Scrapping Stainless Steel - Identification Tips 304 vs 316

Scrapping Stainless Steel - Identification Tips 304 vs 316 - Scrap Metal Guide

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Stainless steel has always been a bit confusing when scrapping metal for money, so here's a scrap metal guide to explain why identifying stainless is so inconsistant, and everything you actually can test for to help know what bin it belongs in. 304 vs stainless, magnetic vs ferritic, it's all right here.
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@sharkscrapper 3 жыл бұрын

A very good stainless discussion. Well presented with just enough geekiness. 😂🤣 Important to NOT confuse ferritic and frenetic.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Lol! Scrapping can get frenetic sometimes 😆

@gregscoolclips9134 3 жыл бұрын

Bro I love these informative vids.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@chrism-qk8jm 5 күн бұрын

Hate when asked to like and never do, but w your play dough foresight you get my thumbs up

@mollynakamori 3 жыл бұрын

"Quantum McMagical!" Love it. I have always been flummoxed by how something made of iron and nickel isn't magnetic. Thanks for sorting that out, Thub! These just get better and better.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea what I was getting into when I decided to do this one this week lol.

@mollynakamori 3 жыл бұрын

@@thubprint - Here's a thought: force your all too humble self to set up Patreon, and you can do the detailed geeky stuff so many of us love to your heart's content!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

😆I’ve been thinking about it, it just feels so weird to ask for more when the likes/comments/shares are what I’m already asking for ykno? But I’m going back to the alleys soon, at least until I think of more good topics 👌

@yardmine 3 жыл бұрын

Great information my dude. Love the dry sense of humor and comedic timing.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I had some fun with this one 😊

@Mlacaps 3 жыл бұрын

Another excellent informative video. These style videos are priceless to us out here.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

And they’re so fun to make!

@RHYGAR1 Жыл бұрын

thanks my Brother.you have no idea how much this video, and all your other videos have taught me...

@bud_smokinzie 3 жыл бұрын

Love you Thub! Scrappers for life!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

4lyyyyfe haha! I don’t think there will ever be a day I see a piece of copper and think anything other than “cha-ching!”

@ethanstroyan622 3 жыл бұрын

This is some great info. Unfortunately most scrap yards don’t buy metal as stainless unless it’s nonmagnetic. Or they buy it as less because they have to analyze each piece

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s cool to know but at the end of the day they’ll probably just put the non magnetic in the tin shred

@geofft3214 3 жыл бұрын

Cool! Have a shiny day!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Oh you too good buddy 😋

@freedomforall1602 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information

@jackhartfelder8049 3 жыл бұрын

Love these videos. Thanks

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

And I love making them! This one went a bit out of my depth, but I enjoyed learning new things ✌️

@SollersSrappingandDiving 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool info for a micro scrapping woman like me! Awesome, thank you 🙂👍

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah!

@michaelsilva7085 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks!

@bucketstwoohsixkness2466 3 жыл бұрын

Hay bro bro keep up the great work your videos are very informative and much appreciated thank u much love and respect

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!! I’m doing my best, and really enjoying these style vids

@richunclejoey2249 Жыл бұрын

Monel, 17/4, hast a, hast b, c Monel, 210, 304, 316, 516, HT, don't forget ones with titanium and cobalt alloys. So many types of stainless. I unfortunately work with stainless all day. It's a heavy SOB. Cheers

@jaredwix5454 3 жыл бұрын

Was wondering about the magnet test . cool

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was gonna be a lot simpler than that lol

@nomadsteve5297 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you have answered my question

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Researching for this one was pretty fun.

@kevink.2719 3 жыл бұрын

Great video

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@superjonboy873 3 жыл бұрын

As a fellow (occasional) scrapper, I may not be quite the Man of Steel you are, but Your videos are Super!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

😆 thank you!

@seanl.7088 3 жыл бұрын

great video!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was worried it might be TMI, but I wondered about it for years so... there it is! The real answer! 😁

@riverboat28 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for all your videos bro. Addicting personalities suck.

