Avoid This Transmission Like the Plague
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3 жыл бұрынTransmissions you should avoid in these cars and trucks. Avoid This Transmission Like the Plague, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Top 10 worst transmission to buy. Is the Ford and GM 10 Speed automatic transmission reliable? Are Ford and GM cars and trucks good? Are Ford 10 speed transmissions worth it? Bad transmission not to buy. Should I buy a 10 speed transmission? Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 52 years.
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@nokoolaid 3 жыл бұрын
GM and Ford transmissions aren't exactly the same and even within Ford, they are different depending on the model of truck, meaning 150 versus 250 etc.
@michaelpichardo4743 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty got a Hyundai 2016 Tucson Limited with the 1.6 turbo engine and dual clutch transmission. Had no problems so far bought it used with 15,000 miles. In the course of 3 years have taken the vehicle to 74.000 miles. What is your experience on those vehicles with high mileage and if there’s any preventive maintenance I can do before anything goes wrong., I’ve only done wear and tear components tyres, brake pads, oil changes and filters.
@bobjames7079 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty i read an article that Hyundai was in development of a manual transmission with out a clutch
@cessealbeach 3 жыл бұрын
@@nokoolaid The Gm 10 speed is Not the same 10 speed ford uses, they have different soft ware and some hardware differences
@nokoolaid 3 жыл бұрын
@@cessealbeach I know, I think I said they were different. Scotty didn't make the differentiation. The version used on the 7.3 is different. Heavier duty internal parts than the one used in the F-150 and Mustang.
@smithraymond09029 3 жыл бұрын
The only reliable ten speed I know about has "Schwinn" written on it.
@876r876rf 3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good one
@zarakdurrani7584 3 жыл бұрын
On your bicycle, you mean?
@DoEverythingDerek 3 жыл бұрын
Honda 10at
@johnchildress6717 3 жыл бұрын
Eaton or Fuller ,good 10 speed,Road Ranger
@michaelt1349 3 жыл бұрын
@1234 "Shimano" is the correct spelling for those wonderful 10 speeds in the 1970's that used those gears (my 1973 Peugeot 10 speed)
@310_Latchkey_kid 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be worst than my Altima's CVT!
@UProductions457 3 жыл бұрын
Nissan is Japan’s Chevy
@darthdarthbinkss 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss... of a car.
@donaldzuramp4404 3 жыл бұрын
My dad’s altima has a 300k miles and still runs but its from 2006 im not sure if it has the same cvt from today’s altimas
@mrgarrison3516 3 жыл бұрын
Anything can be worse. Anything can be better.
@UProductions457 3 жыл бұрын
ALF ALPHA, oh yeah i forgot XD
@IamMugs 3 жыл бұрын
I beat my 10 speed like a red headed step child day in and out and never have had a single hiccup.
@posten18 3 жыл бұрын
Same here I’ve got a 6.2 Sierra and I’m pretty rough on it when it’s race night. Not a single problem. I have had mine a year now
@IamMugs 3 жыл бұрын
@Greg B You do realize the 10 speed has been out for 4 years, right? You do realize they're in vehicles that are WELL used.. beaten on.. right? Sit down
@cpmiller1965 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2019 f150 4x4 10 speed, 25k no issues to date, I’ve pulled boat trailer and flatbed car carrier, so far so good, still love the ride.. I noticed fuel economy isn’t 21mpg, I’m typically around 19mpg.
@IamMugs 3 жыл бұрын
@Greg B "You do realize" You can get the 6 speed in the W/T and custom. Then, the 8 speed only comes in the lower HP motors like the 2.7 and 5.3. The 3.0 diesel and 6.2 still have the 10 speed. The 10 speed is in literally everything from the Mustang to High Country
@posten18 3 жыл бұрын
@Greg B the 10speed only starts to act up when you start putting more horsepower. It’s harder to tune because GM doesn’t like people messing with their stuff apparently so people leave the trans tune stock and have too much hp.
@bikecommuter24 3 жыл бұрын
"Nothing is simple anymore" Scotty Kilmer 2020 True words indeed.
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Let me show you a 3-dimensional, multi-color, animated chart to explain Scotty's point. As you see here, the red bar represents other factors not explained here, while.....
@groermaik 3 жыл бұрын
A real man admits when they are wrong. You sir, are a real man. Good evening, Scotty.
@scottykilmer 3 жыл бұрын
evening!
@johnburke1214 3 жыл бұрын
I own the car with the transmission. Had its fluid checked out. And since then, with the addition of half a quart. I have had the best experience with it. Just really need to let it warm up on a cold morning. It's the biggest part about it. Let it warm and get that fluid level checked.
@troytruong8246 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a talk with my buddy about this topic. Real mature adults will admit when they are wrong. U will be surprised that many folks will lie straight to your face when they know damn well they are wrong because of their pride and ego.
@wellnix53 3 жыл бұрын
@@troytruong8246 Sounds like a politician.
@sammyiscool335 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesz_hunt your mom too 👍
@thetechlibrarian 3 жыл бұрын
I drove a zf hp 8 speed and it was the best transmission I have ever driven, it shifts so fast and smooth I mean it feels better then any dct I ever drove. It’s the only auto I ever would consider getting over a stick.
@JohannGambolputty22 3 жыл бұрын
I had a BMW 335 and it had it. Loved it so much. I sold it to get my Jeep Trackhawk. Didn’t realize until I bought it that it has the ZF8HP also and I couldn’t be happier.
@jubamas0 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@boostedbavarian 2 жыл бұрын
My 340i agrees with you. I wanted to drive a dodge with zf before i bought my 6.2 trailboss, but they had nothing in same class as tb. 3600miles and its going in for the trans shudder tmw. Ugh. Chevy has gone so down hill.
@jsull2891 2 жыл бұрын
@@boostedbavarian power wagon isn't bad, can't remember how it compares to the trail boss though. so long as dodge keeps making the 5.7 and using the zf 8 speed I will be a customer. very reliable setup.
