Great video guys...Never seen a mooring video on the Tube before...Well done!

Manistee Michigan here... It's cold Windy ... But it's nice to watch the videos warm in the house....

That area seems to be the generally recognized mooring zone. The harbormaster has moored his boat there the last few years (I could see it with the yellow sail cover in the background). If you are able to rig secure holding, it should work out fine. I would keep your daggerboards and rudders pulled up when you are away from the boat if it's not too much trouble. The occasional storm out of the northwest can send some substantial wave action into that corner of the lake and create a 2-3 foot surge into there. You'll want to have adequate draft under your hull if that happens.

Hi from another northern Michigander. Thanks for the inspiration!

50 mins south here! Was cool watching latest episode of Onboard Lifestyle and noticed a glimpse of you at the boat show get together this past fall.

This s so interesting how this is done. Thank you for educating us. Crazy to think they take out massive blocks of cement accross ice, smart but super crazy.

Great episode! Comments for the algorithm!

I think you're the only utube show Doing the great Lakes!!! Which should really take off Your next journey has begun My hat is off to the both of you Since watching you way back when you looking to buy your first boat. As always Great Show Denny from Minnesota

I hope those moorings work out for you. Interesting to see the different types. It must also be great to have your boat on your own land. 😊

That was interesting to watch. Good job with the underwater camera set up. My mooring is an old train wheel. 👍

Good to see you back. At home, boat in the yard and the mooring anchors in place. Well done!!

That was one of the more bananas sailing KZfaq videos I have ever seen. I say that with 1000% ❤️. I can’t wait for you guys to launch your new trimaran and go rocketing across the lake! 🤗⛵️👍

Auger anchors are great. Used them in the Florida keys for storms. Best anchor ever for shallows. Good workout too.

Thanks for sharing this I learned alot

It's good to see you folks back on the channel. Yes, having you vessel in your back yard is a big plus . I did the same and mine hauled 120 miles for the very same reasons you did . Yard fees, travel to and from lack of comfort of not having a shower, meals a rack to sleep in and yes a shop to work out of . Good choice . Looking forward to see your progress. Take care . Angus SV Violet Walters

I did a very similar thing with a small (1400lbs) monohull in a lake in MN. We were only there for 10 days, but I wanted something better than an anchor. I had 2 sand screws - same concept, but only about 3' long with a much smaller auger. I also used a secondary pair of dog leash screws, the kind you can get a Walmart that only go in about a foot. These I tied to the bigger screws hoping to keep them from winding out. The bottom was pretty soft sand, but I also needed a pretty big lever arm to wind them all the way in. I also used about 20' of chain on each and set them at an angle to each other so the load would be shared. I was in about 5' of water and did not have the cool underwater breather gizmo - very handy! We had a massive storm of over 60mph (and from the wrong direction) one night, and I was worried that it might all come undone. When I dove on it the next day, the sand screws were pulled at a angle, but had not come out. The tri has a LOT more windage area than a mono, but is relatively light for it's length. It's going to bob and yank on the screw, which is why I think a length of pretty heavy chain would help act as a shock absorber. Maybe that's in next week's video already!

We have a 44' motor vessel which we regularly beach on a sandbar located in the Mississippi river. For that we have taken that style of helical anchor, heated it up and bent it to 90 degrees about 2/3 of the way up the pole. This provides the leverage necessary to put the anchor in and out without the extra pole. We use two of these, and from the video I'd guess they're the next size down from your smaller anchor. One anchor goes upstream to the beach, the other goes downstream to the beach, and the anchor rode comes to the aft of the vessel and holds it against the sand bar. The holding power of these anchors is insane and I'm not worried even a little about your situation here. In ~30 years we've only had one incident where an anchor pulled out, and it was in a storm that registered a brief but staggering 65-knot straight-line gust that caught the tall motor yacht directly on the beam; and even then I'm convinced we only pulled out because the area had been recently dredged and the sand wasn't as tightly packed as normal.

Brilliant I was thinking of these a few months ago for secure ways of locking your boat under water when your on land. I have 27 helico piles under my house because i live on long beach island in NY. Basically a an sand bar of long island, Its great to peeps thinking on the same path ;-)

For what 1 data point is worth: I have my 16 catamaran on a 4 foot helix mooring, in mud. It went in pretty easily, but no issues in 3 years with pulling out. Of course, not having that fancy rig for breathing, I had to wait for low tide and walk out and screw it in.

