How to replace a carbon seal on a 97 seadoo gti. Same for all carbon seal.
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@1cont3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just replaced my seal because your video taught me how to do it. God bless you, Sir!
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped .. ride on brother
@AudreyGraceB4 күн бұрын
Really well made video. Good work. Makes it easy to see just what you're doing.
@jonparkmac4 күн бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad this helped. I use the channel lock trick all the time ..works so fast and easy. I made another one this year about aftermarket bellows and problems with them
@AudreyGraceB4 күн бұрын
@@jonparkmac that is a great trick. My jet pump put up quite a fight after 30 years of never being removed. I'm glad to be giving the ski new life all over again.
@bsleppy29264 ай бұрын
Great video. Well done and articulate. Some steps we missed. I personally don’t trust plastic zip ties for any length of time unless it’s manufactured recommended or not critical. Like a small engine fuel line to close for comfort. Lol 🔥🔥 School of hard knocks I guess. Live and learn.
@jonparkmac4 ай бұрын
Thanks and glad you liked it. Zips are commonly used there but yes a SS ear/oetiker clamp is best and oem. A metal screw clamp is a mistake unless you use two and offset them 180 so they stay in balance.
@jasont20743 жыл бұрын
Top video! And have to say, that’s a super clean engine bay 🤙🏻
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Helps me find parts when I drop them .. and I do all the time lol .. I use purple power and let it slosh around on the trailer returning home
@z33tanner Жыл бұрын
Great informative video, can't wait to get a 2000's GTI going to be my first ski, I work on all my own stuff so the 717 seems like a great engine
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
It's the most reliable and plenty power for midclass ski. Make sure the oil lines are in good shape and oil in the tank and they'll last a while
@ofchilds10 ай бұрын
Great video and thank you for taking the time to explain why it needs replacing
@jonparkmac10 ай бұрын
Always happy to hear when my videos help someone
@rantzworx2 жыл бұрын
The channelocks idea was brilliant. Thank you!
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I cannot take credit for that. Mate on seadoo forum shared that gem
@FraktalsFestiVids2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Great video - very detailed and informative. I just ran into an issue yesterday with my 96 GTX at the lake where I would rev super fast, but the exhaust pressure was the only thing moving me. A few searches and I made it here - hoping this will be the fix I need as it seems relatively straightforward. Definitely going to inspect the wear ring as well as these are new to me.
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
The carbon ring is only a seal. Your issue sounds like a wear ring. Search "Gray ghost seadoo pump" for my vidi on that
@SeanPennII2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Did this today. This made it easier. Thank you
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped brutha .. only reason I do these vids
@tomh6139 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video, Very informative Thanks for sharing
@roberatx23393 жыл бұрын
exellent thank u so much now i feel ready to change my seal
@paulrockwood37111 ай бұрын
Great video explaining it. I was wondering how or where the water stops before entering the hull and now I know it comes into the actual rubber bellows boot and stops where the carbon seal contacts the metal collar and also the two orings inside the metal collar. Pretty vulnerable setup! Those two cheap hose clamps on that eubber bellows are very important!😊
@jonparkmac11 ай бұрын
It's quite reliable actually. That's why seadoo used it for many years. The other option is a sealed carrier bearing, which is also good ..but can tear out the thru-hull fitting if the bearing seizes. Those aren't cheap clamps, they're thicker stainless steel from factory
@smclane63 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@molnarmalibu4702 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, hope this helped.
@RC-ge4qb21 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the reply Johnathon , I have a SBT # 77-105 Rebuild Kit and it does not include a metal C Ring but it has an Extra rubber O- ring that I can NOT figure out where it goes . Do you think it's an upgrade (maybe downgrade) from the stock metal C- ring ( I did call SBT and they were no help ) and if so would you trust it or use the old metal C -clip ? Also the boot is a lot firmer than the old one, hope ok ?
@jonparkmac21 сағат бұрын
The one you got is for a shaft with no c-clip but an oring. It's a different setup. You might be able to use the c-clip. Dry fit it and see. Inside the metal hat there should be two rubber rings ..those are for preventing leaks. Don't use OEM bellows. They are too stiff or too flimsy. See my recent video on exactly that subject.
@ShadetreeJetski3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation video.
@mazz15572 жыл бұрын
Great video - I have a 96 GTX and I rebuilt the carbs, replaced all fuel lines, new fuel selector, cleaned and rebuilt RAVE valves, but now I can only seem to get to about 3500/4000 RPMs and can't get above a very slow cruising speed (20km/h). My next step is to pull the pump, replace the wear ring and perform this service you show in your video. What are the odds this corrects my issue?