@xMetal98 2 жыл бұрын
I currently have a bmw F10 520d, at the beginning I thought I was driving a DCT it changes gears so fast. Regular transmission oil change and it still works like new after 135k miles (built in Europe)
@javaman2883 3 жыл бұрын
Decades ago it was common to have an auxiliary transmission on trucks. But they lasted for a long time. Maybe those should come back. Have a close ratio 4-6 speed automatic, with a three speed rear end that can switch depending on hauling/flat road/mountainous terrain/low speed operation.
@Justin-ik6se 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 2 mustangs with 10 speeds and absolutely love them and no problems. According to Scotty everything is junk.
@mikesamra9126 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter has a 2019 Ecoboost Mustang with the 10-speed auto and that thing screams and is smooth as silk on shifts.
@Steven91992 3 жыл бұрын
Same I have a f150 and mustang with the 10 speed zero issues love it so far.
@robthomas1829 3 жыл бұрын
you a leaf fan too. lol
@mrgarrison3516 3 жыл бұрын
My sister has a Nissan CVT & she says it's the best transmission ever 🤷
@troytruong8246 3 жыл бұрын
Is your car over 140k miles yet? Cant say it is reliable if it is still new! Lol
@jimmyjimjims7483 3 жыл бұрын
The scotty cat pillows continue to multiply, one day they will take over the entire room haha
@martind349 3 жыл бұрын
Calvino 😉
@Spartan-bh9tx 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Scotty's kitten seat covers? 😻😻😻
@gizzy2403 3 жыл бұрын
Hes breeding them, th 1 on bottom left looks like him!😅🍸
@crappycigar9665 3 жыл бұрын
Where can we buy them?
@Fredsons12345 3 жыл бұрын
@@crappycigar9665 Ali Express
@bingoknight6280 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scotty. Thank you for stepping out of the trunk of your Toyota Supra to deliver us these messages of correct car ownership and maintenance.
@whoseyourchef2160 3 жыл бұрын
You've missed several important things here Scotty... 1. Both GM light duty trucks use one of 3 different transmissions depending on trim level, engine, etc... The new Escalade, Tahoe, Yukon, Suburban, Yukon XL exclusively use the 10 speed. GM did not ditch the 10 speed. 2. Ford didn't ditch the GM transverse transmission all together, through their analysis they didn't deem the 9th gear necessary for fuel economy purposes and they build it as an 8 speed.
@hochhaul 2 жыл бұрын
"Ford didn't ditch the GM transverse transmission all together, through their analysis they didn't deem the 9th gear necessary for fuel economy purposes and they build it as an 8 speed." LOL Ford's analysis consisted of "how much money can we save by removing a gear" vs "how much will the fuel economy loss of removing a gear affect our CAFE numbers".
@Ritalie 2 жыл бұрын
@@hochhaul The other thing is, they didn't create fuel injection for "emissions." It's a nice thing to believe. Fuel injection assured a lock on the low gas mileage fuel scam that has plagued cars for the last 40 years. Since they created fuel injection, consumers have been stuck with really low, poor gas mileage. Before fuel injection came onto the scene, in the early 1970's, many people had solved the gas mileage problem and they were modifying their carburetor, and big cars like a Ford Grand Turino with a large V8 engine, were getting 60 mpg, or a 300% improvement in gas mileage compared to stock. A carburetor mixes the air and fuel much, much better than a fuel injection, because a carburetor has very warm fuel inside it, the the fuel has to travel an extremely long distance where it has time to tumble and mix with the air charge better. Look up the video a man just did: "Lawnmower Carburetor on a V8 Engine gets 40 mpg."
@RedHaloManiac95 Жыл бұрын
@@Ritalie yea you can get 40mpg on a v8 with a lawnmower carb but that is going to be a dog to drive. If you want a super efficient engine, don’t expect to get anywhere fast. Common sense dude. You can’t have great fuel mileage and make decent power. You care about fuel mileage go get a 4 banger
@JohnSmith-fi2ck 7 ай бұрын
@Ritalie yea yea and then the guy mysteriously disappeared right? Ever take college physics? understand BTU energy in gasoline?
@EricFortuneJr. 3 жыл бұрын
“Too much tech” Hit the nail on the head. Quantity over quality, they’ll eventually get the bugs worked out. It’ll become a solid reliable unit then they’ll scrap it for a 15 speed.
@heathbauerle2787 3 жыл бұрын
Just ask Eaton to make them instead. They make transmissions for the box trucks/semi's. Then GM will complain about the cost then develop there own 15 speed that will be total junk then the cycle will repeat with Allison.
@gagejernigan5277 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathbauerle2787 you realize Ford makes the same transmissions so is not just GM right?
@heathbauerle2787 3 жыл бұрын
@@gagejernigan5277 Yes. I was thinking more for the heavy duty trucks since the heavy duty 10 speeds are basically upgraded 1 ton transmissions. It is just that GM and Ford never cooperate well and will split to do their own operations.
@EricFortuneJr. 3 жыл бұрын
Gage Jernigan This is nothing new for Ford and GM, they’ve been sharing transmissions for years. Not sure if they were made in house but they’ve definitely shared key engineering with slightly different components. Then they’d scrap and start over with a new design and a lot of the flaws come to bad algorithms.. ie constantly hunting for higher gears to save gas or downshifting when it isn’t necessary then upshifting right back into the previous gear. I’ve driven some cars and it seems like it’s constantly hunting for the most efficient gear, back and forth between the same two gears. It’s annoying and there’s no way anything can last long doing that.
@spacecat7247 3 жыл бұрын
I've driven trucks with those automatics on and off over the years and yes they are better than they were but they still suck. They always wind up real tight from gear to gear they skip gears they're not sure what gears to skip they'll get stuck in a quandary between gears on certain Hills they're strange. sometimes they even coast in neutral down a hill and that's not exactly good in a big truck. 😖 10, 13, 15 ,18 whatever just let me shift for myself
@WarpFactor999 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you are staying safe down there in Houston Scotty. You have become a national treasure and one of the rarest of all breeds...an honest mechanic!
