Scorpion vs Sharpshooter - Sting vs Bret Hart in WCW

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When Bret Hart was in the WWF during the mid 90s and when Sting was on the opposing WCW side, many fans wanted to see who would win in a match. Not only did Hart and Sting have the same finishing move, but they were also once considered the very best "good guys" the WWF and WCW had during the 90s. Wrestling fans adored Bret Hart and Sting, and while people discussed dream matches like Undertaker vs Sting and Goldberg vs Steve Ausitn, many fans wanted to know who would win between the Hitman and the Stinger.
The history of WWF can't be discussed without mentioning Bret Hart, and the history of WCW can't be mentioned without Sting. At one point, it felt like both men wouldn't budge from their respective companies. But, the possibility of a Hart vs Sting match became a reality when Bret left the WWF together with other members of the Hart Foundation. Bret showed up in World Championship Wrestling as a babyface, and he helped Sting secure the WCW championship at Starrcade 1997. As 1998 went on though, both Bret and Sting's roles within WCW would drastically change. Sting would join the nWo Wolfpac, and Bret would align himself with nWo Hollywood. When Sting faced Bret at Halloween Havoc 98, Bret was now the heel while Sting remained a babyface. All subsequent meetings between Hart and Sting would see the roles again getting reversed, Sting worked as the "bad guy" while Hart was now portrayed as the "good guy".
This video looks at Bret and Sting's matches in WCW. Topics and matches covered include:
00:00 - WWF vs WCW dream matches
05:13 - The buildup towards Bret and Sting's first match
11:21 - Sting and Bret prepare for their Halloween Havoc match
13:56 - Hart vs Sting at Halloween Havoc 98
18:31 - Bret vs Sting in 1999
- Much More

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@razorsedge3107 3 жыл бұрын

Either one was slapped onto my siblings in the 90’s

@ecgf 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@rekmadethebeat 3 жыл бұрын

HELL YEAH and the figure four

@RichSmithson 3 жыл бұрын

My friends older brother sat down hard on me when he put me in a Boston crab. Never let anyone put me in one of those holds again. Felt like my back was on the verge of snapping.

@lucaspless8599 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichSmithson I always loved how the announcers claimed these holds hurt the legs. I have three brothers (two older and one younger) and we practiced every hold imaginable on each other. The crab and death lock destroy the back fiercely . I had a friend that thought it was all b.s. I told him if he could last 10 seconds in my scorpion death lock I'd give him 20 bucks (Late 90's and I was 15ish). I took it easy on him for about 5 seconds. He wheezed in pain, but wouldn't give. He even gloated that it didn't really hurt. Then I raised that scorpion tail and dropped it in nice and deep. He cried like a little beech and never sniffed that 10 seconds. I laughed hard just typing that. Good memories. And yeah, Bret's was better.

@Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 жыл бұрын

I've been in the Boston Crab and handed it out on three occasions. I've personally seen the Scorpion Death Lock given to a guy out of genuine anger by a another guy. Anyone who thinks these two holds are B.S. has no idea what he's talking about. If applied properly, they are incredibly effective submission holds.

@yeomsta 3 жыл бұрын

Your channel has went from being something I watch on the fringe to one that I actively look for new videos for. Your stuff is so good. Thanks!

@wrightyy 3 жыл бұрын

Get them in whilst you can! There won't be many highlights of the current product in 20 years time!!!

@kajenbop 3 жыл бұрын

Enter AEW!

@Sunshine215clfh 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus saves 🙂

@dr.loomis4221 3 жыл бұрын

@@kajenbop nah...AEW is WCW all over again

@soysaucefool 2 жыл бұрын

@@wrightyy every generation thinks that, what matters to you. Isn't the same as what stuff means to the younger fans

@thewaker34 3 жыл бұрын

Wrestling was so great in the 90's

@BC-bf2eq 3 жыл бұрын

Yah and today its a fuckin joke.

@glamgal7106 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, wrestling was the BOMB in the 1990s. Because I lived in a NYC suburb(still do), it was a RITUAL for my friends and I to go to Madison Square Garden, Nassau Coliseum and the Meadowlands for "house shows." The wrestlers gave the fans "that little something extra" that made them WANT to return--they made efforts to acknowledge them. Bret said that "you never forget your fans. They are the ones who put food on your table and pay your bills." He always had/has a warm smile when he saw/sees me.

