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Here we are with some of our best and most advanced military forces and technologies, yet *one goddamn corporation* almost beat us to a curb. What the fuck was Foreman-371's company, the Scrin version of Weyland-Yutani?!

​@@MrDibara Perhaps 😁

I think that was discontinued in a patch, unless you have a the game disc from 2007.

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 that patch ruined so much :/

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 I have the game disc, and the game manual.

@@chnghemeng2845 Weird. I know for a fact it's a feature of the base game. And yes patches fix things and they also can ruin things for other people. I never attacked Scrin Harvesters until I had all tech tiers unlocked.

It was removed in patch 1.05 in July 7th 2007. So yeah, super early.

Frankly, Scrins look like reskinned GDI/Nod using Protoss portal system for unit construction, walkers from War of the Worlds as their Avatar walker, while Storm Rider and Mothership just plain copying Independence Day movie but at least Scrin's base defense and heroic unit is just copying previous C&C instead of somebody else, so that's something to congratulate the team behind the design with. Let's be honest, C&C3 is not going to win any award for unit design innovation, you get more difference in gaming style between GLA and China in Generals where both factions are from the same planet... I am currently working on a mod that just removes Scrins completely, so GDI can have its energy shields again, while both Nod and GDI get back their plasma weapons among other things that differentiated them as long as it could be balanced and mostly already present in Tiberian Sun but taken away just to make the most generic alien faction ever put in the game with three factions where harvester of one faction have machinegun, other is stealthy while aliens have completely useless hovering harvester that is somehow not able to cross the water. Harvesters not even making sense for Scrins when their whole MCV can hover, so why the hell do they even need a harvester when they can have a hovering refinery instead? The only reasons I see why C&C 3 faction design ended up being so poor would be an attempt to succeed in eSports by making factions as similar as you can get away with in order to be easier to balance or/and insufficient time given to the development team as EA chasing most profit from least development time due to which on one hand they still exist and producing good stuff once in a while but also murdering previously good franchises like there is no tomorrow, though Westwood produced questionable quality stuff twice (C&C Renegade Battlefield like FPS, Earth and Beyond MMO) before EA likely lost patience with this studio and taken it apart, so you can argue who's fault was that...

Oh gods imagine if GDI and Nod both went into space faring as well, and you'd have to manage C&C style space battles. Mining tiberium asteroids instead for resources, and making things like fighters, bombers, larger warships, etc. while upgrading/extending a space station with additional solar/nuclear/tiberium generators and docking bays/drydocks

EA does care...about money...

@@shoulderpyro aahhh yess...please make it happen

@@shoulderpyro I've actually thought about that. I want Nod's aerospace chassis for their armada in a game like that to reflect the crustacean/insect-carapace of C&C 3. Maybe a flying warship that resembles the Hand of Nod.

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 And GDI can keep their Tiberian Sun esque designs for their craft. Hell, the Banshees of Nod already look spaceworthy. A few adjustments to the Orcas and we got those running too. And the Scrin? Eh.. well, their entire thing is already air/space based so they can even re-use some of their units. Like the Assault Carriers being used as smaller corvettes instead to harass smaller GDI/Nod vessels and screen the larger Scrin ships

CNC 4 never existed, wdym? Are you speaking GDI propaganda brother? C&C ended in Kane's Wrath, I really wish they made a follow-up, but alas the franchise died suddenly and no game ever came out of it ever again.

What CnC 4? They never make a worthy sequels of this wonderful game.

Touch what?

Still waiting for CNC 4. I didn't even know they had anounced it?

Hold up he does talk about the fourth game in the tiberium universe c&c 3 tiberium wars, in order its c&c, c&c tiberium sun, c&c renegade and then c&c3 tiberium wars the forth game in the series if there was any game after that it would be the 5th in the series.

