Schwarzlose 1898 Semiauto Pistol

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

9 жыл бұрын

The model 1898 Schwarzlose was a self loading pistol definitely ahead of its time. It was simple, powerful (for the period; it was chambered for 7.63mm Mauser), and remarkably ergonomic. It used a short recoil, rotating bolt mechanism to operate, and very cleverly had one single spring which did the duties of primary recoil spring, striker spring, trigger spring, and extractor spring. Why it failed to become a commercial success is a question I have not been able to definitively answer - I suspect it must have been due to cost. Edward Ezell theorizes that it was unable to compete with the Borchardt/Luger and Mauser pistols because those were able to be made with much more economy of scale. It is really a shame, because the Schwarzlose 1898 is the best of all the pre-1900 handguns I have encountered.

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@owengadd7329
@owengadd7329 4 жыл бұрын
i love how casually he mentions that its serial number one
@williamcattr267
@williamcattr267 3 жыл бұрын
Ian is a casual kind of guy. You won't see him get to animated or giddy over things. Just another day on the job so to speak.
@paulbrozyna3006
@paulbrozyna3006 3 жыл бұрын
I think you might want to watch a few more of his videos there.
@natethenotsogreat8349
@natethenotsogreat8349 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamcattr267 except over a full auto makarov
@davidcruz8667
@davidcruz8667 2 жыл бұрын
Should have seen him fire an M14 in full auto: "Wow!". 😁
@WachVhs
@WachVhs 2 жыл бұрын
He could get a spitfire for that
@22spedos
@22spedos 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously. a Modern reproduction of this criminally underrated semi auto would be amazing
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
@Genktarov
@Genktarov 5 жыл бұрын
I'm interested.
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
Please Email your full name, city, State and country of residence and citizenship to kys1@rocketmail.com or message me on Twitter @75_kal. Disclaimer: I only sell to US citizens and residents. You are responsible for knowing your local and State regulations. I am in full compliance with Iowa, Federal regulations and local ordinances.
@beelz5932
@beelz5932 5 жыл бұрын
@@kennynoble1223 Do you have an estimated MSRP?
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
@@beelz5932 I'm not a business, so no. I build and sell on a private basis only, at least for now. In the future, if I get the resources to take on the overhead and liability of business, that might change. For now, this is more of a private hobby and activism sort of thing than anything else.
@GetTheFO
@GetTheFO 9 жыл бұрын
I really feel terrible for many of the gun designers whose work you showcase. They created these beautiful and functional firearms with much of their time and money, yet fade away in the pages of history...
@physixger
@physixger 5 жыл бұрын
Remember Schwarzlose's MG was successful. So it's not all bad for him.
@roteroktober360
@roteroktober360 5 жыл бұрын
@@physixger yes
@roteroktober360
@roteroktober360 5 жыл бұрын
@@physixger yep, but its basically just a Maxim chambered for 8x50R Mannlicher if I am not mistaken
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын
roteroktober420 the Schwarzlose MG is a delayed blowback machine gun. Not anyway related to the Maxim gun.
@roteroktober360
@roteroktober360 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackandersen1262 oh sorry my bad, so doesnt this technically make the Schwarzlose more reliable than a Maxim? I mean the Maxim has a lot more moving parts
@adrianlarkins7259
@adrianlarkins7259 9 жыл бұрын
Considering its age, this little pistol is way ahead of its time. It's an absolute mystery as to why it did not sell. Even if it was pricey, one would have thought there were a sufficient number of wealthy people to buy such an advanced, reliable handgun. With a reinforced backstop, I would be quite happy to shoot it. As you say, Ian, I wish a replica was manufactured.
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
@jamesletendre6456
@jamesletendre6456 5 жыл бұрын
@@kennynoble1223 Updates?