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
If the motor doesn't rev past that, then it's not the wear ring or pump. If it does, the it's wear ring or cavitation ..or worst case stripped drive shaft splines. Try disconnecting the rectifier ..they sometimes interfere with ignition.
@ssyoumans Жыл бұрын
I am getting water into my hull, about 2-3" in 24 hours if the seadoo is just sitting in the water. I didn't think it was coming in from where the carbon seal meets the metal disc (support ring I think it is called). There is no water dripping where these 2 surfaces meet. It appears to be coming in at the thru hull. Is this common, and any suggestions on how to replace the thru hull? or am I missing something?? Thanks for the excellent video.
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
They can leak around the thru hull fitting. There's a repair kit for it. I've not done this there, but if you clean it real good with acetone and apply thin layer of 3M 5200 it may stop it for a season or so. Check the back bolts where the shoe mounts to the stern. There's also bolts that come up from the grate. Those can leak
@oldsalt8011 Жыл бұрын
great video!
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@oldsalt8011 Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac is the idle adjustment difficult to get too?
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
@@oldsalt8011 no, just have to remove the air box. But you want 3000 out of water and 1500 in water. Don't tune or even run out of water. So if you are trying to lower the idle cuz it seems to high on trailer .. mistake. Also if you do change idle you then need to readjust the oil pump and line up those marks.
@oldsalt8011 Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Thanks, I'll try to check for the dumb stuff like a leaking vacuum line and a stuck throttle. Yea, I have to be careful that I don't create more problems. I'll look for those marks on the oil pump just so that I can be wise to them. Thanks again for the reply.
@djpipes122 жыл бұрын
Great video and detailed explanation. I have a new to me Seadoo Challenger with single engine. Engine starts and runs great. My issue is the boat won't plane. I have replaced the wear ring and oil in pump. Impeller secured nicely and tightened pump to hull after a few in and outs in water. The outcome is boat still didn't plane. Can't seem to get past 10mph running really 7-8k rpms. Every now and then it'll plane and take off. Was told maybe a carbon ring issue. Would going through this rebuild process fix my issue?
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
If carbon seal is too lose it can suck air into the pump and dilute the jet stream
@marcbrazzers6 ай бұрын
Check out the seal behind the pump, usually there is a foam gasket there
@justhavingfun07362 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@RC-ge4qb9 күн бұрын
Hi Johnathon , I just purchased a 1997 Sea Doo Speedster (2x 720 engines) with some serious Cavitation issues and was about to just replace the Carbon Seal set but my driveshaft has some corrosion pits right at the outer O ring mating surface to the Carbon Seal Metal Support Ring and since this is fixed relative to the driveshaft do you think i can just fill the void between O rings with RTV ( I know it might be harder to remove ring next time ) ?
@jonparkmac8 күн бұрын
As long as both orings seal snug inside the Hat corrosion on the shaft shouldn't matter. I wouldn't reccomend using rtv as a solution there.
@whotube35711 ай бұрын
I'm glad i have a Kawi,no carbon seals lol
@redpineapple99087 ай бұрын
Good video but I wouldn't have used a cable tie to replace a metal clamp.
@jonparkmac7 ай бұрын
I mostly use oetiker where it matters. In that spot zip tie is commonly used .. but yeah SS ear clamps always good. Just never use a metal worm drive clamp there
@hankhamadi3410 Жыл бұрын
Great video,where did i buy this kit from?
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
Osdmarine
@jeffwillisrealtor97022 жыл бұрын
I'm finding this to very difficult, is there anything i need to know that would make this easier. I cant get the prop off of the back (the part with the prop) took all 4 bolts off and detached all the small hoses and still cant get the unit off to get to the drive shaft... help
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
Take all hoses off. Sometimes they are rtv glued on. Pour gas on to losen it. Tie it to tree and pull it off. Can also use a dent puller
@pekoprecision3 жыл бұрын
Why did you use a zip tie on that boot? what about the metal clamp that was there? Is it supposed to go back on?
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
You mean the oetiker OEM clamps. Not good to reuse as they are usually damaged on removal. Use new ones if you have them, need clamp tool. in this case zip ties fine, and common.
@pekoprecision3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac OK got ya. I'll see if I can find some the right size. Othewise yeah I'll zip tie them
@RM-245 Жыл бұрын
should that be done whether there are issues after so many hours?