@glamgal7106 3 жыл бұрын

@@BC-bf2eq I agree with you that wrestling has become a joke--that was even before the pandemic. What's not a joke is that wrestlers have tested positive for COVID and whoever does temp checks only does it weekly, not more often than that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong--wrestling is a CONTACT sport. If distancing is needed to avoid getting sick, at the very least there should be more temp checks. Another joke is the "wellness policy" amid all this happening.

@zemox2534 3 жыл бұрын

@@glamgal7106 Not all wrestling is a joke. If you were all mire open minded you would see there are still plenty of good wrestling promotions in the world right now. ROH, MLW, PROGRESS, WXW, OTT WRESTLING, PRO WRESTLING NOAH, STARDOM, DRAGON GATE AND AJPW.

@PreacherTHC 3 жыл бұрын

The 90's were so great in wrestling!😉🤪

@WarhawkBeyond2040 3 жыл бұрын

Two of the biggest and most respected wrestling legends of the 90s, it doesn't get any better than Bret Hart and Sting

@Marc_Masters 3 жыл бұрын

This duel should have lit the wrestling world on fire, Im not sure why it didnt smash!

@antology7 3 жыл бұрын

@@Marc_Masters WCW didn't make it a ppv main event. Sting should have beaten Hogan clean at Starrcade, then Bret should have challenged him for the belt.

@wrestlingtapes2036 3 жыл бұрын

You’re right brother

@antology7 3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan McCully This match has more passion to it (in my opinion): www.dailymotion.com/video/x2k1ob2 Sting is heel at the time. This is after Sting had several months break after Halloween Havoc.

@alvintiangco351 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Gorgutsforcongress 3 жыл бұрын

I used to love pitting them against each other in wcw revenge in the N64....oh those were the days.

@richg1677 3 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic game that was 🙌🏻

@edge803 3 жыл бұрын

I had that game . Good old days but you could only have 4 people in the ring at the same .

@cHrIs84. 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine wcw/nWo revenge would get an updated remastered version 🤩 or wwf no mercy

@sonicthehedgehog5360 3 жыл бұрын

@@richg1677 that game was legendary I hella played it as a kid

@CraigKostelecky 3 жыл бұрын

@@cHrIs84. There are some awesome hacks out there for N64 emulators on PC.

@EVGriffinJr 3 жыл бұрын

Sting, in his early days, could make the scorpion look painful. As the years went on, it just looked weaker. Bret Hart, on the other hand, his version always looks painful! Even the times he put it on post the stroke he suffered!

@CraigKostelecky 3 жыл бұрын

The move on the post was much more of a figure-four and I believe that’s what they were calling it too.

@Nolimitss6 3 жыл бұрын

@@CraigKostelecky you've misunderstood him. He wasn't referring to performing the move around a post

@CraigKostelecky 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clarification. After reading it again, I don’t know how I misread it the first time.

@EVGriffinJr 3 жыл бұрын

@@CraigKostelecky I was referring to the years after Bret Harte suffered his stroke in 2002. He will occasionally still put people in the sharpshooter and it still looks more painful than anything Sting did.

@coachmikesfilmroom3111 3 жыл бұрын

@@EVGriffinJr I agree to a point. It depended on who Sting was wrestling. If he was wrestling a younger wrestler later in his career, he'd sink it in deep. If he wrestled an older vet like a flair or hogan and such, he'd not sit out near as much, taking it easier on their damaged bodies.

@animefan9329 3 жыл бұрын

Sting didn't have to apply much pressure when he used the scorpion deathlock. He had the strength and size to make it look painful. I remember Ron garvin using the hold earlier than sting, but to me it was sting that popularized the hold from 1987 to 1991. During this time Bret was a tag team wrestler never used the hold until mid 1991. He did it with the left leg. Look like he was hurt people for real. But sting was my favorite so I was pissed. To me sting's application looks more natural and easy to do. Bret technique is excellent but a little too technical. Sting use to apply it with one hand. That to me look more impressive. The stinger is the greatest of all time.

@michaelbobic7135 Ай бұрын

You're right, I'd completely forgotten that Ronnie Garvin had used the scorpion.

@jamessteel9016 3 жыл бұрын

Bret Hart v Sting should of been a classic match, but like most things WCW did it sucked

@squarepickle 3 жыл бұрын

Still better than 90% of WWE's content since 2006.

