Sea Doo Jet Ski Supercharger Failure Aftermath Part 1 of 4

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6 жыл бұрын

You've probably heard about the problems that can result when the ceramic washers in older Sea-Doo personal watercraft jetski superchargers fail. This video (series) will show you first-hand what can happen to your engine if you don't rebuild your older supercharger!
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@jeffburrus7283 4 жыл бұрын

The four videos in this series were invaluable during my tear down and rebuild (2005 RXT). Thank you so much for doing them and doing them so well.

@daveb7206 6 жыл бұрын

I wish this guy was my neighbor I would been buying him all the favorite beverages he wanted for a job and knowledge like this.!!! lol

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You're right. Chris has another job waiting for him when we get back from our families vacations. Another Yamaha is swallowing water.

@strichards5337 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely sadness but this is why I love 3ftDeep, the depth (no pun) and detail. That and I clearly need a cordless hammer still. GL and looking fwd to next vid.

@maxflight777 4 жыл бұрын

Crikey, those things are complicated! Well done for putting together the video ! I’ll make sure I stick to the service schedules for my wake pro 230.

@cfjunkie6917 4 жыл бұрын

Just had my 2017 rxp x 300 supercharger fail with 55 hours on it. Couldn't afford to have a shop fix it due to being laid off because of covid 19. Thanks to your channel I believe I can dig into it myself. Thank you.

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

That’s terrible! Those aren’t supposed to fail. Good luck with the project, and let us know how it goes.

@cfjunkie6917 4 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel wish I could show you a picture of it. It tore itself up pretty bad. I'm sure there's a lot of motor damage.

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a picture of it. You can email me at mario@3ftdeepsports.com, if you don't mind.

@andriysmerechanskyy8145 5 жыл бұрын

I just did a rebuild on my engine similar issue. Just can’t to start after a rebuild. It ran before I took it apart. Any ideas? Spark and fuel are there. It turns and all just wont start.

@matanipale4281 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! Very Professional.. I Wasn't even aware there was so many pieces to open lol

@ionracer3284 6 жыл бұрын

I dont know about ya'll, but i already forgot where everything went ...

@robertelmo7736 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter, just fork over the cash and you'll get a nice new assembly lol..poor guy.

@Gundy09 6 жыл бұрын

I have a broken crankshaft on the same motor so this is reassuring that the tear down steps are the same as what I did. Haha. Looking forward to the next few videos.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Coming soon ...

@IHadToMakeThisAccount 5 жыл бұрын

No wonder shop charge so much, so many many hours, plus that doesn’t even included parts. That doesn’t even include the liability or re using shit that “looked good” but failed 1 month after the repair.

@diesel_delph9764 6 жыл бұрын

I'm looking into the GP 1800s do they come apart like that too would I be better off with a natural aspirated engine

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Yamaha engines are a bit different than Sea-Doo engines. Your life will always be simpler with a normally aspirated engine. Check out one of our earlier videos where we tear into a Yamaha engine to see the difference. Thanks for your comment.

@TheArunasstanaitis 3 жыл бұрын

Hello , do you replaced oil cooler radiator or cleaned ? have almost same problem with engine . Thanks

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

No, we didn’t replace or clean it. Good luck with your repair.

@maxflight777 4 жыл бұрын

Sir, May I ask ... do you have any views on closed v open loop cooling ?

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer closed. We strongly believe that the 3 newer model Yamaha Waverunners that had engine cracks resulted from poor cooling. Sometimes we run our machines hard through shallow water that is relatively warm, and we think improper cooling caused the Yamaha engines to crack (all within 12 months!). None of the Sea-Doos had any problems running them the same way. Thanks for your comment.

@T-K--- 6 жыл бұрын

very intresting !

@biagiogiardina7480 2 жыл бұрын

Dear good afternoon. how many lbf. in- bolts of the exhaust manifold tightened? Thank you

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

80 lbf.in (inch pounds), and use blue (243) Loctite. Good luck.

@tctruck52 5 жыл бұрын

What's the best place to purchase parts from? Have to do this on a 2006 RXP i just bought and didn't realize how in depth my issue was. Rebuilt the supercharger (after failure) and ran it some more and had a second failure within hours. I'm guessing all have way more to replace based on two supercharger failures worth of metal going through the engine.

