Schumann Konzertstück für 4 Hörner und Orchester. Live Konzert, Philharmonie Köln, 17.04.2015 Paul van Zelm, Ludwig Rast, Rainer Jurkiewickz, Joachim Pöltl. WDR Sinfonie Orchester, Heinz Holliger
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@wielandbeer4 жыл бұрын
Ich kann nur sagen: Eine unfassbare traumsichere , musikalisch und technisch einwandfreie Interpretation dieses herrlichen Stückes ! Ich war selbst einmal Hornist ,und bin begeistert! Herzlichen Glückwunsch an die großen "Vier" und das Orchester!! Ich wünsche Ihnen GOTTES Segen!
@albertsteinhauser47283 жыл бұрын
Wunderbar, sowohl das Orchester als auch natürlich die vier Solisten! Was da von den vier Hörnern, bes. vom 1. Horn verlangt wird, ist unheimlich. Sie haben es super gemeistert. Bravi!!!
@peterchellew13256 жыл бұрын
One of the most exciting renditions I've heard!! Pity the hall wasn't filled to capacity.
@urmorph7 жыл бұрын
50 years ago a performance of this piece was a rarity. It's a tribute to today's excellent schooling worldwide how many orchestras can field it with their own horn sections. And for sheer exuberance the music is unequaled-- Schumann (as Florestan) running into the room and exclaiming excitedly, "Hey, guys, look what you can do with these new valved horns!"
@maikel3716 жыл бұрын
But the first horn in the World premiere played it on a natural horn!!! :O
@josj07064 жыл бұрын
I agree. The funny thing about the invention of valved horns was that the music world's initial reaction was something along the lines of "that's cheating! Valved horns make playing too easy! Natural horns are the true way to play!"
@cmw12 Жыл бұрын
@@maikel371 Seriously?
@maikel371 Жыл бұрын
@@cmw12 yes!
@bult155 жыл бұрын
Fine playing. I love the special closeup shot of the two most insignificant notes in the trumpet repertoire at 3:06...
@MmANCZ3 жыл бұрын
:DDD
@phyllisderuijter30365 жыл бұрын
Een van de mooiste en beste uitvoeringen die ik ooit gehoord heb. Paul speelde weer fantastisch zoals altijd eigenlijk, de hele groep trouwens . groetjes Lenno
@trainliker1004 жыл бұрын
This piece is especially a workout for the first horn, even if playing on a descant or a triple. Orchestral pieces for horn sections often dole out high challenging parts to different chair positions so one doesn't get so worn out. In the Schumann, the first horn simply has nowhere to hide and the high notes are piled on throughout. When Radek Baborak plays first horn on this piece he uses a regular double horn. And toward the end you can see he is really getting a workout.
@elikronenberg2293 жыл бұрын
Check out the recording with Dohr and Clevenger playing 1st and 2nd
@sakuntalabasu14932 жыл бұрын
A wonderful piece of music which I found by chance and am absolutely enthralled - glorious performance. What made it more appealing were the very illuminating comments by other listeners. This is why I prefer KZfaq over other music streaming services. I find the comments section always interesting , especially suggestions by other listeners of other interpretations of the same music. Many thanks for this post
@HelenaWilliams86967 жыл бұрын
The four french horns have their smooth graceful melodic voice that shimmer and sparkle Schumann's overwhelmingly beautiful composition. A simply wonderful captivating musical treasure. Sublime & Heartfelt.
@Sokx41 Жыл бұрын
It was the similar sound of multiple horns playing at the beginni ng of Weber's Overature to Der Weber's Freischütz that pulled me into horn playing, Unfortunately I stopped after my freshman year at college in 1960. This was on a 78 rpm record of the insturments of the orchestra recorded in the 1940s.
@Sokx41 Жыл бұрын
I need to add the best sound for me is in the lower registers.
@ILovePeanutButer71816 жыл бұрын
the passage at 7:20 is absolutely unreal. 7:25 there is a high E in the first horn part. I can't believe that he even hits it! my god
@Gallahaut5 жыл бұрын
And at 16:56 and 19:32.
@changchp4 жыл бұрын
Reached A5 at 16'55 and 19'32.
@cmcer19953 жыл бұрын
I really love it when horns get to play a standout part in music, but throughout was amazing. Better than after beats any day, even though that is important too..
@jamesswan81944 жыл бұрын
This is the best rendition I have heard. As a former horn player I'm absolutely amazed at the expression achieved over the whole length of the piece by first horn. Beautiful teamwork by all. MUSIC!! Bravo!
@ralphhotz Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@danieldekok69494 жыл бұрын
What a majestic performance! Bravo, all!
