*"Science is not the enemy of the Christian faith."* Yes it is.

how can science be the enemy of faith if it was born out of faith , the earliest scientists were all men who read in scripture about the laws that God placed on nature and went to study these laws , along the way people forgot where it all started , but the Bible has been vindicated in all it's scientific statements

Yep. Reliability of scriptures talks about bibliographic evidence, evidences from historical correctness, evidence from archeology. Internal evidence focuses on internal consistency and things like the strangeness of having a bunch of uneducated fishermen producing the sea change, etc. This is a review of three natural theological arguments,

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Love trancends time and space

You’re scratching the surface there but there are actually hundreds of “bibles” in English alone. Which do you believe in? Septuagint or Vulgate? Does it concern you that the earliest versions of many books that we have access to had already been translated at least once, we’re clearly not written by anyone speaking Aramaic (much less illiterate fishermen), and were copies of copies of copies of copies made hundreds of years after the J man got did? No one who ever professes belief in the literal Bible ever handles these issues. I see them occasionally jump through hoops defending god’s many genocides of some of the blatant contradictions, but never the fact that we don’t actually know what the original text was, or that we’ve changed it to suit our needs since.

Not a mis-title, he just now gave you rebuttals, based on scientific evidence, to the most common arguments against what the Bible states as fact, i.e. truth claims... hence this is a discussion on the reliability of scripture.

The presenter assumes the audience has at least a double figure IQ

I haven’t read that part yet.

Your very welcome

Judeo Christian theses and postulations made in the Bible were uniquely found in the Bible and also scientifically found to be true.

This was about as much evidence as is possible! Are you just some dumb atheist who cannot comprehend this level of information!!!

Cause he's nervous and doesn't even realize his mistake?

Okay, at least your trying, but I'm wrong as opposed to what? The earth being a hot molten mass? Is that what you mean? Your comment is like, half a thought lol

Also, it's your God too...whether you like it or not.

Scientists actually believe the Earth was once covered with water, some 2.5 billion years ago.

Reliability.

charlieduke1 we are freedom so we can choose love or death. If god just made everyone love we would be robots. Natural disasters are how the world functions and yes they kill human beings but you can't blame that on God we could prevent people from dying in these disasters if we would be proactive like building a house to sustain a hurricane or not living in a hurricane environment. But we're just not that smart

So do you believe in Santa Claus? Why or why not? I don't believe/have faith that Santa/the Easter bunny exists because I don't have evidence. The gospels themselves are evidence (eye witness accounts) about who Jesus is. No one believes/has faith in something without evidence of some kind.

@@adamcollins8907 //The gospels themselves are evidence (eyewitness accounts) about who Jesus is.// You are flat out wrong--the gospels are anonymous accounts; we cannot take the gospels seriously as history because we don' t know where the author's got their information. Mark (the earliest gospel) was silent about his sources although it's apparent he heavily relied on the OT. Mark was also recording hearsay (the memories of Peter). IF Peter had written it and spoke in the first person (I, Peter, witnessed...) and put his name to the document, you might have a case. Again and again, in the gospels, we see the same indicators such as miracles and improbabilities, literary constructs, symbolic narratives, artificial structures, rewrites of biblical tales, emulations of mythical plots and in Mark 16 specifically, the two oldest manuscripts (from the 300's) conclude with verse 8. The gospels do not fit the criteria of 'evidence' in any way, shape, or form. I would be careful about what you say concerning the gospels if I were you, you wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information, would you?

what's that have to do with anything? DNA is god?

How does chaos produce information?

what chaos? what information?

Chef Asbury Living things are built using cells containing information. Where did this information come from? Certainly not the chaotic process of random chance.

What you are calling information, is just chemicals. Humans call it information, so we can tell what it's doing. Why don't you actually open a biology book about DNA and learn what it is.

you are all opinion and nothing else

@@travelsouthafrica5048 Do you have any physical evidence for the physical claim there was a JC? Text is not enough for it is merely the claim.

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@@robertlight5227 but let me tell you the problem with physical evidence , it too will always be disputed and there will always be doubt , in the Gospels it speaks of the fact that we have a more sure way of knowing and if you are willing to watch a few videos i can show you what that sure way is

@@travelsouthafrica5048 SO you concede you have no physical evidence. If you cannot verify JC was a man then what should we think of your grander claim he was divine? This why people are leaving the churches in droves.

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because serving God with all your being is always the same thing as trying to help Him right?