@3ftDeepChannel 5 жыл бұрын

We get most of our engine parts through SBT. We also check Amazon and eBay for the parts we need. Sea-Doo has parts diagrams for each machine so you can get the part numbers for your model there. Good luck!

@Hunter-kw8od 6 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for part 2 have a scarab jet boat twin 250 and the starboard supercharger blew up only 134hrs on the Engines BRP recommend rebuilding the supercharger at 200hrs which I was nowhere near the 200 hr mark anyways BRP system shows my vin has 3 year warranty but I bought at 3+2 year at the Toronto boat show

@nomadchad8243 6 жыл бұрын

do you have to remove the engine to change the washers? My dad has a 215 2014 with close to 200hrs on it. the manual says replace every 200hrs. Can this be done by a capable novice mechanic or do you need special tools and fixtures?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

We removed the engine because when the supercharger failed, it released metal parts into the engine and therefore needed repair. You can rebuild the supercharger by removing it from the engine. It's only attached with a few screws, but one of them is very difficult to get to, so needs a special tool (about $25) to access it with. We show you how to rebuild a supercharger on this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9-Rm7WSm8XXmXU.html. Good luck.

@bmxguy08 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. I got a 05 GTX that only has 32 hours on it. It sat for 12 years not used. Runs great. Im debating rebuilding the supercharger though because of the horror stories I hear.

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

If I were you I wouldn’t even start my machine without rebuilding the supercharger. We tore apart one guy’s engine that was destroyed because although he knew of the issues he “wanted to go on one more ride …” Don’t do it!

@bmxguy08 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I will order the stuff tonight to do it! I got till may to get it done. Any other common issues or upgrades I can do at the same time for a 05 GTX?

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

I would pull the pump, open up the plastic cone and check the grease for any oil intrusion. I’d also plan on replacing the grease. I’d also check the carbon ring. With that few hours it’s not likely to be too worn, but after rides check for water intrusion into the hull as the older ones would deform a bit over time and start leaking. If your model has the internal intercooler, you should know that they were known to leak over time. Check the oil for any water intrusion (milky appearance) right away. After your first (short) ride check the oil again for any sign of water. If so it could be your internal intercooler. Our “how to buy a used PWC” video may also help a bit. Good luck!

@bmxguy08 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel Thank you so much for the information!

@pacoyamomoto5427 4 жыл бұрын

Did you use new TTY bolts or do you reuse the ones you took out?

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

We never reuse stretch bolts, so we buy new ones whenever we take an engine apart. If you can find a service manual for your machine it'll show which ones to replace, and the torque specs. If you're using the same engine, we have another video elsewhere in our playlist that shows more detail. Good luck.

@nayefalkurahi3357 5 ай бұрын

should i buy a pair of 05-06 rxt supercharged with 240/280 hours with a flyboard included for around 6k ?? They look to be in good shape.. he said last time they serviced the superchargers was around 4yrs ago.. ?

@3ftDeepChannel 5 ай бұрын

Those machines are quite old. I wouldn’t recommend getting anything that old unless you’re a mechanic or have excellent mechanical skills. Repairs on those machines are quite expensive, and they could have a lot of issues that are not readily apparent (intercoolers leaking, head gaskets failing, etc.).

@hectorlaboy2706 6 жыл бұрын

Hey I what to upgrade my 215 to a 255 or 260 what do I need ??

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You'd need quite a bit. Probably new fuel injectors, impeller, external intercooler, etc. In our opinion it's not worth the expense and effort. If you need to upgrade, better to sell your machine and buy a new one.

@superioraudiosounds4045 5 жыл бұрын

Any suggestions on cleaning up a paper towel that ( Somehow) got left in the motor. Oil pressure is only hitting 30 when revving maybe 5 @ idle. Paper Towel debris in oil filter.

@3ftDeepChannel 5 жыл бұрын

Yikes. Debris has likely plugged the oil pump screen and oil filter. Gold standard would be to take the engine apart and thoroughly flush it. If it were me I would first replace the oil and oil filter and see what that does. Then remove and clean the oil pump screen and see how that helps. If that doesn’t fix it, time for a teardown. If it does fix it, I would still change the oil two three times with a cheap oil to flush it well. Good luck!

@superioraudiosounds4045 5 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel Thank You for the info So cleaning both screens it should be fine without flushing oil channels or complete break down I am hoping also paper towel shouldn't damage oil pumps correct? I was pretty mad when I realized what had happened, but time to fix it. Thanks again.