@142tete7 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully inspired Schumann, in the same spirit as his Third Symphony. Excellent playing by both soloists and orchestra, very effectively conducted by former oboe player Holliger. Too bad that so many seats in the hall remained empty.
@somebody9033 Жыл бұрын
Holliger is not a "former oboe player". He is alive and well, and playing oboe.
@phthartic5 жыл бұрын
Best part: around 18:12 all 4 parts racing upward in harmony. Tingles every time.
@gerardbegni28066 жыл бұрын
Schumann is often considered as a wonderful writer for piano and as a rather bad orchestrator. But who before him has dared such a thing? He had an instrumental curiosity which he showed on too rare circumstancces, and this is the most spectacular. Let us watch and admire this gorgeous music. The soloists are wonderful, the orchestra conducted by Holliger is excellent.
@neemiasmoreira960110 ай бұрын
Berlioz?
@flutist2185 жыл бұрын
An amazingly gorgeous and inspiring piece of music. The horn is a difficult instrument to play.
@dabedwards7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Schumann! Again, breathtaking originality. What else is like it? You know from the very start, with that arresting call on the 4 horns, something quite special is coming. He just seemed to let creation flow without regard for established forms and conventions. For me, this natural outpouring of music is unsurpassed, even by mighty Mozart who amazes me but does not charm me as much.
@robertberger42037 жыл бұрын
As a former horn player I can tell you that this piece is hellishly difficult for the first horn . It's the musical equivalent of walking tightrope without a net over hungry lions and a pool full of sharks ! Schumann wrote it as a showpiece for the then relatively new valved horn and he went overboard with the insanely high first horn part .
@raymondgood23597 жыл бұрын
I've always thought Schumann the most original composer, from the Davidsbundlertanze to the mighty double concerto, for me he is unsurpassed!
@raymondgood23597 жыл бұрын
oops, I'm confusing him with Brahms who is also if possible, unsurpassed!
@shin-i-chikozima2 жыл бұрын
This wonderful performance is a paramount gift to Horn lovers This splendor of words can not attach it My emotion is immeasurable depths FromTokyo Which National person are tyou seeing this stellar video?
@FindingWendy2 жыл бұрын
Wow.. fantastic playing!!
@FourfuxAche7 жыл бұрын
Great playing orchestra and soloists.
@waggishsagacity79475 жыл бұрын
WJohnM: 50 and maybe even 35 years ago Schumann's music was played by boring conductors who, somehow, believed that all 19th century music (and possibly mostly the Romantics) were supposed to be played as though they were made of straw. Thankfully -- as you point out ---someone realized that this music was lively, exuberant, bubbling, and above all, musically fantastic. This odd attitude applied to all the symphonies, overtures and other Schumann pieces.
@barryguerrero76524 жыл бұрын
The WDR S.O. Koln used to be simply indicated as the Cologne Radio S.O. - it's the same thing. They have a strong tradition in playing Mahler, among other things. They're very good. I think it really helps that the timpanist doesn't overplay in this performance.
@rajheet5 жыл бұрын
My first recording of this work was with Georges Barboteu on first horn. I think it was on the Nonesuch label. That was heroic playing. These guys make it sound easy (it is not). Wonderful performance.
@christopherotto54335 жыл бұрын
Mine too! An orchestra from Rheinland if I'm remembering correctly... The horns had such a bright sound, like French orchestras' horns. I always loved comparing how horn sections had different sounds from country to country, from orchestra to orchestra.
@alifrank10172 жыл бұрын
Also ich bin begeistert, prima Orchester und natürlich die klasse Hörner.
@BryanHalo1233 жыл бұрын
Grabs you from the start. Thanks for posting it.
@Rx-mn5fv6 жыл бұрын
What else can be said? Only - thank goodness it's available!
@rileydowning82854 жыл бұрын
My face would be so shot
@Yuna114724 жыл бұрын
sounds soo great!bravo the frist horn and grande Ludwig!
@wennnhsu56136 жыл бұрын
Really moved my heart
@michaelrosa20154 жыл бұрын
Very exciting from a man that knows a thing or three about wind/brass instrument playing...a Heinz Holliger sighting!
@giancarlopiligp7 жыл бұрын
solo Schumann poteva comporre una simile pazzia! quattro corni messi alla frusta dal compositore cinico e perverso. I love Schumann!!!!
@familiasanchezvargas39054 жыл бұрын
..Potencia de los horns.....y te invitan a salir adelante, en la situación que estese. Gracias "nalogo" por compartir. Saludos desde Ecuador La Tierra mas cercana al Dios Sol.