Rommel Zamora Do you even know what apologetics is?

Apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is the theological science or religious discipline of defending or proving the truth of religious doctrines through systematic argumentation and discourse. Early Christian writers (c. 120-220) who defended their beliefs against critics and recommended their faith to outsiders were called Christian apologists. In 21st century usage, 'apologetics' is often identified with debates over religion and theology. It may be less frequently heard in the UK (although the related word 'apologist' is used in a non-religious sense).

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1). With these words the Bible opens the history of our world. It does not try to prove that God exists. From the very beginning God already is, and He is already active. The writers of the Bible never doubt or question God’s existence. Nor do they go into long arguments to show to others that God is real. Why is this? “No one has ever seen God” (John 1:18). The fact that God is not directly seen does not have to lead to doubt. The wind is unseen. Does anyone really doubt that wind exists? We are sure it exists because we see the results of its blowing. Though God is invisible, we know He is there because of the results of His powerful work. The world around us, called “nature,” is one of those results (Genesis 1:1). With other results of God’s work, nature speaks clearly of its Creator. People through the ages, and all over the world, have come to the same conclusion: Creation points to an amazing Creator. Rulers who have tried to make people deny God have ended in failure. When those rulers fall, their people are seeking God more than ever. The apostle Paul speaks of those who try to hide the truth about God. He shows why God is angry with them: Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-His eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse (Romans 1:19-20). Realities about God can be “clearly seen”! How? “Being understood from what has been made.” Just looking at the wonderful creation around us helps us to know about God! We know of the wind’s presence by its effect as it moves dust and leaves. In a far greater way, we know things about God by the effect of His work around us. God has made it clear to those who are willing to look. That is why people have “no excuse” when they twist the truth about God.

Rommel Zamora 1Peter 3:15 is clear on why we should do what we do. If it wasn't for apologist who go and defend the Christian faith, many, many souls would still be lost. There is much for you to learn. What you should have done is ask the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth. You do not know the reason for somethings such as this, yet you jump on your band wagon to speak ill against it. Please pray and think of good for everyone. Remember Jesus commands us to Have the Agape love! God bless.

So what you are saying is that the only ones you want to believe are those who already believe

Saby, take in the fact that we have technology to scan the cosmos over vast distances. Thousands of alien planets have been seen and it is known that NONE of them support life. We know that there are 2 bodies of water on this earth. Oceans above the surface and oceans below the surface. How did this water get here? No one has any good guesses anymore but we need it for us to live and flourish here. WE are alive. If the universe was not made for us, we are impossibly lucky.

Jimbob Beebob It is known NONE of them support life? We aren't even remotely close to being able to make that assertion. And the only life we know about is what we experience here on earth. Life can possibly take completely unfamiliar forms that we yet can't recognize. We didn't even have any proof that any other planets outside of our solar system existed until a couple of decades ago. If you want to know how water got here, read up on current theories. And how do you explain the water on the moon Europa? Also, its impossible for us to comprehend how small we are compared to the overall universe. But you think its all here for us? Every pebble on every planet in distant space is here for us? Give me a break!

You can believe that you are insignificant and that the entire human race is but a speck of star dust floating meaninglessly through space. However, if this is the case, your life is literally meaningless and it does not matter what you do because you are nothing compared to everything and you will simply die like everything else. A life of hopeless and pointless endeavors until death and ...........????? I choose to believe that since there is not proof of life like ours anywhere else, I will not believe in life like ours anywhere else. In fact, evidence points more toward a Creator who revealed himself through Jesus of Nazareth. In him you find meaning and hope. In this world alone, we have meaningless life and nothing else.

