You know you're an adult when nice looking spreadsheets make you happy.

I Really respect your work since I used to do the same thing on some combat game and know how much effort it takes and you're doing all that for free. I watch all your videos to learn about values about the game and how they synergize with each others. I just want to point out that while mathematically something is better on paper, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're better in game. Im not saying you said anything wrong, Im just think it should be pointed out that it always depends how applicable Math DPS is in a game. The most important factor for DPS wether its on Sword & shields or guns games is always uptime. Uptime determines which weapon will usually win between each other. I will make an easy example which I like to debate a lot why Tamer isn't as good as people believe. While its super high in DPS compared to an MP you have slow mobility. Slow Mobility equals to having a harder time repositioning for weakspots or having to dodge attacks because you can't strafe them. During that dodges and repositionings that DPS can fall down very quickly. While for example Thunder cage you don't have to dodge anything since you can outrange everything by walking and hipfiring. Your DPS uptime is arguably way higher than tamer. Im not claiming the thundercage is better or the tamer is worse. All I want to say that Applicability & Uptime is the biggest factor when converting from math to ingame where targets move. Keep up the good work and the videos, you will end up with 100k subs at this rate soon !

love your content, hopefully we get more blackboard action! I love the fact that you explain your math and how you arrived to the conclusions. Please don't stop that!

Man, I wish I could sub multiple times. Look forward to these videos. Keep it up.

I really really appreciate the amount of work and time you put into these videos ... also saves me alot of time trying to figure it out .. thank you good sir !!!!

TFD is the first game to get me hooked on a game since the first Destiny, and your videos are making me play WAY more than I want to

Soon as I saw the spreadsheet, you earned a sub. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us build techs. Watching this and your defense, skill, and weapon videos. Keep up the good work!

dude, i subbed, thank you for this spreadsheet, i love spreadsheets and this helps to narrow what weapons to put time in and experiment with

I can't wait to get my hands on perforator, the moment i saw it i was like "that'll be mine" i love the handcannons

As this game continues to blow you are also the depth that you are going to not many are willing to do thank you bro 💯

Thank you so much for the depth and quality of content put out, loving everything you do!

What a flawless video. Well done good sir. Thanks for all your hard work.

These videos going over numbers and showing math are fantastic. Great work, man.

As someone that just stumbled upon you videos. I'm really glad I did. I appreciate your layout and all the number you incorporate to your videos. As well as the dump truck load of information. (I'm a small kind math guy)

Great video! I love my hand cannons and now I have more incentive to follow this up with more testing. Subbed and thanks again.

i PLAN TO STill DO A TIER LIST BUT UPGRADING MODS AND LEVELING EACH GUN TO lvl 40 IS UNREASONABLE FOR A HUMAN HAHA. Someone will beat me too it.

Your detailed work on the math and these spreadsheets not only for weapons, but for defences and resistances are amazingly useful. You got a sub from me my guy, and I am looking forward to more content like this in the future!

Regardless if i care about the topic or not, watching you makes me feel happy for some reason. the way you explain things and your vocabulary in general is very satisfying. On top of all that the beautiful maths.

This channel is gonna explode man you're making some awesome content here!

i love naeziras, not just for the stats but the defense debuf is really good because everyone can take advantage of that

Incredible ! Thanks for your work !!

Geez man…you are the goat for content on this game. No bull just straight data. Your rock man.

I thought you already did an insane work but deckard is just a madman. Thank you for your hard work

Loving your content, keep it up!

Pretty sweet to see your sub count shoot up every time I look at a new upload😮 Valby is building right now so I'm definitely going to look into the python. Thanks for this ❤️

Hellow from RU community. Comment is posted for promotion your video and make your channel grow faster The video about DEF explaining was literally cool. Thanks a lot for all your work and calculatings.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. Just in time I have an activator and cata cooking in research thank you very much!

I've been using the assassins edge and eternal willpower on a back draft blair build for the past few days. I knew there was something to them but the numbers in this game are so cursed I couldn't varify it. Thanks to you and Deckards for your time

Bro you’re a legend, the amount of work you do to help the TLD community is truly tremendous !! Much appreciated 🙏

I've never had an easier time subscribing to someone. In your video about Defense, you mentioned you were testing every single gun and I figured it'd take you a few days. Nope, here we are. (Also, shoutout to Deckards for compiling that spreadsheet.)