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesletendre6456 Looks like I'm going to be doing this on my own, so I did redesign the replica to be something I could build with my skill level and available tools at this time. No longer to be chambered For Bordchardt, after much research and tweaking of my design for an antique replica, of this pistol, for legal and practical reasons, some changes were made: -The chamber would be for .41RF (.41 Short), in a smooth bore barrel made of brass to increase velocity* and to prevent it from safely firing modern ammo. -Black powder only, but I suppose .410 hulls (no shell), 15 grains FFFG black powder, 209 percussion caps and lead slugs would do in a pinch. Without the shell, it technically wouldn't be modern ammo. Chamber's not long enough to hold even the shortest .410 shell -magazine capacity 6 rounds internal or 5 round removable -4" barrel length for the 6 round "compact" and 6" barrel length for the "full size" variant. This would ensure an ideal balance between pistol size and the round's velocity. -Also, the action is a bit different than the original. DAO, but still would retain a very similar look and feel to the original weapon from the outside just picking up and looking at it. Even the firing pin would function about the same. No rotating bolt or movable barrel, though. Straight recoil and fixed barrel, for simplicity, keeping cost and potential risk for issues low, for the relatively low energy of the round (think the original .36 cal. brass framed 1851 Navy and it'd be a good approx.), and to make it even further prohibitive to try modifying this weapon to use modern ammo. A rotating bolt would likely result in failures to eject or to fully recoil the slide/bolt unit, anyway. -I've also been able to set a specific price to build this replica antique firearm on demand, and have decided private sale, up to 2 transactions yearly, would be the most I can handle at this time. -$750 per unbranded, privately crafted replica of Schwarzlose 1898 antique firearm/pistol, built and shipped. -$5.50 + shipping cost per package of 5 spent/unprimed and clean brass hulls/cases, and 5 .41" di. lead slugs/bullets, about 96 grains each. Contact me kys1@rocketmail.com for questions, payment instructions, process or other information. I do not make ammunition, sell or ship primers, caps, powders or other explosive/hazardous materials. *EST up to 672 FPS or 96 ft-lbs with suggested load, 6" barrel and black powder substitute.
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
​@Heatalatur Think what you want. In my opinion people shouldn't just level baseless accusations out of the blue like you just did. If you must know, 1 reason I don't do videos is because the last time I made a detailed, specific public post about any of my work about as neat as this, somebody bigger and richer than I am copied it and screwed me out of 1 of my best inventions. I try not to make the same mistakes twice. Your reply seems ironic, because I don't want to get ripped off! However, if you shoot me an Email, and if you sign an NDA and non-compete agreement, I might share.
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 5 жыл бұрын
@Heatalatur No. To me, you look like somebody randomly slandering/defaming others. I don't know why some people troll ambitious people over the internet. Could it be that you're jealous? Maybe you should channel that energy into something more positive, for yourself. Just my 2 cents or so. Good luck and good bye.
@Nibenni
@Nibenni 9 жыл бұрын
The slow-mo is like watching clockwork machinery. Simply beautiful.
@josephk.4200
@josephk.4200 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ian just found his new carry gun. :^)
@nak6050
@nak6050 9 жыл бұрын
nice meme face
@ASDKFJ1234
@ASDKFJ1234 9 жыл бұрын
REMOVE MUGABE :^))))))
@jna3341
@jna3341 8 жыл бұрын
+REMOVE MUGABE Emoticon*
@tophatminion.7558
@tophatminion.7558 5 жыл бұрын
that meme face when you love a gun that might shoot the bolt back into your face.
@dwightehowell8179
@dwightehowell8179 4 жыл бұрын
Not available for less than 2,000 is my guess.
@ParisFletcher
@ParisFletcher 3 жыл бұрын
So this legendary pistol was made when cowboys were still roamin' around, that's so wild.
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 3 жыл бұрын
I think to most Europeans it's wild how late cowboys were a thing.
@jeffbenton6183
@jeffbenton6183 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamlandipper29 As an American, I usually think of 1890 being the end of the "Wild West" era.
@davidcruz8667
@davidcruz8667 2 жыл бұрын
Hey now, cowboys are still roaming around. Six-shooters maybe.
@davidcruz8667
@davidcruz8667 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamlandipper29 cowboys are still a thing. We're still out there wrangling cattle. And yep, we still mostly dress the same. You should see my hat, you can set up camp under it.