@miaorange 3 жыл бұрын

@Seth Kaplan It's ironic you say that because years later, sting goes to wwe and they don't know how to use him.

@gst013 3 жыл бұрын

Should have, even...

@PS-gr5wh 3 жыл бұрын

Yes like 83 weeks in a row?

@kingoftheswing38 3 жыл бұрын

The sharp shooter is incomparable to any hold. He excecuted it excellently lol

@aidsskrillex5355 3 жыл бұрын

Excellently executed!

@georgemunro319 3 жыл бұрын

One is a great wrestler. The other is a great performer and entertainer

@CraftyVegetarian13 3 жыл бұрын

@@aidsskrillex5355 seems like a Bill and Ted air guitar riff is appropriate after saying this...

@kingoftheswing38 3 жыл бұрын

@@CraftyVegetarian13 Most Definitely lol

@jamescourt5201 3 жыл бұрын

Scorpion deathlock existed long before Bret Hart stole it. He was performing a piledriver than counting 1, 2, all the fingers he had.

@Lionel212001 3 жыл бұрын

I remember Bret's matches vividly as a kid growing up in the 90s. He was my favorite wrestler back then because his matches seemed so real. He added a certain degree of legitimacy to pro wrestling and told a story like no other. In-ring, I think that only Benoit surpassed him (despite how things ended). There will never be another.

@liamschulzrules 3 жыл бұрын

My god Id forgotten how long and luscious Sting's hair used to be.

@NitroNEXT 3 жыл бұрын

The matches weren't great but I get the mentality behind it; gotta protect both players. It's not ideal but atleast WCW didn't bury Bret for being a "WWF guy", the same courtesy wouldn't have been given to Sting if the matches took place in WWF. Bret would have gone over clean every time if Vince had any say in it.

@wrestlingtapes2036 3 жыл бұрын

The matches are underrated

@Thor-Orion 3 жыл бұрын

@@wrestlingtapes2036 Bret’s actual matches from WCW can be pretty great. It’s his booking that blows for the most part.

@baronvg 2 жыл бұрын

I believe it.

@MrBlack-wt5er 10 ай бұрын

They actually slightly did bury Bret Hart and then tried to resurrect him and THEN used him poorly when they got him involved and actually has him completing against real heavyweights on his level rather than a bunch of mid - card wrestlers and he had to cheat half those wins or he would lose some of them and the whole booking thing was just stupid and it was probably (Nash) so I guess Nash can thank himself for contributing to the downfall of the wcw which paid him far more money than wwf

@Makainternational 3 жыл бұрын

Of course it’s Bret, Monsoon didn’t call Bret the excellence of execution for nothing.

@kevinmichael503 3 жыл бұрын

Damn right !

@CornyClaudyMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@at0micwerew0lf 3 жыл бұрын

Brett is t the only wrestler Monsoon called "the excellence of execution".

@CornyClaudyMedia 3 жыл бұрын

@@at0micwerew0lf Indeed. Gorilla came up with the nickname and used it every time he called one of Bret's matches. Monsoon put him over like no one else ever did, yet I have never heard Bret acknowledge that, strangely.

@yoholmes273 3 жыл бұрын

You realize of course, that phrase was one of the many "Gorillaisms" used all the time before Bret even went to WWF. He used the terms such as excellently executed and unstoppable force vs the immoveable object virtually all the time. Certainly before they become famous for what they are known for now.

@dangxdc8348 3 жыл бұрын

HITMAN vs STING could have been much more in depth and tense

@DJDoubleCee 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed seeing both holds but I like Bret Hart’s sharpshooter better.

@Azriel1932 3 жыл бұрын

By far. Sting's application just isn't as convincing to me. Also, to me, it just never matched his character or the rest of his moveset. I guess it makes sense for his feud with Flair but besides that idk, just always seemed weird to me.

@ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052 3 жыл бұрын

What about Shawn Michaels sharpshooter? It's a career ender in the WWF 😁😁😁

@Azriel1932 3 жыл бұрын

@Phenomenal Ace true

@BlueLighteningGojo 3 жыл бұрын

Brets looked like it was more painful.

@ClassicKrusty 3 жыл бұрын

Yea while I love Sting Bret’s sharpshooter looked like he was better at sinching it up, tighter application in other words.