@marioalonsosanchezparedes60044 жыл бұрын
..¡ Que poder..!...de música... Schumann..tiene tal inspiración..que en el minuto 15:16..te realza tu espiritu aletargado.. Gracias por compartir NALOGO..!!
@atli8d205 жыл бұрын
You guys sound great!
@terencetan54784 жыл бұрын
Pls give credits to the 4 player and name them here, which i personally know them all. They did an amazing job.
@svtryst41762 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Nicely done!
@user-tc4nj8uo3o7 жыл бұрын
Потрясающе!
@bernardparret3191 Жыл бұрын
Nalogo, a tracklist would be most welcome. Anyhow, thank you for uploading such a splendid rendition !
@user-kj2vc5uk7p3 жыл бұрын
ホルンの音かっこいい!! 音の圧すごすぎ!!
@arianotte83904 жыл бұрын
Très beau !!👏👏
@ruron34945 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing that high E on natural horn!
@Apfelstrudl4 жыл бұрын
Why would you do that. It is composed to showcase the new valved horns.
@kaitoshirogane55635 жыл бұрын
16:54 does the first horn go up to a high F here? That's crazyyyy
@nalogo89485 жыл бұрын
In fact it is a high E... Still crazy... 😃
@genildoferreira3518 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!
@evgeniyhornyst5 жыл бұрын
Молодцы!!!
@hornkix8 жыл бұрын
bravoooooooo !!!
@doreen55822 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@dolcevita56293 жыл бұрын
GREAT !!!
@kn-bm4eh Жыл бұрын
16:07 Joachim Pöltlさんの低音素敵… 本当にこの4人とこのオーケストラの組み合わせを日本でも見たい それにしても、paul van zelmさん鬼の体力😂
@frantyozorawattilete47424 жыл бұрын
12:31 look at that guy's hair (the violinist) hehe. Anyway, thank you for the video!
@SuperBalduin Жыл бұрын
Hut ab 🎩
@vad1moSs6 жыл бұрын
Bravo!👏👏👏👏
@Steve-bc8el7 жыл бұрын
Who is the 1st horn player here? Unreal.
@nalogo89487 жыл бұрын
Paul van Zelm :-) with his horn-colleagues
@judyfarah70616 жыл бұрын
where is YOUR recording of it?
@DrakeLovett5 жыл бұрын
3 silver 103s! :O
@gloriaetes22383 жыл бұрын
I'm reading a biography of Robert Schumann right now that mentioned this work. I have never heard it before. It's amazing!!!
@pauliuslukauskas38347 жыл бұрын
bravooooo
@phillipecook32273 жыл бұрын
Smashing playing of a rarely heard pice. I remember reading years ago that such was the poor standard of professional horn playing in England that this piece was performed in the early 1900s in London ( by a section made up mostly of members of one family) and didn't receive a live performance in England again until 1971?
@nicolasfauvel59343 жыл бұрын
This probably came from Stephen Pettitt's biography of Dennis Brain (pub. Robert Hale, London. 1976) Pettitt wrote (p. 23) that that the Op. 86 Konzertstück was given its first performance in England by the horn section of Henry Wood's orchestra (the Queen's Hall Orchestra) at one of Wood's Promenade Concerts on 8th October 1909 and that the work "was not heard again in England until April 1971". Pettitt also says that the players in that 1909 performance were, in fact, Alfred Brain (Dennis' uncle), Fred Salkeld, Oskar Borsdorf (Adolf Borsdorf's eldest son) and G.W. Smith. [Alfred's brother, Aubrey (Dennis' father), was only 16 and not yet studying at the RCM. Their father, A.E. Brain Snr., was playing horn at Covent Garden at the time.]
@phillipecook32273 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasfauvel5934 Many thanks Nicolas. That's a heck of a gap in performances even allowing for two World Wars in the intervening period. I believe that Boult was once asked his opinion of orchestral standards in the 1900s compared to the 1970s. He observed that standards were pretty much the same in all departments with one exception: the horns. So I suppose Boult corroborated what Pettit implied in his book.
@nicolasfauvel59343 жыл бұрын
@@phillipecook3227 Exactly! That was indeed Pettitt's implication. He did not make any detailed comparison with horn playing standards elsewhere, although noting the several high-quality German players (like Adolf Borsdorf) who became established in England during the later part of the 19th Century. It is an interesting comment attributed to Boult about orchestral standards. I wonder how much technical developments in the horn have contributed to today's relative abundance of fine players? As a flute player I would have loved to ask Boult his opinion of the use of vibrato by wind players by the 1970s compared to earlier generations. Finally, as another anecdote, I played with Denis Matthews on several occasions in the late 1970s and he was at that time still of the opinion that Dennis Brain was the finest horn player that he had ever heard, not withstanding the high profile players then on the London scene. What a pity that Dennis Brain did not record the Schumann Konzertstück!