@theeverydayconservativelos217 3 жыл бұрын
WHERE ? did you get a picture? did it look like Bigfoot?
@larrytucker222 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 5.0/10 spd for 11k miles. Transmission never knew what gear to be in town. Engine sounded like a diesel. Traded it for a 2016 5.0/6spd. Now have a 2020 F150 4x4 Regular Cab with 3.3v6/6spd. Love it. Get between 22-24 mpg on the highway.
@jbthestoner5504 3 жыл бұрын
Allison transmissions are pretty good. We've changed only 2 at our shop on very old trucks and one ended up not needing a transmission after all 😅 (we're kind of a crappy shop when it comes to diagnostics, since we work for the government). They really seem to not give us much trouble, and that's better than what you can say for a lot of manufacturers these days.
@Chuckn0ris 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in a cnc shop that machined allison trans parts ,they had super tight tolerances like 1 thousandth of an inch, definetly quality components at least what we machined
@benjibyte8612 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. F1 quality. must be expansive machining and tough for qc
@leadnsteel1428 3 жыл бұрын
if only GM put this kind of quality in the rest of their transmissions
@Wittyusername82 3 жыл бұрын
.001" tolerance is tight? Haha hell of a machine shop you worked at.
@Spade_Caller 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wittyusername82 yeah man 😁 Who is using inches these days especially in this kind of application? Would be tight if it was 0.001 mm. 40 years mechanical engineering experience here in both, automotive and aviation industries. i.e. ZF, Liebherr. Airbus.
@jonmccormick8683 3 жыл бұрын
There is a regular and a hd version of this 10 speed transmission and it is in a ton of stuff Mustang, Ranger, F150 etc. I like the idea of having 3 od gears that the 10 speed offers. In fact if it was a manual with high/low (splitter) I would buy it. 8 speeds are pretty good also.
@dapoppa2256 3 жыл бұрын
I love mine in a 2020 F-150, longer than normal learning mode. Once it learns your habits it is great.
@terrystotzheim9719 3 ай бұрын
Have 57K miles on my 2018 F150, occasionally will have hard shifts and hard downshifts but love the trans!
@2003SCT 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree Scotty. I own a 2007 Lexus LS460 and it’s been a nightmare of expensive repairs including it’s 8 speed transmission. I think Toyota too is good when it comes to the basic cars but as things get complicated, things get unreliable.
@JOERANSTRAIGHT 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2008 Lexus LS 460 One 182,000 miles not a single problem transmission runs like a dream doesn’t burn oil still looks quite new on the outside and purrs like a kitten
@2003SCT 4 ай бұрын
Even my dash plastics melted like so many Lexus products from around that time. Lexus did replace them with matching hard plastic under the major recall. Dash cracked like so many as well.
@MzKandiLane 3 жыл бұрын
"think logically" everyday Scotty, every day of my life lol. Seriously though I've figured out many head-scratchers this way. Trace back how the part or system works and you'll always find your culprit. 👍
@AL-SH 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Scotty. Hope you're having a wonderful weekend. You've inspired me to open up an auto shop so I just signed a 3 year lease last week for a new warehouse. Thank you
@theamericanforester 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck buddy! Treat your people right and be honest !
@AL-SH 3 жыл бұрын
@@theamericanforester Thank you man. That is my recipe for success, if you will... treating each and every person with respect and honesty.
@slicaltimistic1 3 жыл бұрын
👍😁Great job Al. Wish you a tremendous success.
@AL-SH 3 жыл бұрын
@@slicaltimistic1 Thank you so much brother. You as well
@TeddyReKz 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations !!! Like all the afore mentioned comments treat your people fairly and recommend them repairs for issues you see with their vehicles and prepare for lifelong customers !
@robertswick7654 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently purchased 2021 Camaro 2SS with a 10 speed automatic transmission, so far it works great. I took it on a 300mile trip, going I got 25.8 mpg and coming back 28.2 mpg. The computer shifts the engine from 8 cylinders to 4 cylinders while cruising with out a load. So far I am happy with the car, everything seems to be working ok. Right now I have @1000 miles on it.
@MarkSmith-js2pu 7 ай бұрын
How is it now?
@jerryumfress9030 3 жыл бұрын
Your right Scotty, there's so much tech going into an already overpriced vehicle that engineers themselves can hardly troubleshoot anything
@railer666 3 жыл бұрын
More complex equals more trouble. I love a stick shift, simple and reliable.
@mrgarrison3516 3 жыл бұрын
FORD mustang standard transmission 👍
@timothykeith1367 3 жыл бұрын
That's another reason to wait for longer range EVs. Better EVs probably won't be commodity priced until after 2024
@Mackinac_Man 3 жыл бұрын
Ford Ranger, shift stick🙌
@choppythechimp1567 3 жыл бұрын
98 ford ranger stick shift. The slave cylinder just went out though.
@adriennecarrasco37 3 жыл бұрын
I would like a manual but seems like to much of a hassle for my short commutes with heavy stop and go traffic. Not a fan of the CVT transmission my car has but functions well for my purpose and I get great fuel economy. My step dad has a 2 hour commute on the highway with his manual and that drive is very enjoyable in his car, even with other daily driving.
@afrozensquirl6590 3 жыл бұрын
There's honestly no excuse that car manufacturers that have been around for such a long time continue to produce garbage instead of quality products.
@ScottMeister 3 жыл бұрын
Analogy here... If food manufacturers *ONLY* made doughnuts, then you'd be forced to buy doughnuts. Hey, ya gotta eat, right? Same for car makers. If they *ONLY* produce garbage quality, then you gotta buy what's available, right? They're banking on that sleazy practice! So do your homework. Do your research. Don't be tempted by the flashy car commercials that're shoved down our throats at every commercial break & listen to the people that KNOW & have been around for a while to see these changes...like Scotty here. No, not me, the *OTHER* Scotty! :)
@justayoutuber1906 3 жыл бұрын
I guess if the products never changed. But if companies are trying to push the limits, there will always be mistakes, even Toyota, Apple, and Google had mistakes.
