Brake Caliper Slider Pin Grease - Which is Best ?

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27 күн бұрын

Which type of grease is the best for brake caliper slider pins ? (also called slide pins or guide pins). Most greases will work in the short term for slider pin lubrication but, over time, petroleum based greases can swell up or destroy any rubber components. If the rubber dust boots break down, dirt and debris can contaminate the grease and cause the pin to seize up. Some caliper slider pins have rubber sleeves which can swell up and cause the pin to seize in the bore. Other greases are safe with rubber components but do not have a high enough temperature rating. Because the brakes can generate a lot of heat, you need a grease that will remain fluid in extreme heat but will not dry up. In this video I only mention a few of the greases that are available and I know there will be disagreements about which ones are suitable for slider pins. I'm not claiming to be an authority on the subject, but there are certain brake greases available that are specifically designed for use with caliper slider pins, and the general consensus I find is that high temperature silicone-based greases are more suited to the job than petroleum-based ones. If you have any questions about using any particular grease on your brakes, you should contact your local garage or mechanic and confirm it with them. Thanks for watching. Please comment, like and subscribe !.
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Caliper Slide Pin Grease
Lithium Grease
Red Rubber Grease
Silicone Grease
Copper Grease
Silicone Ceramic Grease

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@boris100ish
@boris100ish 24 күн бұрын
At last a definitive guide to slider pin lubrication. So many people give the wrong advice regarding the most suitable lube. Thanks for taking the time to film. All the best Pete 👍
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 24 күн бұрын
You're very welcome, thanks for watching !
@mastertech8306
@mastertech8306 16 күн бұрын
What a nice relaxing video. Love the background noise from the animals lol.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@diytwoincollege7079
@diytwoincollege7079 14 күн бұрын
I’ve never used copper grease on the pins, only silicone . But I have used the copper anti-sieze on all of the bolts and where the wheel and rotor meet. It works great there
@nitrofreakmanho
@nitrofreakmanho 5 күн бұрын
Excellent video, simple and straight to the point with no fluff!👍
@davide0radice
@davide0radice 24 күн бұрын
Finally a definitive video on the topic. We needed it! Just yesterday I followed your tutorial on the 206 to check the brakes and grease the components. For the sliding pins I used silicone grease. Based on this video, I realize it's a 6/10 solution. Silicone-ceramic grease is a 10/10 solution. As always, thank you very much. You are a light in the darkness.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@dirtyjobs3995
@dirtyjobs3995 24 күн бұрын
Yesterday before seeing this video I used what I’ve always used anti-seize compound, never seems to last to the next brake job, time to change
@danielbennett2573
@danielbennett2573 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I always wondered what to use for grease on calliper pins. The only problem I have. I wish the video had speech in it. Thanks again.
@seanmclaughlin7415
@seanmclaughlin7415 18 күн бұрын
The best stuff I have ever used came with a set of pads which I think were powerstop brake pads. That stuff was awesome!!!
@pigletshut
@pigletshut 20 күн бұрын
Toyota calls for that lithium soap based grease where metal meets rubber. Haven't an idea what that is until I found out through a TSB that Toyota sells exactly the thing: Toyota Rubber Grease. Bought a tube of this pink stuff for myself. Much more expensive than the Permatex green brake lube I use mostly for back of brake pads and drum hardware.
@Bubba-1
@Bubba-1 24 күн бұрын
I used syl glide for years until i started having issues with bushings swelling. Switched to the permatex ceramic orange stuff which has been much better
@colfergusson4242
@colfergusson4242 22 күн бұрын
Been using for a while now, Bendix Ceramasil or Bosch Superfit with no issues at all, always have the ole Silcone pate to hand, great video 👍
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 22 күн бұрын
Thank you !
@khoadinh4120
@khoadinh4120 10 күн бұрын
I am trying out the Bendix ceramasil right now. I used other grease before and they just swollen the rubber and dried up. Can't wait to see this thing works.