@superioraudiosounds4045 5 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel Also with supercharger clutches what cheap oil would be good to use ? thanks.

@michaelg9194 4 жыл бұрын

May I ask? Is there any way to take a supercharged 1503 ACE and tune it down to NA 1503? Or that requires fuel remap other then charger port block off. Secondly what is your opinion on WSM rebuild kits, they are about $100 less then OEM and come with steel clutch washers. Service mechanics will tell me no no they won't even touch the unit if it has aftermarket rebuild kit. I know metallurgy enough that slight difference in quality of steel multiplied by 40-50k RPM then converted to angular momentum on the shaft yeelds much higher numbers and less then perfect cristlatus of steal components under pressure and temperature can easily crack and come apart, but are third party SC kits truly that unreliable and risky or is it just an up sell tactic. I've changed an IAC valve to a third party brand for $40 while oem is $250 and so far it works just as good. I guess only time will tell but $40 vs $250 that is reasonable risk, while gamble on WSM SC kit is too risky so i ask your advice.

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't recommend trying to tune it down. As you suggest, there are a few tweaks to the engine system that would confound that sort of change. We've always used the OEM rebuild kits as we don't have the same level of confidence in non-OEM products ...especially when it comes to a supercharger that can spin up to 40,000 RPM. Considering how much damage a failed supercharger can cause, it's just not worth it. Good luck!

@wp4246 6 жыл бұрын

Any chance of a how to buy a new or used Sea-Doo?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. Great idea, thanks!

@guybrusht.8049 Жыл бұрын

From your movies (that are great) it seems that jetski's engine broke, is breaking now or it is going to break tommorow. I am thinking about buying a jetski - are there engines that don't break or is it just amount of work/money put into them (maintenance) or just luck?

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

In our experience, the Sea-Doo engines are very reliable and only break when the owners don’t take proper care of them. Yamaha engines, however, fail regularly due to cracked cylinder heads (SVHO models). If you want a “bullet-proof” engine that is unlikely to fail if taken proper care of, I’d get a naturally-aspirated Sea-Doo engine (i.e. 170 HP or less). Good luck and thanks for the kind words.

@margoderby 4 жыл бұрын

Considering a used 2019 Wake Pro 230 with 90 hours on it, but worried about potential damage from the supercharger that the previous owner didn’t know about - do you know anything about the durability of these newer supercharged engines, or if they require the same routine maintenance/rebuild the older versions did (i.e. every 100 hours)? Thanks!

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

The newer ones are a bit more robust so I doubt there has been any engine damage from a 2019 model. The dealers normally say to rebuild them every 200 hours or so, but we do ours at 150 hours, just to be safe. The kits are about USD $350, and expect about 3 hours labor. Jerry from Greenhulk.net used to rebuild them for about USD $80 labor (you supply the kit), so you might want to check his service out. On the Wake Pro check the oil filter for metal flakes, and the compression, too if you can. Good luck.

@margoderby 4 жыл бұрын

Ok will do! Thank you so, so much for all of the info! Take care!

@MikeZ32TT 6 жыл бұрын

Nice

@elanderos5 Жыл бұрын

Mine just went out and I have a feeling I will need this type of overhaul. Any rough idea what a job like this will cost me?

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

It's very expensive. Usually $2,500 CDN and up. Hopefully that's not your problem.

@supermrmotorhead7239 6 жыл бұрын

enough bolts in the timing cover?

@thediplomasta5891 2 жыл бұрын

Aluminum. Go figure. 🤣

@richieodonnell2712 6 жыл бұрын

Man, I wish I was mechanically knowledgable like this. Did you learn this over time, or are you a mechanic? I'm sure I can take it all apart, but would be terrified to try to put it all back together! I'd love to hear your background.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Learned over time. Chris is an electrician by trade, but a power sports enthusiast who's been working on his own cars, motorbikes and personal watercraft for decades.

@zackeryporio956 6 жыл бұрын

This looks like so much fun to take apart. I would just have no clue how to put it back together. lmfao

@mikecage5330 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I just wanted to ask a question so I have an 03 gtx supercharged and I can tell by other videos my supercharger doesn’t seem to make no where near as much noice as other do you know what can cause that I have rebuilt the supercharger and I don’t know what is going on. thanks

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

As long as you’ve got good boost, I wouldn’t worry about it. Just remember that they need rebuilding 350 to 200 hours, or so. Good luck.

