Searching for the ULTIMATE pumping configuration in Stormworks!

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Searching for the ULTIMATE pumping configuration in Stormworks!

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In this video, 454ss tests various pump setups to determine the best way to pump liquids into other chambers! Some great conclusions are reached.
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@fishercyza5366 Ай бұрын

Make a multi outlet connector with multiple fluid connectors at the docking point, maybe on the end of a boom

@AssassinAgent 7 ай бұрын

Damn good timing, I've been designing an oil tanker today and I was wondering what would be a good way to unload it

@grit9938 7 ай бұрын

I would be interested to see how filters affect the result, and how to optimize pumping back into a tank which used compressed air to empty.

@454ss_gaming 7 ай бұрын

That is part of my next test!!

@dubst3pboii 7 ай бұрын

I’ve seen on Reddit that having multiple ins and outs on one pump make it quicker 2 ins and 4 outs on a large pump is fastest

@ProwlProwler 7 ай бұрын

@454ss_gaming I am sorry to be the one to give you the bad news but all your tests are flawed in this video as well as all other videos in the past regarding fluid tests. Please take my message as inspiration for improvement and not criticism. The error is in not considering the following: 1. the fluid port position do not guarantee that you pull liquid or fluid. Ports pull everything in the container no matter on position so your sucking things that are not being metered. The test bench does not account for pressure and volume for both fluid and gas which is what the pump is moving without the use of filters. 2. Using filters should be only on the inlet of the pump right after the port because placing a filter after a pump will result in gridlock of a fluid or gas that cannot escape. Trying to vent that gridlock after the pump will make the pump move un-necessary fluid or gas for no reason. Yes it is slower placing it in front of a pump because of restriction and vacuum/pressure but that is Stormworks for you. 3.The series pumps do not move more volume but might increase preassure. (not measured) This is getting long and I'm just getting started. I want to help you and the viewers to put a stop at all the misconceptions that fool the players by misinformation. "Shoot the messenger" Lets talk on discord, I want to help.

@454ss_gaming 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the well thought out comment, and do not worry, I am not offended, but inspired! I just disagree and dislike with your statement of me putting out "misconceptions that fool the players by misinformation". I am by no means an expert, but the tests did prove to me how to transfer fluid quickly. I agree, it did not test every variable, the use of filters, pressure, etc., but these are practical systems that work for the fast transfer of fluid (albeit ignoring other factors). Please let us discuss these points: 1. I understand this, the pumps were pulling everything from the chamber. 2. Placing the filter before the pump slows it down, as you mentioned, where placing it after does not - I am curious, at what point does "gridlock of a fluid or gas that cannot escape", because I did not run into this problem? 3. This would be a good test to see the pressure of series pumps :) I will gladly do another video testing other variables! I wanted to test the effect of filters, effect of one pump with multiple inlets, etc.

@454ss_gaming 7 ай бұрын

Please feel free to message me on Discord or on my server and lets talk!

@ProwlProwler 7 ай бұрын

@@454ss_gaming Awesome, thanks. Yes, when pumping large volumes, I have encountered that pumps with a filter on outlet starts to accumulate pressure buildup of the opposite (filtered substance) in the pipes between filter and pump until a pressure threshold point they cannot overcome hindering flow to stop. Since the pump is also acting as a valve the filtered substance pressurized between pump and filter cannot escape when the pump stops. This hinders the system to become useless. Here is an example video from Frantic trying to sell oil and pressure-locking the selling station because the sell station has nowhere for gas pressure to escape at the moment. It could have been avoided by placing the filter before the pump as to not allow air into the system in the first place. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6qFpJZp3M2to2w.htmlfeature=shared

@jasonleach2961 7 ай бұрын

I’m think you need to test by pumping the air/atmosphere the opposite direction to equalize the pressure. That would probably explain why the pressure canister tests go faster, because you are forcing a much higher pressure in the source tank. I wonder if you use 2 pumps in one direction for the diesel and 2 pumps in the opposite direction how fast it would go.

@neo2264 7 ай бұрын

Could you clarify/reword that? I can't quite understand what you mean. Pumping air from where to where in the opposite direction to equalize pressure between what and what?

@jasonleach2961 7 ай бұрын

@@neo2264So you're pumping diesel from tank a to tank b; you will also need to test pumping air, or the atmosphere, from tank b back to tank a at the same time. I believe the pressurized tank injecting atmosphere into the source tank is giving you such an imbalanced source pressure, that it's forcing the liquid into the destination tank, obviously. But I would think in the long run, it would slow down to the same speed as just pumping diesel from tank a to tank b - think of a larger / tanker pumping from a to b. You should also test like this - having 2 pumps pumping diesel from tank a to tank b; and also 2 pumps pumping atmosphere from tank b back to tank a - to keep all the atmosphere pressures 'equalized'. I believe long term tests would prove this useful.

@PresidentCamacho2024 7 ай бұрын

true, my best design pumps fluid in at 25atm, because 60 is the maximum pressure, and air needs to flow out at the same rate, 25+25 = 50atm

@WolfsRainESP 5 күн бұрын

What if tank A is the whole sea and tank B a submarine ballast tsnk? How do you optimally transfer liquid and gas?

@KanelTheBullar 7 ай бұрын

When you use method with gas tanks, most of that volume that moved is just gas. Instead of testing with custom tanks, use fluid tanks, tooltip details will show what is going on

@gernith 7 ай бұрын

Could you upload this test rig to the workshop so we can play with it? I'd like to play around with things and compare to your results.

@huyzahuy6534 7 ай бұрын

what about with letting atmospheric pressure, so instead making a vacuum - let them suck fluid out

@KanelTheBullar 7 ай бұрын

But there is a catch, when tanks spawns liquid inside of it, it spawns with full volume of air as well, so pump is pumping not only liquid but air as well. So when you measure how much it volume pumps, half of it is just air

@KanelTheBullar 7 ай бұрын

And pumps always pump air and liquid together, unless there is liquid relief valve or gas relief valve

@Forcemaster2000 7 ай бұрын

On the system using a tank of air to increase pressure, you could also just dispense with the tank and use a pump to push ambient air into the system, saving space. (EDIT) LOL, you beat me to it!

@454ss_gaming 7 ай бұрын

:D I tried and it did not give good results! I think if I added pressure first, then released, it would go faster, but that would take more time!

@user-bs9yn5uz7n 7 ай бұрын

And for the next thing to test: is it faster to pump with a pump or with pure compressed air?

@flaxe1701 7 ай бұрын

Try to pump air in with an impeler because it presuerize the chamber

@MrPupsi 7 ай бұрын

So with all these pumping tests you now did, i wonder: Whast system should i use? I am currently building a tanker truck to transport Diesel for example. But i am not sure what system i should use if i dont want to wait ages for it to get full and empty.