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Seagate ST-157A hard drive sounds

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Arnold0 - Arnlol

Arnold0 - Arnlol

Күн бұрын

A very nice early IDE drive which sounds quite nice. If you want an IDE stepper motor based drive, this is one to go for. These also look pretty nice, they have that older look to them similar to the eariler MFM drives.
One of these drives has worn bearings but otherwhise they work perfectly. It is amazing to think that these are over 30 years old !

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@billv4987
@billv4987 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing - I used to have an ST-157A in the early 90s. Quite nostalgic to hear that sound again.
@XL-Tech
@XL-Tech 2 жыл бұрын
Ive definitely heard both seektests before, but i never noticed that there are 2 different seektests that these drives could have! This is very interesting.
@stragulus
@stragulus Жыл бұрын
I bought one of these recently because I missed the sounds. The one I had way back didn't start unless you warmed up the drive. As in literally. I put it on a radiator or in the oven on 50C for a few minutes and then it would spin up just fine! It was always on in a small home server so it still managed to work for a couple of years before finally being decommissioned.
@arnlol
@arnlol Жыл бұрын
That's interesting, I wonder if it was suffering from stiction and heating it up helped with that... Mines does not have that issue, but my ST-125N does, maybe I should try next time it doesn't start to heat it up just a bit to see what happens.
@Jones5121
@Jones5121 Жыл бұрын
all things considered, this sounds pretty close to a 'modern' hard drive
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
There it is, the only hard disk to ever burn and electrocute me in the same hour
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 Жыл бұрын
I found my old battle ax ST-157A I need to mount it somehow so I can see if all my files still there.
@almonddrive-0013
@almonddrive-0013 2 жыл бұрын
My st 157a-1 was stamped 9034 and has a different font on the lid.
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard the seek test of the older one. I have 7 of them now and they all have the seek test of the 2nd one. What manufacturing date does the 1st one have? Btw there is an ST157 without the -1 in the name which is actually the pre-facelift version and it is supposed to have a slower seek time than the -1 version. Yours both show the -1 on the lid but the slower seek test right at the beginning makes me wonder if someone swapped either the lid or the PCB and it is performing like the pre-facelift version. You should clearly see the differences in the SpeedSys seek times. Unfortunately I don't have the early version of the ST157 so I can't compare.
@arnlol
@arnlol 3 жыл бұрын
I don't beleive it was messed with, at least on the side of the drive there's a small sticker with some info on it saying : 3.4-13-A1 N5SLARNAS17A X9037 That 3rd line corresponds to the 9037 date stamped on the PCB, and the first line has to do with the firmware, as it says 3.4 and 3.4/048 is the firmware version speedsys and MHDD reports. No idea what the middle line is. On the newer one there's only two lines N5SLARNAS19 4.1-14-A1 The date isn't printed on it, the stamp on the PCB says 9049. Speedsys/MHDD says its firmware is 4.1/064 which also corresponds. The have very similar seek times within margin of error. In my file I have (Yes I have made one since a few weeks now, its quite usefull) Avg 35.91 Max 57.41 Random 28.76 TtT 9.21 Random Access 39.94 for the older one and Avg 35.6 Max 57.24 Random 28.98 TtT 8.17 Random Access 39.6 for the newer one. I actually watched most videos of ST-157A drives I could find yesterday, and sure enough, they all seemed to have the same seektest as the newer one (When the videos had the seektest included, which many did not)
@arnlol
@arnlol 3 жыл бұрын
I looked a bit more, and I found other videos where the drive sounds like my older one, here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7qPZpCa2tSaomQ.html at 1:07 and also here inside an old PC kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5lybKh52KjHc5c.html at about 0:17 I checked on ebay listings to see what firmware versions I could find, and I saw a lot of 4.1 and 4.2 ones, with 2 where I could see 3.4 (Both had a good enough picture of the PCB to see the date, 9024 and 9044). Seems like the 4.2 ones are the ones having the "CAUTION: DO NOT LOW LEVEL FORMAT" sticker that the 3.4 and 4.1 ones do not have. I did not see any ST-157A without the -1 though, they must be really rare.
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnlol Actually I don't know which firmware versions my drives have. I will check that when I'm back home and get back to you. But I'm pretty sure none of my drives does the slow seek right at the beginning of the seek test. I never heard that.
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
Here are the firmware versions of my drives (first number being the date as stamped on the PCB) 9109 4.1 14 A1 9049 9.7 14 A1 9050 4.1-14-A1 (the only one using dashes between numbers) 9146 4.2 14 A1 9049 4.1 14 A1 9122 4.2 14 A1 9115 4.1 14 A1 Interestingly 9049 has a 9.7 firmware. But this is one of the dead drives (head crash) and I transplanted its PCB to the first (9109) drive because 9109 had a PCB that tended to overheat (and it had a lot bad sectors though their number seemed to increase with every run and the PCB heating up and when I cooled down the two squarish chips next to the ribbon cable that goes to the head reading performance improved slightly). This resulted in less bad sectors for the 9109 drive though still to be considered unuseable. Anyways, despite the different firmware versions the 9109 drive worked so I wonder if the firmware differences are not relevant for merely reading data from the platters.
@almonddrive-0013
@almonddrive-0013 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same as my st 157n
@MyComputerStudios_
@MyComputerStudios_ Жыл бұрын
the first one is an older ST157A without the -1 prefix, denoting the lower performance version. looks like the seller scammed you by putting a "-1" sticker on an older ST157A.
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
Seagate changed the BIOS several times during the production of the ST125 and ST157. The stickers were also affixed like this from the factory on every Seagate drive that had the option, all the way back to the ST-238 and possibly even earlier. The only "real" way to tell the difference is to look at the part number of the stepper or measure the resistance of it's windings. The faster drives have low impedance steppers.
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