@VinEllis
@VinEllis 2 жыл бұрын
Cowboys are still around. Maybe you’re thinking of outlaws/gunslingers.
@member5488
@member5488 7 жыл бұрын
Really impressive for being nearly 120 years old. Also, the potential weakness with the slide retainer could be easily fixed by making it have a reinforcing web on the thin area below the drilled circle that runs in line with the barrel. That would make the part longer at the base where it interacts with the receiver. That little bit of extra length would then allow that assembly to be placed into the receiver via vertical dovetailing, and finally, a pin that only has to keep the part in the receiver, but is under no other stress. Very little machine time added to remove any chance of that part failing.
@Snandra66
@Snandra66 9 жыл бұрын
Seems like Germany was very early in making semi-auto pistols.
@anter176
@anter176 9 жыл бұрын
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming something somethin germany something engineering something something
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming Yes, and also manual repeating pistols. Germans and Austrians were definitely on the bleeding edge at the time.
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Could the Mars be considered one of the first automatic pistols? I mean, it's from 1897.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
leonardo tavares dardenne Early, but not quite one of the first.
@BattlesBlades
@BattlesBlades 9 жыл бұрын
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming germany was very early into everything,so much so it makes ppl believe in aliens :) UFO "experts" use the tech explosion in 1950's USA as proof of alien contact, totally ignoring the tech grab of ww2 by russia and usa from germany,that fueled the space race and cold war between usa and russia/ussr.
@LJVolkov21
@LJVolkov21 8 жыл бұрын
Ian: your pronunciation of Schwarzlose is actually excellent. It can still be perfected, but I don't want to be pedantic either... =) I just want to say that your constant efforts to get the pronunciation of foreign names right are exactly one of the things I appreciate most about your videos. Keep up the good work!
@sumitsonkar8481
@sumitsonkar8481 6 жыл бұрын
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@sumitsonkar8481
@sumitsonkar8481 6 жыл бұрын
BeyondTagusLynx
@pforce9
@pforce9 6 жыл бұрын
BeyondTagusLynx Just remember to pronounce "W" as though it were a "V" and you nailed it.
@dgor79
@dgor79 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, if Ian will pronounce the second 's' like English 'z' sound, and 'e' like in word 'end', it will be perfect!
@masterchief6631
@masterchief6631 4 жыл бұрын
You are actually all wrong. It’s pronounced “Shh-warzt-los”
@kickboxs77
@kickboxs77 4 жыл бұрын
I love how casually he just mentions that this is serial no 1
@Xerxes17
@Xerxes17 Жыл бұрын
In the recent Polenar Tactical video Ian mentioned this gun and I was curious to know more but had no idea on how to write it, thankfully the algorithm provides.
@QuellicheilMarza
@QuellicheilMarza 9 жыл бұрын
Impressive gun, never even heard of it which is a disgrace, should be widely praised. Thank you so much. And thanks Steve.
@thomasshelbyasmrconnoiseur7046
@thomasshelbyasmrconnoiseur7046 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it in a roblox game
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 6 ай бұрын
I once owned a High Standard Duramatic .22LR Semi-auto that looked a lot like this pistol, the same time I also owned a Ruger Standard model .22, I much prefered the High Standard, it shot better, was more accurate and, just a better made pistol even with the large screw under the frame that held the barrel on the Duramatic. I miss that pistol almost as much as I miss my Luger and Model 25-5 Smith in .45 Long Colt, and Llama .380 mini M1911.
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 7 жыл бұрын
This pistol is better-designed than some things you'll find on the market today. It really is a shame it didn't take off- I guess it was too far ahead of its time. Imagine a reproduction with modern materials and a more solid design on that blocking ring.
@rawdrywall8212
@rawdrywall8212 2 жыл бұрын
and just imagine what it would look like with a red dot or a laser.
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to get one!