As far as I know it has nothing to do with campaign or Tiberium: In the early versions of the game, every scrin harvester had this feature to give them "something interesting", like Nod stealth or GDI gun. In later versions of the game, like one of the earlier patches, it got removed.

@@Barragwin Shame, it was quite an interesting mechanic. Although it did slow down engagements and long ion storms tended to be capable of destroying light to medium vehicles.

@@kathydina3646 Yea, thats the reason why they removed it. Ionstorms had no counterplay and where devastating. If you wanted to kill a group of them, you had no choice but to sacrifice your army. Also the Scrin commander had then to constantly replace them. It was too punishing for both sides. So they replaced it with the tiberium regeneration. Like that, Scrin commanders had less to worry about there harvesters survivability and enemy commanders could attack them without automaticly killing there own troops.

@@Barragwin Yea, it was tib wars patch 1.05 that removed it. July 7th 2007.

yup that was an old patch, quite fun tho as it was my first exposure to the game, tbh tho got it from the begining so, I still should have the cd somewhere, now I want to play it again haha

Yeah, C&C4 was a decent enough game but it wasn't C&C... and when it failed due to that EA said C&C wasn't profitable. I forget if Tiberium was cancelled before or after C&C4 though.

We'd probably see the Scrin units that were gonna be in the Tiberium game before that was cancelled, but you're 100% right, there's so much potential with what the Scrin have in their military arsenal, seeing some of the mods for TW3 and KW that play with that idea just makes me love the C&C community

I imagine stuff like the Hexapod would probably be like a basic battle tank to the military Scrin. They undoubtedly have insane resources at their disposal.

They are more of a civilian contingent in that the units are more for Security detail for the mining operation as opposed to an actual invasion force. Since by the time the Mining Foreman shows up on a world the Tiberium should have rendered it basically uninhabitable to anything else. Though Civilian is still a bit of a misnomer I'd agree, but I think he was just emphasizing how it wasn't an actual proper invasion force at all.

"A Tripod is clearly not the Toyota truck of the Scrin" *Okay, you win the internet today,my guy/gal!* 🤣👌

Same can be said about the planetary invasion carrier and devastator battleship, they're clearly not industrial machines but war machines. Most of their military hardware including their ships was most likely military surplus; older military hardware that was phased out of usage by the regular military, thus was sold to this security force to recoup some of the cost.

Who'd want to get isekai'd by an Annihilator Tripod?...

@@louievelayo4100 And get reincarnated at a Ichor Hub... *as an Assimilator!* XD

Most likely George pal as they have an appendage that shoots a heat ray on their heads along with a shield

Personally, they were my FAVOURITE addition to the Tiberium timeline. I like how they're so aesthetically different, yet you could see how similar they could still operate compared to humans. Add in the fact the Scrin we see are just *one mining corporation team* and not really a military branch of their civilization and I DEARLY wanted to see more of them! Sadly, I no longer trust EA to do anything appropriate with them or anything C&C related again. (except maybe Remasters)

People didnt like them? They were the best part of the story.

They were ok, there wasnt too much of them in the story compared to gdi or nod. But it was really cool how the scrin campaign unlocks, i remember being very surprised about wtf is going on with my pc, why is menu moving without me...

they're hands down my favorite faction, even if it's just because gdi and nod feel a bit lacking in the air force department. then again, everything feels lacking when facing a couple of planetary assault carriers...

@@kxuydhj AND Devastators. _Don't forget those long range beauties._ ✋😌👌

indeed. using harvesters as a weapon against your enemy.

Was this a bug or a deliberate feature from an older version o the game?

@@AlexeiVoronin Feature. They would create small localized ion storms when destroyed if they were carrying tiberium (empty harvesters did not create the storms). It was removed in a patch.

@@ismaelsantos5378 Curious. I started playing C&C 3 a bit late (in 2015), so I only know the latest version, 1.09.

