Schopenhauer On the Vanity & Suffering of Life

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A reading from Arthur Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Idea" Volume III, chapter 46 "On The Vanity And Suffering Of Life" translated by R. B. Haldane and read by Expatriate. This comes from LibriVox and is in the public domain. This is a version of an upload from the previous channel. Note, the audio has been slightly edited.
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@czarquetzal8344 2 жыл бұрын

Schopenhauer's philosophy is not pessimism; it's realism.

@LuisFlores-mc2tc 3 ай бұрын

It is as close to the void you can get without falling in

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

It’s not realism at all.

@Daniel-ef7nk Ай бұрын

@@mism847so you believe life involves more joy than pain? If you do I think you need to take a more unbiased look at it.

@nahuelpatania3522 Ай бұрын

Exactly. I always thought the same. Saying it is a "pessimistic" philosophy implies that there is a more "neutral" philosophy with respect to which Schopenhauer's philosophy is negatively biased. For me this is simply REALISM. I don't find what Artur expressed false at all.

@Daniel-ef7nk Ай бұрын

@@nahuelpatania3522 yes it only takes a bit of effort to see that life invariably involves more pain than pleasure, but most people do not think clealry

@DawsonSWilliams Жыл бұрын

Schopenhauer resonates with those of us who have experienced the adversity of life.

@Dutch_bastard_23 6 ай бұрын

And those of us who refuse to accept the standard miss America speech type consolations/motivations of: "just go and do what feels right", following senseless and deceptive instinctual drives, "and you'll feel better. Pull yourself up from your dark pit bla bla etc etc" (jordan peterson)

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@Dutch_bastard_23The last one is true, though. You need to pull yourself out of the dark. And your drive doesn’t need to be deceptive at all, in fact it should be as reasonable as possible.

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Everyone and everything experiences aging illness and death. This absolutely is hell. 😂😂😂😂

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

@@Dutch_bastard_23BLA BLA BLA Dutch😂😂😂😂

@greatexpectations6577 2 жыл бұрын

My prophet, my savior.

@languagegame410 2 жыл бұрын

o, beloved Arthur S... one of my favorite German thinkers... how furiously i did feast upon his published works... ravenous in my appetite... and so sorrowful when the last page of the last book was turned before my weeping eyes in this ever dimming world.

@kimyunmi452 Жыл бұрын

arthur's books are the consolation of my life and will be the consolation of my death.

@kimyunmi452 Жыл бұрын

O..wittgenstein..why are your eyes teary?

@Animalis_Mundana Жыл бұрын

Luckily he tells you it's mandatory to do multiple readings, at least twice to grasp what he's saying. Pretty sure the second time would be even more fruitful.

@MMAGUY13 Жыл бұрын

I never realized that life is only suffering when I was a child I would suffer but not realize it as I get older and I look back at everything. I realized most of the time I’m not happy with school getting up early being off Saturday and Sunday, thinking work is Monday and that gave me suffering all the hard jobs trying to pay the bills The medical problems, my wife leaving me for five months, slamming my fingers in car doors, and now being old and only going to have Social Security to live on which is not enough I hate it life and I look forward to death

@mussaramadan 6 ай бұрын

You forgot your first kiss, woman, toy, favorite meal,.......

@MMAGUY13 6 ай бұрын

@@mussaramadan if there was no God, then it was not worth it. I’d rather have not been brought into existence and stay sleeping, then to be in a fetal position on my deathbed going into the blackness after a lifetime of struggle. But yes you’re right there are moments in life where it is joyful and I’m taking my cross and I’m going forward. Jesus says he will fold his universe up and make a brand new one made for happiness right now God is dealing with the Devil with man’s rebellion with sin as soon as that’s all destroyed then we will live the way God intended

@mussaramadan 6 ай бұрын

@MMAGUY13 God is real the proof is the universe. This universe is marvelous made by a marvelous God. So we are a products of a marvelous God. The suffering is just one part of that product, and it's necessary, and Jesus came with a message from God to us, "minimize the suffering "

@MMAGUY13 6 ай бұрын

@@mussaramadan amen. I have the same worldview as you were in a world, cursed by God at the beginning with Adam and Eve, and I’m waiting for the redemption of our souls and a new creation. In the Bible agrees with me men’s days are short and filled with trouble. You could just look out your window and see war, disease and poverty, but I’m following Christ.

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

If you didn’t realize it, there probably wasn’t that much of it. If there was a lot of suffering in ones life, anyone would be able to notice it in themselves without any shred of doubt. I’m sure you’ve had good moments too.

@tonysandy7803 5 ай бұрын

Loneliness is a withdrawal symptom from contact with others (unconscious addiction). To be alone is the choice to deliberately withdraw from the company of others (conscious choice). It is the desire for interaction with others that leads to conflict and misery.

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

The UNTENIBILLNESS of OPTIMISM. Felt that all my life. Now in my old age it screams it's truthfulness.

@Mostafa.7600 2 жыл бұрын

That's so great! Thank you so much for uploading it.

