Screen Reader Basics: NVDA -- A11ycasts #09

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Read the "Using NVDA to Evaluate Web Accessibility" article: goo.gl/eGPDp
Watch the "Testing for Accessibility with the NVDA Screen Reader on Windows" video on Egghead.io: goo.gl/Umv8UX
If you're on a Windows machine and would like to get started with screen readers, NVDA is a great option. The project is open source and funded by donations (please consider giving if you actually end up using it for work!). Today on the show I'll cover the basics of navigating a page with NVDA, and share some useful keyboard shortcuts to make you more efficient. If you've had a nagging feeling like maybe your site could use better accessibility, but you haven't known where to start with screen readers, check out today's episode!
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@makkienai Жыл бұрын

I hated it at first cause of the fast robotic voice, but now i come to learn how to adjust the speed and the voice itself too to something more easier to listen to .. i love it now and am very happy i kept trying and didnt give up i get to use my pc again like i use to before i lost eye sight.

@sh-tlcpl Жыл бұрын

I'm just getting started with using NVDA for my work to test web accessibility. I thought it would have more of its own tutorial to learn, hence why I'm learning on KZfaq. How all did you learn how to use yours to adjust the speed and voice for NVDA if you don't mind sharing your learned knowledge?

@makkienai Жыл бұрын

@@sh-tlcpl hello, a quick way to change voice and speaking rate is hold down ctrl + insert key and use your cursor keys left or right to select the setting and then up or down to change the value , the insert key is thenvda modifier key, i have that setting changed in the nvda settings to caplocks key that seems a lot easier . Greets Mak :)

@detonex1080 4 жыл бұрын

how to make nvda read texts with direct links followed by links and highlighted words not pausing anymore?

@sloyit3267 11 ай бұрын

Is it possible in NVDA to turn off keyboard key presses? So that only what is on the pages themselves or on the desktop is voiced.

@herminwilson5186 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. This can help some students with disabilities. Kingston, Jamaica

@raniamus1 4 жыл бұрын

How would a screen reader read a matching exercise in an online course?

@JT-qw1cn 10 ай бұрын

Is there a setting I can use to turn off reading what my mouse hovers over? I only downloaded this to read pdf files and paragraph blocks.

@Claudia-qg6dm 4 жыл бұрын

I can't listen to the books opened in Adobe digital edition. Nvda reads only paragraphs or single words. Why is it no longer possible to set a continuous reading, which continue until the interrupt command? Why is it not possible to do this anymore? The alternative would be to unlock the book, turn it into txt and read it, but I prefer not doing this. Thanks

@maggieblyth2077 Жыл бұрын

Any advice on how software to read from a printed page of paper?

@lamboiah 2 жыл бұрын

I like this but realize that one's capacity to navigate seems to require sight of the page layout to know what keys to engage to engage the content. Is there option for a feature that speaks the page layout on load so the sight challenged person can then know where to begin? Or did I miss that :)

@MrAnuj90 4 жыл бұрын

I have a mobile applications , At some page in our app we have cards, Cards itself is clickable and have some buttons and clickable elements also. if we make card role="button" then we can not select any element inside the card, any other role to card will not make card clickable . Can this type of functionality is achievable via accessebilty. any pointers for this would be of great help.

@ashauke 3 жыл бұрын

That's an anti pattern. Do the links inside the card go to the same location as clicking on the card? If so, use a pseudo element on the link that takes up the whole card to make it clickable. Don't go changing roles or placing links within links/buttons

@ms.kaufman9488 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful. thanks

@genatroce Жыл бұрын

I dont know why my NVDA doesnt read some texts, I need to manually switch modes. Also shortcuts doesnt work (like arrows or H)

@devinhuhta7629 2 жыл бұрын

Could you make a video on closing tabs and navigating the Internet

@borisb5289 3 жыл бұрын

Hey folks. Do you know what is that mean: "validating a ~ 9 WCAG guidelines web page page" ?

@izlanrivojlanresearchdevelop 4 жыл бұрын

How can I make a program like NVDA Help me guys; Give me advice

@staceyrogers1733 3 жыл бұрын

My father inlaw has tasked me with researching this program. He is completing blind and wanted to know if this program would work for him. Question 2 what type of computer would be recommended and the windows version.