@@AlexeiVoronin yeah they patched it out early. Multiplayer balance reasons

Can u explain the ending of the game bec it never made sense to me

@@jawadsabih4979 I’m assuming you are referring to the ending on NODs mission chain in Kanye’s Wrath. The ending is very vague so I left it out of my main speculation but what it seems to imply is that LEGION (the improved version of CABAL) have been uploaded to the Scrin information/consciousness network, other then that is pretty much speculation. Maybe Kane have done this to try to saboteur the Scrin from inside, maybe it is to try to retain some Scrin connection to earth to motivate them to attack again, or maybe there is some completely different idea behind it. The sad part is that it was pretty clearly baiting a continuation which was intended to come in command and conquer 4… if you have never played that game, don’t bother trying to dig out copies of it… I bought it, tried it and man was it a disappointment… I can’t remember if it have some story to it, might try to see if I can find it and get it working or if I can find something about that online but it is not worth acquiring for the game-play aspects at least… I believe it was even some kind of reskin of another game or something like that, just a cash grab product…

@@derpionderpson1424 c&c 4 had a story but even with Kane's classic charisma it was a dumpster fire.

@@mwperk02 Yeah actually found some KZfaq compilations of the story scenes and they were very underwhelming... I wouldn't even say Kane's classic charisma was there, it was like they had created a completely new character and just given it Kanes looks... Bad story in a very bad follow up to a great series, such a sad end for that series...

@@derpionderpson1424 I found Kane to be the only passable character.

Question, I have the console version. How do I get the corruptor heal my scrin vehicles?

@@soulzsilver6197 A lobotomite question, don't know as the console version of CnC3 and red alert 3 are beyond inferior due to a hard cap on units and I only played the PC versions, but simple order your corrupter into an attack move or whatever turns your crosshair red.

@@Tucher97 aight then

@@soulzsilver6197 Again I apologize but I never touched the console version but what I hear, its that its hte worse of the worse versions, plus you have limited units, the AI does not.

@@Tucher97 I see I see

Eww you picked up a bot. Please have the trash bag ready.

C&C 4? They sadly never made a 4th game in any of the universes.

@@TheGamingDefinition that's a shame too a red alert 4 following red alert 3's timeline could of been fun.

*Please, do.*

I’m back

@@zach11241 💥 🔫😐

So long as GDI and Nod both exist humanity will not be able to unite.

Gun Walkers are possibly used to pick at tiberium crystals, located in higher areas like on ceilings of cave system or such areas where tiberium is higher elevated. Possibly much cheaper too, compared to using gravity stabilizers. This also makes them effective against infantry, since the focused plasma (beam or whatever) can land a potent strike on living things that aren’t metallic or in structures. This is a system of replies, this is part 1.

Seekers are fast vehicles that could’ve been used to scout for tiberium crystals located farther from a base. The disk launcher is likely used to do the same thing as would the gun walker, chip and pick at tiberium crystals. The hover part gives it a higher mobility advantage, allowing all-terrain movement better than a gun walker. The disk in question are also better at hitting harder at more durable areas, allowing the tracking of the disk to hit air targets easier and for hitting armor more effectively. Part 2

Corrupters serve the part as either clearing out biological matter in certain areas or to get through certain obstructions. The tiberium based concoction serves to ensure that obstacles could be melted away with ease, but as it’s name suggest, it’ll likely corrupt the area and cause living creature to become viseroids by mistake (maybe on purpose at times). The fluid is also capable for melting buildings as mentioned, and could very easily kill any living matter if not protected. Practically, the acid is meant to get rid of obstruction and melt things to find tiberium, but can kill anything else. Part 3 Update: The healing factor of Corruptors works at healing other Scrim ‘vehicles’ likely due to them being literally tiberium based organisms, meaning it’s literally patching up the damage with the concoction (the mix might contain some healing chemical that could make it so it heals them, but its absolutely toxic to everything that isn’t tiberium based).