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
Im honestly amazed at how modern this gun seems! Seriously, wow! If I didnt know the date and someone asked, id take a guess at maybe the interwar years or WWII era!... But 1898?!? The 19th century!! Holy crap, im amazed. The Germans truly were at the forefront of designs. The simple action with modern thumb controls, single spring and rotating bolt (like an AR?)... I cant see how this failed either unless it was purely and singularly cost based like you said, Because it cant be because of the design! Also Ian, youre an awesome presenter. I dont think you get enough thanks. Ive learned so much from your channel/videos, theyre a great resource! You remind me of a teacher I had in school whom everyone liked because he explained things in a way that was clear, fun and everyone understood. You are informative without being condescending. I like that. Its refreshing. Really well made video guys. BTW this probably is a bit random, but please continue to upload your videos to KZfaq! I understand the need for a video site like full30 that is just for the shooting sports, but most of your audience is on youtube. Id rather watch vids here. (Just consider it please, because ive seen a lot of links leading back to full30 lately!)
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed also. I didn't think modern machining required to make such a weapon even existed at that point.
@stevenb7355
@stevenb7355 Жыл бұрын
I came here after the Polenar Tactical podcast video. Love it
@SigmarJuffe
@SigmarJuffe 9 жыл бұрын
Best gun and history channel on youtube. Good job. =)
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ Ай бұрын
Came from the colab with Johnathan Ferguson the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history to see it fire.
@MadnessOfMarmots
@MadnessOfMarmots 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons and Hickock45 - two best gun reviewers/channels on KZfaq. Imagine if they got together for a video....
@braedenmetz888
@braedenmetz888 3 жыл бұрын
No crossover episode
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic 5 жыл бұрын
That slow motion was a thing of awe and beauty.
@skyethegoose
@skyethegoose 2 жыл бұрын
Despite being almost 120 years old when this was recorded, the reliability is quite incredible
@102819921
@102819921 9 жыл бұрын
no kidding on the modern design. schwarzlose was onto something. some great engineering there.
@finalfantasy50
@finalfantasy50 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for making the video and thank you Steve for letting Ian make the video. It looks pretty balanced and fun to shoot.
@jesuizanmich
@jesuizanmich 9 жыл бұрын
that's so cool. Looking at the lugs lock-in while leaving the striker pin behind, ready to fire, was very satisfying.
@capq57
@capq57 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I really love getting the in-depth view of the mechanics in some of these old guns.
@googIesux
@googIesux 9 жыл бұрын
wow this design is impressive! extremely well thought-out.
@hank9366
@hank9366 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen this pistol. Love this postol. Thanks
@FokkerAce1917
@FokkerAce1917 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting! I've been searching for a video of this pistol shooting for so long! This made my day :)
@NormReitzel
@NormReitzel 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you got to actually shoot a Serial #1 weapon! Super-Duper! I'm horribly envious.
@ianbabcock6802
@ianbabcock6802 7 жыл бұрын
Ways I think this could be turned into a modern pistol 1: add a modern slide system 2: shorten action so it fits within the slide 3: swap safety and bolt release lever positions 4: solid milled aluminum or steel frame 5: double stack feed system 6: .22 LR, 9x19mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP chamberings
@Tuton25
@Tuton25 7 жыл бұрын
So...a glock?
@ianbabcock6802
@ianbabcock6802 7 жыл бұрын
Tuton25 No. The Glock uses a tilting barrel locking system whereas this uses a rotating bolt. I would keep the rotating bolt.
@markotesla2016
@markotesla2016 7 жыл бұрын
the most natural caliber for this pistol would be Tok, if you shortened the action, you could perhaps lengthen the barrel too, that would also be a plus.
@av0-cad03
@av0-cad03 5 жыл бұрын
skeleton Yeah, but if you're buying his revised version you're probably getting it because it's unique and reliable, not because it's a perfect replica of a really cool 19th. century pistol.