@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын
Now they produce better garbage 😀😁😠😃😄😅
@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын
They give you the car then sell you the parts, like paper vacuum cleaner bags.
@steveschilling5966 3 жыл бұрын
SCOTTY IS WRONG
@edwingier3346 3 жыл бұрын
The GM Allison plant in White Marsh, MD, closed May 4, 2019!
@rockytop4 3 жыл бұрын
There made rat now in South Carolina
@Ellfyn 3 жыл бұрын
They are not real Allison’s only by name Allison does not make them
@bradleypollack5658 3 жыл бұрын
They make them in China now. We got to give the CEO and investors their raises!
@jonjameson6352 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleypollack5658 ... don't think this is true... what is your source
@jonjameson6352 3 жыл бұрын
@Hideika they are moving to the 10 speed
@dforrest4503 3 жыл бұрын
The cat pillows multiplied in the middle of the video! They’re taking over!
@johnrobinson5156 3 жыл бұрын
You have taught me to never buy anything made by anyone after 2010. Keeping my 1995 GMC Safari. I can fix.
@texasyank48 3 жыл бұрын
The 10 spd transmission is still standard in several of the higher Silverado trim levels.
@jimm2442 3 жыл бұрын
It is still available and Scotty is flat out wrong about this.
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
And they’re fine.
@christhedoc8689 3 жыл бұрын
@@chevyon37s they are the best transmission in American cars... that's why you will find it just in the expensive models.
@calebniederhofer6529 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimm2442 He is dead wrong on this one , and I have a 10 speed in my 19 F150 with 50k. Not one issue , and the best transmission I have ever had in 4 trucks. I will say most people neglect basic maintenance such as fluid , filter changes.
@calebniederhofer6529 3 жыл бұрын
@@thistagworked Not at all. It is better actually. If designed well. I can't hardly even tell when it shifts 90% of the time . The 10 speed provides better power , torque curve , as well as mileage.
@nicksautorepair6936 3 жыл бұрын
For that Ford, key removal issue... check the lever at the bottom of the steering column where the shift cable connects. There’s 2 torx screws that hold the lever in place. They loosen up over time and cause all kinds of issues. Start there before you buy any parts. If the screws backed out, it’ll cause this problem. Clean the holes with solvent along with the screws then apply loc-tite and crank ‘em down.😉 Might be a nice low dough repair.😊
@thelastdragon3242 Жыл бұрын
The thing I hate is that you used to be able to swap transmissions with a more robust one with little modification, but now, you have to make sure that you can tune the ecm and the tcm to work together. You are also hard pressed to find a combo that works. They have gone far past " if it ain't broke don't fix it"
@photoniccannon2117 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is that six speeds are the sweet spot. I’ve seen and driven many cars with 8, 9, or 10 working at dealerships. It has diminishing returns, and they’re generally less reliable. Plus they tend to shift in erratic ways. There isn’t a ton of difference from one gear to the next and it gets funky to figure out what it’s gonna do and how it’s gonna respond when you drive. My six speed drives much better.
@79random Жыл бұрын
I had a F150 5.0 with the 6spd and daily driving was much nicer than my 5.0 with the 10spd I have now. When it comes to towing though I find the 10spd much better. I did however just have a new tranny installed last week on warranty 2yrs old and 35K kms
@m3vt2seffn 3 жыл бұрын
I finally figured out who you remind me of Scotty Grandpa from The Munsters
@camiloroa2944 3 жыл бұрын
And he also looks like the bad guy from the smurfs! Lol
@justayoutuber1906 3 жыл бұрын
Mixed with Geddy Lee
@m3vt2seffn 3 жыл бұрын
@@justayoutuber1906 yes I don't have to agree with you it does look like geddy Lee living in the life like this
@D.Jay. 3 жыл бұрын
Ford and GM worked together on the 6f50 transmissions back in 2009. Those transmissions are great.
@graf1k 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed Midnight in Chernobyl on Scotty's bookshelf. Respect. Fantastic book.
@lw4518 3 жыл бұрын
There is a new Chernobyl documentary on KZfaq just posted a few weeks ago it a good one !
@kennethwilliams4874 3 жыл бұрын
"The GM front-wheel drive one turned out to be a piece of crap." I love this guy.
@JamesSusanka 3 жыл бұрын
scotty is a treasure and love it when he says junk yard they show a chevy dealer lol. I will never buy another gm again after the cruze I bought.
@ccol009 3 жыл бұрын
I know right! It kinda makes me wonder because I have a 2017 Camaro. I got it with 15,000 miles used for about $25,000. I daily drive it, and as of now currently it has 75,500 miles on it. I just follow the maintenance schedule in my owners manual. I put the right fluids in and it still runs good.
@TimJoseph08031990 3 жыл бұрын
One KZfaq reviewer said that on his Ford Mustang, his 10 speed automatic transmission was a software issue, not a hardware issue.
@valeriebartz4549 3 жыл бұрын
My dad always watches this channel! Hi I know nothing of cars! But I love this channel because now I know a little more
@rideordie295 3 жыл бұрын
The 8 speeds they are putting in the Colorado’s are garbage too.
@markbremmer8642 3 жыл бұрын
Yep,my Canyons transmission is acting up. 18 model with 20k miles. Trans is acting up in 7&8 gear. Feels like the torque converter isn't locking.
@thebarebonescom 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbremmer8642 theres a recall for that. New fluid needs to be placed in the transmission and possibly the torque converter
@kirkjohnson2924 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbremmer8642 would you have rather gotten the ranger instead, if you could go back in time?
@markbremmer8642 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirkjohnson2924 not really. I would rather have the Nissan Frontier. Just a personal decision.