You made a good choice/ decision with the helical anchorage system, it utilized the shear capacity of the soil combined with the cone of soil above the flight, In SoCal we've used similar multi flight systems for masonry wall bracing for loads exceeding 10K. Was concerned with the manual auger procedure, as we usually utilize a hydraulic motor driven unit off a skid steer. Have seen commercial installations using a boom mounted pontoon boat with a diver assisting the Kelley Bar connection. Only comment on the installation would be the possible addition of cement/ sand rip rap bags around the anchor to resist and winter storm scouring of the bottom adjacent to anchors. As you're in fresh water, the bags are just placed around the anchor underwater and the bio-degradable paper dissolves leaving the mesh bag not filled with concrete. You can wait one season to determine/ confirm your storm exposure. Fair winds for next season of sailing.

Cant wait till you start on your boat. Great video guys.

Was glad to see you guys back. Very excited to see what is in store for the new boat.❤

I enjoy seeing your new videos! Great work on your mooring!

Nice job. It is exciting riding along with you 3.😊

Strong work. I am sure it will hold just fine!

Great video !! We love you guys !! Keep the videos coming !!

I miss youse guys, See you have a new boat. Looking forward to you next post. The rug rat is getting big, make a good sailer. Gramps

Thanks for the video, the variety of content is great, looking forward to you using and improving the new boat

Absolutely amazing. I never knew how that was accomplished. You guys are great as always! Thanks...

Great video stay safe .

i use a gas ouger to put them in for mobel homes every 5 feet. love your blog since day one .AJ East,Texas

That was a fun little video! I had the interesting experience of setting a couple of those in about 35’ of water. Took an 80cu/ft scuba tank from 3000 psi to 500 psi in 12 minutes, and there was two of us setting each screw 😂

Hard to say from the video how deep the water is right there, but having installed no less than 10 of these types of mooring anchors in the past I can tell you the best method. Build a wooden stand with 4x4 corners supported on the diagonals with 2x4s and a plywood top and a small hole in the middle of the plywood. Turn it upside down and it generally should float (if not, assist with Styrofoam or life jackets). When you get to your location, turn it right-side up and it will sink down to the lakebed. It's okay if your platform is slightly under the waters surface, just make sure when you stand on it, you are no more than knee deep in the water while on the platform. Drop your anchor down through the hole in the middle and have two people stand on top of the platform. Because your anchor doesn't reach the surface, you create one pipe with a "J" welded on the end of it. Insert this into the eye of your anchor and then attach your horizontal leverage pipe at the top. Walk in circles until the eye of your anchor is almost flush with the lakebed. The "J" pipe is best to be expandable, and the best way to do that is with threaded rod sections. Making this comment 50% through the video, so I'm sure you eventually got it done, but just in case you ever have to do it again, this is the way. Edit: I see you got it screwed in with little to no problems. If there were any clay or hard packed ground, it would have been impossible to screw it in while swimming or even with a dive belt on. Edit: Looking forward to the next video to see what your ground tackle setup looks like. I do have concerns with there being two anchors in the ground. My mooring, (even with the swivels, etc) gets fouled up sometimes on its own anchor eye. So with any other anchor eye in the ground within reach of the chain drag, it will 100% get fouled up on another eye protruding from the floor. I like the idea of a backup, but I wouldn't want my chain wrapping around a solid point in the bed and removing the ability of the chain to rise up and sink down while reducing potential shock loads (which is why you have extra chain in the first place). I'm certainly not a know it all, and I know you both have put a lot of thought into this, but I'm just mentioning some points purely as devils advocate. Thanks for the videos. I always look forward to them coming out.

Progress and in the right direction.

The "what could go wrong" face at 7:16...we've all been there.

Thank you

That went better being submerged than I expected. Congrats! You didn't even have to load your pockets with rocks.

