SCOTRAIL, 'push/ pull' set RETURNS.!!!! 47712 'Lady Diana Spencer' ,Chester, 6th February 2023

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Phil Clarke

Phil Clarke

Жыл бұрын

Ahead of its inaugural railtour later this month, the new addition to LSG's fleet, the ScotRail push /pull set, is out on it's first test run.
Powered by the Crewe Diesel Preservatio Groups, class 47, 47712 Lady Diana Spencer with DBSO 9707 on the other end.
Seen at Chester with 2 runs from Crewe, this afternoon.
6th February 2023

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@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love it 👍🏻 Happy days train spotting real trains are back even if only for rail tours lol 😆 What a lovely job at LSL have done restoring this set 👏🏻
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks. They certainly are. 😀👍
@GDGRailway47712
@GDGRailway47712 Жыл бұрын
Crewe Diesel Preservation Group own and did the resto of 47712, LSL lease it off them.
@StrawberryStationMusic
@StrawberryStationMusic Жыл бұрын
Oh that is BEAUTIFUL! Never thought we'd see the likes again!
@callumthornelow2936
@callumthornelow2936 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Phil. LSL are the gift that keeps on giving. 😃
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Callum. What will be thier next recreation?😀👍
@curlew1000
@curlew1000 Жыл бұрын
How nice to see quality rolling stock.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! 👍
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 Жыл бұрын
I saw 47712 at Crewe on the way home from the Battle of Nantwich last month. I guess Crewe really is a fine place for sick engines!
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Жыл бұрын
It’s the first since the 90s when the 47 and the coaches with scotrail livery working the shuttle to and from Aberdeen to Glasgow
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Жыл бұрын
not quite there yet only crewe to chester.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Жыл бұрын
@@damiendye6623 well back in the 90s they did
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 Жыл бұрын
@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Mostly 80s, push-pull finished in Scotland on Edinburgh-Glasgow & Glasgow-Aberdeen in April 1990, initially replaced by 156s.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Long while ago?
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Жыл бұрын
@@philclarke3203 yeah
@mikeatpudhamjunction2323
@mikeatpudhamjunction2323 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, and you. 😀👍
@staffordian
@staffordian Жыл бұрын
Interesting footage. Those guys at LSL certainly know how to wield a paintbrush!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. They certainly do 👍😀
@davidowen6977
@davidowen6977 Жыл бұрын
Great sights and sounds from Chester 🌟 Handsome Set 👌
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David 👍
@rogersmith749
@rogersmith749 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@2010ditta
@2010ditta Жыл бұрын
Amazing what they can do these days. Looks great.Thanks Phil.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. Thanks Tim 👍
@Tsurnari
@Tsurnari Жыл бұрын
I miss seeing those sets on the Glasgow - Edinburgh run. Sheer bliss listening to reverberations of 47s (& 37s) powering up the tunnel incline away from Queen Street station. 2 things I noticed from this video, 1) A 47 doesn't look quite right when missing its 3 piece mini snowplough. 2) I'm sure the 'cowcatcher' on the DBSO used to sit lower, although I could be wrong.
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 Жыл бұрын
None of the 47/7s carried snowploughs, so 47712 is prototypically correct.
@Tsurnari
@Tsurnari Жыл бұрын
@@hexagon7895 I'll need to dig out my old photos and have a look, I'd swear that some of them did carry the snowplough, although I might be remembering Scotrail red.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! But what great memories! 👍😀
@hexagon7895
@hexagon7895 Жыл бұрын
@Tsurnari Scottish-based 47/4s, including unique ScotRail Blue Stripe liveried 47461 Charles Rennie Mackintosh did carry ploughs; often contravening the rule book by retaining the centre plough in summer...
@ianmcgee9945
@ianmcgee9945 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see this. I'm from Canada but as a teenager I rode on the push-pull several times during the early 80's on family visits to Scotland. They seemed much more comfortable than some of the newer trains I've been on recently... I saw 47 712 at Haymarket shed several times but never managed to ride behind her.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Great memories. Many new trains here are not designed for comfort 👍
@dieseldave3879
@dieseldave3879 Жыл бұрын
Great to see Lady Di in action. 🚂👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Definitely 👍😀
@montystelevision3238
@montystelevision3238 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid we got a train like this to Edinburgh and it stopped at Falkirk.