@phillipecook32273 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasfauvel5934 Indeed. Those whom the Gods love .... at least we do have a definitive recording of Britten's Serenade.
@pbj4toast5 жыл бұрын
Any opinions on his tempo at the end? It seemed too fast to me. I haven't heard it end at such a fast tempo.
@Studio22Productions4 жыл бұрын
That's how it's written. If the players can do it it's what Schumann had in mind.
@bckm545 жыл бұрын
two questions: 1) Does the first horn HAVE to be a descant? and 2) I've heard that plastic horns are pretty good. But I have a hard time conceiving the they're anywhere near as good as these magnificent instruments. What do you think? (PS When I played, my major instrument was viola.)
@nalogo89485 жыл бұрын
I'm not a hornplayer myself, but I heard it doesn't have to be a descant, but it helps...plastic horns? No way!
@user-yl1wi5xe3o5 жыл бұрын
first horn have descant
@lhanna425 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the make of horns being used?
@nalogo89485 жыл бұрын
1st hoorn Paxman Compensating Triple, the rest Alexander 103
@wennnhsu56136 жыл бұрын
Nice sound!
@pauliuslukauskas38347 жыл бұрын
Liudwik bravoo
@farkaskarsai82035 жыл бұрын
Wow
@ivonnefischer1359Ай бұрын
😊🎶
@imapaine-diaz44517 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this played on natural horns! It must have taken some sharp agility, talent and teamwork!
@dkirk236 жыл бұрын
Not possible. Schumann was the first composer to write regularly for the new valved horn. Like in his "Adagio and Allegro" for solo horn and piano.
@ComtedeMonteC6 жыл бұрын
Yes as Douglas Kirk remarks it would be impossible to play this work on the natural horn.
@jardcarl6 жыл бұрын
This piece was actually previewed as the one of the first pieces for the "chromatic horn" and they actually had to get two natural horns to play it on the preview because no one wanted to switch to the new, heavier chromatic horn (the horn we know and love today)
@dudeforcaster86305 жыл бұрын
@@jardcarl sorry bud, that's a load of bull. The score clearly calls for 4 valve horns there are 2 natural horns in the orchrstra. There is also no documentary evidence to support your assertion. If by some chance you can quote the citation you are talking out of your hat.
@johnstobart70284 жыл бұрын
@@dudeforcaster8630 I'm not sure you're right, unlikely as it sounds. I have also heard the rumor that in the first performance, the principal horn got cold feet and played on the natural horn he was used to, rather than this new-fangled instrument, that was still experimental and unreliable. I have played a great deal of natural horn and the first part would be conceivable on natural horn, though extremely uneven; he others definitely not. Schumann wrote for the valve-horn partly because he didn't really understand the natural horn and was made fun of in the press for writing a stopped note in the signal at the opening of the Spring Symphony.
@AndreasGoldbach3 жыл бұрын
Super
@isaaclee78478 жыл бұрын
BRAVO
@hsh19502 жыл бұрын
Bravi!
@onceltom5 жыл бұрын
THE SALT IN THIS PIECE IS THE PICCOLO. IT SHOULD BE DOUBLED. IT GIVES THE RIGHT ELEMENT OF HYSTERIA....FUROR TEUTONICUS.
@marichristian10723 жыл бұрын
I agree! Brilliant.
@thejils16695 жыл бұрын
After listening to this marvelous rendition of one of Schumann's all time greatest and unique creations...dare I say it...I feel so (French) horny!
@stombun10 ай бұрын
16:52
@herlufbnn81713 жыл бұрын
8:00
@SquidKing Жыл бұрын
Gustav is that you?
@parzenbua4 жыл бұрын
Geiler scheiß
@alexandrecosta40163 жыл бұрын
A rarity, indeed. Sounds like "jäger" (hunters) musik, tempered with the unavoidable "romantic scenarios of closed forests", neighbouring the Rhône. Great surprise...
@ft73392 жыл бұрын
In this contex please also hear: C.H. HÜBLER : CONCERTO FOR 4 HORNS AND ORCHESTRA kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msiJgryH27m0gqM.html
@karlhpfeiffer3 жыл бұрын
Schumann verwendet da Horn oft in der höchsten Lage, wo es am wenigsten nach Horn klingt. Warum? Er muss Hornisten gehabt haben die in der Clarinlage besonders gut waren und vemutlich mit besonderen Mundstücken spielten. Waldhornklang wie er in der romantischen Ära verstanden wurde ist das nicht. Eher ein Akaziestückl, wie man in Wien sagt.