@ScoutsIX3 3 жыл бұрын

I usually just stick to the easy to ID copper, brass, and aluminum because stainless is so variable XD great video though, very informative and easy to understand!

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was doing the same, but the stainless really is good money. You might not find it all the time but if you just keep a bin of the non-magnetic stuff it’s easy to sell and the price and weight are great.

@chrisbolen9357 2 жыл бұрын

the scrapyard i work at has an XRF analyzer. very neat tool to use

@thubprint 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I owned one, but they sure ain’t cheap!

@vthelastrun3290 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro for the video! i actually come a lot of stailess steel items specialy kichen sinks and its good price for them about 4 or 5 GBP each

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I love the sinks, they’re one of the easiest sources of decent scrap money 👍

@helfarkmar5043 3 жыл бұрын

keep up the good vids :)

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@gussuperman7565 3 жыл бұрын

M8 that was an educational video , thank you. Althougj 400 series which is severely magnetic type of stainless used in cutlery , knives or bowls, etc is not considered 304 ss , so there is a gap in your presentation . You may want to inform that to your viewers. I applaud your efforts and hard work that shows you care for the inviroment , cheers m8. Your star trek shirt is a cool sign of a good man. Keep up the good work. God bless.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out! I have only encountered a little 400 series, I thought I remembered it being a light pull but that makes sense. I would have liked to have a lot of material to use as examples but I’ve been keeping the space as cleared out as I can.

@gussuperman7565 3 жыл бұрын

@@thubprint M8 you're my Canadian hero ay

@ScrapRushUK 3 жыл бұрын

Fan from the uk, love your vids so good for new starters in scrapping. Where did the term pandas come from?

@livvyweimar7362 3 жыл бұрын

It's short for Trash Pandas which is something we call raccoons because they are always digging in our curbside trash bins.

@vthelastrun3290 3 жыл бұрын

Hello thubprint i wanted to ask you in your opinion what items is worth taking apart to make the most of your money, i been scraping for couple months now found a house hold boiler once took it apart and made about 25 GBP (35 USD) worth of brass and copper was very suprised actually, but other items im not sure if it worth a time to take it apart coz i rather coutinue driving to find more scrap metal than wasting my time to take something apart for a full hour and only make 5 dollars out of it. I got 3,5 t van and im collecting everything thats metal hope you can give me couple tips here thanks.

@zartan7779 3 жыл бұрын

My yard only buys non magnetic stainless steel , other wise goes in light iron pile

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

As with most, unfortunately.

@benjaminarmstrong7047 2 жыл бұрын

I went through this today at my "very" local scrap yard. A big old piece of restaurant equipment was magnetic so instead of 50 cents a pound it's 8.5 cents a pound. I get that they need a way for them to train a worker in 5 minutes or less how to sort metals, so I'll look around for a yard that's more fine tuned.

@thubprint 2 жыл бұрын

Ooo, yeah I’ve found most of them are just like that, only buy things as stainless if it’s nonmagnetic. Honestly stainless can be such a pain but I hold out and drive around until I find someone who will properly identify it. I recently had a couple hundred pounds of 410, most yards only offered 12c/lb even after they identified the 12% chromium with an electron gun. Eventually one of them agreed to buy it for the 304 price, but I’d be stuck if I didn’t have a few different places nearby

@ProjectShopFl 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. The scrap yard I go to has one of those metal guns, some are like $30k. lol

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Mine too! I’d love to have one for use in videos but that just doesn’t seem like a valuable investment at my level lol

@dca1004 3 жыл бұрын

Great informative video do a video about aluminum or copper next.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I actually started with those ones! Aluminium: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ob1ndqV01d6Zfac.html Copper: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbh0hrChx9HJm40.html I think I’ve gotten better at making videos lately but these are still solid 👌

@marcrochefort4483 3 жыл бұрын

Is that why on a stainless steel sink, where they had to bend it at the drain, it turns from non mag. to magnetic? I always cut it out to avoid the dreaded dirty stainless price. Because of the bend?