@All_Hail_Chael 3 жыл бұрын

Best wrasslin channel on youtube...easy.

@tracyhandy3236 3 жыл бұрын

Big Sting fan, but he would never look like he was applying pressure with the scorpion most times.

@illkid86 3 жыл бұрын

He would also stand up most times while doing the hold

@ironcrosstrainingltd6482 3 жыл бұрын

It's true Bret really locked it in tight and made it look unbreakable. Sting is my favorite

@Sunshine215clfh 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus saves 🙂

@terrybrown5402 3 жыл бұрын

Because alot of the time he wasn't with guys who had back problems like hogan. He was just protecting the guys he worked with. Watch sting vs flair or rick rude prior to his back injury and youll see sting sitting all the way back.

@BrandonGavin_EDC 3 жыл бұрын

@@terrybrown5402 exactly they apply it how they can to who they work with, they don’t want to hurt them. I just think Bret was so smooth with it he made it look better overall. He could apply it from so many different positions and ways.

@theonewhowokeup9987 3 жыл бұрын

@2:00 So that's where Shawn Michaels taunt came from in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy.

@AestheticDelta Жыл бұрын

During the 90s I was a WCW guy but I was a Bret Hart guy too and whether he or Sting won both were equally significant. From a wrestling and drama standpoint there were a lot more swerves than a novela, maybe more than my younger self could wrap my head around but it was great. That US Title might be the most prestigious belt worn that whole decade

@Airzy_723 3 жыл бұрын

Use to put that move on my little bro till he cried screaming. Who would've thought he'd whoop my ass now if we wrastled!! 😂

@kingragnar8023 3 жыл бұрын

Sting took time off after halloween havoc to get his life together and that's when he became born again christian sting

@silviamarquesfankanal1463 3 жыл бұрын

should have been Surfer Sting again then

@jordandupe398 3 жыл бұрын

PiLL Addiction?

@kingragnar8023 3 жыл бұрын

@@jordandupe398 yes and going through a divorce bc his wife found of he was cheating. He was at complete rock bottom. But he turned it around and is a miracle

@bugsyproductions3140 3 жыл бұрын

Sky daddy sting

@Vaga-Bard 3 жыл бұрын

@@bugsyproductions3140 you idiot, God isn't in the sky. He's inside man. What are you talking about.?

@TheRennDawg 3 жыл бұрын

Both Sting and Bret Hart won their first world titles by beating Ric Flair.

@extremekurt 3 жыл бұрын

Ric Flair is a gentleman

@BrandonGavin_EDC 3 жыл бұрын

@@extremekurt that’s where some wrestlers mess up IMO. Not putting other guys over. If you hold the title a ton like Flair it doesn’t matter how you lose it and they guys you out over end up getting big and it makes everyone’s Career that much better because they are involved with so many legends. Flair was awesome in that regard, not like Hogan who would never put anyone over.

@zlinedavid 3 жыл бұрын

Flair considered it his job to make whoever he was in the ring with look like a goddamn superstar, whether they were or not.

@simeonflake 2 жыл бұрын

@@zlinedavid That would explain why I would ever watch Flair vs. Garvin...

@zlinedavid 2 жыл бұрын

@@simeonflake Although if you put Garvin in today’s WWE/AEW, he’d look like goddamn Ricky Steamboat.

@aeonthemagus7841 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing the old school Sting face paint makes me feel 5 years old again

@kevinmichael503 3 жыл бұрын

True.

@BrandonGavin_EDC 3 жыл бұрын

I know it makes me want to paint my face for Halloween again.

@luckywallace 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy the match between Bret and Sting on Nitro at the end of 1999 - except for the screwy ending (which is just WCW 101 at this stage) it's a fantastic meeting between the two. Bret actually had a pretty good run at the end of 1999 in WCW up until he was injured, including the classic Owen Hart memorial match and finally winning the title at Mayhem.

@T-Bag13 3 жыл бұрын

Two amazingly talented wrestlers.

@adamsifford6228 3 жыл бұрын

Two of my favorite as a teen.

@turdferguson2839 3 жыл бұрын

This video sums up wcw's problems entirely, stories that made no sense, outside interference every match and spoiled wrestlers.

