VALERIAN & THE CITY OF 1000 PLANETS

VALERIAN & THE CITY OF 1000 PLANETS | Science vs Cinema

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7 жыл бұрын

Astronomer Andy Howell explores some of the science behind VALERIAN in his review and talks to some of the filmmakers at the World Premiere, including writer/director Luc Besson, lead actor Dane DeHaan, and VFX supervisors Joe Letteri and Martin Hill (Weta Digital).

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@matthewcheck128 7 жыл бұрын

Any chance of doing an analysis of the science behind The Expanse?

@carylannataylor 4 жыл бұрын

Especially the space genetics.

@WOTArtyNoobs 4 жыл бұрын

Important fact to remember when watching Valerian - the (French) comics came before Stars Wars and George Lucas incorporated these ideas into Star Wars. So it's not that Valerian is trying to be Star Wars for a new generation. Valerian was the original and Star Wars used it to come up with their story. Star Wars was the copy, not the original.

@puellanivis 7 жыл бұрын

Dude, are you 8 ft tall? Everyone seems so short when you’re interviewing them…

@collbackk 7 жыл бұрын

It's so dense, every frame has so much going on....

@MrrGNB 7 жыл бұрын

am i the only one who is really annoyed by the fact that the alpha station has only travelled 700 million miles. like really that is a miniscule distance, it is literally less than the avg distance between the earth and saturn. and they claim it has grown over hundreds of years, so even if it only left earths orbit it would have travelled at only 356 m/s, right now the iss is orbiting the earth at 7.6km/s so 21 times as fast.

@ReddwarfIV 7 жыл бұрын

+zokr - I think its understandable. The ISS where it is would drop out of orbit within a couple of decades without regular boosting. Moving it further out into the solar system would be fine if you wanted to make it bigger and you had the kind of casual interplanetary travel shown in _City Of A Thousand Planets_. Why _would_ they move it to another star system or let it fly into interstellar space? Or are you saying the script implies its in another star system but the writers don't understand how big space is?

@Reazintful 7 жыл бұрын

"Why would they move it to another star system or let it fly into interstellar space?..." they literally said in the movie thats what they did with the station.

@ReddwarfIV 7 жыл бұрын

+Justin Jacobs - I literally said in my post "Or are you saying the script implies its in another star system but the writers don't understand how big space is?", you just had to click "Read More".

@Reazintful 7 жыл бұрын

i missed the "read more" but its obvious thats what was implied, the narrator talks about it being shot into deep space on its own and the leader of earth bidding it farewell and good luck on its journey like hes never going to hear from it again, yet 700 million miles is a drive down to the gas station in this movie, dont think the script writers understood how short of a distance 700m miles really is in space.

@DarthBiomech 6 жыл бұрын

Well, if one assumes that it is just typical Hollywood "millions vs billions" screw up, then the station would've traveled 7530 AUs. It's still not far enough to be in another solar system, but at least they're definitely in the interstellar space by now.

@lucrolland7489 6 жыл бұрын

The movie Valerian is actually very close to the cartoon of the same name which came in the 60s. I remember reading those and being so impressed. It is actually directly inspired by Metropolis for some elements. But it has inspired all the sci-fi to this day and even the Star Treck motion picture. The movie came after the others but all its concepts come from before.

@DarthBiomech 6 жыл бұрын

I think that the main problem with this, besides human characters, was exactly that it FELT like it was from the 60s. Many plot elements were clearly outdated, the "obvious cannibal natives, only they're aliens so that's not racist" would be perfect example. The film leered to "who cares about common sense if it's pretty?" fantasy stuff too much IMO.

@adrianbean3734 6 жыл бұрын

It would be amazing if you could do a SvC for the show "The Expanse". I know it's not a singular movie but you could do it by seasons or do some highlights.

@icedragonaftermath 7 жыл бұрын

Hey, any chance you could cover some sci-fi movies that aren't currently airing? For example, I'd love it if you could give your take on movies like Moon (2009), Sunshine(2007), Primer (2004), etc.? They're some of my favorites.

@dawngrrrl 7 жыл бұрын

The Star Wars parallels make sense - when the original trilogy came out the creator of the Valerian comics was apparently "furious" that SW had several things in common with his comics.

@CrimsonAlchemist 7 жыл бұрын

Its an amazing movie. The main actor's acting is abit weird sometimes, I get why critics hated it. But overall its a great movie. Enjoyed it every second of it. Can't wait for the sequel!!!

@ninjafukwan7 7 жыл бұрын

I wished that you uploaded videos more often.

@HellsRaven4444 5 жыл бұрын

Kinda sad you didn't mention anything about the opening sequence of the movie with the humans slowly expanding the Alpha station and meeting all those alien races over the decades and slowly growing tired from it. I feel like that was one of the best scenes they ever did for the movie.

