils, as to prevent further damage to the antiques, or new rust and such on his reproductions, iirc.
@shawnlowhorn5009
@shawnlowhorn5009 23 сағат бұрын
What sort of swords where being use in Scandinavia during the 16 and 17 centuries
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 22 сағат бұрын
Rapiers and basket-hilted broadswords/backswords, and some dussacks
@draven86
@draven86 6 күн бұрын
Didnt Dracula (Vlad the impaler not the vampire) had a Ottoman style sword ?
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann 6 күн бұрын
Quite probably
@stellifriends7785
@stellifriends7785 6 күн бұрын
in the parlance of the time, they might well have described it as an 'oriental' style.
@gabork5055
@gabork5055 7 күн бұрын
A lot of if not most ceremonial swords today are still curved. Kriegsmesser swords also had a similar inspiration and are some of the best looking ones.
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 6 күн бұрын
We are and we were and will continue to be Central Europe and Central Europeans, thank you very much! Cheers! - end of public service anouncement by your local Imperial Respresentative. +][+
@svenkuba2820
@svenkuba2820 2 күн бұрын
Big ol' curvy slicy Choppa!
@mylesdobinson1534
@mylesdobinson1534 5 күн бұрын
Does Lucy know you borrowed one of her swords 😉
@peteredwardcox
@peteredwardcox 6 күн бұрын
The great thing about swords with Ottoman features is they double as a footrest.
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 5 күн бұрын
Huns are no Hungarians, it is just the name. Also, the Huns had straight swords, not sabres, so they don't really have their place here. You surely meant Avars, the later ones, who were the first to have sabres in Central Europe (end of the 7th, 8th centuries).
@reporterolc4994
@reporterolc4994 6 күн бұрын
Polish huzars where famously heavy kavalery so i dont know where this light cavalery stuff is coming from, a group called lisowczycy filled that role.
@PanterDash82
@PanterDash82 5 күн бұрын
Only Polish hussars were heavily armored, all others - Hungarian for example - were light cavalry
@ivanharlokin
@ivanharlokin 22 сағат бұрын
Hussars originated in the Balkans, and were light cavalry. The term literally means something like pirate/brigand in south Slavic. So calm your fucking pierogis.
@reporterolc4994
@reporterolc4994 17 сағат бұрын
He was specifficly talking about polish lancers and eastern European huzars, he was also talking about lithuania wich was part of polish crown. I know word huzzar means something difrrent in west but in this specific context i was under impression he was talking about winged ones.
@elshebactm6769
@elshebactm6769 5 күн бұрын
🗿👍
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 6 күн бұрын
Turkic is not the same as Ottoman. There were many more Turkic tribes in the Great Steppe.
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 6 күн бұрын
Correct, but the Ottomans' material culture was heavily inspired by their culturally Turkic origins, which include their swords.
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 6 күн бұрын
@@rasmusn.e.m1064 Yeah, but yelman probably evolved in contact with Plate Armor, not used in Steppe.
@farkasmactavish
@farkasmactavish 2 күн бұрын
When Easton swords influence Weston swords...
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 7 күн бұрын
current politics on this channel? xD
@scotty430
@scotty430 6 күн бұрын
Aww hell no tell me you're lying. Unless he's calling Shad a larping incel, then it's all good
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 6 күн бұрын
@@scotty430 self-explanatory xD
@scotty430
@scotty430 6 күн бұрын
@@couchcamperTM yeah I got it right after 🤣🤣🤣
@zakaryaanwar3263
@zakaryaanwar3263 2 күн бұрын
You’re wearing Ottoman inspired clothes in the video.
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak 6 күн бұрын
LET'S EXAMINE IT'S FEATURES, HA HA HA 😆
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 5 күн бұрын
"Huszár" means every twenthieth guy that can fight in Hungary. They were instituted in the 15th century, mainly against the Ottoman threat. There was no Austro-Hungarian Empire untill 1861, way after the Napoleonic wars. There was a Hungarian kingdom, an Austrian Archiduchy and a Holy Roman Empire, all in the powers of a same fanily since the 16th century: the Habsburgs.
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 5 күн бұрын
Gay sword by a gay lord
@marting1056
@marting1056 6 күн бұрын
LOL: When Easton swords influence western swords
@Sirsethtaggart3505
@Sirsethtaggart3505 6 күн бұрын
That is one ugly sword
@smmndst9315
@smmndst9315 Күн бұрын
Said the the keyboard crusader🤣
@lady_draguliana784
@lady_draguliana784 6 күн бұрын
Here's why they're called "Frocking Swords" according to the Navy. In the US Military (so take that into account) "Frock Swords" are ceremonial, and only given/worn for "Frocking Ceremonies" aka "Ranking Ceremonies" where officers over a certain rank, attaining promotion, can _optionally_ also be presented with a sword, which they can also wear with their High Dress Uniforms (the ones worn to black-tie events and meeting World Leaders etc.) To my knowledge, these were never meant to be capable of combat, usually being ornate, dull, overly delicate (needing to be super light to be worn all night by very old men throughout hours-long events they may have had to stand through), and overly ornate (we like eagles and laurels in the US Military). They were meant to be pretty, and to be mounted/shadow-boxed and hung on a wall with a placard after/between uses (some folk liked to have a newer, more ornate one for each qualifying rank earned, displaying them like a ladder). The word "Frock" is an archaic term for "dressing" and was typically reserved for Clergy donning Ceremonial Vestments... er... _ceremonially._ Such as being draped in a special vestment during a special Mass by either assistants or a superior ranked clergyman as part of the ceremony. This included ceremonies in which their rank was raised, but wasn't exclusive to that use. This later came to be used in general to mean "don ceremonially", and was adopted by the military for the pinning-on of medals of rank or achievement in a ceremony, and was expanded to include the presentation of any symbol of rank or office, thus attaining that rank or office. It became so synonymous that we even call the "butterfly clasp" for holding pins on a "frog" in the military, a humorous corruption of the word "Frock" owing, so it is said, to the way the clasp looks like a little frog at some angles. (place it on a table, flat side down, then look at it edge on) Frocking swords were _usually_ in the same style as issued weapons, but that was not a requirement until much later. Now, in the US, it _MUST_ be of the specific sort and specs worn by the specific branch of the military (US Navy is a straight-bladed Cutlass, *Marines is a Mamluk* and the oldest continually used weapon in the US Military, and the Army and Air Force (formerly US Army: Air Corps) use the Model 1902 Army Officers' [Cavalry] Saber)
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