Been waiting for this so much!!!!!

I love the math. You got a new subscriber

The thing for SMGs is that between the Python and the TCage the difference in Crit is MASSIVE in favor of the TCage and general rounds have the biggest mod-multipliers on Crit out of all Ammo types. So even with the TCage behind on that spreadsheet, you will probably come VERY close to the Python in terms of Single Target damage due to the MUCH better scaling with Crit Mods (except if you play chars that can use the Pythons special effect) and completely outshine it for farming/AoE content. IF you can hit weakspots consistently, then the x2 modifier of the Python can take that weapon ahead again, but would only make it more useful over the TCage in bosssfights, where you can consistently go after the Weakspots. So i think the sheet is great, but only to compare weapons of the same ammo type with each other, BEFORE to even consider bringing Mods into the game and compare how the Mods for the specific type affects the stats differently. :)

Great work to see, love your content definitely earned a sub. I currently got the Wave of Light cooking rn, I'd recommend talking a closer look at this weapon because if you factored in the buffs that you'd get from it, it may be higher on the list. Also it being a scout rifle means it's much more versatile than a hand cannon.

Thanks for the video. I actually have a really good rolled Immediate Execution hand cannon and decided to keep it, I am now glad that I did.

Keep it up man. I love your videos.

I love content based on math and numbers, keep going and thanks!

Thanks for this i was already looking at handcannons to have a good secondary and the weakpoint and crit for them seemed very good

This was amazing, thank you for sharing. And for your next analysis, the reload factor can also be used in a 'perfect scenario' with reload cancels made by grappling mid reload, each weapon has a different timing, but that could impact performance on a min-max build

You're the best . Easy sub for me bro keep up God's work 💪

and that's how you make numbers fun , since i started watching your videos i kinda start like doing math even tho i hated that sht from the bottom of mu heart xD turns out you can like stuff you usually don't when you start doin or using them on things you like or love . Thanks for the info really informative and makes me wonder what kind of new weapons we might get later on .

Great work! I’ve been actually using Neistra hand cannon all day today and it’s amazing! Around lv. 30 right now but I’ll work on maxing it tomorrow and see how crazy I can get it. The headshot multiplier is pretty wild. Even some “elite” types are getting two shot and similar

that dopamine hit when i start playing a new game and all the math nerds give me the data i crave. i appreciate you guys fr

The level of dedication merits a subscription and a like🕺

Banger after banger! This man dont stahp

Bro is Blowing up! You deserve it bro!

Hellow from UA community. Comment is posted for promotion your video and make your channel grow faster ❤ The video about DEF explaining was literally cool. Thanks a lot for all your work and calculatings.

I love the DPS table, small suggestion from a fellow min/maxer / Excel-builder: Add 2 extra columns to the DPS output. First being % of shots that actually hit an enemy and adjust them based on weapon type (shotgun/sniper/hand cannon/etc). No one has perfect aim, and not every pellet from the shotgun is going to hit. This column will make your DPS a bit more realistic. For the second column, give a % of the shots that hit, that will hit a weak spot. Bosses/enemies will not always have a weak spot that you can easily aim for. but that doesn't mean we stop shooting. Also, during out spray of bullets, even if we are aiming at a weak spot, not every bullet/pellet is going to land on it. Using these two columns you can get a much more refined DPS output. A 3rd column could even be added where you give unique weapons an average multiplier based on how you believe their unique ability will boost that guns overall damage output. (a final/future suggestion would be to calculate what mods would most boost that weapon ie. weapons with low base crit chance will not benefit from +% crit chance mods as much as they might from reload speed, or accuracy, but I don't know of a great way to do this yet)

nice vid overall, you already pointed out some outliers and caveats with ultimate weapon abilities. just wanna point out that pretty much every shotgun reload timers are per shell while the smithereen reloads the full mag so im not sure if thats something being factored into. theres also other things like tamer being able to utilize mental focus well and shotguns having multishot mod to make up for their (weak) weakpoint multipliers.

Respect guys. This is great work.

You’re the man, thank you for the sheet.