@urielhernandez3286 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbremmer8642 yea it’s a pretty good truck but just to warned you you get better gas mileage in the Colorado than on the Frontier
@BonJohnvie 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if the phrase “Avoid it like the plague” is a good phrase anymore as people aren’t good at doing that very thing.
@southerncharity7928 3 жыл бұрын
Plague is still dangerous. Scamdemic 19 is just nonsense.
@BonJohnvie 3 жыл бұрын
@@southerncharity7928 Thanks for proving my point.
@nakoma5 3 жыл бұрын
@@BonJohnvie LOL, he walked right into that one. xD
@JohnDoe-hx9bu 3 жыл бұрын
Scamdemic 😂
@BonJohnvie 3 жыл бұрын
@Bradley Thomsen thank you also for proving my point. You can tell that to my next door neighbour who lost 3 loved ones.
@mattbeebe1288 3 жыл бұрын
love the new scotty "kitty" pillows. theyre cool.
@davehayter312 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty says some have two cats.. I see three (3) cats in his background so he knows his stuff and is good to go! LOLOL... 😄😆🤣
@christophersanchez2389 3 жыл бұрын
The UpComing Ford Ranger Tremor Package is still Working on it.
@jeffreysantos9070 3 жыл бұрын
I love your Italian accent 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂 You make my day Scotty 👍
@colinr273 3 жыл бұрын
The Allison transmissions made in Baltimore are made in a factory that was set up specifically for that transmission. It is owned by GM and they can use the Allison name. It was designed by Allison engineers. The stuff made for heavy duty trucks is almost entirely made in Indianapolis. There is some production overseas but most of that is dedicated to the overseas OEM market.
@Pistonburn 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve rebuilt Allison’s for over 40 years, sorry Scotty, I like you but you are wrong on so many levels here I won’t even get started. For those Ford and GM guys who have 10 speeds, relax, there may be a couple hiccups here and there but they’ll get worked out.
@bigd825 2 жыл бұрын
Was owned.
@boomer1991 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my 2018 Denali since November 2017, so far, 88,000 miles on the 10 speed transmission. The only problem I had was about 60k miles or so, it started shifting funny, sometimes if would spin then hit hard. Took it to the dealership, they replaced the fluid with a "higher quality fluid", then I "believe", but not sure, they updated the software and reset the PCM. Fixed the problem, and now at 88k miles, doing great. I just think the 10 speed is real picky about what fluid you put in it, and may need a software update if you have one of the earlier ones. So I think it's a great transmission (so far) but I do worry about it. And, last I checked, they are still offering the 10 speed in the 2021 and 2022 models. I believe this transmission had bugs, but think GM is doing a good job addressing the little issues. Time will tell I suppose.....
@00raisergundam 3 жыл бұрын
Rented a 2020 Ford Explorer RWD it had 5,000 miles and it was jerky.
@Len1977gt 3 жыл бұрын
ouch
@gregdavis7316 3 жыл бұрын
Took my St explorer about 5k miles for the trans to smooth out. Initially it would kinda slam into 1st and 2nd when downshifting, but now shifts super smooth and fast for me. We’ll see how it does as the miles keep racking up. But I’ve heard it’s not as good with with the 2.3L engine, not enough power for it or something.
@BrianBourgeois- 3 жыл бұрын
The ten speed takes some time to wear in. Mine didn’t really smooth out till the second oil change.
@curtchase3730 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregdavis7316 We just bought a 2019 Ranger w/10sp. It has only 3000 miles on it. I hope it smooths out! Shifts terrible at this time. Can't decide what gear to be in, especially at urban speeds.
@bigmix70 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because the transmission learns how you drive, not saying it’s cool or anything of the such.. it sucks, but when the transmission control module is tuned to how you drive it shifts like a dream.
@swiftbear 3 жыл бұрын
As I said in another of your videos, I want a vehicle with the simplicity of a Lada made in the USA. I'm so sick of over engineered, over designed, complicated, computerized, gadgets and technology packed vehicles.
@stephendavidbailey2743 3 жыл бұрын
I am completely happy with the 4T60-E four-speed automatics in both of my GM cars. The cars as well.
@jefffrazier7237 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scotty .for helping so many of us with the truth about automotive problems
@david_aaron236 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Ford with the 10 speed. I like it so far, shifts good, good fuel economy.
@coiledsteel8344 3 жыл бұрын
Only 2 years of Normal Driving is nothing!
@pajamatime5750 3 жыл бұрын
How many miles ya got on?
@david_aaron236 3 жыл бұрын
42k miles so far
@pajamatime5750 3 жыл бұрын
David Pritchard Right on!
@South_0f_Heaven_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Bradley Thomsen Ignore him, old man that’s getting almost 30 mpg in a ‘99 mercury marquis. V8 4 speed auto. He was talking about pigs flying earlier........
@sic7475 3 жыл бұрын
The 6 speed allison transmission used in the 2013 chevy 3500 hd could very well be one of the best truck transmissions ever made
@charlesrodriguez7984 2 жыл бұрын
Allison also makes the 2500 5 and 6 speed transmissions for buses and bigger trucks.
@abdbach379 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 BMW f10 535d with a ZF 8 speed auto which is much more complicated then the ford/gm stuff but after 9 years it hasn't skipped a beat and it's still the smoothest transmission I've ever driven. I always drove manuals but first time I drove the BMW was the the moment when I changed my mind about auto transmissions.
@antor.j.medrano 3 жыл бұрын
Always love the laughing horse.
@salvadormuniz5628 3 жыл бұрын
If the Ford F-150 was offered with stick shift transmission, it'd be my perfect pick up choice.
@lordjaashin 3 жыл бұрын
old manual transmission. nothing is more reliable than it.
@TheEmpoleon123456789 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if we got an N/A 4.0L or so inline six with RWD and a stick shift in an F150? I'd buy in a heartbeat. Six cylinders is enough towing for me, and RWD gives you better fuel economy and towing
@diablocls55 3 жыл бұрын
Vivek Peri if we got a regular Naturally aspirated V8 only and none of that turbo charger crap, I would buy it. Manual would be fun, and general would be better especially if you’re gonna be towing, but I’d still take an automatic if it were reliable.