@alessioyautja612
@alessioyautja612 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like an amazing little handgun, very innovative. Thanks to Steve and Ian for coming together to show this to us ^^ I can see why you'd want one, though I would personally want to do a little research into preventing that slide problem :P
@gerardburke2517
@gerardburke2517 2 жыл бұрын
Long time fan of FW's KZfaq Channel but just seen this video. Well worth the watch. Criminally underrated is what I describe this pistol as, has to be cost
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 9 жыл бұрын
The machine work looks very smooth indeed. Very high quality build. I wish a lot of these older designs were reproduced. In fact, if I had the capital to play with, I would try create such a company, specializing in reproductions of older designs.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 9 жыл бұрын
Jesse Sisolack So, like Pietta/Uberti? Because that's what they do. And if you can get your cost/safety ratio right, it can be a pretty profitable venture.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 9 жыл бұрын
DFX2KX Yes, but they have a specific nitch they fill, mostly late 1800s designs.
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 Жыл бұрын
Me to bro I'd love to get one!
@Karelwolfpup
@Karelwolfpup 9 жыл бұрын
fascinating to watch the slow-mo and the mechanism of the pistol in action
@pinkietime7245
@pinkietime7245 9 жыл бұрын
Dude your videos are to educational and formal for the average youtube audience, you should be on the history channel or discovery lol Great video by the way!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks, but the History Channel doesn't actually do history anymore. There is much better history on KZfaq, compared to Ancient Aliens, Hunting Bigfoot, and whatever else they have on cable anymore. Television is a dying medium.
@rattfink17
@rattfink17 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons agreed.
@pinkietime7245
@pinkietime7245 9 жыл бұрын
That wasnt dig at you by the way!
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons they still have a reasonable amount of of actual history on History, but most of the good stuff is on the more expensive H2... I'll put my vote in for PBS, because at least they still have plenty of documentaries.
@lostfound8112
@lostfound8112 7 жыл бұрын
nah a pro show would stop him from rambling and going off on tangents,,,which is the best part
@bretthompson3865
@bretthompson3865 9 жыл бұрын
I'm just astonished (and grateful !) that the owner would let you fire and disassemble this early (!!) pistol. Many thanks...
@josephg.2988
@josephg.2988 9 жыл бұрын
I can see such an advanced pistol being reproduced, and in 7.63 Mauser or, as an alternative, 9mm for marketing purposes.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 жыл бұрын
9mm might be too much for this design. Maybe with modifications. I would love to see a reproduction also.
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 6 жыл бұрын
I think the design could actually handle 9 mm fairly easily; the internal ballistics of 7.63 Mauser and 9 Parabellum aren't all that different (as long as you don't insist on feeding it 9 mm +P+); the main problem would be that obvious weak point at the back of the frame.
@redwolfexr
@redwolfexr 5 жыл бұрын
@@nindger4270 Too much of the 9MM ammo out there is NATO or +P to depend on people "knowing better." .380 or .38 Super would be the best option -- available but not in really hot loads. Really a .32 would work, given that its already a 7.63 design. (or even just keep 7.63 -- the ammo IS out there)
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 4 жыл бұрын
Please don't spoil the concept by raising the bore to 9mm, she is fantastic in 7.63, what a wonderful cartridge, I have had both a broom handle, and a Tokarev not the cheap crap from recent China manufacturer, but a bring home from a GI, who captured it in Vietnam. After the GI found that I had ammo for it, he begged for it back, so I sold it back for what I had given, and sold him the 300 round of surplus mauser ammo I had picked up in Shotgun News. He had been trying to feed it on 30 Luger and having some funny shaped cases after firing them. Ah well, he is gone now, as many of my friends. Wonder what happened to his pistol, he also had a capture SKS still in the paper that he dug out of a pile of rice in a village in Nam, it never made it into combat, and he would not part with it. Nice SKS as well with the blade bayonet and Russian markings, like the pistol.
@marcelackle1279
@marcelackle1279 7 жыл бұрын
As all the other commenters here and on Your other vids... Top notch quality. Interesting and fun to watch. Respekt. Thanks.
@wallaroo1295
@wallaroo1295 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a magnificently ahead of it's time design!
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 6 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic piece of design. Simple and elegant. Great vid.
@tonykovatto4425
@tonykovatto4425 9 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat design from a hundred and 15 years ago. I feel better now I got my forgotten weapons fix. Its been a few days.haha. I am subscribed to a lot of firearms channels and forgotten weapons is my favorite.