@umbertosmith7014 3 жыл бұрын

You don't need a super powerful machine but you will need a good amount of RAM so be sure to have 8 gigs or more, other than that any basic computer should work okay. You don't need lot's of memory for the program, it's just always better to have extra ram running windows. There is no need to go out and buy a new machine to do this. Good luck.

@manuelpineda9067 Ай бұрын

This vides are excellent!

@michellel1383 5 жыл бұрын

I know this sounds like a stupid question, but how do you get NVDA to read the content? All I can get it to do is navigate and read headings and links. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to read through the content of a website.

@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 4 жыл бұрын

Use speech viewer you can get content what nvda is narrating

@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 4 жыл бұрын

H foe headings l for links in nvda

@VisionForwardTechConnect 3 жыл бұрын

Once you get to a heading you're interested in, use the down arrow to read the content beneath it

@zenabkhan9804 5 жыл бұрын

very helpful! is there a similar video for JAWS?

@BlindLibrary 5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Jaws for Windows's very own license says you're not allowed to use the demonstration (40-minute) edition for web accessibility/testing of any kind. Plus, that's a hell of a price tag. $995 just to buy, then a mandatory $200 per year for the Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)? I kinda think not... NVDA from NVAccess: 1 JFW from Vispero: 0

@alessio11087 4 жыл бұрын

Good morning, i am using nvda and it works very good in all apps but does not work well in google chrome, in firefox or edge it is ok. Why this problems? Thank you very much

@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 4 жыл бұрын

Mostly nvda use for edge and chrome, jaws for firefox and chrome

@alessio11087 4 жыл бұрын

@@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 After many months using nvda i have understood how to use this wonderful program. I started using it like a visually impaired, using it with the magnifier, now i use it with the keyboard and it is very useful. Thanks very much with the community that realized this project

@umbertosmith7014 3 жыл бұрын

@@alessio11087 Please make a video explaining the program if you can. I am trying to help my client out. I am very interested in learning how to use these programs.

@pieteb_nl 2 жыл бұрын

Tried NVDA. IT seems to react on anything I do, typing a letter, moving my mouse... but NOT when browsing a webpage haha. When I'm on a site, it says nothing. When I press H, it simply says "H".

@ahmedhany6789 Жыл бұрын

Have you solved this issue?

@waylee264 5 жыл бұрын

i love NVDA 😊

@AlvarLagerlof 7 жыл бұрын

Google! Help them with the voice!

@BlindLibrary 5 жыл бұрын

They can't. That is an open-source speech engine called ESpeak. He was strictly using default as default settings can get.

@mohak1990y 4 жыл бұрын

What option or alternative do we have for MACbook?

@soprano550 4 жыл бұрын

VoiceOver.

@mohak1990y 4 жыл бұрын

@@soprano550 no. It doesn't read text on bottom arriw

@ShawnWelkerVideos 3 жыл бұрын

@@mohak1990y That would be a site accessibility issue, then. Not necessarily a problem with VoiceOver.

@mykeyialowe9638 6 жыл бұрын

You use him I use Anna I am learning how to use nada without my computer screen on because of my vision impairment

@tugberkayar5786 5 жыл бұрын

Is there a good screen reader for linux?

@BlindLibrary 5 жыл бұрын

Orca comes included out of the box. I can't testify to how well it works for having not used Linux so you're on your onw there. If for some wacky reason your screen or video card corrupted, you can hold down the Super key, than tap the letter s, then let go of the Super key. The voice is going to be fairly foreign to you if you've never heard it; As per someone like me, I'm totally used to it. It's a stand-alone open-source synthesizer called ESpeak. It in its own right can be bent and insanely contorted to sound very wacky ways. I was on a TeamTalk voice chat server with a few friends; Out of nowhere, one of them fires up NVDA and has ESpeak redone to sound like it's a fake Southern voice, complete with the ing sounding like in'! 7 swans a-swimmin', anyone?

@liftylu 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video, but one thing that would probably be really useful to know is how to get to icons on the desktop using NVDA.

@stomperhk9107 2 жыл бұрын

What you mean? Turn the icons accessible by landmarking it/giving it a accessible name?

@chandlerzhu9735 2 жыл бұрын

If you want to 'click' an icon on your desktop with keyboard, press the key that corresponds to the first letter of the icon, for example, if I want to click 'Blender' I can press 'b', if there are multiple icons starts with letter b it will cycle through them, I hope this is helpful

@seNiaaa1990 2 жыл бұрын

Stopping NVDA talking does not work with pressing caps clock. Am I doing something wrong?