I'm new to the channel. Great job!! 👍

I am grinding for days now towards the python and was really reliefed that the Python didn't come in your sheet until you started sorting ... now I have to continue my grind

Dude keep up the content the detailed videos and all of the numbers is awesome, I can’t lie it’s hard for me to keep up sometimes but THATS NOT YOU, that’s my brain processing slower. Lol keep up the content man have fun with your content and don’t forget we as viewers will also enjoy you just farming the game and slaying out too

that Freyna ult ammo tip was something I did not know. Thanks

i learn so much everytime you post lol time to farm perforator

Great vid, and thanks to everyone for compiling the data! I would say something to consider is standard engagement ranges for a Colossus fight are actually pretty far which is where I have seen hand cannons suffer as their drop off is pretty early. Another factor is burst DPS, as we frequently want to get as much damage inside the knockdown window as that won't affect the enrage meter so something like a hand cannon here is probably pretty insane.

devs said gley is working as intended

you know it's good info if there's a spreadsheet, amazing video

Nice Work! thanks man ! i play freyna and have the fallan on nearly 300k dmg :D with the perk and its NUTS! :D i hope for nice dungeons and all stuff comming in the further!

Thanks for another great vid! Eternal Willpower for everything lol. Seriously, that gun carried me to the end of the story and through all level 100 hard mode content. I found myself doing more damage with eternal Willpower over Tamer because if a boss or target is moving constantly (like hangman Colossus), burst/controlled shots is better because the weapon hitting harder in a few shots versus sustained firing will win. Plus I think one of the reasons Eternal WIllpower is so good is because of the crit rate and crit damage multiplier. Just have to get used to the recoil if using 'Action and Reaction' mod. Plus correct me if I am wrong but I think the damage type being "pierce" damage may be ignoring some defense/armor of enemies?

Thanks for your hard work

Hellow from RU community.The video about DEF explaining was literally cool. Comment is posted for promotion your video and make your channel grow faster

Thank you for doing all of this math that I will never be able to do on my own :)

Wow thats a lot of work. Thank you. I was gonna get enduring Legacy because I am an LMG guy. I just reallly like the feel of dakka in the morning but seeing the scout rifle's up there is great too i enjoy them and wasnt sure which one to hang on to. Its funny how the best feeling rare scout rifle is the lowest on the list when modules are used.

Awesome stuff, would love to see some stuff on Blair in the future. Not seen anyone coming out with guides or builds for him. With what I understand is a consensus of him being weak

Holy Damm ive Never Seen someone so smart about a Game, Respekt for your work m8

I really appreciate that you give people the information needed to put together their own build rather than just the typical "use this because i said so". Also, shotguns are decent on Ajax because he can stand beside the bosses and smash weak points.

I actually adore you, sir.

Really appreciate the effort to crunch all these numbers for the community. Unfortunately i don't have the ability level to take full advantage of weak point damage😅

TY for grinding info!

Glad you did this I been putting all my hand cannons I thought where decent away

Having a hard time unlocking python😭i have all the regular materials but the rest been brutal , gj on content

Your videos are awesome

I always noticed that Eternal Willpower had something in it, saw a lot of people using it, the only issue I have with non-ultimate weapons is that they start empty, Ultimates starts with 2 slots already placed, which reduces the effort needed to finish them.

Hey i love the videos and the work you put into them. Can you make a video on how to farm the Python the best way? :)

My Devo is almost maxed out, and let me tell you, this thing slaps. Plus the big -def debuff. At max it is -30% def pen. It doesn't hit as hard as the Perf, but it will make your whole team hit extremely hard. I have both of the snipers as well, but I use the Piercing Light. What I do is land a Devo shot to apply debuff, switch to PL, and land a snipe shot. The highest I hit so far was a 12.5 million crit. And this is without having pushed the sniper up yet. ALSO, the hand cannons just feel so satisfying :)

I've been sticking to Eternal Willpower as my main AR strictly because it looks like a G-36c. I had NO IDEA it was actually a contender for a meta pick lmao. Thanks for your work, have a decent idea of what a herculean effort this was.

Hey, just want to say that I really enjoy your work on this. I used your dps formula to work out the best mods for my python and could potentially be able to make the most cracked out one. I'm done with the duplicates and will get it's unique ability to max once i'm done with crafting. Then i would just need to grind out the prestiges, probably over the weekend. I think it's gonna be really really strong once i'm done, still trying to find the best descendant to pair it with tho.

This is awesome, thanks for the hard word my dude. Appreciate it.