@mikecage5330 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel is there a way I can check how much boost I should have or check for a boost leak

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

There is a system you can attach to your supercharger to measure it, but before you go there what top speed and RPM are you getting? How long does it take you to get to top speed?

@mikecage5330 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I get about 60-61 but my wear ring has some gap so that why I’m losing so top speed but I’m getting 7550 rpm

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

For a 2003 machine, it appears to be working normally. The rev limiter is actually set to 7200+/- 50 RPM, and if I recall the top speed is about right, too. If you want to maximize the performance of your machine, make sure your impeller is in great shape and your wear ring clearance is 1.0 mm or less. If your wear ring clearance is more than that you may get more power by replacing the wear ring. If your impeller is worn or damaged, it can be renewed at Impros. Good luck.

@DonziGT230 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a 215HP supercharged 2007 180 Challenger boat engine that has never been used. The guy bought it and never put it in the water, pretty good chance that I was the first to start the engine. Is there an immediate need to service the supercharger just because of the age?

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

Yes. I wouldn’t start up the engine until the supercharger is rebuilt. Good luck with your project.

@DonziGT230 Жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I've already run it, but only for a few minutes. What exactly fails from just the age?

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

The cage that holds the bearings and the ceramic washers, possibly.

@AadamTheBomb 6 жыл бұрын

lol cool video you can hear the drill dying little by little each bolt lol... ps damn thats alot of bolts

@rodrigo6990prelude 2 жыл бұрын

Where you located

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

White Rock, BC, Canada

@ridered7262 6 жыл бұрын

Ok so from a dirtbike guy I understand jet skis and how it's fun to ride them but damn guys look before you turn. Almost had 2 collisions with jet skis over weekend but I was paying attention watching them as they were not and decided to cut across right infront of me causing me to kill the power so we wouldn't hit and then look at me like it's my fault.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You've hit the nail on the head. Just yesterday at the lake I was talking about the dangers of these machines while the kids had them out on the lake. The number one threat is people "turning without looking". They're so maneuverable and fast you get into trouble in a split second. The other big problem is people not understanding that without a keel you need power to steer. When they see danger the first reaction is to let off the throttle, but then you lose your steering. Thanks for your comment.

@pushpushlambert8079 6 жыл бұрын

Wow ... Big job

@MikeFarowe 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2013 Seadoo RXT X 260 here in Michigan. It only has 45 hours on it should I have supercharger rebuilt?

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, good question. The ceramic washer issue had been resolved by 2013, but the question is regarding the bearings. They can be compromised over time and considering how fast your supercharger spins, small flaws can become big issues. If it were our machine and we were going to keep it, we would rebuild the supercharger. Also, make sure the intercooler is not leaking, as they can develop pinholes. Good luck!

@MikeFarowe 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I think I'll send mine in. About intercooler.... I wonder....The previous owner said intercooler was replaced last season. What do you mean sir by "Pinholes" should I be worried? Please respond!

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Some of the cooling fins inside the intercooler were known to leak water through small pinholes. The watery air would then be blown into the engine and mix with the oil. If yours was replaced last year, I wouldn’t worry about it. Always keep an eye out for water intrusion into the oil though, as this is good practice. Good luck with your new machine.

@MikeFarowe 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel Thank you! I will work on removing mine and sending it in.

@shiniquajones2812 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel how about 2007 intercoolers?

@ibrahimaniasse9070 6 жыл бұрын

hi I have a 2017 yamaha GP 1800 with only 21h, a friend of mine suggested that I should put 2 stroke oil in the gas tank to help lubricate the engine, supposedly it helps the engine last longer. My friend said he has been doing for years on his multiple pwcs. What do you guys think?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

I would not do that.

@ibrahimaniasse9070 6 жыл бұрын

3ftDeep copy that By the way I was thinking of adding a stage one plus kit from rivaracing which consist of small mods like reflashing the ECU, cool air intake sponsons etc. However I am concerned with the longevity effect of boosting the engine? And Will I notice a significant difference in the performance?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

My feeling is as long as you're not increasing the maximum revs in your modifications, you're usually safe. By flashing your ECU, etc., however, you may void your warranty. So something to think about with newer machines. Also, some mods give you very little performance boost relative to the cost. In some machines you can get an extra 5 mph or so by overriding the speed limiter. As SCOMs are only a few hundred dollars, I think that's one of the best bangs for your buck. Good luck.