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492 Жыл бұрын
awesome vid Phil, Wow that bought back some happy memories from the 70s /80s at Edinburgh whatching them coming & going all day long excellent many thanks for that Phil loved it stay safe a t b Syd 👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks syd, and you too 👍😀
@darrenhillman8396
@darrenhillman8396 Жыл бұрын
Nice! When a loco and stock livery just looks “right”. Well done LSL!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Thanks Darren 👍
@justinobrien3593
@justinobrien3593 Жыл бұрын
Nice Scotrail liveried duff and stock plus driving car/dvt you cannot mistake the sound of that sulzer engine! Nice video 🤩🥰😍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin 👍😀
@iainclark5964
@iainclark5964 Жыл бұрын
Ah so many memories. I loved the Scotrail push pull sets, used them fro Glasgow to Edinburgh before the introduction of the class 156 and then 158s.
@andrewganley9016
@andrewganley9016 Жыл бұрын
One of the best every liverys for a loco/coaching stock kudos to LSL
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
I agree! 👍
@grahamchadwick5242
@grahamchadwick5242 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing them back in the day
@johnross9074
@johnross9074 Жыл бұрын
Looks a lot smarter than the Inter7city units that ScotRail have at the moment.
@stephenbrass1808
@stephenbrass1808 Жыл бұрын
Another great catch Phil, great looking livery, Steve . 👍🎥
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. I'm sure you'll see it, when it comes your way?👍
@calebmumby5803
@calebmumby5803 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely enjoyed every minute of this Phil A proper working and what an amazing LSL had done to this set
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks, and indeed they have 😀👍
@davidtomlinson907
@davidtomlinson907 Жыл бұрын
Looking great.... My friend and I travelled to Edinburgh from Lincoln in the early 80s to bash the 47/7 for a day...Great memories
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks 👍
@jamesbradshaw4675
@jamesbradshaw4675 Жыл бұрын
Superb
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@simonlumsden6045
@simonlumsden6045 Жыл бұрын
Waverley to Queen Street every 30 minutes. Fantastic.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Great service
@kenizzard4623
@kenizzard4623 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Ken 👍
@barriejowett2412
@barriejowett2412 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video 👍👍👍👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Barrie 👍😀
@robertbate5790
@robertbate5790 Жыл бұрын
Great catch!! That is surely going to be a crowd puller. You will need to find some really obscure spots to film. Fantastic restoration job.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. There will be some crowded platforms in Scotland 👍😀
@russb2286
@russb2286 Жыл бұрын
It looks fantastic
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Indeed 👍😀
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217 Жыл бұрын
excellent shots 👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Barry 👍
@mjradar
@mjradar Жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see the return of this train , I remember when I travelled to Edinburgh to spot the 47/7s
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Certainly is. Great memories! 👍
@richardswiderski4985
@richardswiderski4985 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a great addition by L.S.L. looks very nice.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick 👍
@MatthewRailways50033
@MatthewRailways50033 Жыл бұрын
Nice class 47 👍👍👍👍😎
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is! 👍😀
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@ianjones4116
@ianjones4116 Жыл бұрын
Very nice indeed. Lsl have done a fine job there . 👍👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Certainly have 😀👍
@ricjuk
@ricjuk Жыл бұрын
Easily the most interesting formation to run in regular service in 'modern' times on the UK network in my opinion. Imagine being able to commute in a MK3 coach twice a day - you could only wish for that level of comfort these days! Not sure how that's progress but oh well....
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Comfort in today's modern trains is certainly not progress!
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. With a spot of make-up these old girls can still look good.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, they can and do 👍😀
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith 👍
@antman09ful1
@antman09ful1 Жыл бұрын
Another test run Phil, but its good to see.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Certainly is Mike. Plenty test runs round here 😀
@TrainLoverHimu
@TrainLoverHimu Жыл бұрын
Amazing ❤🚂❤
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
It is! Thanks 👍😀
@arthurgrowler5749
@arthurgrowler5749 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Phil. Looked absolutely stunning. Couldn’t make the station today was all abit of a rush as had other commitments. Made it to Christleton to get the second run. Shame we could of met eachother otherwise !!!!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Arthur. I was expecting to see you there, but at least you saw it. Hopefully see you soon 👍😀
@tattoo1084
@tattoo1084 Жыл бұрын
Looking smart in that livery.👌
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
I think so too David 👍😀
@craigsibley8161
@craigsibley8161 Жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍👍👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig 👍😀
@machosker
@machosker Жыл бұрын
Love seeing these, remember then going in and out of Waverley station doing the Edinburgh/Glasgow run.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great memories
@steveluckhurst2350
@steveluckhurst2350 Жыл бұрын
They never looked like this! Apart from when they were new of course.