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! The scrap value remains but because it was cold-formed into that shape the crystal structure has altered into a magnetic form.

@TheUltimateRecycler 3 жыл бұрын

Impressive presentation Thub! I still reckon you need a white lab coat for these type of vids! 😉😂

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Aw, but I like my reverse-star trek covvies! 😆

@TheUltimateRecycler 3 жыл бұрын

@@thubprint 🤣🤣

@twbishop Жыл бұрын

@3:24 @5:47 @6:13 to diversify matters more, nickel is magnetic, like iron. chromium is not. the percentages of nickel and chromium are variable @3:49 (but i believe have specified ratios in 304 and 316).

@vinecat8451 3 жыл бұрын

A shame there isn’t an easy way to ID (that’s cheap), but so many thanks for the informative vid dude!!😁

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

It is a pain but ultimately it doesn’t make a difference if the scrapyard is only buying it as 304/316/plain steel right? Was interesting to learn what’s going on with it though

@DavidGS66 2 жыл бұрын

Stainless USUALLY is slightly magnetic, so if you tie a magnet to a string, it will stick to most stainless steel. Al & pot metal are 100% non magnetic, so good way to separate Al, stainless, & pot metal because stainless & pot metal is both very dense. A lot of sink parts mimic stainless. Scratching will reveal yellow brass & hammering will reveal brittle die cast because stainless is very tough when hammered.

@simplyme8753 3 жыл бұрын

In 1919 Elwood Haynes patented martensitic stainless steel in my home town in Indiana

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Cool!

@laurabennettyoutube 3 жыл бұрын

The background music is very nice.

@thesolevlogger6363 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching for years and I wanted to comment on your most recent video what is that black and red suit you wear and where would I find one in the northeast u.s. love the content keep it up

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Well thanks for saying hi! That’s definitely my most worn piece of clothing, I don’t know exactly where someone would get one because I found it at a thrift shop. It’s just a simple mechanics jumpsuit though, it’s not a particularly high quality one.

@tiggidyty 3 жыл бұрын

I don't see that boogie, nice job editing.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

😂🤣 thx bud

@davidrosaschi342 3 жыл бұрын

Hey so I am doing my capstone on the chemistry behind metallurgy, and was wondering if you could send me some of the sources you used to do your research for this video?

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could, but I don’t really have a list of sources 😅 I googled the heck out of it for days and compared manufacturers websites, research papers, Wikipedia, forums and youtube vids to confirm some things and explore others. It wasn’t exactly true to the scientific method!

@NeryElsalvador Жыл бұрын

Gracias 🫂

@alyssacatanese7222 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea what turbine blades are made of ,the king that comes out of the big mills.i heard it has a high priced metal mixed with a magnetic metal to keep it from breaking and shattering

@thubprint 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting… I assume it has to be lightweight to minimize resistance, so if not aluminium like in an air conditioner, maybe titanium?

@vanshgrover4614 16 күн бұрын

Spark test between 304 and 316 steel

@vinecat8451 3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna be honest, I’m a total metallurgy geek and I’d honestly LOVE a vid of the quantum mcmagic sciency stuffs😂

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I was happy to skim over that part because it took so much time already to digest the massive amount of info out there on steel types and crystal structures 😅 It was pretty cool to research, but I have a lot to learn about energy levels etc before I could digest it all and explain it in a fun and simple way!

@newsweathertraffic18 25 күн бұрын

So basically scrap yards only buy 304 and 316 (The non-magnetic alloys) right? I brought about 20lbs of forks and knives stamped "Stainless Steel" to my local yard and they told me weren't stainless because they were magnetic, when I got home it occurred to me that most SS is magnetic. Looking at their website I'm pretty sure they only buy 304 or 316.

