this show is nothing compared to good times just imagine what james would do!!

It got worse when she got drunk with her friends and Denise had to bring her home and again when Vanessa took off with her friends to see The Wretched in concert in Baltimore behind her parents back. AND again when she got engaged to Dabnis and didn't tell her family.

Jaleesa Trevelyan Don't forget when she lied to her parents to go see Jeremy

My favorite was the Wretched

@@jaleesatrevelyan1510 And don't forget her lying about her age and identity at Hillman so she could go out with Dwayne

Jaleesa Trevelyan I'm saving all of these lines from when I'm a parent

+Wiremu Winiata Not a good idea. If you noticed in Season 6 episode 5 Vanessa defended Theo to them on his dyslexia. Season 6 episode 3 Theo defended Vanessa concerning the drinking and too much pressure. Hinted about the not talking to her about that. Season 7 episode 3 or 4, Denise, Theo, Vanessa and Rudy teamed up and got on them about they do to them too. Also Cliff tall tailed stories. Clair ended up siding with the children. Clair is a hypocrite the way she bend over backwards for Sondra and inferior to Theo until his dyslexia and not giving Vanessa recognition and she gets good grades. Also she had some trouble, but she learned her lesson like Sondra. Sondra had some trouble too but Clair was hardly harsh at all with her. Denise had to use some trump cards to make her point.

I'm sorry, how does this prove that I shouldn't use this line on my kid?

why do kids always say that stuff "and I should be punished"..........ummmmm why you snitching on yourself to be more in trouble.....smh

haaaaaaaa

Sounds like your parents didnt care too much about you...

That's quite the leap without a safety net, TMG. There's zero indication of such in her statement.

in the wrong way, yeah makeup isnt a big deal. they act like its a drug bust or something

@@youmustcreateachanne for real....that was a reach....🙄

victor moonshine In a conservative black household it’s a big deal!

Had me in tears...🤣🤣

I start wearing make up at 13 teen but it was light eyeliner and light lipstick you still could tell I was a young girl not a grown woman.

Cliff: And that's all I have to say😄😄😊😊

Than she gets drunk.

+Legion Ivory After stuffing her bra for a music vid.

+Legion Ivory WITH THE WRETCHED!

+Legion Ivory Not to mention sneaking out to meet with her boyfriend and lying to her parents about it.

oklik how about when she didn't tell Clair and Cliff about Dabnis?

good times was more realer this this show just imagine thelma jj and Michael in this scene lol

Jerome Holloman It wasn’t realer for some of us conservative folks! Maybe it was just realer for people like you!!

He will need it

Xx. . Mm

@@kathynicole1673 🖐 I have a question...to what kind of person do you believe you're referring to when you say, "people like you"?

Yes sir, one of them.

HoLa

@@mylesburris3885 HoLa

Buenos noche

@@shernieferguson1731 Hola To you also, thank you

BIG SEXXY77 year 2019 & it’s even worse. Tutorials for days. When I was a kid in the 90’s all I needed was a chapstick and my lip gloss. Sigh.

True Facts

Now kids look like their 20

Lord knows what it would of been like back then if KZfaq and makeup tutorials existed in the 90’s.

Yep, but it's worse because we don't stop them when they do little things. Parents don't parent. They feed kids and let them raise themselves.

The parents must not like Rebecca, yet they did not outright say so anyway.

@@ambermedellin6832who is Rebecca

The Huxtables

My conclusion is Denise was just sneaky nothing crazy. Theo and Vanessa got into most trouble though some of Theos issues where from his parents not recognizing his dyslexia.

The show never said that. Reality did.

I think Denise was more lazy and unreliable than rebellious

To be fair, she never did do it again when she promised. She just did other terrible things every time 😂

@@KraXoom exactly

People move.

😂 he’s her brother so he had to

She probably was at first,then she went downstairs

caramelhoney29-Did Theo tell Vanessa the wrong information on purpose? 😆 That wasn't nice!

He obviously lied 😂

Omg yes! 🤣😅

Yup same reason kids hate early bedtimes and naps and then as adults we all want to sleep anytime lol

@@sheena9p90 Back when I was in preschool and kindergarten our naptimes were always after lunch. I never would fall asleep; I was never tired. Now as an adult, I get sleepy in the afternoons; I think it finally caught up with me! If I can go back in time, I would tell the preschooler/kindergarten me to take a nap in the afternoons; take advantage of this! Or else, you'll be tired as an adult!

@@sheena9p90 Humans want what they can’t have. The forbidden fruit complex is a big deal in our brains. Once something is no longer forbidden and is available in abundance, you get tired of it.

Yup. I prefer my skin to breathe. Most times.

Nice one!

What's Claire and Phylicia Nuevo nomenclaturas. Gracia Gracia Para ayuda. Amor

I know . . . who could forget when she lied and snuck out to see Jeremy. Oh and the BIG FUN IN BALTIMORE! Oohhhh, she got it good from Claire then.

@@LuvTadnDixie When I watch the episode with the "Big FUN with the Retched in Baltimore" I still cringe when Claire is yelling at Vanessa.

I can't stand her character.

@@ambermedellin6832 At least her character was realistic

The best actor out of all the children imo.

That’s the momma!