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
A new one will last a long time. Supposed to check every 100 hours. People burn them down running the ski out of water and shorten the life. Keep it wet and grease the pto zerk
@bartii83112 жыл бұрын
Can carbon seal cause you to loose top end speed? Reason I’m asking my top end speed is 48 mph with 7200 rpms. I should be able to hit 55 to 60 mph with my seadoo gtx 155 but hard stop at 48 mph
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
Yes it can if it's a weak seal. The pump can suck air thru the seal and cause cavitation. Other thing to check is a tight wear ring ..tolerance should be 1 mm or less for max performance
@elflaco503jr53 жыл бұрын
I have a 1994 sea doo xp jet ski, but it works a bit and then it turns on the heater alarm. what will be the problem
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
I could not say, but join the Seadoo Tech Support fb page and they'll help.
@AlexanderTheGrateful11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be nice if seadoo would utilise the same tech as Yamaha and Kawasaki and use a bearing instead of a carbon seal, Did you know? FACT; seadoo used to use a bearing and a stainless steel ware ring pre 1996 They quickly found out that the flaw with the motor is it only had three motor mounts, therefore highly increasing the risk of engine miss alignment causing the bearing to buckle and seize and the impeller would violently hit the stainless steel wear ring. At the time it would cost seadoo a lot of money to pay rotax to change their design, so instead they decided to make wearable items and charge the customer for the parts. Therefore seadoo makes money on the entire life of the jetski Food for thought Yet people keep buying these things You can’t make this up
@jonparkmac11 ай бұрын
I've heard similar story. When the bearings seize they tear out the thru hull fitting. That's why some prefer the carbon anyway.
@AlexanderTheGrateful11 ай бұрын
@@jonparkmac can you elaborate on this? Kawasaki and Yamaha use bearings and in the 25+ years I’ve been riding I’ve never heard of that happening to these brands, If this was happening to seadoos, then why would people keep buying them, So you are saying people prefer the carbon seal rather than having the issues with the engine mounts fixed and run a bearing like the other two manufacturers without any wear items? I highly doubt it...
@jonparkmac11 ай бұрын
It's clear you are bent on bashing the Sea-Doo brand in general. Yes a ton of people buy them and enjoy them .. so you'll have to suck it up and move on
@terryhites13 жыл бұрын
Grrr… you didn’t show the pulling back of the seal and getting C clip out…
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
Look at the end, I show you
@terryhites13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I seen that, I wanted to see the part where the old one wouldn't come out and all the tools got thrown and the jetski got flipped 🤣
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
Lol .. that was me taking the exhaust off my 4tech.
@rubberstump2 жыл бұрын
Why replace? When do you know when to change? TIA
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
Need to replace or ski will sink. Check by feeling the pressure with your hand .. should be little snug and not loose or too tight. Check hull often for water
@Peterlopata2 жыл бұрын
Question....Does the engine oil need to be drained 1st? Thanks
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
No, there is no engine oil. There is injection oil and oil for the rotary gear. 2 strokes
@Peterlopata2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac oh didn't know this was a 2 stroke. I assumed it's 4 and that's what i was asking for. I need to do this repair and seen on another video that Sea Doo recommends removing the oil
@jeffrager46112 жыл бұрын
How much should this cost at a dealer ( hours of labor?)
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
$50 for labor. Better to learn to work on these yourself or you'll turn a $1500 ski into a $4000 money pit
@user-lh4nl5zh8w2 жыл бұрын
Is the same process for 2007 gti 155 se?
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
I think so yes. Check your manual to be sure.
@Barnyardbuilds2863 ай бұрын
were can i order the parts?
@jonparkmac3 ай бұрын
OSD marine
@droski333 жыл бұрын
How long did this take an hour?
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bout an hour and lot less if you've done it before and have all your tools/parts handy.
@elflaco503jr53 жыл бұрын
has a small water leak
@Dstoerkel3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link for the parts kit you ordered?
@jonparkmac3 жыл бұрын
I ordered from Amazon, but OSD marine has oem ones. This is working good for me. www.amazon.com/dp/B0713RZRLC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_25YCRMFFMV7X1CF7MJQY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@kylewatts77963 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Are you still happy with that kit? I ordered the same but unfortunately carbon seal came in with a knick in it. Debating returning and buying a different kit, or just having it replaced.
@hankhamadi34102 жыл бұрын
Where did u buy the kit from?
@jonparkmac2 жыл бұрын
OSD marine
@expatconn7242 Жыл бұрын
What state is the Westside Marine business app I just tried to Google them there’s one in Arizona I just want to Texas so where did you get the parts at because I have two 1997’s and I never knew that you had to replace those
@jonparkmac Жыл бұрын
Find me on Facebook and IM me. I'll take care of ya 💪💪
@expatconn7242 Жыл бұрын
I need to know what your Facebook picture looks like