@ibrahimaniasse9070 6 жыл бұрын

thanks for the insight

@Yippynutsmacker 6 жыл бұрын

Are the 2018 gtx 300 prone to the same issues?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

No. They stopped using the ceramic washers around 2007/08. In fact, the 300s have a much "beefier" supercharger, which BRP claims doesn't need servicing at all. But we'll see.

@Yippynutsmacker 6 жыл бұрын

3ftDeep how does the yamaha 1800 compare in reliability?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

I'd say they're about the same.

@marty906 4 жыл бұрын

Can't Seadoo put a screen in between the supercharger and engine???

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Well, in fairness I guess they didn't really expect parts of their supercharger washers and bearings to go flying into their engine. Problem solved, so not necessary now.

@mikesmith1191 Жыл бұрын

Need to ask you a question?

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

Sure, go ahead and ask.

@RoadTripMan4U 6 жыл бұрын

Where in BC?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

White Rock

@andor8635 6 жыл бұрын

Like always great vide's you make. I have the new sea Doe 2012 260 I was told and the book say's to overhaul the turbo charger in two hundred hours . Also the turbo charge's are different on the new ski's This ski only 100 not that much time. I also notice lots of corrosion on everything. I guess it the environment it's operating in? I'm in fresh water always so no corrostion. Great job enjoy your video. Sorry to see that he ran into these problems but when you go Turbo charge you run into problems. I don't know now days cars are going into eco boost don't know if thats good or not, Andor.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

We live on the coast, so do lots of salt water riding. Salt water eats away at the metal like acid. That's why we always need to rinse our engine compartment with fresh water after every salt water ride. Just for clarity, our machines have superchargers not turbo chargers. The new Sea-Doos also have "Eco" mode, which does improve gas mileage quite a bit. Thanks for your comment, Andor.

@nitrofan917 6 жыл бұрын

Andor Koval They are Supercharged, not Turbocharged.

@andor8635 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Weishaupt Aren’t they driven buy exhaust gases?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Not the superchargers.

@andor8635 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you I chck my out sorry thank you for pointing it out. I thought about the corrosion I wonder if spraying the engine parts inside with WD-40 might help. I as shocked that much corrosion in salt water watch your video with only 100 hours engine but salt water is hard on stuff.

@user-vo4ke6br5l 2 жыл бұрын

Dear brother, I want a Jet Ski Seadoo Arax B 2010 how much money

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

We’re not familiar with the prices in your area, but most 2010 Sea-Doo models are selling for about USD $4,000 in our area. Good luck with your search.

@tobyharris8291 7 ай бұрын

My 215 rxp had a supercharger rebuild at 100 hours it’s at 177 now seems to be running sweet as when should I bother to check it I’m confident to go past 200 runs absolutely no problem at all

@3ftDeepChannel 7 ай бұрын

Depending on when you had it rebuilt, it should last you about 200 hours. It’s not only about hours, though. Rebuilds only last about 5 years, so if you’re much beyond that even with low hours, it’s time for a rebuild. Safe riding.

@joseconcepcion3796 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome teardown! Do you think SeaDoo does Research & Development or builds junk that makes you want to throw it away. 1 bearing=100 new parts to change in whole engine. Stay w/ 2 stroke

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

The problem was the ceramic supercharger washers they used in earlier models (ending in 2007). Since then, they've used metal supercharger washers that haven't been a problem. Only issue between 2008 and 2015 is that you need to rebuild the superchargers periodically. The 300 hp models have beefier superchargers and the claim is they don't need rebuilding now at all, but we'll see ...

@wp4246 6 жыл бұрын

What are some of the first signs that a failure has happened?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

There can be a performance drop, noise, etc. But the most significant is when your engine starts failing because supercharger parts have gone into it. This is of particular concern in machines with >175 hours on the supercharger, and in 2007 and earlier models that have ceramic washers in the superchargers.

@dougowens2686 6 жыл бұрын

Great video how often do recommend rebuilds

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

The superchargers in 2007 and earlier models should be rebuilt immediately, if they haven't been rebuilt already. The superchargers in more recent models should be rebuilt every 175 hours or so. The engines shouldn't need rebuilding for well over a decade if you look after it.