@florinbalan5153 3 жыл бұрын

I work in a naval shipyard and almost every day i work with ss and common grades i use is 316l and 304 ss from round pipes ,angle bars to 40 mm sheet . Even the weldability and grinding of witch tipe of ss is different .i know it from the sparks

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’ve learned too, the sparks actually tell you everything once you know what to look for. I just didn’t have examples and to be honest I don’t have the experience yet either.

@williammickle9947 3 жыл бұрын

I need a +1 cloak of poison resistance for when I do the thing with fermented grapes.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

😆

@JasonBristow2003 3 жыл бұрын

I found a 40 LB piece of stamped 316 stainless steel c channel that had been cut up and welded together. The welds are non magnetic. Do the welds make it stainless breakage? Thanks.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

It would depend on what your yard says ofc but the welds will be such a small overall percentage there should be a yard somewhere who buys it as 316. The welds will always be magnetic, that’s normal.

@florinbalan5153 3 жыл бұрын

Nope if the welds are made with fluxedcorre wire they mandatory must be as the same with welded pices .if the ss is 316 the wire must be the same.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

@@florinbalan5153 huh.. that’s why I love these videos, I learn so much more than I would on my own! Thanks for adding that 👍

@JasonBristow2003 3 жыл бұрын

@@florinbalan5153 Thanks. I had never scrapped a piece of stainless with welds on it before. Your explanation was a great help.

@florinbalan5153 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@BBBA_ Жыл бұрын

Bicycle spokes are sometimes made of SS.

@eba44 3 жыл бұрын

The glasses make your brain look bigger... (LOL) Thanks for the info. Now I know how to handle to amazing modern bathroom hardware-- and the pile of stainless knives.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🤓 I’ve been really surprised with how much I’ve made from stainless, it adds up really quickly for me

@mehowshorts 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@SharilIrene Жыл бұрын

What would “stellite” be categorized as and does it have any scrap value?

@ff7sephiroth333 Жыл бұрын

Stellite is a cobalt alloy that is worth good money. Sell it to a yard with a handheld xrf that will pay you fair value.

@thebestmatthewschannel 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there do you remember Evanston? That garage sail you came to? With that family that one little boy if you remember was me! I think you brought us glasses for the solar eclipse Idk about that one tho but you gave us stickers which i might still have i hope you remember!!

@thebestmatthewschannel 3 жыл бұрын

Also you bought a wii off us lol

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

@@thebestmatthewschannel I absolutely remember! 😎✌️ that was quite an unusual day, and it was really fun to meet you all! Hope your family has been well despite the weird year 💙

@thebestmatthewschannel 3 жыл бұрын

@@thubprint we have been well we moved from there and are enjoying the new year so far it was so cool to meet you guys in person I wish you the best of luck in life

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

@@thebestmatthewschannel that’s so kind of you, you too!! 😊

@muriaticacid7004 3 жыл бұрын

Thumbs Up

@jerryjennyc5352 3 жыл бұрын

Hey thub

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Hiya!

@dr.a006 3 жыл бұрын

If I can shake the magnet off easily or it doesn’t stick at all, it’s all stainless for my yard. They don’t sort that. Even screws that don’t stick or they shake off the magnet easily all go on the same bin. It’s heavy and adds up quicker than aluminum for the same volume and price. The ferrous or stronger magnetic type they give me tin prices.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think that’s how most yards would treat it as well. It was interesting to me to explore though 😊

@pkneeyahx 3 жыл бұрын

Thubprint... Check out the latest cbc marketplace video about car recall fails. At 16:09 in the video they interview a guy from Edmonton. Is that your neighbourhood? It looks familiar to one of the neighbourhoods that you trash pick in. Just an observation.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not in Edmonton, but it’s close enough I’ve thought about doing some picking there!

@donvergasmotola8123 2 жыл бұрын

Bro How can I know the difference between difference between dirtyaluminum or I breastaluminum From Nikle

@jamestravers9864 2 жыл бұрын

Do scrap yards test for 316 stainless? Or do they just mark it all as 304?