@davef.2811 3 жыл бұрын
If it were offered again, they'd figure out how to screw it up by adding electronics to it somehow to cut down on the reliability, making you further dependent on, and at the mercy of the dealership.
@neilrosychuk6104 3 жыл бұрын
A GM with a manual would be better.
@CouchMan88 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard the 10 speed GM transmissions had problems. Luckily my 2016 Corvette is an 8 speed. It drives and shifts nice but I still have my worries about it. I really don't like the AFM cylinder deactivation in the car, when I first got the car I thought the transmission had a problem but it was just the cylinder deactivation. Bought a module to stop it from happening and now it feels fine. Not sure why it even had it I can still get up to 30 mpg on the freeway if I cruise at 70.
@CouchMan88 3 жыл бұрын
Sound Waves I took it on a 1500 mile road trip with my uncle to go see my dad (his brother). At that time I was still using the 4 cylinder mode and getting up to 35 mpg on the highway. My uncle said it gets better mileage than his v6 Accord. Didn’t buy it for fuel economy obviously but I was very surprised when I got the car how good the fuel economy is on the freeway. The rpm is only at about 1200 at 70 mph in top gear.
@BrianBourgeois- 3 жыл бұрын
Most of that stuff isn’t for the real world. It’s for the epa mileage loop they do on dynamometers.
@golding69 3 жыл бұрын
great advise on the key turn engine switch!
@darens440 3 жыл бұрын
The Sierra BASE model will come with 6 speed trans. The 8 speed is optional and a $200 discount on other trims. Some trims will only come with the 10 speed. They are all good in my opinion and i personally own a 2016 8 speed truck that has been great for over 76k miles now.
@bartekmedes8281 3 жыл бұрын
GM dropping them and Ford is moving all their vehicles to them, go figure. Unfortunately, the GM 8 speed is the worst transmission they ever made.
@scottg391 3 жыл бұрын
Well no, the 8 speed is an excellent unit that had software issues for the first couple of years of production. They are extremely strong units that can handle 600lb of torque in stock form. The software was hastily developed causing a multitude of shifting issues, which led to clutch failure. Of course this was a mismanagement issue as are most of GM’s problems of the last 10 years. It’s sad the bean counters are in charge and not the engineers.
@scottg391 3 жыл бұрын
yoyo 19 He’s not talking about Ford. They have had their own problems with the 10speed programs also. They all use pretty much the same technology and the internals are pretty much identical. The problems they all face is the complexity of programming these boxes. The idea is to keep the engine in the optimum power band which leads to gear searching and a multitude of other issues that only real world driving conditions and time will pan out. They are mechanically sound but often take time to sort out the software. I would be comfortable with the GM 8 or 10 speed in a 2020 or 21 product. Along with the Ford gear box of the last 2 or 3 years. They have managed to deal with all of their issues for now.
@bartekmedes8281 3 жыл бұрын
@yoyo 19 you not watch the video or just cant read? the video is about GM dropping the 10 speed and ford is moving to it across all vehicles.
@bartekmedes8281 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottg391 ITs not excellent and its already been shown they have engineering faults. The torque converter is bad, valvebody is poor and it shifts poorly .
@jassmaan4998 3 жыл бұрын
Scott G i bought new f150 because of scotty with 2.7 ecoboost 10 speed tarns. but i dont have any issues its 2019 model. very smooth. sorry for english
@MegaThunder70 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience most of my customers have more problems with the eight speed transmission by GM than the 10 speeds
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 8 speeds are a disaster.
@MegaThunder70 3 жыл бұрын
Blake Word maybe they’ve fixed the problem.
@MegaThunder70 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching some videos about it and they are saying the problem with the transmissions were the fluid was eating up the torque converter so they would have to replace the fluid and torque converter and it would fix the problem. But if that’s the case why was the class action lawsuit filed after a fix was announced?
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
MegaThunder70 might’ve programmed them better but every problem I saw was the torque converters making them shake real bad on the highway
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
MegaThunder70 I’m not sure. They told us to flush them and refill with Dexron HP fluid. Haven’t seen any come back after that though. The 6l80’s in the 14-18 model years had more converters fail though it seemed like and they say use the Dexron VI in those. The flush will stop the shaking but there’s still some that have really bad gear shock in the low gears. Nothing we can do with that
@BOSS-xy8op 3 жыл бұрын
9 months ago I bought a 2010 Toyota Camry with the 2.5L 4 Cylinder engine with 190,000 miles on it. One owner and it was driven mainly on the interstate. The selling point was it was 6 Speed Manual shift. The best car I have ever bought.
@AlaskaErik 3 жыл бұрын
All I hear people complaining about on the Silverado/Sierra forum is the 8 speed transmission in the Silverado/Sierra 1500. I have the 10 speed and it's a great transmission. No problems with my 2019 Silverado 1500.-
@FSFate05 3 жыл бұрын
The ZF 8 speed is pretty nice FCA picked the right trans
@ae747sp5 3 жыл бұрын
Not the 9 speed.
@FSFate05 3 жыл бұрын
@@ae747sp5 it has gotten better now that they know the proper programming, the dog clutches make it feel funny some times but you get used to it
@JohannGambolputty22 3 жыл бұрын
ZF 8HP is fantastic. My Mopar and my BMW have it. Wonderful transmission
@BBD40 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohannGambolputty22 not really. It has issues too. Nothing high tech or new is without issue
@djenson 2 жыл бұрын
@@BBD40 would love to see the issues with it. it had a brilliant reputation.
@thekelly4178 3 жыл бұрын
I've had 2 Ford F150s with the 10-speed and both were great. They are smooth and shift quickly. 1st was a 2018 F150 with the 2.7l eco and now a 2019 with the 5.0 4x4. No issues with either. I'd buy another without hesitation.