@radoadamov9201 4 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel hello, how do you feel about the 2 years mandatory rebuild even if the engine sat for years and has only 40 ish hours. Asking for 2013 4-tec gtx . Thank you for all your amazing educational videos.

@garysmith9671 2 жыл бұрын

I can find where I ask a question on this forum

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

You’re in the right spot. What is your question?

@godfatherstilllives5327 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2016 300 rxp with 95 hours on it, should I have the supercharger rebuild ?

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

No. Those superchargers are supposed to be maintenance-free. You just need to check the slip every once in a while.

@godfatherstilllives5327 3 жыл бұрын

3ftDeep okay thank you, most of what I have been seeing is that the old superchargers are not as reliable then?

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

@@godfatherstilllives5327 The earlier models had issues with ceramic washers failing. 2008 and later that problem was solved, but they needed rebuilding every 150 to 250 hours (depending on who you talk to), at a cost of about US$600 parts and labor. The beefed-up superchargers on the 300 models are not supposed to be maintenance (and rebuild) - free. We'll need to see if that's actually true ...

@godfatherstilllives5327 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any thing that one should pay attention to, I guess I am asking is there any weakness in the newer seadoo .?

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Not really. We don't like the polytechnic hull, though. We also don't like the new digital gauge.

@boomhower1966 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I watched it about 6 times. My2007 rxp 215 supercharger went out @ 101 hrs before i had a chance to rebuild it. From what I can tell no metal shavings just aluminum powder. I pulled the filter and a small amount of dust was in there. I pulled the screens and I feel like a triple oil change / flush may be enough. Do you still recommend a full tear down for the aluminum dust?

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on what you found missing in your supercharger when you tore it apart. Best practises say you should dig into the engine, but if you feel the oil filters picked up the debris before it went through the engine, then I personally wouldn’t bother with a teardown.

@shiniquajones2812 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I found 1 ceramic washer missing on my 07, what are the odds that it could really have done some damage?

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Well if it’s still running OK, the pieces may have been picked up by the oil pump screen without doing too much (noticeable) damage. When extensive damage occurs, it usually results in catastrophic failure. It can be much worse when the supercharger bearings fail, too. If I were you I’d keep an eye on its performance and don’t dismiss any strange sounds, overheating, etc. I’d also avoid taking it for long trips far from shore. In other words, I’d use it but I’d always be suspicious of it. For example, there may be damage to your oil pumps which may not efficiently circulate the engine oil. Good luck.

@shiniquajones2812 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel thanks for the rapid response. I didn’t find anything in the oil or filter and only 1 washer was gone. I’m getting it rebuilt. I just bought 2 2007’s. 1 has 46hrs and 1 58hrs but getting them both rebuilt. The superchargers rebuilt

@jamenhulegaard5050 2 ай бұрын

I would love to talk to you and pick your brain for like 5 minutes. I found your video crazy helpful. But I found a sensor underneath the flywheel.... Along with flattened out supercharger gear parts. Where does this sensor go?

@3ftDeepChannel 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. We always suggest getting yourself a digital copy of a Service Manual for your specific year, make and model when doing extensive work on your machine. Our videos can only help so much. Good luck.

@mariowood-martinez2746 4 жыл бұрын

Would you be able to sell me one of these 4 Tec motors after you rebuild it?

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, we just work on our own machines (or the machines of our friends, etc.) so they all go back into the boat when we're done. Try SBT (www.shopsbt.com/). Good luck.

@robertelmo7736 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel Wait, you guys don't run a shop lol?

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thank God, no. We get to do this just for fun!

@robertelmo7736 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel @#$%@%$ why can't you guys live beside me lol!?

@user-dl3fw4xn9f 3 жыл бұрын

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@BarryGeorge 5 жыл бұрын

I'm currently pulling down my 2006 Sportster. Brought it with a knackered Supercharger. It looks like the gear end of the charger has been grinding away a bit the inter block near the cam chain tensioner general area. I can't see how that could happen unless the S-charger was somehow loose? There's some aluminum swarf in the pickup filter. Have you ever seen that sort of damage before? There's no damage to the Stator I'm figuring on taking the head off to check for cylinder scoring. Wondering how far I need to go, if the pumps look ok and bores are clean? Like to have the thing back in the water before the end of summer (begining of Sept up here in the far north!). Can always pull it down in the winter months I guess.. ha ha..