@zakacat5320 4 жыл бұрын

Your production quality is so high, and your information is factual. Can I be your student?

@SoundBlackRecordings 6 жыл бұрын

I hope you come back soon to make more videos.

@I_dont_think_therefore... 5 жыл бұрын

I think it would be awesome to see and "walk' though a digital version of the crystal planet in virtual reality.

@35mmMovieTrailersScans 5 жыл бұрын

I've been reading and re-reading Valérian comic books since the 70's and I can tell you that the movie was not only made for kids, it also was made for the fans of the series. Your analysis of the movie was lacking this consideration.

@mac2309zzz 4 жыл бұрын

Ok lets correct that then... for kids and fans of the comics, probably worth seeing, for everyone else, it's paper-thin nonsense with a shiny cover

@mikesully110 3 жыл бұрын

yeah lol I don't think this movie was really made to be scientifically accurate. You might as well do a video on the Historical Accuracy of Lord of the Rings

@voon1032 2 жыл бұрын

This specific vid feels like shill content. It's always weird when this dude tries to make a science vs cinema of something that is blatantly fantastical with its scifi.

@davepastern 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Valerian personally. Low in actual science, but high in fiction, and Luc always delivers an amazing film imho.

@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 7 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to watch this on kodi

@Chilledoutredhead 2 жыл бұрын

there is just something about this film, but i really enjoy it. I agree with you on the love stories though. like why..... recently army of thieves had a love arc that just felt weird and forced and omg cringe. it was actually refreshing that shang chi had just a friendship instead of a love arc.

@ReddwarfIV 7 жыл бұрын

The pearl planet could be in a system like Trappist 1, where the planets actually are close enough that you could see them from the surface of one another.

@gillesdeleuze1900 7 жыл бұрын

ReddwarfIV Yes but if that were the case, the planets would have such short orbital periods that you should be able to see them move relatively quickly along the night sky

@ReddwarfIV 7 жыл бұрын

Fair enough then.

@evilcab 7 жыл бұрын

i really want to watch this video, but the movie is not out yet in my country...

@cine-data 7 жыл бұрын

Andy's review is relatively spoiler-free.

@Mojomanultra 7 жыл бұрын

yeah but he underplays some key points.

@stephenju1966 7 жыл бұрын

Wow. You are tall. Or are all the people you interviewed short? :)

@michaelmorrow3679 6 жыл бұрын

Per the novelization, Mul has 12 moons called the twelve wise sisters....

@davepastern 5 жыл бұрын

unless the parent planet is massive (or the moons minuscule), this doesn't make sense...

@CrimsonAlchemist 7 жыл бұрын

Its an amazing movie. The main actor kinda acts weird in some scenes, I get why critics hated it. But overall its a great movie. Enjoyed it every second of it. Can't wait for the sequel!!!

@noneck8166 6 жыл бұрын

The acting is terrible...it is sooooo cringeworthy....and it is sad that no-one picked up on it... It could have been a spectacular movie...plot had a few holes...but visually spectacular and worth multiple views... BUT....i'd rather watch it in another language with subtitles....that main actor is so forced..and the connection between them...' the love'?....just fuck it off....it's like they got their love ideal from Twilight....( where's mah bucket)

@syedahtshamrashdi 6 жыл бұрын

Please do the expanse

@justynadzik8500 6 жыл бұрын

When's the new movie? Please, come back

@johnshmit3013 6 жыл бұрын

"Pushing the boundaries" with two-eyed aliens speaking English using a mouth... give me a break.

@gehinkun 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Andy, did you ever read the comics? AMAZING stuff, really shaped my childhood. This travesty of a movie pales in comparison, and the love story is really great and funny throughout the series. Star Wars and other properties took a lot from Valerian et Laureline. P.S WHY DIDNT THEY CAST CLIVE OWEN AS VALERIAN? He is PERFECT and is even IN THE MOVIE. ugh

@Zerocookiecake 7 жыл бұрын

Your not dead!

@cine-data 7 жыл бұрын

Yep, we're alive! Just busy with our day jobs, until someone pays us to do SVC full-time... -James

@tnlaw2004 6 жыл бұрын

Karnipex his not dead what?

@kizi180 7 жыл бұрын

FiNAlly!

@yashovampreston6916 5 жыл бұрын

Couldnt some planets be landlocked to other larger planets? Similar to the moons relation to the earth.

@chrisbarberbarber8999 6 жыл бұрын

it could look like that,we dont know,100 years ago they thought we would never get to space

@phraggers 5 жыл бұрын

I only wanted to watch it because Cara Delevingne is SMOKIN hot. Not disappointed.