Ground screws are also a good solution for house foundations.

interesting to see a bit of a different, yet still sailing related vid :P haven't seen a lot of channels put in a mooring anchor yet xP if you ever need to do this again (or do any other work under water with your small compressor) I would suggest taking a few KGs of diving lead. Even a bit of weight is already going to make it tons easier to stay under water, which is going to mean less exertion needed to stay stable, meaning more stable breathing, which means that you'll get a lot more dive time on a battery. (as well as just being a bit more comfortable underwater xP)

And for sure I thought you would get 6" in and hit bedrock. At least that is how it would have went for me. I hope this is not too far away from your property so that when the first storm rolls in you can quickly get there and keep an eye on things.

One local YC has a deal with a nearby commuter railroad. When they change the wheels and axle, which are all one piece, the YC gets the axle set for scrap value. The cut off one wheel, or put a ring on it, and drop the other wheel into the mud, just like one damn heavy mushroom anchor. No failures after hundreds of the have been used. Just damned heavy to lift! And once they settle in, they don't pull out.

I sail Lake Michigan out of Muskegon. Will be following you. My nephew is near Suttons Bay with a house on the bay. He wants to get a small sailboat and might establish a mooring at his home. I'll share your vid with him.

I used one of those in my backyard for my dog. It took him roughly 15 minutes to tear it out of the ground. My dog is a beagle. Good luck.

Hi from Petoskey! Love following you guys! We have been following for years! Keep up the good work. If you ever see RedSky out there in Lake Michigan, wave to us! :)

You could benefit from adding 100' feet of heavy chain between the anchor and the boat's anchor rope. This will provide additional resistance and act as a shock absorber for heavy beating seas. This would not eliminate the need to place a shock absorber at the boat. You also chose anchor sizing above the "recommended" size. This is smart. Your area of the world can get some nasty storms. BTW, I didn't think you had a chance screwing the mechanism in by hand. You must be a beast. Haha. Good job.

I couldn't agree more....I'm done with boat yards. I bought a precision 21,which I can trailer w/ my Toyota Tacoma. Presently sailing the Everglades and Fla keys.

I can't be the only one being like "Wait, I can just drop my own mooring somewhere?!"

Remove the small screw anchor. Get a large(?) concrete anchor block and connect it with about 25' of chain ahead (into the prevailing wind). Off the drop and in the silt is fine. Connect your mooting ball here. Strong waves will have to lift the weight before pulling on the screw anchor.

I swear I saw you guys getting on Interstate 81 Southbound in Tully NY last Wednesday. Little podunk town. 15 miles south of Syracuse NY. Seemed a weird spot for you to be. Spitting image of Chip and your new boat if not.

Wondered what lake you ended up on and this video gave it away by the background. This lake as you probably know gets huge waves when the storms roll in, my sisters sea wall made up of 2000# slabs of stone got tossed like little toys, she is on the north side of the SP. Good luck.

I set a helical mooring off Camano Island in 20' of water, all on breath holds. Screwed 5' into the bottom it only took about 5-6 dives. Key is to stand on the bottom with a long lever instead of trying to swim the lever around. There is something really bizarre about standing on the bottom screwing in a giant corkscrew.

You could extend that with a piece of pipe with a hole and a bolt in it on each end. That would let you sink it as far as you need to hit solid ground. Pipe could also be used the same way to be able to put it in the ground from the boat, standing on the boat twisting the pipe sticking out of the water. At that point you could also borrow someones gas engine handheld post hole auger an shoot the thing in the ground in seconds. I would let you barrow mine but its a bit far of a drive. lol

Was there any kind of permitting required there for adding a new mooring? Glad it turned out well for you guys. Interesting video.

Another glorious video! Stellar production quality, as usual. :) ...So, are you 'allowed' to just put up a mooring ball anywhere? Just that lake or in most bodies of water? ***ponders dropping my own mooring ball in San Diego bay ***

Just a silly thought could you tamp the ground around the anchor.? Maybe solid the hold

Thanks a lot for this hard underwater work testimony. Are there any regulations to comply with to set up such a mooring? Will you have to pay something to use it? Here in France things are much more complicated ...

So very clever using that screw in mooring anchor! Can we assume this will only be used during the “summer season” when you will be sailing the most?

Great job Fam! Which of the Great Lakes are you planning for this summer?