@gtd65
@gtd65 24 күн бұрын
Excellent video. I'd heard that silicone paste/grease was the best option but it seems you have narrowed that down even further with the ceramic part.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@GARAGESXERO
@GARAGESXERO 23 күн бұрын
i like this upload i usually just grab the copper grease never had any problems with it, but i do have a load off ceramic silicone grease so i'll use that from now on 😂🎉
@toxmaster1
@toxmaster1 25 күн бұрын
You have a supply of grease for 3 lives :)
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 25 күн бұрын
LOL :)
@amarmot3635
@amarmot3635 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely outstanding video
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@chahidabdelmjid5653
@chahidabdelmjid5653 25 күн бұрын
Thank you
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 25 күн бұрын
You're welcome
@ADUSN
@ADUSN 14 күн бұрын
Great detailed video
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 13 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@endurofan9854
@endurofan9854 4 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing bro, luckily i've only got access to silicon based grease, but cant afford that high quality one, so at most i just have to repack again sometime to be safe
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@KHIJAPAN
@KHIJAPAN 24 күн бұрын
I knew about it and using them for years. All of them for different applications. What i was missing, is the temperature range of each lubricant. Thanks!
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 24 күн бұрын
You're welcome !
@pataleno
@pataleno 22 күн бұрын
Been using Red Rubber grease on Pins. Will change now when it runs out.
@zerarimohamed6390
@zerarimohamed6390 11 күн бұрын
Thank you, nice vidéo, we can understand easily.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@recklesslyarrogant7242
@recklesslyarrogant7242 25 күн бұрын
Great video ! You e helped me a lot. Thank you
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 25 күн бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for watching !
@Mr2004MCSS
@Mr2004MCSS 13 күн бұрын
The orange silicone ceramic grease is what I use. I've not had any issues with it.
@cransaftvalve734
@cransaftvalve734 17 күн бұрын
Fantastic video.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 17 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jameslewis1175
@jameslewis1175 16 күн бұрын
The ceramic greases are thicker and since I have went to str8 silicon lube I haven't had to warranty a single set of pads for brake squeal
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 9 күн бұрын
Like an axle grease, it is thicker when cold (room temp) When it heats up under normal use it flows. Just like how axle grease becomes oil like. Your problem was not cleaning out the bores of incompatible greases. This mixture will cause the ceramic grease to break down in about 500 miles. You should be cleaning the old grease out anyway. It's a workmanship issue, not a product issue.
@anthonysempervive3261
@anthonysempervive3261 16 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support Anthony !. I really appreciate it 👍👍
@johnbelwell2461
@johnbelwell2461 24 күн бұрын
Any grease will work when you make changing pin boots occasionally a habit. This is something people neglect the whole time. I've used blue high temp grease, ordinary blonde grease, etc, it only went south when i had the rubbers look okay and soon dry and fall off into pieces making the pins rust and caliper not retract causing the brakes need an overhaul, just because i said it's okay to keep the old rubbers.
@Willenium2k4
@Willenium2k4 21 күн бұрын
In my experience, silicone should be avoided for metal to metal contact. Not entirely sure what the science is behind it, but it causes severe galling and seizure. In contrast to your findings, I've had great results with red rubber grease. I recently replaced two wheel bearings on my car, and while I was in there I decided to check on my brake parts that I last looked at around 43000 miles ago. The red rubber grease was still looking fresh, so I bolted it all back together and all is well :)
@StrongerThanBigfoot
@StrongerThanBigfoot 19 күн бұрын
What brand of red rubber grease do you use?
@jackrussel853
@jackrussel853 24 күн бұрын
I've had this conversation with my mechanic friends and they all use copper grease on brake sliders, have serviced their customers cars for many years without issue, likewise i have owned my car for fourteen years, have had the brakes cleaned/serviced by them quite a few times with no discernable wear, they are all in their 40's so were probably using it before some of the more modern lubricants were available.
@ricebike
@ricebike 9 күн бұрын
The main thing is cleaning and re lubing the pins as a maintenance process, especially in the rust belt I do it annually to keep them moving freely 👍
@DanielDroegeShow
@DanielDroegeShow 22 күн бұрын
Great video, but which one taste the best?