@jamestravers9864 Жыл бұрын

@Pickle since I posted this I’ve taken one item in as 316 stainless, it was right before the big drop off and stainless was still over 50c lb. It was a very large industrial cooking table and it weighed 932 on the scale. Almost 500 dollar pay day for a cooking table that I tried to resell during Covid and nobody wanted it.

@jamestravers9864 Жыл бұрын

@Pickle kinda hurt me because the table was worth 20,000 brand new but Atleast I got half a months rent out of it

@absolute___zero Жыл бұрын

@@jamestravers9864 congratulations, you have given 3500 USD of pure chromium and nickel for 500 dollars, almost 7 times less than it is worth at trading exchanges

@julieb.2868 3 жыл бұрын

The BBC needs to hire you for reporting

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I have been really enjoying this style of video, maybe I should give them a call? 😄

@shaystern2453 2 жыл бұрын

now it's more confusing

@cdcVintage 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy! You got me hooked. I didn't understand a thing you said. But you could make a video eating a bag of cheetos and I would still watch. Going to share this with my 3 facebook friends LMAOOOOO. 👍

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

I will not make an eating cheetos video but I appreciate the sentiment! 😆 thanks buddy 👍

@paulcoenen7918 3 жыл бұрын

I would just like to be able to tell then sheet aluminum from thin sheet stainless without firing up a grinder in my apartment.

@dr.a006 3 жыл бұрын

If it’s thinner stuff, I’ve found aluminum is easy to cut a notch into with wire cutters and it’s lighter. Stainless is super hard to cut or tear with snips. I’ve had to double check with a grinder sometimes though.

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just try to scratch it with a key or something brass. Softer than steel but harder than aluminium.

@margaritagalarza3233 3 жыл бұрын

well well how are you? LONG TIE NO SEE

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh I’ve been here the whole time 😊

@moisesbeltran2612 Ай бұрын

How much to scrap a Tesla Cyber truck?

@thubprint Ай бұрын

How Much is a Scrapped Cybertruck Worth in Scrap Metal? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obqGoJB0m9nIhKM.html

@timtima724 10 ай бұрын

thank i think i got scammed scrapping today, had 700+ pounds of stainless, only got a quarter a pound

@thubprint 10 ай бұрын

Maybe, I’m not sure what your yard usually pays but they may have downgraded it if it was lots of dirty pieces? Hard to say

@danieljohnson8855 3 жыл бұрын

When are you going back to scrapings

@auderitepenguin9350 3 жыл бұрын

he will probably go back to scrapping when its not so cold out as well as i assume when he gets rid of that car that takes up a bit of space

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Yep! I honestly wish I was out there while it’s still cold, it’s fun when everything is crispy. But my plan is to clear off the biggest projects (the car being the main one, which is nearly done) and also finish my list of these videos so I can exclusively do scrapping/treasure hunting. The plan is to hit that point before February is over 👍

@riverboat28 5 ай бұрын

Scrap yards are pissed off at you. Good!

@livvyweimar7362 3 жыл бұрын

Not quantum mechanics...but I love quantum mechanics. I'm so sad now 😭😭😭

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

QM is super cool but it would be difficult for me to explain it easily and quickly haha! I’m fairly sure what affects magnetism in ferritic vs austenitic is quantum mechanical in nature though, because it’s not simply about the number of electrons but how they change in energy levels and shells.

@vincedibona4687 3 жыл бұрын

+1 poison resistant Classic.

@pkneeyahx 3 жыл бұрын

I hit my scrapyard today and was SHOCKED at the price of copper. $3.50/lb for bare bright. I was expecting $3.20. wow... Time to strip my hoard. See you in a couple of days. Lol

@thubprint 3 жыл бұрын

Fr? I didn’t realize it was so decent right now!

@pkneeyahx 3 жыл бұрын

@@thubprint yes.. everything is up. I go to Cash for Trash here in Ottawa. They always have competitive prices in this area. Copper #1 still at 3.50. Brass = $1.85.