@mrportfolio9119
@mrportfolio9119 Жыл бұрын
Spoooon!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Yeeees 👍
@ashleyjiscool
@ashleyjiscool Жыл бұрын
Wow ScotRails new livery looking great
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Yes, WOW! 👍
@arthurmatthews9321
@arthurmatthews9321 Жыл бұрын
Big respect to locomotive services at Crewe for recreating this set. It looks stunning. I didn’t know that 47712 still had its push pull equipment fitted. It was state of the art technology at the time, I know modern locomotives like the 67s and 68s can operate push pull out of the box , but to get an old 47 to do it took some work. I noticed that 712 has been fitted with UIC sockets on each end, they are more reliable than the RCH cables that were used originally with the DBSO.
@kmbismark3538
@kmbismark3538 Жыл бұрын
It does not have the old FDM fitted. Uses Blue star. Coaches are not even ex-scotrail ones.
@dgattenb
@dgattenb Жыл бұрын
i was on 710 .... from edin to glasgow then to aberdeen and back to edin ... this was a service in the late 80s
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff 👍😀
@ieuandavies4134
@ieuandavies4134 Жыл бұрын
Blimey, I remember these being delivered newly converted...I'm getting old!!!😳😳😳
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Haha, I can't answer that 😬😀
@marshallman7608
@marshallman7608 Жыл бұрын
You're getting old . . . . I used to drive the bloody things 😟 During the training remember one guy commenting that he wasn't sure if he liked driving a train from a cupboard in the Guard's van 😆
@ieuandavies4134
@ieuandavies4134 Жыл бұрын
@@marshallman7608 Try a 153 then!!!!🤣🤣🤣
@alexishamer6427
@alexishamer6427 Жыл бұрын
Welcome 🤗 back to the old trains 🚆 are with ScotRail. Don’t they look 👀 fantastic. Perhaps 🤔 they are slam door 🚪 trains 🚂. Back over a century time ago there were slam door 🚪 trains 🚊 in 1923. Today’s date is Saturday 11th February 2023 has decent trains 🚆 with electric ⚡️ doors 🚪 🚪. Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 is above ☝️ England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. I’ve been to Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 in 1995 and 2006. 🙂
@kevfrombutterley
@kevfrombutterley Жыл бұрын
Oof. Yes please. That looks spot on.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Definitely 👍
@ludwigtails
@ludwigtails Жыл бұрын
Can someone give me more information as how the consist usually is? I did not expect the whole train to be just 5 carriages (including the DVT). I thought it would be longer
@ronaldweir712
@ronaldweir712 Жыл бұрын
These trains set really fast times between Edinburgh and Glasgow of around 40 minutes or so and were sadly replaced by cramped two car and four car 158s which often had problems with the doors closing.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Another ' good ' example of progress 🙄.
@ronaldweir712
@ronaldweir712 Жыл бұрын
@@philclarke3203 hardly progress when you sat in the eight am train to queen street and it eventually left around 8:30 because the doors wouldn't close.
@justinobrien3593
@justinobrien3593 Жыл бұрын
everything loco hauled got replaced by rubbish 🗑 electric operated tin can sprinters sadly all over the UK! then if it ❄ snows or we get leaves on the lines these bog units can't operate! a class 47 or any other loco hauled train wouldn't have these issues as I would rather travel in a mk1-2-3 propper coach than on a crap bog unit dmu/emu sprinter or any other modern foreign rubbish that dominates the uk's failing railway networks in the 2020s 😎
@ronaldweir712
@ronaldweir712 Жыл бұрын
@@justinobrien3593 well having used the class 385 8 car EMU set from Haymarket to Glasgow last month. I couldn't fault them. Acceleration was lively and the ride was very good. The seats were comfortable and spacious and there were plenty of them. There are trains every 15 minutes too and they are proving very popular. The only downside is the front end looks hellish. As for the 158s a lot now work on rural lines such as trains around Fife and north to and from Inverness with better seats. You can often see a 158 set coupled to a 170 turbo star where a longer train is needed. Scotrail inherited some HST sets and none travel south or east of Edinburgh as I would love to see them tackle the Border Railway which is proving a big challenge for the 170s on that route.
@fp4man542
@fp4man542 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldweir712 What problems are the class 170 units having on the Borders line? I've only been that way a couple of times, when 158 sets were in use.