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 22 күн бұрын
Thanks, the red rubber grease certainly looks the yummiest lol
@rlmartin1988
@rlmartin1988 20 күн бұрын
Video idea for you. Place the caliper in the oven at 500F for an hour or so to assess the viscosity of the pin grease. Does it somewhat flow within the bore? Thx.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 20 күн бұрын
The missus said no way ! lol
@1188clean
@1188clean 9 күн бұрын
What about crc synthetic? It's a red bottle, black grease
@carstencroessmann
@carstencroessmann 14 күн бұрын
Is it only me, or does the both cans on the end, Mission Autmotive Dielectric Grease and Permatex look 100% the same even the stamp with the serial number looks identical. One of them produces for the other. Greetings from Germany
@neff1182
@neff1182 12 күн бұрын
thanks
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 12 күн бұрын
You're welcome !
@1McMurdoSilver
@1McMurdoSilver 22 күн бұрын
Thanks.. Had to go out to the garage and check what I use. Permatex Ceramic Extreme
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@ranger178
@ranger178 20 күн бұрын
many people say not to use the purple Permatex on slide pins it dries out and sticks it is not silicone based.
@user-dj1le5rj8y
@user-dj1le5rj8y 24 күн бұрын
I use ATE plastilube.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 24 күн бұрын
According to their website that's suitable for caliper slide pins
@andyg5004
@andyg5004 19 күн бұрын
For Japanese cars use Niglube RM or Toyota rubber grease
@ronsandt1025
@ronsandt1025 20 күн бұрын
Non of the above. Sylglide been using it for 30years and no problems.
@ricebike
@ricebike 9 күн бұрын
Syl... Same compound as silicone or the di electric grease that was featured on this video 🤔 I switched over to the bottle of silicone since it can be used for other applications as well And that bottle will last me years with my fleet of 12 cars👍
@paulas2610
@paulas2610 9 күн бұрын
All silicone grease is dielectric 😢The correct grease is silicone grease end of
@Shesh_5
@Shesh_5 25 күн бұрын
Can i use top 1 synthetic hi temp grease in caliper pins?
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 24 күн бұрын
My advice would be to use a high temp silicone grease, ideally one designed for use on caliper slider pins.
@thestorytelleruk
@thestorytelleruk 22 күн бұрын
Which is better, silicone grease or ceramic grease? I have both.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 21 күн бұрын
The ceramic is the better grease, as long as it's actually brake grease.
@ranger178
@ranger178 20 күн бұрын
the best is silicone with ceramic permatex purple ceramic is not good for slide pins it dries out not silicone based
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 20 күн бұрын
I guess I’ll throw out the Vicks Vapo Rub I bought on sale. It was great for my sinuses though. 😢
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 20 күн бұрын
lol, your brakes might not work but they'll breathe easy...
@dustin3700
@dustin3700 22 күн бұрын
The single biggest mistake is not replacing the pins and boots once either is worn they both fail causing irreversible damage to the bore and ruining the caliper bracket. Once any rust is on a pin sliding surface or in the pin bore it’s junk and not worth reusing. Never had an issue with silicone on pins but I always check them when the wheels come off especially when a new set of brake are over $800 just for parts.
@garyt.8745
@garyt.8745 16 күн бұрын
Copper anti-sieze grease is perfectly inert as far as rubber and plastic is concerned. It has no detrimental effects on brake components whatsoever.
@joewontwice
@joewontwice 12 күн бұрын
What's the best brake and caliper grease?
@ricebike
@ricebike 9 күн бұрын
For the sliding pins... Silicone grease
@Mrs-NWA
@Mrs-NWA 11 күн бұрын
If Lithium grease is unsuitable why do manufacturers such as Toyota recommend a lithium soap based grease for slider pins in their service manuals?
@ponytrishpip
@ponytrishpip 22 күн бұрын
The only grease to use is the brake grease. Made specifically for the job and able to work in all conditions. Silicone grease does tend to thicken and loose its ability to work as a grease as it ages. Copper grease is not a lubricant it is just an anti seize and should never be used to lubricate anything.