@Chris.Davies 5 жыл бұрын

Science? There was certainly zero chemistry between the two totally forgettable leads!

@unvergebeneid 7 жыл бұрын

Uhm, ok, _why_ is your life so amazing, exactly?

@noneck8166 6 жыл бұрын

lol....what are you getting at?

@voon1032 2 жыл бұрын

"we always try to ground everything" Man running around in a room of blue clothes. . .hollywood people would make good comedians.

@gammelgarten 4 жыл бұрын

The film would have been good if Besson had managed to push back his fixation on the bodies of young women. The film is largely an old men's fantasy. Too bad.

@aleksandarnikolovski8865 4 жыл бұрын

The movie is based on comics, and is done like it

@Rippypoo 3 жыл бұрын

Visually, it’s kind of a feast. Pretty compelling. It does draw you in. But the planets in the sky. Andy’s right about that. And I think the film just tried to be too big and tried to do too much. All the extraneous scenery and characters and furniture kind of muddled the plot. A lot of it was just distracting and frequently interrupted the pace of the story, which is the most important part.

@DungeonBricks 7 жыл бұрын

I did not remember to be subscribed to this channel

@josephnardone1250 5 жыл бұрын

Saw this movie and it was boring. What it was was a re-make of the "Fifth Element" which was a good movie. In fact, elements of that movie were in this movie. There was chemistry between Bruce Willis and Framke J. unlike the childlike interaction between the two leads in this movie. This movie bombed for good reason.

@mangalores-x_x 6 жыл бұрын

the visuals are great, the screenplay on the other hand is a train wreck which is why the characters fail. Their dialogues are terrible. It also has little to do with the comics where the concepts were even crazier (where Valerian and Laurelin are time agents responsible for stuff happening both in space and time and everyone sitting comfortable at home)

@kenhogg858 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the movie very much..... I wish they would make another

@Tomozaurus 7 жыл бұрын

1. I'm glad this channel isn't dead. 2. This movie looks like trash.

@AtlantaTerry 5 жыл бұрын

Never saw "Valerian" and now I'm kinda glad I didn't spend $8 to go see it. Maybe someday on Hulu...

@4plainlimbs 7 жыл бұрын

Are you tall? Or is everyone at WETA a dwarf?

@ScienceVsCinema 7 жыл бұрын

Andy is quite tall, and it makes shooting red carpets very challenging. ;) -James

@rakeshswami11 4 жыл бұрын

Rihanna nailed it

@memonk11 5 жыл бұрын

The bad acting is what ultimately ruined this movie.

@gaylecheung3087 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no not another avatar - Birthday if I’m wrong, isn’t photosynthesis that Permanent colour of the planet like the ocean blue or turquoise understand is light brown blah blah blah and I don’t know what type of atmosphere that hat looks like they got gravel etc. etc. and this is like throwing in like years whatever I’m not watching this damn movie house and I can’t even stand Star Wars, I’m a Trekie

@voon1032 2 жыл бұрын

Why do you even do science vs cinema videos for films like this? It almost feels like shill content considering you are able to interview the producers n shit. Honestly kind of weird that you don't point out how all these different aliens being hyper-specialized to do only certain things is stupid.

@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын

It's visually BRILLIANT which only makes the horrible plot, script and acting all the worse. One could possibly splice it into a decent or even excellent 5 minute short but holy shit what a tiresome childish pointless show even as a kid I would NOT have enjoyed it.

@Starman141 6 жыл бұрын

Love is the 5th Dimension, Just like god is real!

@tomf3150 6 жыл бұрын

How this kid can be Valérian ? Valérian is at least 1.80m tall. Besson ruined it imho.

@milesc.anthony2811 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't this movie suck and bomb?

@GioAtero 4 жыл бұрын

The flick is disposable. The only scene that evokes merits is the ISS intro, even though I do not buy the NASA fairy tales. Nothing else is worth watching, due to the fact that it is LGBT propaganda and political correction. 5/10 [BAD FLICK] I do not recommend it!

@djoneforever 4 жыл бұрын

The 2 main characters are just TERRIBLE

@Rippypoo 3 жыл бұрын

If you mean the two actors playing the leads, then I agree 💯. The two actors had NO chemistry. I’ve seen Dane DeHaan be very good in a couple of things and excellent in a couple of other things. But in this… ZERO CHARISMA, as Elliot from ET would say. DeHaan was OK as kind of a romantic lead to Daniel Radcliffe in Kill Your Darlings, but as straight romantic action adventure guy, I just didn’t believe it. He’s got a good voice. Distinct. I’m sure he’s done voice work, but visually, just not attractive enough.