SECRETS WILL BE DISCLOSED Luke 12:2 Mark 4:22 Psalm 19:1-6 Psalm 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, 5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. 6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. Job 1:7 GOD asks satan where he had been and he said he was walking to and fro and up and down in the Earth. (not around the Earth but back and forth!) Quotes from the past by the reformers and others “There is talk of a new astrologer who wants to prove that the earth moves and goes around instead of the sky, the sun, the moon, just as if somebody were moving in a carriage or ship might hold that he was sitting still and at rest while the earth and the trees walked and moved. But that is how things are nowadays: when a man wishes to be clever he must invent something special, and the way he does it must needs be the best! The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth.” - Martin Luther. “The Word of God must not be mocked. I am caught, cannot come out; the text is too powerful. Therefore I say: clean and clear, believe all or believe nothing!” - Martin Luther. “We Christians must be different from the philosophers [i.e. scientists] in the way we think about the causes of these things. And if some are beyond our comprehension (like those before us concerning the waters above the heavens), we must believe them and admit our lack of knowledge rather than either wickedly deny them or presumptuously interpret them in conformity with our understanding.” - Martin Luther. John Calvin affirms the rotation of the heavens while maintaining that the earth is stationary: A simple survey of the world should of itself suffice to attest a Divine Providence. The heavens revolve daily, and, immense as is their fabric, and inconceivable the rapidity of their revolutions, we experience no concussion - no disturbance in the harmony of their motion. The sun, though varying its course every diurnal revolution, returns annually to the same point. The planets, in all their wanderings, maintain their respective positions. How could the earth hang suspended in the air were it not upheld by God’s hand? By what means could it maintain itself unmoved, while the heavens above are in constant rapid motion, did not its Divine Maker fix and establish it? Accordingly the particle אף, aph, denoting emphasis, is introduced - Yea, he hath established it. - John Calvin, Commentary on the Psalms: Volume IV, Ps 93:1 Here we have a quote from Philipp Melanchthon: “The eyes are witnesses that the heavens revolve in the space of twenty-four hours. But certain men, either from the love of novelty, or to make a display of ingenuity, have concluded the earth moves; and they maintain that neither the eighth sphere nor the sun revolves. Now, it is a want of honesty and decency to assert such notions publicly, and the example is pernicious. It is the part of a good mind to accept the truth as revealed by God, and to acquiesce in it.” - Melanchthon (From his Latin Treatise on the “Elements of Physical Science”) thanasius: But the earth is not supported upon itself, but is set upon the realm of the waters, while this again is kept in its place, being bound fast at the center of the universe. (Against the Heathen, Book I, Part I) Athanasius: Who that sees the clouds supported in air, and the weight of the waters bound up in the clouds, can but perceive Him that binds them up and has ordered these things so? Or who that sees the earth, heaviest of all things by nature, fixed upon the waters, and remaining unmoved upon what is by nature mobile, will fail to understand that there is One that has made and ordered it, even God? Who that sees the earth bringing forth fruits in due season, and the rains from heaven, and the flow of rivers, and springing up of wells, and the birth of animals from unlike parents, and that these things take place not at all times but at determinate seasons-and in general, among things mutually unlike and contrary, the balanced and uniform order to which they conform-can resist the inference that there is one Power which orders and administers them, ordaining things well as it thinks fit? For left to themselves they could not subsist or ever be able to appear, on account of their mutual contrariety of nature. For water is by nature heavy, and tends to flow downwards, while the clouds are light and belong to the class of things which tend to soar and mount upwards. And yet we see water, heavy as it is, borne aloft in the clouds. And again, earth is very heavy, while water on the other hand is relatively light; and yet the heavier is supported upon the lighter, and the earth does not sink, but remains immovable. And male and female are not the same, while yet they unite in one, and the result is the generation from both of an animal like them. And to cut the matter short, cold is opposite to heat, and wet fights with dry, and yet they come together and are not at variance, but they agree, and produce as their result a single body, and the birth of everything. (Against The Heathen, BK 1, Part I, 36) Athanasius: For who that sees the circle of heaven and the course of the sun and the moon, and the positions and movements of the other stars, as they take place in opposite and different directions, while yet in their difference all with one accord observe a consistent order, can resist the conclusion that these are not ordered by themselves, but have a maker distinct from themselves who orders them? or who that sees the sun rising by day and the moon shining by night, and waning and