@solo6965
@solo6965 25 күн бұрын
I use blue color grease
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 25 күн бұрын
Which one ?
@solo6965
@solo6965 25 күн бұрын
@@screwsnutsandbolts top formula 1 hi-temp grease & toyo brake caliper grease
@charvakkarpe
@charvakkarpe 18 күн бұрын
Why wouldn't you just write this up as an article instead of a video so we can read at our own pace?
@fabio40
@fabio40 19 күн бұрын
Is it me or is there no sound with this?
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 18 күн бұрын
There's an ambient outdoor sound in the background
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym 24 күн бұрын
That which not degradation rubber because demaged rubber is agresive for this metal and degradation rubber not sealing this part. its not be a silicon because silicone greas dry in hot condition
@JasonSager-mv3us
@JasonSager-mv3us 19 күн бұрын
Some background music would have been nice.
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 18 күн бұрын
I prefer the ambient outdoor sound in the background :)
@DS-ss7vl
@DS-ss7vl 23 күн бұрын
Permatex purple is really good too.
@zmanvideo1
@zmanvideo1 22 күн бұрын
It turns sticky and guey after a short while, I just had to clean out my front and rear caliper slide pins from this grease, currently I am preparing a video to upload my experiences about this type of grease.
@sjcrw
@sjcrw 21 күн бұрын
do not use it. yes, it works, but only. I used it on pads, thinking they say it's better, I've been using the copper/silver stuff for longest time, purple doesn't not quiet the brakes, it actually corrodes the shims. I switched back to copper. those purple and orange stuff will slide and so on, but they do not help with rust. as for slider pins? sil-glide is the way to go! I got some silicone brake grease, put them on, they killed the rubber at one end of the slider pin, completely swollen it up. went to the dealership, the guy laughed, and gave me some sil glide for free. problem is most people will put those stuff on and forget about it till 3 yrs later, by that time, either it's so badly rusted, they have to change everything, or thinking something else went wrong. I got lucky on slider pin, cuz I was changing something on the brake side, and decide to take a look, then found out the caliper cannot move. the purple stuff, that car I drove only during summer, and it's a sports car, so 1 yr, 2000kms, then rust build ups. most people won't even look. sometime you just have to learn from mistakes.
@billy2bob63
@billy2bob63 18 күн бұрын
You left the best grease out of your testing 🙄🤣😂🤣
@racekar80
@racekar80 20 күн бұрын
Permatex makes a purple grease that’s specifically made for pins, even better than the orange stuff.
@ranger178
@ranger178 20 күн бұрын
that is the grease people are saying is not good for slide pins that it dries out and becomes sticky in hot conditions causing the pins to stick
@aroon3276
@aroon3276 20 күн бұрын
i strongly disagree with your red rubber grease verdict. Red rubber grease is designed for the brake caliper pins and pistons. ive used it for years and never once has it dired out even with heavy braking.
@GrandePunto8V
@GrandePunto8V 25 күн бұрын
Copper grease has no use and should be banned from automotive workshops. Period. Don't answer/argue.
@1marcelfilms
@1marcelfilms 24 күн бұрын
Why
@GARAGESXERO
@GARAGESXERO 23 күн бұрын
i've used it plenty times and had no issues
@user-kq1fz2cm4f
@user-kq1fz2cm4f 22 күн бұрын
Anti seize properties. Not as a lube.
@pataleno
@pataleno 22 күн бұрын
Many automotives workshops have never seen or used copper grease. These cowboy workshops should be banned not the grease. :)
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 22 күн бұрын
As a ships engineer we called it special seizing 😅 compound. - because it never worked
@mcqcjc8409
@mcqcjc8409 21 күн бұрын
Red rubber wont resist heat Mineral oil based will affect rubber boots I have seen some manufacturers calling for lithium soap based grease which can be mineral or synthetic Best bet is silicone grease cause it is non reactant to most of rubbers I guess some kind of non mineral high temperature synthetic grease might be good as well.
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