School right to ban prayers? Feat. Ben Kentish & Carole Malone

School right to ban prayers? Feat. Ben Kentish & Carole Malone | Jeremy Vine

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3 ай бұрын

The Michaela community school, in north London, made the decision last March, citing concerns about prayer rituals causing segregation and intimidation within a group of Muslim pupils.
One pupil challenged that decision at the High Court, claiming it's discriminatory - but the High Court has upheld the ban.
The headteacher - Katharine Birbalsingh - has declared it's a 'victory for all schools', but do you think it's unfair on pupils who want to practice their religion?
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@patricklee6206 3 ай бұрын

"Nobody is saying that it's outrageous we are teaching christianity in our schools". I should hope not, we are after all a "CHRISTIAN "country the last time that I looked.

@keirmitchell5560 3 ай бұрын

Katharine Birbalsingh is spot on.

@barneyrubble8590 3 ай бұрын

They can pray when they get home,why should the school have to deal with people's religious routines,it's for LEARNING not praying!

@sammorris641 3 ай бұрын

This headteacher is correct, no one religion gets preference. Everyone is equal, this is what some parts of the community don't want. As she has said if you don't like my rules, don't come to my school"

@indiechana9771 3 ай бұрын

Pray at home or the mosque......END OF!

@maryduffy2036 3 ай бұрын

The U.K should be as accommodating and tolerant as ISLAMIC COUNTIRES. The U.K is in the mess it's in because its TOO SOFT

@patricklee6206 3 ай бұрын

On another subject that was covered by Jeremy Vine(JV) in this programme regarding urban foxes. He was reporting on this item whilst riding his bicycle on the pavement, which is in contravention of both section 72 if the Highways Act 1835 and the Highway Code. One of which suggests that it is not legal to ride on the pavement. The prohibits the "wilful riding" on footpaths which refers to the path at the side of a carriage way. My reason for highlighting this is because of his self- righteous condemnation of any infraction, real or imaginary by him of motorists. So I thought, that I should highlight the irony and hypocrisy of that clip. Which is seemingly lost on him.

@onlylexus 3 ай бұрын

No Praying, thank you.

@David_Bower 3 ай бұрын

Schools shouldn't be coercing children to pray, but if they want to do so, in their own time, during break periods, then it makes no sense prohibiting them from doing so.

@benjaminwilliams2264 3 ай бұрын

I worked with Muslims who went off to pray for 5 minutes during the working day. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

@GairikGhosh-bx8ks 3 ай бұрын

Good for you. Go 'work' with them. I don't want any religious people who has to pray on duty/ during vocation in emergency services or in secular settings like secular schools. If faith is important, there are faith schools.

@BLUESLIMTIM 3 ай бұрын

who else is high af right now?

@jujutrini8412 3 ай бұрын

“You don’t ban something because other people might follow suit” - Did Ben Kentish ever go to school or meet a headmaster?

@GairikGhosh-bx8ks 3 ай бұрын

Katherine Birbal Singh is a mama bear protecting her wards from intimidation from fundamentalists. If you want to pray, go to a faith school.

@racheldelacey6912 3 ай бұрын

Does this school show top GCSE results? Not sure 😮 It is important to respect British Values - Religion! 🙏

@vernonrabbetts 3 ай бұрын

1. Muslims used to be able to pray. 2. There was no reason that it had to be in the playground, they could have set aside one classroom at lunchtime as a generic silent orayer room. 3. They could have consulted with an Imam who could have clarified the issue with the parents. 4. It could have been turned into a useful cultural exchange for all building togetherness. 5. Poor management of the issue created the problem by all parties. 6. Carol Malone is as useful as a chocolate teapot in these discussions...

@barneyrubble8590 3 ай бұрын

Religion is kept out of this school full stop.

@GromDarkwater 2 ай бұрын

If they wanted to go to a muslim school they were free to go to one. They chose the school and were warned when they did.

@catherinehanner284 3 ай бұрын

They want to pray 5x/day with prayer mat. It started by her kneeling on her blazer praying quietly during breaktime. Gradually develops into groups of 20 on prayer mats in full view of school. Next step would have been demanding right to walk out of class to pray when they wanted. Next step demanding extra tuition to make up for loss of class time because of prayer time breaks. Zealots seeking to stir up trouble will always want more. Pupils mother has stated she intends to send her other children to this school. If prayer time is paramout then why not opt for a different school.

@NeverStopRolling 3 ай бұрын

0:56 lol did he say "in the PRAYground"?? Freudian slip there 🤡🤡🤡🤡

@kanedNunable 3 ай бұрын

yes. if you want to pray do it outside of school or pay for your kid to go to a religious school.

@BuzzingRocks 3 ай бұрын

Faith schools should be abolished as they cause division for children later in life. Every religion should be taught in schools. Religious hatred is the number one cause of division and war.

@olixz 3 ай бұрын

I'd just let them pray.

@GairikGhosh-bx8ks 3 ай бұрын

That's one opinion. But you are not running one of the most successful schools serving communities in need. You can start one in your own way.

@olixz 3 ай бұрын

@@GairikGhosh-bx8ks Thank you

@boobopish 3 ай бұрын

She’s a 21st Stalin with her draconian policies.

@GromDarkwater 2 ай бұрын

Id just tell them to leave and go to the muslim school down the road.

@patricklee6206 3 ай бұрын

I wonder what would happen in Saudi Arabia if a Christian wanted to say the angelus prayer or the rosary in one of their schools or any public place for that matter? It seems that in this country if you object to anything to do with Islam, then you are labelled islamophobic. The fact is that although we are becoming a more secular society in the UK, never the less we are still a predominantly Christian country. But it seems that Christians are paradoxically the only religious faction that are not allowed to express their views without being bullied by either Islamists (not all muslims), or even worse our own police (the Met. being a prime example).

@joprocter4573 3 ай бұрын

Christian pray in church on knees no different to muslim faith.

@davidmiller7771 2 ай бұрын

This is Great Britain , a Christian country , if you cant accept our beliefs and religion , leave

@hazelbrady2851 3 ай бұрын

Carole is absolutely correct.

@joprocter4573 3 ай бұрын

Stop all prayers in school outside of assembly or religeous re study.NI is as is because segration allowed to favour rc but even with islam there are many muslim cultures all varied in method to practise their faith just as protestants are not one but so many christian faiths

@mum2jka 3 ай бұрын

Carole yet again is talking absolute bollocks and even when being corrected doesn't realize she's continuing to talk bollocks. And it sounds as though 'prayer' hasn't been banned but just no groups of more than 4 people can congregate together...which is it?

@2370mchal 3 ай бұрын

Shut up mum!

@barneyrubble8590 3 ай бұрын

Bollocks to what you're saying 😂

@GairikGhosh-bx8ks 3 ай бұрын

Pity, the moslem mother- daughter didn't hire you. The verdict would have been different. Alas, their loss.

@boobopish 3 ай бұрын

Agree. She thinks if she screams her opinions that makes them facial. 🙄 Absolute bollocks as you say.

@stephenglancy8551 3 ай бұрын

Carol Malone is an angry auld burd. She should team up wae Julia Brewer and Kuennsberg. Horrible noisy women abusing the platforms that they sell their souls to keep.