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish 8 жыл бұрын
Another solid review of an awesome gun. Keep up the work!
@alexmendez713
@alexmendez713 10 күн бұрын
Its like a bolt action semi auto dope gun just found out about it today on a short video and this is like the only video i found shooting it and its always forgotten weapons youtube channel dope stuff man
@thelaughinghyenas7962
@thelaughinghyenas7962 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very, very much! I really enjoyed that. It was absolutely fascinating.
@Blastmaster1972
@Blastmaster1972 9 жыл бұрын
VERY interesting video Ian. These early designs are fantastic.
@nonameavailable4840
@nonameavailable4840 9 жыл бұрын
this is the most impressive pistol i have ever seen on your channel, except the lorenzoni of course. thank you very much for sharing this with us.
@mr.dum.p4973
@mr.dum.p4973 8 күн бұрын
my grandfather have this one and the ASTRA 600 they are cool and they still work with great condition
@ShotInTheFootAgain
@ShotInTheFootAgain 9 жыл бұрын
I had surgeries on my right shoulder and knee today and now I need to spend some downtime recovering. The Schwarzlose 1898 is a very interesting design. Thanks for posting this video. It was a wonderful distraction. Mike
@wackattack180
@wackattack180 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, Remanufacturing it in stainless steel would be real nice :)))
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 4 жыл бұрын
The rails design almost remind me of a CZ 75, my favorite modern pistol. I carry an SP-01 Every day. I'm definitely in love with this classic.
@plasmacity35
@plasmacity35 2 жыл бұрын
I will be looking for one of these for the rest of my life. A beautiful pistol and piece
@QuantumCat76
@QuantumCat76 9 жыл бұрын
That really is a cool gun! Thank you for sharing!
@Spitsz01
@Spitsz01 8 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ian, really enjoy your vids.
@olinzuercher6344
@olinzuercher6344 2 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite F W videos.
@Grarder
@Grarder 8 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant and elegant design! I wouldn't mind having one of those as well.
@rattfink17
@rattfink17 9 жыл бұрын
another awesome video, thanks for uploading and thanks for the good information!
@parallel-knight
@parallel-knight 2 жыл бұрын
This pistol is so flipping cool and it’s just so insane how modern this pistol is. 1898! That’s just ridiculous that it was made then. What a cool pistol
@majormassenspektrometer
@majormassenspektrometer 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Finally a full shooting review. ^^
@madmantaylor1674
@madmantaylor1674 8 жыл бұрын
That pistol is really well thought out and designed
@DrownInLysergic
@DrownInLysergic 10 ай бұрын
Prime example of "I guess you're not ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it"
@TobiasRieperGER
@TobiasRieperGER 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first time i hear about this weapon. Thanks for showing this great example for german gunsmithing art.
@captainnemo4770
@captainnemo4770 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a beautiful piece of machinery
@tacituskilgore5372
@tacituskilgore5372 3 жыл бұрын
3:53 touch here if you want to see the shooting. 6:18 also shoot here 7:20 magazine and how to reload the gun
@cameronjenkins6748
@cameronjenkins6748 9 жыл бұрын
Also, don't forget that the early Beretta M9's had problems with the slides breaking and hitting the shooter in the face. One thing I don't really like about this pistol is the short sight radius. Other than that, it's quite nice and brutally simple.
@VicariousReality7
@VicariousReality7 9 жыл бұрын
Cameron Jenkins I hypothesize that that rifle like sight mounting helps with sight aquisition
@cameronjenkins6748
@cameronjenkins6748 9 жыл бұрын
Shane K Not so. If you simply search "beretta m9 slide failure" you'll find plenty of evidence to the contrary including government-produced reports on the failures. The problem doesn't exist anymore now that some manufacturing problems have been eliminated.
@cameronjenkins6748
@cameronjenkins6748 9 жыл бұрын
Oh ok, I understand. I personally think it's a quite nice handgun.
@kawika850
@kawika850 9 жыл бұрын
Cameron Jenkins I was in the Army when the Army switched to M9s. I can support the fact that the m9s did have that problem. the simple solution was to put a half moon piece of steel (stopper) in the frame. Problem fixed. I wish the Army (Military) had chosen the Para Ordinance 15 (.45) f15 shot .45 variant. but they did not and the M9 is now it.