@3ftDeepChannel 5 жыл бұрын

Those superchargers (until 2008) were notorious for having ceramic washer failure. At the very least it needs rebuilding. It’s hard to say how far you need to go in the engine, until you determine if the washers are destroyed. The bearings are also known to fail, and those can do serious damage. Good luck!

@patasa1108 3 жыл бұрын

Hello 3ftdeep I’m having the same issue on my 2008 speedster only 48hr took the supercharger out and only 2 ceramic washers are gone, rest of washers are good bearings are still attached...what do U recommend I should do??? The oils filter only had 1 tinny piece of metal...

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Well, best practises state that you should take the engine apart and look for any damage and replace those components. But it really depends on how much do you want to spend on a 12-year-old machine. I would feel more confident if you found more of the washers in your oil filters. Those pieces have to be in there somewhere.

@patasa1108 3 жыл бұрын

3ftDeep where u located I will drop of the speedster and u do the work....

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

@@patasa1108 White Rock, British Columbia, Canada

@workhardplayhardgarage2695 3 жыл бұрын

What would cause my rxp215 to blow oil out the dip stick ?

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully just an improperly replaced dipstick. Could also be that the O-rings that keep it in place have failed. Those are probably your two best possibilities.

@workhardplayhardgarage2695 3 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I tryed that but there is a lot of pressure I just pulled the motor today

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Check for coolant or water in your engine oil. Look for any sort of milky appearance. Extra volume with your oil could cause the pressure to increase. Good luck.

@workhardplayhardgarage2695 3 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel they oil was good I think I have a ring gone

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

That would make sense. Thanks for the update.

@LITTLEROCKSHORES 6 жыл бұрын

How many hrs?

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Around 100. The sad thing is he knew about the ceramic washers, but wanted "just one more ride."

@khoolaidman1 6 жыл бұрын

I have the same exact year and it has around 35 hours now. I’ve read lots about the ceramic washers being an issues on these but what’s the best way to check and see if they’re replaced? Do I have to take the supercharger off or can I somehow tell without doing so? Also what’s a good way to check the supercharger to make sure it’s good and tight? I’m new to jet skis and bought this with 27 hours on it.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You need to take it apart to check it. I would assume it has the ceramic washers. Good luck!

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

One of our other videos shows how you can check the supercharger clutch slip.

@khoolaidman1 6 жыл бұрын

Ok awesome! Thanks again!

@MarcM143 6 жыл бұрын

I think the only way it would be worth putting in 100 hours labor plus parts into an rxpx would be if the price of a new one wasn't so close to the total cost of the repair. Any layman tries to do this and 99 percent positive it would never be put back together again. And at a shop good luck getting out of there for less than 10k usd

@IHadToMakeThisAccount 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and thats not even the shop overcharging you, any less it probably not worth touching for them. But imagine spending 10k on an outdated ski? Dumd decision for sure.

@chaoszombie9995 6 жыл бұрын

Ouch. That’s all I can say haha

@ryantoomey611 6 жыл бұрын

Yamaha FTW! Seadoo is just too much maintenance with more stuff to go wrong.

@Logan-ty4ib 6 жыл бұрын

People still thinking that the yamaha vs seadoo debacle is still a thing. Back when yamaha ruled the scene and seadoo built shitty quality watercraft, it was yamaha all day. But now seadoo makes better, faster, and more luxurious craft so its not relevant anymore.

@JasonW. 6 жыл бұрын

Sea-Doo superchargers make me wonder how many ceramic bearings are in CRJ900s I fly in

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Good question. The good news is they stopped using them in 2007 and have known about the problem for years.

@JasonW. 6 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I was always told it was from keeping on the throttle while airborne over waves, then biting the props back into the water shocked the ceramic. I've only owned Kawasaki and Yamaha skis, so I do not have personal knowledge of them

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely that aggravates the problem, but that wasn't the case here. Our advice is, if you've got a pre-2008 supercharger that hasn't been rebuilt, time to rebuild. The bearings can also fail with time, so the supercharger needs rebuilding for that reason between 150 and 200 hrs, depending on the year. The 2016 to 2018 models don't require a rebuild in the 300 models, according to Sea-Doo. Thanks for your comment.