I was never allowed to wear makeup. 😂 I think I stopped begging to wear makeup in 4th grade. I was 10 years old. One of the girls in my class did put the makeup on me. Mother saw my face and went totally apeshit over it. Went to the school and had a conference with the teacher. That was the end of that…..🤣

😂😂😂😂

12380smusic123 she was always beautiful

She is a stunning women indeed.

Phylicia is beautiful but bernadette (jj sister good times)is more beautiful

😂😂😂😂

I think she auditioned for Sondra but Sabrina's theater background help even though she wasn't that much younger than Phylicia. Oh well Whitney had to settle for becoming a music legend!!! R.I.P. Nippy 🙌

No goddamn sympathy.

That's the angriest she's ever been

Vanessa deserved it though.

jhgjhggj yeah yuk

There was a scene at the kitchen counter where you could sort of see her bump

Well yeah, she used things to block her stomache. They could not write her being pregnant again in the show.

shevonnie salmon and Rudy followed in her footsteps but they were over all this mess

She probably wasn't considering Rudy who would have been only like 8 at this tine and wasn't doing disrespectful things like this yet.....

Sondra, Denise, Vanessa and Rudy

She had been thru with Sondra and Denies and Vanessa makes 3 Rudy had yet to do it. Theo the male child stunt at 13 was an ear piercing

And Theo also purposely dropped Claire's"Waterproof," watch in a sink full of water to test how waterproof it was. It got ruined and Claire was understandably pissed Theo was also 13 when he did that stunt. 🙄 You'd think at 13 he'd know better than to pull the waterproof watch test stunt. It would have been VERY understandable if he was only like 8 and did that.

I couldn’t wear make up period until I was 18. Make up is not allowed in Australian schools.

What kind of school did you go to in Australia?

What?

I know it's an old comment, but wanted to explain. If you're talking about Rudy wearing lipstick when she was trying to go to the Exchange club. Claire handled them the same way. When she found out Vanessa was wearing make-up, she told her no makeup until she was 15. That was it. The grounding happened after Vanessa deliberately chose to wear makeup the next day -being hardheaded. When Rudy wore the lipstick, Cliff & Claire made her wipe it off. No makeup for her either. But she went behind their backs again, wore makeup & went to a club. Then their punishment for her was more creative. lol

She did!!

Hypocrites.

Last child benefits

Theo said that the baby of the family always get aways with things

What year was it when you were 13? This was was 1986. So it might have been acceptable during at your age depending on the year and how your mother felt about makeup.

Mo To I was not allowed to wear makeup or date until I was 16 and I was only allowed to wear soft neutral colors, no dark reds or black. I thought my mom was overly strict compared to all my friends mother's who allowed them to wear makeup and date when they were 13 and some 12 years of age. It wasn't until I became an adult that I understand the reasoning behind it without my mother explaining it to me. By the way most of my friends that were allowed to wear makeup and date at very young age ended up becoming teenage mom's. Enough said. Thank you mother.

Mo To No that's were your wrong. Dating at 16 is a conservative age, I was already a junior in highschool with good grades. And no I never made her a grandmother until my late 30s. So you're wrong.

Mo To You don't know that because you don't know all of the teenage woman of the work that dated at 16, so you truly can't say that. However, every circumstance is different and it all depends on how involved a parent is with their teen. It's about good parenting and good parenting is not allowing your teenage to do whatever they please and it also means not being overbearing. You can't raise your child in a bubble and expect them to come out perfect. That'll will blow up any any parent's face.

There's usually a reason why parents make rules. In this case it's because a 13 year old girl needs makeup about as much as a 5 month old needs an iPhone. It's also about the principle: obeying your parents because they know what's best for you. After all, they've been around a while longer than we have, and have learned valuable lessons and have gained invaluable wisdom. Just food for thought. :)

I'm not fully prejudiced against parents with strict personalities; just some lame fictional ones. Unfortunately, Clair and Bill Huxtable (mostly Clair) would fail to be my most hated. Just like Danny Tanner (a "Full House" character). No wonder. EDIT: Tell me it's about sides.

Part of the reason to wear makeup is to get a boyfriend. Many parents rightfully believe that 13 is too young to be thinking about such a thing.

​@@TheRivrPrncessAnd they are right

Denise decided to go back to college after she got married, though.

I agree

No the worst ones were when she lied to be with Jeremy and then she got drunk with her "friends" and then the big kahuna, she lied to go to Baltimore for big fun and when her friend's brother's car got stolen they didn't report it to the police (it's almost as if they were saying "his car his problem boo hoo") and boy she got it!!!

I'm referring to Vanessa in general. Vanessa was the worst of the lot.

+thehoosierfortheUK You forgot "doing the locomotion" with a revealing outfit and stuffed cleavage.

Vanessa didn't always make the best decisions lol. First the whole Jeremy debacle, and then the sneaking off to Baltimore. And almost getting married her first year away from home smh.

Oh yeah she was the number one trouble maker. Def. And this was just the start of it. And weird how Theo was the normal one. Huh?? Lol

It is implied that Claire and Bill hated Vanessa's female classmates.

There are rules that are better than the no makeup thing going on.

i wouldnt say that too my mom

Damn straight! I wish I would have fixed my mouth to say some of the things these young folks say to their moms today. Even today I wouldn't say those things.

MsTexas73 i agree1000