The Devour could function in the sense that it could properly carve through most tough materials. The beam used by the ‘tanks’ can carve through possibly giant or big rocks that contain tiberium and might require more power. The ‘charging’ feature might be used incase it needs more power, depending on the strength of the materials it’s trying to carve through. The combat capability is the obvious range it has against vehicles or buildings with defenses, the beam can shread through vehicle armore or infrastructure with little to no effort, but the issue of no air defense gives it an issue. It is still a durable vehicle, so within that time support could come in when it’s in a pickle. Part 4

The Mechapede (apologies if spelled wrong) is like a jack-of-all-trades kind of ‘vehicle’, capable of being equipped with a variety of tools at its disposal depending on the situation and tools needed. Beams for carving, disk for picking, corrupter fluid for either clearing or repair, and shards (a complicated guess) are used to either clear hostile wildlife or as an actual weapon. The capability of combat for Mechapedes is likely meant for fast or blitzkriegs on the frontlines of a foe, since if the segments break or it’s freshly produced makes it versatile against in some combat situation. Of course, it’s worth noting that these weapons may have less power compared to the actual weapon. Part 5

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If humanity is lucky the request will be buried under alien bureaucratic shit for a long while yet.

Fire as the brotherhood took note of was not particularly effective against the large scrin vehicle or creatures. It was however able to incinerate smaller scrin very importantly buzzer swarms could be quickly engulfed where other traditionally armed troops could be overwhelmed quickly by the sheer number of them.

@@mwperk02 yeah from what I've seen Nod's incendiary weapons are still effective against scrin infantry and considering how much it loves to spam infantry you'll need fire.

We don't talk about C&C4 here.

Never heard of this c&c 4 you wouldn't happen to be from one of those other timelines caused by Einstein's Time Machine?

C@C4 never exist.

I heard that the story would've revolved around Earth having been conquered and enslaved by the Scrin _(clearly the Cult of Reaper were not involved)_ and our character's story arc in this new world. That setting sounds so fucking awesome! Imagine, both GDI and Nod, forced to serve the "Scrin Confederacy" _(someone once came up with the name and I loved it)_ and anything they develop and employ are observed by the Scrin and geared towards serving them, unless both factions wish to lose any protection guarantees for humanity. So both sides are under constant survaillance and even having their forces teleported to other worlds, either to simply help harvest Tiberium faster or to deal with the local lifeforms as expendable frontline forces. _Thus, naturally, they each secretly plot some way to be free of the Scrin's control through one way or another._ And your playable character, unbeknownst to himself, would eventually play a key part in helping that happen... or not. _But_ OF COURSE *_EA had to literally shoot down that very cool idea_*_ and instead aim for something_ not only generic, not only a downgrade (no Scrin), but also NOT WELL MADE AT ALL! And don't get me wrong, the giant walker mobile base is very cool, but it was used SO WRONG on top of everything that was... *that unspeakable title!* DX _SIGH... Remember when EA used to at least make good games, even after closing down studios like Westwood?_ *Those were the days...* T__T

@@MrDibara actually the story for tiberium was from what was released, first stage fight nod investigate the tower, scrin invasion starts, second stage retreat regroup, third stage fight back to the tower, fourth stage destroy/cripple the tower, the game was to be a mix of RTS FPS and was looking great, the footage is at least a decade old and still looks good today and they claimed the quality was crap, wen both the footage and campaign appeared great, good idea yours nonetheless, I just don't think it would fit the scrin doctrines.

@@MrDibara That's closer to the plot of C&C Arena and also Half Life.

I don't think I've seen the ai use them really and I mostly just play GDI to learn the ins and outs of their weapons to discover weaknesses for the brotherhood to exploit.

like a huge berb

Oh, you are also here...

I felt like i had a stroke trying to read that

Why are you writing like it’s middleages

@@magicalmagicmagician5223 you read the p/b things as th, it's an old English thing

Before anyone continues to reveal utter lack of reading comprehension skills, You read "þ" as "th".