waxing without variation exactly according to the same number of days, and some of the stars running their courses and with orbits various and manifold, while others move without wandering, can fail to perceive that they certainly have a creator to guide them? (Against the Heathen, Bk 1, Part III, 35) For by a nod and by the power of the Divine Word of the Father that governs and presides over all, the heaven revolves, the stars move, the sun shines, the moon goes her circuit, and the air receives the sun’s light and the ether his heat, and the winds blow: the mountains are reared on high, the sea is rough with waves, and the living things in it grow the earth abides fixed…” (Against the Heathen, Bk 1, Part III, 44) Athenagoras: to Him is for us to know who stretched out and vaulted the heavens, and fixed the earth in its place like a center (Why the Christians do not Offer Sacrifices, Ch XIII) Chrysostom: And again, David saith of the sun, that “he is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a giant to run his course.” Seest thou how he places before thee the beauty of this star, and its greatness? For even as a bridegroom when he appears from some stately chamber, so the sun sends forth his rays under the East; and adorning the heaven as it were with a saffron-colored veil, and making the clouds like roses, and running unimpeded all the day; he meets no obstacle to interrupt his course. Beholdest thou, then, his beauty? (Homilies to Antioch, Homily X) Chrysostom: For He not only made it, but provided also that when it was made, it should carry on its operations; not permitting it to be all immoveable, nor commanding it to be all in a state of motion. The heaven, for instance, hath remained immoveable, according as the prophet says, “He placed the heaven as a vault, and stretched it out as a tent over the earth.” But, on the other hand, the sun with the rest of the stars, runs on his course through every day. And again, the earth is fixed, but the waters are continually in motion; and not the waters only, but the clouds, and the frequent and successive showers, which return at their proper season. (Homilies to Antioch, Homily XII) Clement of Rome: For it is manifest even to the unbelieving and unskillful, that the course of the sun, which is useful and necessary to the world, and which is assigned by providence, is always kept orderly; but the courses of the moon, in comparison of the course of the sun, seem to the unskillful to be inordinate and unsettled in her waxings and wanings. For the sun moves in fixed and orderly periods: for from him are hours, from him the day when he rises, from him also the night when he sets; from him months and years are reckoned, from him the variations of seasons are produced; while, rising to the higher regions, he tempers the spring; but when he reaches the top of the heaven, he kindles the summer’s heats: again, sinking, he produces the temper of autumn; and when he returns to his lowest circle, he bequeaths to us the rigor of winter’s cold from the icy binding of heaven. (Pseudo-Clementine, Bk VIII, Ch XLV) Gregory of Nyssa: “…the vault of heaven prolongs itself so uninterruptedly that it encircles all things with itself, and that the earth and its surroundings are poised in the middle, and that the motion of all the revolving bodies is round this fixed and solid center…” (On the Soul and Resurrection) 1 Timothy 6: 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Flat Earth Proof The Bible repeatedly says the Earth is Stationary, Geocentric, and enclosed in a solid dome structure called the firmament. All images of the Earth from space are admitted to be computer generated. We're able to see objects such as land, buildings, and boats that are supposed to be behind the curve. The North Star, Polaris, never moves and the constellations have never changed. Horizon always rises to eye level. Water is always level and it makes up 71% of our earth. The heliocentric model was created by Jews, Jesuits and Freemasons. All the space agencies share the same vector logo. Astronaut almost drowned in space. Water bubbles in space footage. Density, buoyancy, & Electromagnetism are better explanations for gravity. GoPro lenses used to fake the curve of Earth. No observable proof of evolution. Sun rays come down in angles and not parallel. Super zoom cameras show that boats do not go over any curve. The United Nation's logo is a Flat Earth map. Flight paths make much more sense on a Flat Earth. All but one challenger crew members are proven to still be alive. today. No genuine 24 hour live feed of the Earth from space. No real pics of Earth from Space. No actual photos of Satellites in Space. Sun dogs and Sun Hot spots. Antarctic Treaty. Admiral Byrd said that there is more land. The Michelson-Morley experiment proved the Earth is stationary. Rockets never go straight up. Bedford Level Experiment. Our own senses tell us that the earth is flat and stationary. The Sun & Moon appear as the same size. No one has ever circumnavigated the earth from north to south. The Antikythera, Sun dials, Gyroscopes, Astrolabes. No parallax with the stars. Time lapse Star Trails shows the stars makings perfect circuits around the North Star. Bolivian Salt Flats missing curvature. Sun shrinks smaller as it sets (in dry areas). Architects, Excavators, and Railroad Engineers don't account for curvature. Air planes fly level and don't account for the curve. Selenelion Lunar Eclipse. Analemma Time Lapse of the Sun. Empirical Evidence supports a level and stationary earth.