Yeah I’m actively working on perforator because I have it and the dps has been so much better than the tamer so far and it fits bunny’s style of play more because it where I got my god roll stars for her. So you’re def onto something. I’ll let you know what it looks like fully min maxed

Dude's channel about to blow up

I've been using Assassin's Edge since the drop, building for Weak Point Damage+Crit Damage and it is insane how good it is as single target. Perfect pairing with my Valby for a balance of AoE skills with single target guns. Much love from a former Destiny buildcrafter.

nice, assassin's edge and immediate execution were the weapons i use going through the story and really liked using. I still use Immediate execution as an off-hand weap but I havent built it yet.

The first spreadsheeet, how do i make a copy so i can edit the weapon builder, when i make a copy all the data is gone from the shhet?

Hi thank you for the videos, they are great! Wingman meta in Apex Legends is in The First Descendant? Things I've noticed while using your sheet: -Tactical rifles are way below the expected rank... does the numbers account for the tactical rifle's burst shot characteristic? Not to mention not all tactical rifles are 3-burst -Beam rifles are also below, which while expected, seems to be tied to the game's clunkiness in handling beam rifles. -Shotguns, while up in the rank if heavy rounds are included, seems to actually suffer more in the fact the game also doesn't like when bullets overkill a target. Like if you shoot a shotgun in the lab clumped together with invincibility off, it will only hit 1 target, and the corpse will "sponge" the other bullets. -Handguns are surprisingly in the middle of ground, despite being closer to "autopistols" which is peculiar, but then again they handle well and have minimal movement speed penalty.

your doing god's work

Was already hunting wave of light before I watched the vid. I'm so excited to get it. Need 2 more parts.

I'm curious how unique abilities will affect from weapons in the spreadsheet, such as nazeistra's devotion. Will it outdamage perforator with its -30% defence debuff, or will it have a damage drop off in the late game? I'd love to see an in-depth video on that as well and see a final result on them. Anyways, you are a legend for making such informative and helpful videos for us, thanks!

That's cool I've been running a tamer and assasins edge for a while good to know my gut had it right

Thank you for all the work. its good to know what to invest in. i went for rocket gley its nice... but i all so like to use thunder cage for when i want to see what i do :) im tempted to max out mental focus that is 150% more damage.. and with endless amo you can keep the 150 stack up

I made a similar spreadsheet myself for snipers/hand cannons, with the difference that I have DPS values for a standardized mod set. I came up with very similar findings to you, with a couple of differences: - The afterglow is the single best sniper once you factor in mods, and it isn't even close. Even without factoring in the excellent unique effect it has nearly a 10% DPS increase over second place, and the second-highest ammo efficiency. The rest are fairly comparable once you've included mods. Interestingly, the snipers and hand cannons have comparable DPS modded despite the ammo being a potential concern for snipers. - The perforator, explorer's path, and assassin's edge are interchangeable, with a roughly 2% DPS spread between them. It has a fairly weak shield break on its passive, but loses accuracy from it too, so I'd actually suggest the assassin's edge with high crit rate and crit damage lines if you play solo. The perforator does, however, get a significant edge up if you have Enzo in your team since his Q mod increases base crit. If you plan on trying to min-max the game with a team of 4 then Enzo will always make the cut because of how that mod allows you to spec into crit damage on any weapon and you should aim for the perforator instead of the explorer's path or assassin's edge.

Finally, a real data sheet to understand what's best for which setup. I will be running Thunder cage, Assassins edge and Tamer.

I really hope they will improve the individuality of builds in the future. Currently it basically feels like you just focus on the Weapons and the Character doesnt matter too crazy much. And the weapon builds are Also mostly damage up, fire rate up and crit up, there you go. So hoping for more special builds in the future:)

Seeing your channel grow over the past week is awesome! I wanted to ask you, in your opinion, mathematically what is the ultimate set up for thunder cage. It looks like weak points will be the way to go.

I've been using an Assassin's Edge since early levels. It has another thing going for it that you did not factor for, good status effect chance AND good crit chance/damage. Status effect damage is affected by crits and a burn proc is around the equivalent of putting 6-8 rounds into the enemy before accounting for resistances.

Love this dude

I'm sticking to my handgun/sidearm for fun. Also the movement with sidearms is amazing

Hand Cannons do sercretly slap, I'll have to check out the top one next, been running Nazeistra's as a secondary because it just surprisingly hit very hard even though the DPS was showing it as much weaker. I think the ally shielding mechanic is totally broken though but maybe something you can research further!

Hell yeah another video!