@ClydebridgeStation
@ClydebridgeStation Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see the day, when we would have a proper Scotrail Express, push pull, back on the mainline! Fantastic effort!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Like many people, no doubt 😀
@ClydebridgeStation
@ClydebridgeStation Жыл бұрын
@philclarke3203 By coincidence, I have 47712 on my layout, but in parcels red livery. I also have the DBSO 9707,but 47708 is the train locomotive.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
It certainly is! Anything seems possible with LSL?
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
@@ClydebridgeStation very nice! I have 47705 in Scot Rail livery, sound fitted.
@markcf83
@markcf83 Жыл бұрын
That looks fabulous. Perhaps the ScotRail franchise should look at copying this for their current units.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
It does look great 👍
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 Жыл бұрын
Or hire it for the Fortwilliam or Far North lines ?
@rileyludlow961
@rileyludlow961 Жыл бұрын
those coaches look like mark 3's, not mark 2's which is what they used back in the day. this might be because of the camera angle. correct me if im wrong.
@lesdonaldson520
@lesdonaldson520 Жыл бұрын
Memories of travelling to Glasgow and Edinburgh from Falkirk High
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Hope they were good ones 👍
@holmesjunction
@holmesjunction Жыл бұрын
Bit shiny!😎
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Very 👍😀
@ClydebridgeStation
@ClydebridgeStation Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil. I'll be attending Model Rail Scotland this Saturday, with my camcorder, to film the show, and it's the same weekend 47712 does her inaugural railtour in push pull mode. I'll mention this in the intro, at the show, but was wondering, is it OK for me to use a little bit of your footage as well in my video from Model Rail Scotland, to give more depth to what I'll be saying? Thanks in advance!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Yes,that will be ok. 👍
@ClydebridgeStation
@ClydebridgeStation Жыл бұрын
@philclarke3203 thanks, and I'll make sure I put on the footage I use, that it came from you
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
@@ClydebridgeStation thanks . I'll look out for your video of the show. Wouldn't have minded going, but it's a long way for me.
@davidpring9108
@davidpring9108 Жыл бұрын
I truly miss the whine of those mk3's
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
It was noticeable 😀
@fatnortherner3198
@fatnortherner3198 Жыл бұрын
Looks good but a real Push/Pull set would be a pair of 27's and early MK2's
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree Жыл бұрын
The MkIII carriage seats are a damn sight more comfortable than what has replaced them. Are carriage seats now designed to be deliberately uncomfortable?
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I'm sure they must be . 😬👍
@grahamwalls9379
@grahamwalls9379 Жыл бұрын
What was the purpose of the test run ? .
@MiniforceRailfan
@MiniforceRailfan Жыл бұрын
Scotrail Trains React to Class 47 Scotrail’s Return: Scotrail Commuter Train Siblings Reacting to This Video: OMG! It’s Our Granddad! He came Back! Mam! Granddad came Back and He’s in Chester! Class 43 HST Scotrail Reacting to This Video: Lemme See! *Gasp* It’s really Him! Your Dad would be really Proud to See Your Granddaddy!
@matty99
@matty99 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I’ve got a semi 🤤
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😀👍
@StuAnderson90
@StuAnderson90 Жыл бұрын
let's hope it doesn't come across a highland cow....
@Aidankiwi
@Aidankiwi Жыл бұрын
Not highland cattle involved, but one of these sets was derailed at high speed by cattle that had strayed on the line at Polmont in the mid 1980s. Sadly caused significant loss of life.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, as in the comment below 😢
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
@@Aidankiwi a sad day 😢
@steveluckhurst2350
@steveluckhurst2350 Жыл бұрын
@@Aidankiwi whoosh !
@butikimbo9595
@butikimbo9595 Жыл бұрын
Not really a fan of Push-Pull trains apparence this formations resemble a multiple unit when on push running rather than the classic train we all know loco first, so i believe LSL likewise on Intercity formations might strugle to attract enthusiasts when and if put this Scotrail formation on tours as it happened with intercity formation. Working Extras services purposes like for Avanti West Coast throughout Her Majesty's funeral week last year for instance, would be very useful, specially on non-electrified lines as a class 47 matching its livery would be permanently allocated to provide traction i guess.Thank you for sharing the video.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, my pleasure. I know what you mean,about preferring loco hauled trains. The first tour on 24th February was quickly fully booked, not sure of any future tours yet. Last year's Inter city, trips to help Avanti, was for publicity, and to show they could do it, as much as anything
@BigGoucho
@BigGoucho Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is that Scotrail logo squint?
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about that
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 Жыл бұрын
Why not?
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 Жыл бұрын
@@philclarke3203 Why not ? Make a good spot hire !! Only problem is RA , traction and route knowledge !!
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