@ferriswheeler08 3 жыл бұрын

17:11 I have no idea why.. but Bret leg dropping the ref at this point caught me by suprise and I still laugh at it to this day.. take that ref lol

@23Revan84 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@kodiebutter6632 2 жыл бұрын

This channel just doesn't miss. Best wrestling channel, and even if your not a fan the production is just top tier content

@SwaggaLeo 3 жыл бұрын

Bret did his unique always with his left leg and more snug looking.

@burntvirtue 3 жыл бұрын

That's right. If it's not the left leg, it's not a Sharpshooter.

@Coyote-wm5op 3 жыл бұрын

It always looks better and tighter if you’re short

@gollick 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer sting overall, but his scorpion was often sloppy

@Bright_Ghost-308 3 жыл бұрын

But the name scorpion death lock suit sting better because the opponent look like a shape of a scorpion.

@heinrichthomas7008 3 жыл бұрын

and Owen for an Example with the right leg ...

@burntvirtue 3 жыл бұрын

This was my favorite era of WCW, and my 2 all-time faves. This is a fantastic video capturing all of my thoughts perfectly. Great job, as always!

@Gotti17 3 жыл бұрын

WCW wasted the talent of Bret Hart ...

@PlatinumRoseLady 3 жыл бұрын

You said it.

@andrewmoore7927 3 жыл бұрын

Due to Hogan's massive ego and his 100% creative control

@upgrayedd3129 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmoore7927 "that's not gonna work for me brother"

@andrewmoore7927 3 жыл бұрын

@@upgrayedd3129 Here's the outcome of the match that will make sense to me brother

@Gotti17 3 жыл бұрын

So true Hogan didn't put him over in 93. As if he was gonna, Once Bret got to WCW.

@arpegio88 3 жыл бұрын

I tend to favor Bret's Sharp shooter over Stings deathlock version because he makes it look more 'snug' by leaning back on it. Bret also grabs his opponents knee pad or the side of their tights for leverage. Sting tends to stoop forward while performing the hold and it doesn't appear to be hooked in as tight.

@kennchooch9744 3 жыл бұрын

Damnit, don't know why..... but this is one of my favorite channels. I always learn a little something. Thanks for making sports entertainment so entertaining 😊

@jordiny3756 3 жыл бұрын

You should be a guest reader on Botchamania! Regardless keep up the great vids, so happy to see where this channel has gone. This feud was dopd

@ordohereticus3427 3 жыл бұрын

Right on the mark. These two had a far more intricate parallel than the much more cosmetic aspects of Sting and Taker. The problem was always about terrible WCW booking as this could’ve produced a legendary rivalry as well as ally character dynamics (when both would be face, as was the case in 1999) over the course of their respect careers. Real wasted potential.

@jdthegreatone2757 Жыл бұрын

Ok offically subscribed for all videos i just can't afford to miss a single video!

@pdill900 3 жыл бұрын

Was just binging the few videos on your channel that I havent watched and I see this. Amazing work man, best wrestling channel on YT!

@nathanwagner9895 3 жыл бұрын

sting and bret hart in their prime when they were babyfaces, were beyond just ''clean cut'' they were the definition of WHITE MEAT BABY FACE lol

@enmija 3 жыл бұрын

Bret and Sting in 1992-93 were almost invincible.. both basically had less than 5 loses at that time, and those loses weren't clean. The only "clean" loses they had were Bret to the British Bulldog and Sting maybe to Vader

@aaronlusanko6356 3 жыл бұрын

@@enmija *losses.

@wrestlingtapes2036 3 жыл бұрын

Goats

@DarrylGetGnarCosta 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos bud ..keep it up brother

@Azriel1932 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing the notifications for your videos pop up on my phone always puts a smile on my face.

@randyv.2880 3 жыл бұрын

Love watching this content! Seem to learn something new in some videos too! Wrestling Bios, they can take away some wrestling, but they'll never take away OUR FREEDOM!! (Couldn't resist that one lol)

@thekurgan1580 3 жыл бұрын

Love watching your content man 🤘

@WrestlingBios 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it!

@stevep4574 3 жыл бұрын

Sting used it first, sorry Bret.

@GenosGlory 3 жыл бұрын

Sting didn’t create the move. He took it from Japan Wrestling

@stevep4574 3 жыл бұрын

@@GenosGlory I meant b4 Hart used it.

@GenosGlory 3 жыл бұрын

@@stevep4574 Yes he did use it before Bret definetly. Valid point and both did a great job.