@andrewloveland3550
@andrewloveland3550 8 жыл бұрын
A simple elegance in how this firearms form and function come together.
@sithompson74
@sithompson74 8 жыл бұрын
That pistol is incredible. Hard to believe that such a modern style and innovative new mechanism was first used prior to 1900.
@tonigon5767
@tonigon5767 Жыл бұрын
What a really cool design!
@Locahaskatexu
@Locahaskatexu 8 жыл бұрын
Intriguing.... First off, may I say how refreshing it is to find someone on youtube who shares a passion for weapons without the obligatory bravado around it? my compliments for the well reasoned and calm demeanor you have on camera, it really is refreshing. Also thank you for having an interest in old weapons and a willingness to seek them out and be able to show us how they worked. It really is educational. Secondly, it's an intriguing little gun, I do have a few questions though, what does it do soundwise? is the bang very loud for instance? the microphone on cameras doesn't necessarily convey this well. From first glances I'd say this was a gun favoured by assassins and spies, even though I'm not too sure about that. It's mainly due to the size, though I have no idea as to how tall you are. The gun also looks quite delicate.
@henryrodgers7386
@henryrodgers7386 2 жыл бұрын
I was researching pistols for a dieselpunk 1930s story,, and I think I'm in love... The others I've looked at include a Charola y Anitua in 7mm, and a Webley Fosberry (sp?) in 455, but this is an actual service pistol. And a very nice one at that!
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 9 жыл бұрын
That is an extremely gracious action.
@Kevin-jb2pv
@Kevin-jb2pv Жыл бұрын
The thing about that "flaw" with the back piece being a potential failure point for the gun is that it looks like it would be fairly easy to remedy by just beefing up that little rear loop and/ or the cross pin that holds it in. It would only add as much extra length and weight to the gun as it was deemed necessary to be strong enough. There's probably other ways to accomplish the same reinforcement by adding lugs to the frame that could help in catching the bolt, as well, but just beefing up the rear _seems_ to my uneducated eye as being the most straightforward way to do it without adding any additional complexity to the design or manufacturing process.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 4 жыл бұрын
Serial no. 1 original Schwarzlose? Damn Ian, this might be the sleeper video on your channel for THE coolest pistol to which you've had access.
@Mutant1988
@Mutant1988 9 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's about time they bring this design back, though probably with less enormous safety and bolt hold up lever and more bolts to prevent catastrophic slide launching failures. It is a very aesthetically pleasing gun, apart from the odd looking slide grips at the back just jutting out. And to whoever let you borrow the gun and fire it - Thank you.
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 Жыл бұрын
I would love to own one. If a company begins to manufacture them in the future I will definetly buy one as soon as it becomes available. What an awesome design and beautiful execution.
@thatguyfor2adefendtheconst732
@thatguyfor2adefendtheconst732 8 жыл бұрын
wow a beautiful piece especially for its time. one of my favorite gun was not around for 13 more years.
@zacharysnyder2520
@zacharysnyder2520 5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful gun. I wish they were more available
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I love seeing this very clever designs from generations ago. That pinned ring at the back makes me wonder...if most of them ended up in Russia, did they hang around long enough in second-line service for somebody to eventually try loading one with 7.62 Tokarev? That seems very likely to cause the bolt to launch off the back of the pistol into the shooter's face. In fact, if somebody were to make a reproduction, it might be nice to engineer it for 7.62 Tokarev for safety and cross-compatibility.
@surfingmonke8841
@surfingmonke8841 Жыл бұрын
This handgun is one of the beacon of hopes of early handgun design and today in 7.63 mauser with something like that I would happy with paying for it.
@franzkass5639
@franzkass5639 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing mechanism! Ingenious!
@richardkuhn9795
@richardkuhn9795 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool pistol Ian.
@RobertoDonatti
@RobertoDonatti 9 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Kudos!