@tphelan86 3 жыл бұрын
How’s the oil consumption with 5.0 , mine burns a lot of oil
@thekelly4178 3 жыл бұрын
@@tphelan86 TSB2365 addresses the issue
@mysterysolver514 3 жыл бұрын
My 2020 makes like a cloc sound when it shifts doesnt do it all the time, and ford do want to see the probleme so i hate this ride
@mysterysolver514 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekelly4178 do yours rattle very bad when cold?
@thekelly4178 3 жыл бұрын
@@mysterysolver514 No. No rattles or anything. My 5.0 with the 10 speed is great.
@blaccfeather5803 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooooo the new cats poppin up on the couch is killin me
@thomasjefferson6080 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Toyota Camry. Sure it’s not a modern design, sure it’s not fancy. However I know that when I go down the road people are drooling over how smooth and amazingly effortless the transmission shifts. At 17 years old I still have more confidence going cross country in that machine versus a brand new ford or other product. Amazing car.
@MyGuyKirby 3 жыл бұрын
Sad, I have 32k on my 10-speed F150 and is just great.
@Tridd666 3 жыл бұрын
A transmission is untested until you put 150k on it
@brodrickrobertson3459 3 жыл бұрын
Got 171k on my 12 f150 4WD. Pull trailers all the time. Campers, lawn care equip. Hope it holds has done awesome so far.
@onebdcuda 3 жыл бұрын
til you start pulling a trailer lol
@johnpflug1567 3 жыл бұрын
I heard on the internet that there is a shortage of 10 speeds. Plus more profit for GM with the 8 speed!
@etherjoe505 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff scotty
@quinton8312 3 жыл бұрын
As a previous owner of a 2010 f150 with the new at time 6r80 transmission and now owner of brand new 2020 f150 with the 10 speed I can understand what Scotty has to say in a way but don’t fully agree you don’t need to be worried about the 10 spd(FORD), it’s a great smooth shifting transmission but has a lot of the exact same characteristic of the 6, it sometimes hunts to find gears and slams aswell as occasional clunking or feeling as if it’s not shifting right, but then again works great and smooth as silk or 95 percent of the time, I ran that transmission (6r80) over 300 000km and was great to me then selling it original running smooth and strong with its clunks here and there witch the top shop around my area says is normal no damage or anything to worry about it’s how it’s built witch was true after all those KM and still perfect no issues (witch I beleive the 10 will be the same way) may not be 100 percent right but nothing is built perfect my opinion drive it hard under warranty and don’t be soft it’s a strong and good trans! hope it helps
@jamesbradley6128 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember my 2 speed powerglide went forever
@terrycullender123 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably still going somewhere lol
@Preceptor-lf1ht 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! Forgot all about the band adjustment!
@BiIlDipperIy 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty is like that senior mechanic at any shop that just knows everything about every car 😂 love it.
@Shiftheads Жыл бұрын
" That thinks he knows everything"
@BiIlDipperIy Жыл бұрын
@@Shiftheads yet here you are, watching him...
@chrisbrys24 3 жыл бұрын
I have just hit 20,000 miles on my 10 speed mustang GT. So far so good. Fingers crossed 🤞😟
@rogerbanta6130 2 жыл бұрын
I haul everyday in my duramax 10 speed. 113,000 so far, love it
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
Ford didn’t use the GM 9 speed because it didn’t get the fuel economy that ford was looking for but it’s a very good and smooth transmission.
@jamesbarnes9504 3 жыл бұрын
I have the GM 9 speed in my truck. May be reliable but horrible shifting in the lower gears. Wish I could go back to the 6 speed I had before.
@windanthonystream 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the 9 speed is a fantastic transmission in my wife’s Chevy Traverse.. It shifts really smooth and very responsive.
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
James Barnes most modern transmissions have some gear shock in the early gears
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
James Barnes the 8 speed has a TSB out where GM put the wrong fluid in the transmission. They’ve switched it to the Dexron HP fluid, most people have said after getting the fluid switched, all troubles and complaints went away.
@MrAbword 3 жыл бұрын
Ernest Cassell helped mine A LOT!! No more shuttering or vibrating on the highway and no more hard downshifts that felt like I’m getting rear ended
@crete1man 3 жыл бұрын
I have a ten speed, it,s great . I love it.
@troyster91 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a truck driver and have driven several trucks with Allison transmissions. They’re extremely reliable and require very little maintenance.
@_Justnoble__ 2 жыл бұрын
The GM 8L90 has had numerous issues mine is having to be torn apart after 70k, yet the 4L80 in my 1994 has 250k on it and it’s perfect.
@richardbell7678 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like the 10-spd automatic transmission is a victim of both electronics technology and materials science. The electronics problem is that the transmission is spoiled for choice when selecting the next gear, and may have issues with being tempted to skip shift, both up and down, as circumstances warrant, as not sequencing through every ratio in the range can save wear and tear on the clutches. The materials science issue is that the power handling ability of a gear set is a function of the material strengths and the tooth engagement area. The old Powerglide transmissions were nearly indestructible, because they achieved the whole (PRNDL) quadrant (albeit with only two forward speeds) with a single planetary gear set, which could made quite large, relative to the transmission. More gear ratios require more gear sets. Ten forward speeds suggests four planetary gear sets. Ravigneaux gear sets can up the number of ratios. Nine speed ratios might be possible for two sets of Ravigneaux gears, so ten speeds requires at least three sets of planetary gears. Of course managing all of these speeds requires a number of clutches and brake bands, that all have to be smoothly managed. Each gear ratio needs a large enough tooth engagement area to handle the expected loads. The more tooth engagement area included in the transmission, the greater the volume of the transmission. The only way to shrink the area requirement is through the use of stronger materials The big thing about managing all of the clutches and brake bands is that the ideal design for both smooth operation and transmission longevity (ignoring issues of weight, volume, and cost) requires that shifting between adjacent gear ratios is achieved by changing the state of a single element (clutch or brake band) between grabbing and not grabbing. Trying to achieve a gear change by changing the state of multiple elements requires being able to handle the situation of all of these transitions not being completed at the same time. The 10-spd automatic may be another example of being able to build it does not always mean that you should build it.