@bjrollick5262 3 жыл бұрын

Also once Brett got to WCW Sting wasn’t using the Scorpian to much anymore. He would use it from time to time but he was mostly using the Death Drop

@Smokey1419 3 жыл бұрын

Ill always remember Starrcade 97 when Sting had Hogan in the Deathlock and he pointed to Bret before he sat down, one of the coolest moments to me as a kid (regardless of the botched finish)

@RKO1988 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you did something with this feud it was awesome

@GutturalReef 3 жыл бұрын

As far as the Sharpshooter vs. the Scorpion Death Lock: Aesthetically, Bret's looks better; Sting's (and many others who try the Sharpshooter) just looks sloppy!

@Kindaserious365 3 жыл бұрын

The rock has the worse. Sharpshooter of all time 😂

@michaelkeller5927 3 жыл бұрын

The Rocks is the shartshooter

@Coyote-wm5op 3 жыл бұрын

If you’re shorter it looks better

@illkid86 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkeller5927 sharpshitter

@Haplo699g 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kindaserious365 The Rock's version is rough AF.

@JamesMMcCann 3 жыл бұрын

'It's Bret Hart by the way.' That made me chuckle that you said it, and I agree whole heartedly. Bret's is still the best version of that move.

@kiprandom7208 3 жыл бұрын

I still prefer the Scorpion death lock. It just sounds more cool

@brettrossi034 3 жыл бұрын

I'll be completely honest, I was always a WWF kid in the 90s. It was the only wrestling I knew. I never knew when I was a kid that WCW was a thing I was so young. Your channel though is fantastic with quality and are helping me learn more about WCW and their landscape. Thank you!

@jamesbounds 3 жыл бұрын

Would have been cool to see Sting and Bret Hart be a tag team for a little while and win the tag belts.

@Sanguivore 2 жыл бұрын

Aww, man. That would've been neat as heck!

@therattlesnake1614 3 жыл бұрын

Another great wrestling Bio 👍

@WrestleChop 3 жыл бұрын

Thay last line gave me a chuckle. Your delivery and timing is excellent.

@ZeRoCooL-ht8rf 2 жыл бұрын

I could watch these videos all day, everyday, keep up the great work

@McSorleyFan33 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this video and other wcw related videos always reminds me how the fast the NWO went from being the most amazing revolutionary thing in wrestling to the most overrated and overexposed thing in wrestling

@smarkymark5591 3 жыл бұрын

These types of videos are on point btw 👍🏻 10/10 🔥

@JADIP-hl8yd 3 жыл бұрын

Love your work! I really want to see you do a story on the intercontinental championship. Henning, hall, savage, honky tonk.... list is ENDLESS.

@fcove5453 3 жыл бұрын

Love your work bro

@mikebrady86 3 жыл бұрын

Wolfpac sting looks like the devil

@WhiteOutEntertainment781 3 жыл бұрын

especially with the black goatee, I was thinking the same thing haha

@njk9091 3 жыл бұрын

his coolest look even with the goatee

@kennywright1021 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this type of video. Thanks!!!

@rogueprince1341 3 жыл бұрын

I've always thought SCSA vs DDP would have been good. Both cutter type finishers that can come out of nowhere both highly over with the fans. Both world champions.

@curiositykilledthecat5118 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the stunner wins easily there. Far more influential performed and the physical move was sold with much more impact. The diamond cutter would be a better comparison to the rko

@Azriel1932 3 жыл бұрын

@@curiositykilledthecat5118 and the RKO kinda wins the whole "outta nowhere!!" thing, at least to me

@floyd2386 3 жыл бұрын

@@Azriel1932 DDP kind of played up the whole "out of nowhere" thing too, but Johnny Ace was doing it way before either of them.

@Azriel1932 3 жыл бұрын

@@floyd2386 100% agree. I'm just saying that Randy Orton took it and ran with it. There's been some cool RKOs over the years. And I always loved his whole pounding the mat set up too.

@floyd2386 3 жыл бұрын

@@Azriel1932 My personal gripe with the RKO though is it looks almost too smooth and not as devastating. Watch some of Johnny Ace's Acecrushers from back in the day, absolutely deadly looking.

@jamiemckell34 3 жыл бұрын

So good to see this amount of Wolfpac content - I had no idea!

@ryanburrell4999 3 жыл бұрын

Solid video as always man! Keep up the great work!!