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What lake are you in? I hope if you show up to St.Ignace, we can meet up! We are there all season! Sailing vessel Kanani!! (Susan and Theo)

I guess there are no current in a lake but it is possible that a trimaran may track in the wind differently than a monohull

Slowly coming together, guys. Mooring seems to be settling. Onto the next thing.

Moral to this story. Don't buy fixers. Buy ready to go.

Watching your video. I followed you guys through the first boat and excited to see what you do with this one! We are in Chicago, so it's fun to see what you're doing in Michigan. I love that you have a free mooring. I'm curious what the laws are around installing a mooring in lake Michigan. Are you permitted to do this wherever you like or is this somehow a designated area? If so, why is it not part of a harbor?

I have a nice blue/white mooring buoy that I picked up a few years ago, but I don't really have any use for it, and it's just been sitting in my pole barn. I'd be happy to give it to you if it's something you could use. I'm just a bit south of you, near the infamous town of South Haven, but a drive up north sounds like a pleasant day to me. Just let me know if you could use it!

I think a weight belt would help to keep you down in the water...

Did you try to backdown on that mooring with the boat you had to see how the mooring anchor held?

You two are both looking fit and trim. Your wife especially per she recently had your baby. Been watching you guys since San Diego. Keep having fun! Timmy C Arizona

Why not an extension on the end of the shank and work above the water? Good work getting them in.

I am surprised that you were not wearing dive fins. Could you weld the short one to the end of the long one?

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We are in Traverse City, mi and grew up sailing around Charlevoix, what area are you in Michigan, maybe we will bump into you.

I would've been tempted to cast a big heavy concrete block, with maybe six pcs of 12'' long stainless steel 'angle-iron' sticking out of it - or somethng similar - and carry it out hanging between yr hulls, & drop it. Last time I made a mooring in mud, I dropped a big car engine down. It never moved.

Why are you not using your fins when screwing in the achors?

Can you just drop a mooring in a lake where you like or do you need a permit or something?

No cameo for Renata?

Lake Charlevoix, Mi (East Jordan)?

1st good wind storm and that boat is on the beach. Hook the powerboat up to your mooring eye and pull. Better to find out now.

Do you need special permits or permission to put in a moring ball

Is this a common method in that area??

What town are you in

Why are you not wearing fins? So much more leverage...

And you aren't wearing fins... WHY?

Sorry, Concrete isn't 30% water. The weight of concrete in water is reduced by the weight of the water it displaces.

Should this aspect of boating be that hard??? 🤔

The worst part of Sailing Soulianis? Being caught up so you can't binge-watch 10 episodes a night. First world problems!

Omg. So many mistakes. Shorter screw should have been in shallower water up from primary. Should have got longer screws. Should have been a foot apart with a metal bar shackled to both screws so prevents either crew from unturning. Then a swivel on the metal bar so morning line doesn't twist. Ugh!

This is the classic example of overthinking something. Totally overthinking every aspect. I did like the video though.

I don't think that screw is going to work, the sand loses most of its weight beneath the water. Imagine a cylinder of sand on top of the screw, it would be extremely heavy on land, but under water it may weigh like 1/3 or less, so the boat can pull it out. I would swim around there and find some old chunk of steel, maybe an old piece of equipment, and then loop a cable around that. Do a test on your screw before trusting it with your boat, it probably won't work.

Uh, I would never trust such new Methods, especially on such ground. Hope really you can sleep at night.

Who controls the mooring field; you just can't drop a permanent mooring willy nilly any place?

Cannot see this is safe for a family with small children. I’ve had two kids so have experience. Either get a proper comfortable/ safe boat or wait till your kids are grown up. Youre tying to do this on a cheap budget at the Expense of safety. It’s obvious you have money from many avenues so why be so tight, at the expense of safety? Children are precious, money is worthless in comparison.

What happend to your sailing dream ? You both never went anywhere and now sell your boat to live in Michigan ? Or mabey the wife made the decision for you because it's familly time now but at the same time you want that income so sail 3 months out of the year ? To me as a viewer this started with promise and bang no more sailing around the ocean going through the lock's or at least the Caribbean ! After 2 years it became boring Soulianis now this show is nothing soulianis...

Why is this even called a sailing channel anymore???? It is pretty much a hobby for them!!!

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