@dad3562 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if running the vehicle in sport mode so it doesn’t skip gears is best so it goes through e every gear, but I’m not entirely sure that’s correct either ?
@hochhaul 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait until the Toyota guys find out their brand new Tundra was nothing more than a beta test for Aisin/Toyota. Toyota's 8-speed was a problem plagued trans and now they're rolling out a new 10-speed for the Tundra. They're going to demonstrate that totally new transmissions are extremely complex and there isn't a manufacturer out there that can roll out a totally new transmission without issues. Ford guys dogged GM guys due to the 8-speed, and when the Ford 10-speed came out, they got real quiet real fast. Soon the Toyota guys will be very quiet and very angry at Toyota.
@newbietubie 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Scotty can you share your thoughts about the Metris, Transit, Pro Master and NV?
@kenw3380 2 жыл бұрын
Just got one in my Mustang, should have got the 6-speed manual like my last one. What I don't like is the 10speed feels jerky with the 5.0 if you drive it normally. It will also skip gears at times. It's not smooth like my'99 Grand Marquis with the 4.6. What amazing is that a 23-year-old car can shift better then new car costing twice as much. I hope after the 10speed gets a few miles on it I will like it better. Maybe it's just too many gears for a car to have when driving it around town.
@Flydevice1 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I was thinking of getting a silverado with the 6.2 10spd combo cause the 6.2 is one of their best engines and the 10spd cause Scotty recommended it.
@mrkanap1925 3 жыл бұрын
we should retire the quote "like a plague", apparently people can't avoid it
@dougefresh7765 3 жыл бұрын
Mask up America !!!! 😷
@kylekirchner1163 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty your wrong on this one, the-y have shortage of 10 speeds. 8 speeds for the 5.3. 10 speeds for the 6.2 and diesel.
@966dman 3 жыл бұрын
Our 2020 SLT 4x4 has the 10 speed.
@k1llsw1tch65 3 жыл бұрын
The trail boss also have the 10speeds, my LT has the 8 speed! Let’s hope it’s trouble free for a couple years lol
@jamesrankin9833 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@jonnysnipes3123 3 жыл бұрын
2013 was the last best gmc I owned. My 2018 is beautiful but it just seems different. I hope it last me a long time but it just doesn’t feel like my 2013
@youdontknowme5969 3 жыл бұрын
2:16 Scotty's laugh
@gianmariavolonte4315 3 жыл бұрын
2:12 good job with the Italian accent......that was great! Agree with the 10-speeds, we have seen sooooo many 10- speeds come back and Ford's idea to fix it, reset the computer and make it "re-learn" it's adaptive shift strategy. In other words "we have no god damn clue what's wrong, so do this to make the customer shut up for a month or two." I really wish I could help these people, but it's frustrating when a new driveline component is installed with little or no help from the engineers on the dynamics on how this thing works (or supposed to).
@gianmariavolonte4315 3 жыл бұрын
@Bradley Thomsen The biggest issue I've seen is very harsh upshifts beyond the 1-3 gears and not as common is being stuck in a certain gear causing it to go into "limp mode" which is generally caused by a faulty solenoid . The 10-speed by nature is going to be jerky at low speeds, that's just how it is, even 6 speeds do this. However, these very harsh upshifts towards the higher range are the biggest concern that I have.
@philtriesti8015 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he doesn't like Italians.
@jup8934 3 жыл бұрын
@@gianmariavolonte4315 exact problem I've been having with my 10 speed but ford claims its " normal" smh 🤦♂️ geuss ill wait for a class action suit
@gianmariavolonte4315 3 жыл бұрын
@@jup8934 There already is.... at least there was. Not sure if it's still active.
@snipert6841 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 10speed in my f150... wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one. I would also choose to work on a newer car rather than an older car any day of the week.
@harovelochrysanthemandrian2362 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel 👍
@9663mu 3 жыл бұрын
Gm site still shows the Sierra Denali and AT4 with the 10 speed. Am I missing something ?
@josephcraig765 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they didn’t drop them. Ford is having great success with the ten speed. Scotty always hates anything that and a 99 Toyota. Lol he’s a good mechanic, just says a lot of things before actual time passes and that’s evident wjth his comments on the ecoboost which have been insanely successful.
@christhedoc8689 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephcraig765 the 10-speed autos are just the best transmissions than any other American transmission.
@kkoch666 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty you totally have this backwards. The 8 speed is being phased out in the higher trim models. The 10 speed is here to stay.
@christcrucified6385 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is full of it, lol
@benjanos 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for you to backpeddle on these 10 speeds! LOL. At least you are honest now.
@adamharris2674 3 жыл бұрын
Well he is wrong about the 10R80 Jack and you are too. It’s a great transmission and there are hundreds of thousands of them out there now in everything from Explorers to F450 diesels doing work
@benjanos 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamharris2674 OK good to know. Thank you
@Sacto1654 3 жыл бұрын
And you wonder why many cars around the world use ZF's eight-speed automatic, which has a long production track record and has been refined to be pretty good in recent years.
@foodtogo1 3 жыл бұрын
All you know is, GM isn't using the 10 speed in this vehicle. You have no idea why.
@thakiddmistic7610 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was gonna say the 99-03 honda/acura transmissions
@jbthestoner5504 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm medium/heavy duty trucks/equipment is usually made better. I like working on these better since the customers usually put a priority on whether or not their equipment can get the job done, rather than being comfortable for the operator. I have a lot of respect for yall auto mechanics out there, I dont have the patience to deal with the kind of issues yall run into.
@evanazbell 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a Chrysler 200 3 days ago then started watching your videos after.... i am already feeling the transmission hiccup.
@davidroberts2404 3 жыл бұрын
That and the 300 were and still are the largest pos cars Chrysler has made in years. I tow 5 at least every week. Transmission etc issues
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