@RHM-up5hn 3 жыл бұрын

My two favorite wrestlers of all time. I watched all of these matches and the endings were so predictable. Who was going to interfere? WCW really dropped the ball here. A shame really. I really liked the backstage fight they had. I guess that is my favorite moment. Thanks for making a video on this.

@richardthepastamancer6619 3 жыл бұрын

there was also booker-t vs the rock wich both used the rock bottom/book end

@kevinpayton2664 3 жыл бұрын

The Rock Bottom is hands down better than the Book End.

@richardthepastamancer6619 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpayton2664 i agree, but only the wwe one, every wrestler took it very weirdly, probably to make it differ from the rock bottom. In WCW and TNA looked better without the weird back bump.

@kevinpayton2664 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardthepastamancer6619 I didn't watch TNA when Booker T was there. Did he do it differently there than in WCW?

@richardthepastamancer6619 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpayton2664 He did it the same way but the guy taking it wouldn't go feet all the way up and just take a normal back bump wich, in my opinion, makes it look a lot better and not like a weird kneeling choke slam like it did in wwe.

@slashandbones13 3 жыл бұрын

The Rock had much more dynamic energy to it.

@robertkugler3340 Жыл бұрын

bravo bro great video

@josevanderlinde2404 3 жыл бұрын

Did u notice that they use different leg to start their finishing move? ... Still I like the sharpshooter more. Its more ellegant.

@razieltalos 3 жыл бұрын

Bret's looks better, looks more like it hurts and his technical ability is far superior to Sting which helps sell it

@Forgemno 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a Montreal Mark lol

@darkmarv8045 3 жыл бұрын

Bret maybe was maybe more technical than Sting, but Sting was more charismatic.

@uke5289 3 жыл бұрын

At that time Bret should have still been applying that SHARPSHOOTER to austin and co in the then WWF attitude era. Still sits funny with me seeing him in the WCW

@Smokey1419 3 жыл бұрын

I liked Bret in WCW, but i feel like Owen would've fit more with WCW

@lukebaer3099 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate all your videos as I am laying here on my couch with covid and quarantined for the next 11 days. Thank God I am not too sick but my prayers for anyone that is not as lucky. Cheers brother!

@chihollywood9379 3 жыл бұрын

Get better bro

@TheAaronetic 3 жыл бұрын

"It's Bret Hart, by the way." - Bios Pipe Bomb

@Thor-Orion 3 жыл бұрын

Bret Hart is the best ever, I don’t know why that’s so controversial. His matches tell the best stories.

@DigitalBath742 3 жыл бұрын

Move vs move dream matches that never happened: Steve Austin vs Disco Inferno.

@E_l_l_i_e 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@floyd2386 3 жыл бұрын

That would've been a Chart Buster. May have even been Stone Cold's Last Dance.

@FighterMindset2024 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't hogan's friend the wannabe dog the bounty hunter also used that finisher?

@jamesthompson3023 3 жыл бұрын

oh come on bio put my fav baby face like that good video happy new year

@Tain950 3 жыл бұрын

I saw all these matches back when I was a kid. I’m extremely impressed how you remember everything that happened.

@lazarorodriguez5161 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You 🙏 WrestlingBios

@CornyClaudyMedia 3 жыл бұрын

What kept Bret and Sting from having the 5-star "dream match" they should have had are the same factors that prevented countless WCW matches and angles from being great and/or making a lick of sense: clueless booking, incompetent match/feud build-ups, the nWo, unclean/screw-job/run-in/"Dusty" finishes, and egomaniacs "playing politics" backstage.

@rigoventura3334 3 жыл бұрын

Sir, I like your vídeos because you are very specific with the details and professional.

@davidringle7 3 жыл бұрын

See you had to throw it in at the end lol. Its sting by the way 😂 Great video 👍

@MrElvis161 3 жыл бұрын

Sting vs HBK something I wanted see too

@deshawndodd7883 3 жыл бұрын

I WANTED TO SEE DDP VS. THE ROCK

@gambit3950 3 жыл бұрын

Bret, sting, Kurt angle are my all time faves. Thank you so much for doing this video. I loved it!