@ProjectorPeople Жыл бұрын

default NVDA key is 'insert' - you can assign the caps lock key when you first start the program

@yogeshkad6928 4 жыл бұрын

Anybody tail mi how to idit mujick audio half of n v d athank you

@chriscormier1660 3 жыл бұрын

not sure if this was the default nvda voice back in the day, but NVDA doesn't sound like this today.

@StyledJavaScript 7 жыл бұрын

Why does it sound such... Robotic? Could an author use Web Speech API or... Microsoft Zira, hmm.

@sKopheK 7 жыл бұрын

yeah, combine voice from M$ Win's built-in Narrator and NVDA functionality please :) EDIT: under Windows, you can change synthesizer settings in the program to MS Speech API or even download addons for more options

@ThomasKnott 7 жыл бұрын

Good Parts NVDA supports tons of different voices. from what I get from the literature and my experience with people that use such software the "robotic" has the main advantage to speed it up once you are used to it.

@sparkleshyguy85 6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Knott Yeah, when we use screen readers (I’m legally blind, so I can speak from personal experience) we get rather capable at figuring out what the screen reader is trying to say. You learn the quirks, of them and adjust, laugh at some of the amusing mispronunciations, I’ve recently started speeding up my screen reader more (I happen to be on an iPad using VoiceOver, but these sorts of things become fairly universal. At this point I usually have to slow it down if I want someone who’s not a screen reader user quite a lot. But yes, the more robotic voices in scren readers tend to be more intelligible at higher speeds because of the way they tend to emphasise syllables and sounds, which really helps when running at some of the really insane speeds. The Microsoft voices are rather nice though.

@BlindLibrary 5 жыл бұрын

The only real "bad" thing is that NVDA truly dows not support the business apps most professionals need you to use on a regular basis. Microsoft Office may be one thing. but for other, say, development environments where you're writing code/drawing controls, NVDA kinda wasn't meant for that. Plus, a lot of businesses don't like using open-source software; it gives them the impression we're cheating to get their work done.

@Matt92Machine 3 жыл бұрын

@@BlindLibrary Which is why JAWS exists and why a license costs an arm and a leg.

@radwayounis4953 4 жыл бұрын

how to activate focus mode in nvda

@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 4 жыл бұрын

Insert+space at a time or esc key

@MyBlindZone 4 жыл бұрын

Nvda is way better than jaws... nice vid👍🏻

@Underhills 3 жыл бұрын

How do I delete this thing? There's no way to uninstall from Windows or anything. What a nightmare.

@Matt92Machine 3 жыл бұрын

You sure you're not talking about the windows narrator? That can't be uninstalled because it comes with windows, NVDA can be uninstalled just like any other program.

@davidmaxwaterman 3 жыл бұрын

It works like vi - yeah!

@HedgehogStudios1 4 жыл бұрын

Currently learning jaws for work and school but I'll probably learn nvda so I can buy a laptop. I doubt I'll get another free license and there's no way I'm paying for jaws myself.

@waylee264 4 жыл бұрын

jaws is too expensive. love nvda 😉

@kylechellino2579 4 жыл бұрын

Jaws is annoying! Hey guys! You should check out jaws for windows is a murderer! It is so funny.

@clausskovcaspersen2667 4 жыл бұрын

in denmark Jaws cost about 2400 dollars and 500 dollars pr. upgrade

@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 4 жыл бұрын

@@clausskovcaspersen2667 free versions also their nvda jaws

@Matt92Machine 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Jaws is way too expensive, NVDA can do pretty much everything Jaws can and it's free.

@mode9622 2 жыл бұрын

I can't belive that a chrome KZfaq channel is using an other browser.

@theZINGcollection 7 жыл бұрын

I only have a question. Why Firefox?

@letswatchrob 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry forgot to explain that! According to the web aim survey on screen reader usage (webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/) NVDA is most commonly used with Firefox.

@minionslayer 6 жыл бұрын

As a person who has low-vision, I use NVDA from entertainment to work and everything in between. NVDA actually works well, if not better than it does with Firefox! NVDA even performs faster with Chrome!

@mykeyialowe9638 6 жыл бұрын

Nvda

@BlindLibrary 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's right? Non, Visual, Desktop, Access.