What if God said the earth was round in those times . Everybody would think the prophets were mad. God spoke toJob and His people about his sovereignty not about the subject of Science. You can build skyscrapers on a round Earth and put tiny ladders as well. Everyday in the weather news we hear about the sunrise time and sunsets . There are tons of things used in many languages today This means we are ignorant ?? When Jesus spoke to the crowd he used parables, illustrations for the ordinary people to understand. God spoke about quarantine for lepers , forbidding eating pigs, dig the ground to cover your waste matter, leave your field for a few years instead of planting every year in Deuteronomy. There are a lot of things only God could know at that time like clean and unclean animals ,birds etc. God said that life in the blood. Louis Pasteur discovered Bacteria thousands years later. Jesus multiplied fish two times. Why fish ?? This is only a teaser. Your exposé is biased and irrelevant ...

Why is it that there are so many people who haven't experienced the love of God through us and we're just sitting here arguing over the shape of the Earth which doesn't even matter.

@@wesleypuckett3861 We are called to defend the truth of the gospel and gently testify about our hope in Christ. We are called to profess truth through love. This is what Peter, Paul and the Apostle did and taught.

I agree. But remember, he is under an oath at the university he works at that forces him to accept the Bible as inherent among other things. Of course, that doesn't instantly make him wrong, but it can show how it can clout his decisions.

No argument there! Check out his debates with Paulogia. As soon as he's backed into a corner, he try's to play the "Supernatural" card. " Well, you can't discount the supernatural"

I'm wondering why you believe these arguments are "deeply flawed" could you explain this?

@@patrickfisher2817 Sure. Make a list of the arguments he references: the argument from eyewitnesses, contingency, the trillemma--all of these are bogus. Which of these do you want me to elaborate upon?

Yes, his mind is still in the Middle Ages. He uses subjective discoursive argumentation, like Aquinas et al. He has not graduated into the scientific mathematical. Three great revolutions of thought separate him from we atheists. The Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and the Scientific Revolution. His faith dies in the light of facts.

Check out Michael Ramsden as I feel he really appeals to all kinds of people and backgrounds with much more understanding.

I have just started watching Sean recently. I think he believes his perspective. He is so charming and has incredible emotional intelligence, however... he is stuck with the same arguments that every other apologist has.

well after 4 years we can safely say nobody like your comment , if you can do what he does better than he does it , why aren't you out there doing it

No, he doesn't. He used the monkey analogy as an example comparing random, single-step selection to non-random, cumulative selection. Evolution operates on the principles of the latter.

That's the weak anthropic principle. We wouldn't be able to observe our existence if we didn't exist... but that doesn't remove the need of an explanation. That's like someone sentenced to death by firing squad, every bullet missing, and then he says "Oh well, I'd only be alive to see that I was alive if I hadn't missed." He would of course wonder why they had all missed. Most of the universe is inhospitable to life, but the fact is that if those minor adjustments were made to the constants that many times planets couldn't form. Stars couldn't form. No chemistry and no life.

if it hadn't missed* (it meaning the shots fired)

Absolutely correct. But the comment on 25:03 is about the amount of information of a cell not DNA. Point is where does the information originate? Early single-called organisms often contain over 1 billion bases pairs.. Some have been discovered with as little as 500,000 base pairs. Abiotic biogenesis researcher can't explain how a couple thousand base pairs would successfully form much less 500,000. That is Sean's point.

yet.

Yes, come back in 50 years and see where the researchers are at. If researchers come up with a robust solution, it will have serious implications for theology. Currently, we know that phospholipid bilayers form can form naturally. www.nature.com/articles/s41559-019-1015-y They have also started using synthetic DNA base pairs: www.nature.com/articles/nature24659

Did you even watch the video???? My goodness, you science geeks really show your ignorance.

I wish I could spell as badly as you when putting down other peoples' intellects

Because the evidence is overwhelming if you actually do some research into it and not just listen to atheists

@@grantbartley483 "and not just listen to atheists"? So when I do my research, I should consult only research by Christians?

@@mashah1085 That would clearly be just as bad. Only one side of an argument is a biased sample.

@@grantbartley483 So you'd accept research that refutes Christianity?

@@mashah1085I would consider it refuted if you show me the proven bones of Jesus; and seriously questionable if you gave me a historically convincing reason why the witnesses of the NT were lying when they claimed to see him resurrected (this doesn't include power or wealth, as that was not available to the early church; nor group hallucination, as that fits neither the Gospel accounts nor the history of medicine). Other than that, I don't know what would disprove it. I think the problem of evil can be meaningfully addressed. But maybe you have further ideas?

Dill Doe How do you envision God revealing Himself to humanity? What does that look like for you?

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You’re right. What we need is god to come down to earth. Tell us what we need to do. Explain how life could be so much better. How we can live forever....... ah

brian keating but the Bible tells us that what has happened, but now the question is why didn't Jesus stay forever on earth and keep telling us that himself,,, I believe in the Bible and the events in the book, but I still have certain questions.

Dill Doe yes, I should believe the scientific impossibility... That nothing exploded and created everything. There's no purpose, no accountability.