@ghostlyjudge 2 жыл бұрын

it was just them being to me XD great video

@TheAdmac11 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty confident in saying that this is the best wrestling youtube channel on the planet!!! 🔥🪐🌍

@fitness65 3 жыл бұрын

The matches these two had were good but the story leading to their first match was confusing as hell. All wcw could've did was create a story of who had the better finisher. With none of the bs added to it it led to confusing heel turns by Bret and just weird stuff pretty much sums up the beginning of beets first run in wcw

@itsyourenotyour9101 3 жыл бұрын

The beets there was, the beets there is, and the beets there ever will be. Beets Hart.

@bryguysays2948 3 жыл бұрын

Beets, Bears, Battlestar Galactica!

@WinstonWolfe21 Жыл бұрын

“It’s Bret Hart btw” 😂 Great episode like usual!

@PreacherTHC 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video about Harvey whippleman not a lot of people talk about him but he did have a considerable contribution to the wrestling organization and I have very much would like to see a wrestling bio on him if possible love your work by the way

@nickrivera3500 3 жыл бұрын

Yoo I’m so happy to see this on here.

@JLvatron 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I never understood fans claiming that WCW didn’t use Bret properly. While he was a top star in WWF, WCW was a much bigger pool; plus he was not in the same league as Hollywood and the nWo. He was given a lot of glory in WCW by having the nWo welcome him to the company, being rivals with Sting, being involved in key nWo matters, plus winning the WCW belt himself. I found his WCW adventure to be great.

@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын

I have added a card to this video in my video which is going live tomorrow, featuring WCW/nWo Revenge on the N64, as I feature Bret Hart vs Sting in the video. Keep up the great work, definitely a fan!

@LivinhItUp 3 жыл бұрын

Always liked how it was always a struggle for Bret to lock in the Sharpshooter but when it was time to end the match and really lock it in, he wasted no time and made it look good from start to finish. In the end, legacy wise, the common wrestling fan will call it the Sharpshooter over the SDL. And I don't think it was a coincidence Sting opted to go with Death Drop DDT as his finisher later in his career to make it his own.

@dadman9799 3 жыл бұрын

Vivid memories of this at 8 years old. I was even Wolfpack sting for Halloween. When he got injured at Havoc it wrecked me for a while....

@pierredorsey7983 3 жыл бұрын

Thats Crazy I was crow sting for Halloween... around 8 or 9 .

@Gazzleto 3 жыл бұрын

I remember davey boy Smith using it. in a singles match against the anvil during the 80s. Back when the hearts wore blue

@richardboss2892 3 жыл бұрын

Sharpshooter is way better than Scorpion. Bret, and especially Owen, made it look so real. Sting, a favorite of mine, never sat back when he applied it, making it look more like a comfy back stretch. Sharpshooter for sure.

@unclecreed2986 3 жыл бұрын

At the twenty second mark you see Bret applying it wrong I vote for Sting.

@richardboss2892 3 жыл бұрын

@@unclecreed2986 Owen did it perfectly every time. Sting never leans back with it, which makes it look dumb. Opinions vary, though.

@jakepearl2712 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL ❤️💙

@TheFlamingPike 3 жыл бұрын

I remember, the day it was announced Bret Hart was coming to WCW, all I thought was that he and Sting would have a kickass feud because of the finisher move they both shared. Wasn't quite what was expected, however, much like the rest of Bret Hart's short-lived stint in WCW. :/ I don't remember if it was Bret himself who said it or if it was someone else from that era, but someone once said that "WCW had no idea what to do with Bret Hart". I think that quote sums up the whole situation pretty well. In my opinion, Bret added two things that made his sharpshooter stand out over the years: he executed it lower which made it look more painful and he would often hold it for a long period of time back during those years, which made it look more like torture than a pro wrestling submission move. As a matter of fact, I think the way Bret executed the sharpshooter on Stone Cold Steve Austin during their now famous match is one of the reasons why Austin became a fan favorite, because it looked damn painful and Austin just wouldn't give up. Sting however had the best turnbuckle splash ever. He usually didn't call for it beforehand and yet you could feel when he was about to do it.

@fatcat8033 3 жыл бұрын

Nash with the backwards bandana and open check shirt trying to look all “ street “ 🤔😂

@zlinedavid 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the late ‘90s

@arh15101986 3 жыл бұрын

I actually saw Sting vs Bret at a WCW house show in January of 1999. Sting worked as a baby face with his black and white look while Bret was heel. Sting won with a Scorpion Death Drop for a clean pin.