@jevve1388 6 жыл бұрын

And that was the easy part, disassembling xd

@thediplomasta5891 2 жыл бұрын

"We're gonna check a few things". (Disassembles entire engine). 🤯 What's the point of having 3 oil filters, if the pump will still self destruct anyway?! I'll never bad-mouth my D.I. again. 😅

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Well, when the supercharger self-destructs, bad things happen!

@thediplomasta5891 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel no doubt. 🤔 Would you expect a turbo ski from the same era, to be more or less reliable that the supercharger? As far as frequency of required maintenance.

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

They didn’t come with turbos, only superchargers. It was the ceramic washers they put in the superchargers for a few years that created the problem. It was fixed completely in the 2008 and newer years when they went back to using the steel washers.

@thediplomasta5891 2 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel well somebody made turbos. Honda maybe? I can't remember. Most of my time is spent with outboards and I/Os. (Where I can actually fit my hand into places!) 🤣.

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

We also work on our motorbikes, so we get what you mean about being able to access the components more easily!

@user-vo4ke6br5l 2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻good

@3ftDeepChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ClubMayview 6 жыл бұрын

Presence of water is unrelated. But not a real good sign

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You're right. I can't recall the reason, but I think he left it out in the rain. That kind of "unrelated".

@easydoz1 6 жыл бұрын

Can you show more on how to remove bolts ..... Actually I'm being sarcastic...

@anthonyortizcalderon3382 Жыл бұрын

Tengo un 260rxtx 2010 y me daña el filtro de aceite como que lo chupa

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

Lo siento, pero no entendemos tu pregunta.

@anthonyortizcalderon3382 Жыл бұрын

Es como si con la mano lo aplastara como si fuera una lata de refresco

@anthonyortizcalderon3382 Жыл бұрын

No puedo poner la foto

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

Eso es a menudo un signo de falla del motor. Por lo general, cuando se toma agua. Debe revisarla de inmediato.

@anthonyortizcalderon3382 Жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel yo me vire en el y ay comenso el problema

@DieselRamcharger 6 жыл бұрын

You mean to tell me if you severely neglect a ski, then an internal engine part fails, and you continue to use it. Even more shit gets broken? Are you sure about this? Seems highly unlikely...........that people are surprised by this.

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Even if the ski isn't neglected, the superchargers in some of the older models are prone to failure. If they don't know about the issue regarding the ceramic supercharger washers, they can't really be blamed for the failure.

@gandanglily1 6 жыл бұрын

the guitar is doing my head in ,, please no more, thanks

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Chris isn't a fan of the music either, so he usually mutes our videos. Something to consider ...

@johnson7454 4 жыл бұрын

This just makes me never want a 4 stroke lol

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Not to worry, the four stroke engines are rocksolid now.

@johnson7454 4 жыл бұрын

@@3ftDeepChannel I mean for the fact they have so many more parts then the 2 strokes

@jeramiebentley4054 Жыл бұрын

my 2016 seadoo has 103 hrs but its 7 years old im rebuilding it today lol

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a great idea. Good luck.

@Turbodako2x 3 жыл бұрын

Rebuilding the supercharger doesn't seem so bad after all lol

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the worst part is getting off one of the hard to reach bolts that mount it to the ski.

@davidharbin4969 4 жыл бұрын

Sling blade music. Mmm hmmm

@3ftDeepChannel 4 жыл бұрын

I'll have to watch that movie again. Sounds a bit David Lynchish to me ...

@mushroomstone Жыл бұрын

"It ain't got no gas in it."

@3ftDeepChannel Жыл бұрын

Nope.

@KevinLambguitar 5 жыл бұрын

Absurd amount of work. Just not worth it.

@lwood5375 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I wont buy used

@3ftDeepChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Used is OK. Just don’t buy anything prior to 2008 unless you can confirm the supercharger has been rebuilt.

@alycestapleton 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry but I didn’t see no supercharger. Fake title and footage

@3ftDeepChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Fake news...? Yamaha conspiracy...?

@oscarhernandez2773 6 жыл бұрын

How bout trashing this and buying yourself a new one👊👊👊

@ruthlessreid9172 6 жыл бұрын

Buy yamaha folks those French Canadians can't build reliable engines.