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

Relief always create new disturbance problems

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

And relieve you of the old and put you in a better place.

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

Schopenhauer is The Great one really because as he say men are regardless to each other so peculiar to everyone

@JB-du3qv Ай бұрын

This essay is just one banger after another!

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Maybe you should go to your SAFEROOM 😂😂😂😂

@akelofgren9468 3 ай бұрын

Dangers of life of what can happen shows in that there gives not royal protection but really,shows that suffer can take you for nothing

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

I was overwhelmed by

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

Mostly because there is no mam pleiadians christ who helps me fom moron jerks, there's schopenhauer

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Schopenhauer is so fantastic for so often like Leopardi said that when nobody loved him they could throw him in Tibern,and Lermontov how wengensed girls later for they had earlier punched mocked him.But in another planet where love is reality nobody needs to talk anymore in such loving planet

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

As a musicianartist in north l have seldom contact to musicworld,but Schopenhauer

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Of all inhuman crazyness now even my daughter react mental,crying

@bronsomccor2642 Жыл бұрын

Life is just a slow painful death

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Bingo!!!!!

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Everyone is just survive by devaur others,the beast a grave of 1000 SO FLATTERED TO BE BORN INTO

@travisedwards8299 10 ай бұрын

The Will to life , means your true essence self conditioned by Natures tricks . Schopenhauer wasn’t saying that is all we are . There is the Better Will too or better consciousness ( our true self ) will and consciousness is used synonymously with Schopenhauer

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

Immedical soul with heartache every noun

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Cant or the days to Joy and knowing whar ever has been were better not to be

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

Bright: everybody would decline such a gift if he could see ....it before him,rather a dept from the first day that have been contracted

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

Life rather than a gift[ if knowledge was there everyone would decline it ]more [Cisero Schopenhauer]like a dept that,from 'first day,have been contracted.this can change if some people not more opress others

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Adversity happy artists can not see blind

@languagegame410 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

In 1800th Paris it was HONEY for artists nowadays it is just kickings upperslopeS so it is just good with S.

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

WTF?????

@jasmelsingh4696 4 ай бұрын

❤

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Yeah life is just great. Would like to know who put me here without asking my permission.

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

I mean it's rare

@IbrahimHoldsForth Жыл бұрын

25:53 Schopo schmooooozes about David Hume

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

And that means what exactly?

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

, rather than create a future hell,the sin lies in The world, a kin to hell

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

There is no T in Spinoza

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

For instance in pianoworld to have mother father, people around who loves you like in case Rubinstein, Chopin Pavarotti so instead we have Schopenhauer this, repulsion:Polansky, Strindberg :a dream play, Martinsson:aniara

@IbrahimHoldsForth Жыл бұрын

who did what now?

@paulheinrichdietrich9518 Жыл бұрын

Is that a sentence?

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

That is not a sentence

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

What ARE you blabbering about?

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

The Will is an EFFORT HOW FRUSTRATE ITSELF,

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

Inhumen love like a tiger hurricane said Schopenhauer, and in Molieres ' Misantrop(nonhuman) and the loved fury' when Alcaste saw his belowed a promiskious gossip one he said go,as in scen from 'Victor/Victoria' when the loving girl erotik got a soap in her mouth from the man think on another

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

Bright:something agreeable is displaced with something disagreeable,living beast a grave of thousend,we feel care,not absent of care,we feel fear but not security,the way regardless men treat others is injustice,cruel,hard. The way l Wonder why as pianist Rubinsteins lifelove humanlove can hardly be my way or can it ,the bad sometimes brings about the good [Schopenhauer wondering about Leibniz]

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Please please stop. No one understands you

@akelofgren9468 2 жыл бұрын

Tainted sins(dumb jeks) rain their plaige on men(titan much) immedical soul, heartache every noun, reject every relief OLIVIATION like dogs

@sizzla123 Жыл бұрын

hmm

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

Share your thoughts

@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын

TO YELL(PUNCHE KICK)3 TIMES A DAY ON HUMAN IS VERY HEALTHY (THEY DID MUCH WORSE AGAINST ME

@IbrahimHoldsForth Жыл бұрын

this performance is decent but the narrator blows it by reading Schopo's quotations of other authors in their original language....

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Yeah he totally blew it. I'm sure you would have done SO much better. When will we be able to buy your upcoming book? 😂😂😂😂😂

@mism847 2 ай бұрын

Glass half empty kinda guy. Got a lot of wisdom and intelligence in spite of his illogical misanthropy, though.

@Daniel-ef7nk Ай бұрын

It us not a half empty glass thing, he showed that life inherently involves more pain than pleasure, I have talked to lots of people and yet never found anyone who claims to have more joy than pain after a little inward look in their lives, not even the most lucky ones.

@lynnfisher3037 14 күн бұрын

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@akelofgren9468 8 ай бұрын

WORLDS EVIL really causes GREATEST PAIN lndivids only exist by devaur eachb other filthy beats A GRAVE OF THOUSENDS