@fredeagle8766
@fredeagle8766 8 жыл бұрын
if a hand gun can be handsome, this is it. lethal elegance....
@blipblip88
@blipblip88 4 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous pistol!
@kevinlytle6215
@kevinlytle6215 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy one of these! Such a truly leading edge design. It would be nice to have a virtual trial of this vs the two or three contemporary pistols of the time and show each gun as the desinger would then play the role of the inspector and find the reasons why one is better than the other.
@matejpfajfar8039
@matejpfajfar8039 3 жыл бұрын
It's a beauty alright! Very clever design and elegant look. I would gladly have one but they are probably more expensive than a new house. This pistol is way better than a lot of nowadays guns. 6.4-inch barrel length with 7.63 Mauser round makes you dangerous at 100 yards if you know how to shot it properly. Anyway, it is a precious pistol!
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 3 жыл бұрын
That's a fantastic piece.
@xorising
@xorising 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative look at a fascinating piece
@forestcampbell8962
@forestcampbell8962 4 жыл бұрын
Such an elegantly outstanding pistol,even more so due to how early it was created!👍
@privetkillzs
@privetkillzs 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking pistol.
@gambanteinodal1246
@gambanteinodal1246 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive pistol! Good looking too! 👍
@ahall442
@ahall442 4 жыл бұрын
Very advanced features for its time...would be suitable 50m target pistol. I can see in today's manufacturing environment that this would be a easy do & a good seller.. I would say that the model 1900 browning auto which sold over a million units prior to being discontinued in 1912, may have influenced sales...but this 1898 pistol has locking bolt which is not normally seen at this time.. The disconnector is simple too..(prevents full auto).. Brilliant, thanks..
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I fell asleep when you were shooting that little blow forward jewel, only to awaken to my favorite pistol of ALL TIME, GOD HOW I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!
@gilburtfilburt8779
@gilburtfilburt8779 9 жыл бұрын
That is a damn clever design.
@SpawnofHastur
@SpawnofHastur Жыл бұрын
I like watching the ejector just *yeet* the case out.
@xProlesx
@xProlesx 9 жыл бұрын
Good to see these types of videos again. Is there any chance of getting 60 fps or 50fps video quality or is not possible with your current equipment?
@Za7a7aZ
@Za7a7aZ Жыл бұрын
I am always fascinated how the designers made the disassembly puzzle without the use of tools with these guns
@peterjaena
@peterjaena 6 жыл бұрын
the 1 spring.... wow just wow for a gun older than 100 yrs old... just amazing.
@thecatwithatophat4069
@thecatwithatophat4069 9 жыл бұрын
I like this gun, wouldn't mind it if the few minor problems were ironed out but it seems very capable and could be a respectable gun among more modern pistols
@grego15
@grego15 3 жыл бұрын
"Just pull this back ABOUT 15mm" 😆 I love how Ian disassembles guns, he really knows what he's doing and doesn't hesitate to share it with us.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 7 жыл бұрын
re: unlocking/locking. the "doll's head" at the rear not only locates the firing pin and provides the "rails" for the bolt internally, it also acts as the cam for locking/unlocking (in the "neck" of the doll's head). that's why the groove is cut as a cam, and not just a relief shoulder (which would be a far easier, cheaper machining op). i agree Ian, this puppy remade with modern steel would be a REALLY nice firearm. in 630 or 8620/4140 (or even straight 4140), it would have some serious "bank vault like" brawn. it looks like a simple-ish mod to the build would make the doll's head mount a non-issue (thicker rear tang with a dovetail and pin, or even just a mortise and tenon joint as opposed to the rabbet used originally). hell, it actually looks pretty adaptable to "stampings and trunnions" type build-up, or even a polymer "frame" and "gut rail" system of assembly. a bright boy or gal could probably get a cnc setup to crank these out of bar stock pretty damned rapidly, and really cheaply (the cuts all appear VERY simple, especially using "robot craftsmen", and the small parts look fairly adaptable to stamp and dress to fit assembly). honestly, this could be the next "ruger mark 1 .22" utility class plinker, especially with the cost similarity with 9mm cheapo and .22 LR these days
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