Season Finale Fan Special [Commander VS 305] | Magic: the Gathering Commander Gameplay

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Күн бұрын

This Commander gameplay is dedicated to you the fans! Join the crew for a special fan-requested episode of Commander VS!
Are you on team Jeremy, Corey, Jonathan, or Stephen? Let us know who you picked in the comments!
00:00 - Intro
04:02 - Gameplay
53:56 - Outro
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@SCGCommander
@SCGCommander Жыл бұрын
Decklists are here! articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/commander-vs-305-fan-request-special/
@robertfraser5221
@robertfraser5221 Жыл бұрын
i think it would be hilarious if you each picked what you think is the worst commander there is and you each randomly pick one and try to make a deck with it.
@Mr_Dood01
@Mr_Dood01 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't so big on Corey at the start, but ive come to love the banter than him and Stephen have developed
@zacharywiesel900
@zacharywiesel900 Жыл бұрын
this episode was the epitome of everyone saying " i am on a 7" and it not being true
@mrdjuggernaut
@mrdjuggernaut Жыл бұрын
Naw that deck is a 7 lol an 8 at absolute best. He had a strong start. Now the power level was above everyone else’s for sure.
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdjuggernaut In what world is dockside in a 7 lol
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 9 ай бұрын
@Lucarioguild7 I mean, it's from a pretty meh precon, which is well below a 7. One card doesn't make a deck cEDH.
@ethan2670
@ethan2670 Жыл бұрын
Jon spiking the table with piles of tutors and dockside with blink effects? Color me shocked.
@dragonreaper9288
@dragonreaper9288 Жыл бұрын
Soon as I saw a Feather Deck I knew the outcome.
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
Yup. I don’t really want to finish watching. I’m on 17 minutes and Feather is just so miserable to play against, I am having secondhand misery.
@dragonreaper9288
@dragonreaper9288 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonholmes5714 Yeah I lasted about that long also before stopping. I realized there was no point anymore after that mark. So miserable a watch.
@kyleyoobs1218
@kyleyoobs1218 Жыл бұрын
Saw feather at deck reveal and saw the others what they were playing and scrolled to the end because I knew the outcome already. Power levels of the decks really should be looked at when fan submitted.
@allstarjason
@allstarjason Жыл бұрын
@@jasonholmes5714 As someone who owns and plays a Feather deck of similar power level to Jon's, this episode was kind of illuminating. The deck is massively fun for me to pilot, but watching as a viewer or opponent I realized it was incredibly boring to have to watch play out. The deck has inevitability but it's just playing the same cards over and over which gets stale fast. Couple that with the fact that it doesn't really kill that fast either and you have the feel bad situation of the game essentially being "over" but the game not actually ending for several turns after the Feather deck has control.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
This game is prime example of PTMTGSD for anyone that has played against a Feather deck LOL
@tinosdragatsis
@tinosdragatsis Жыл бұрын
Cory made Jeremy and Jon facepalm was beautiful. Surely a card up his sleeve.
@Reaperherpderp
@Reaperherpderp Жыл бұрын
Jon suddenly plays a way more powerful deck compared to the rest of the group and wins the season because of it... I'm shocked
@thetruthisoutthere8714
@thetruthisoutthere8714 Жыл бұрын
Jon lost the season because Steven was robbed a point 2 episodes ago, they're tied at the end which goes to Steven, as I believe he won more games.
@davidschmoyer9494
@davidschmoyer9494 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for playing my deck Jeremy! Man Suarez really just took off with the game didn't he lol
@igorkollar6674
@igorkollar6674 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to Suarez to pick the most degenerate deck possible :D Always delivers
@dreconius
@dreconius Жыл бұрын
So the other day Justin announced on Twitter he won't be returning to star city. He will be missed but hopefully Corey stays. He's awesome even though he's new to commander.
@phgtxxx5028
@phgtxxx5028 Жыл бұрын
Hope Star City reads the comments on this one.
@roycecooley3387
@roycecooley3387 Жыл бұрын
You can just feel that everyone playing against Feather was having a terrible time. Seems like they need to have a discussion ahead of time on what everyone is bringing. Really boring game to watch compared to past games and a terrible way to end a season. Appreciate how the rest of the table is able to have a good time regardless of how toxic the deck they are playing against.
@thenewlollipopjam8248
@thenewlollipopjam8248 Жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree. The deck fit the parameters of the episode, and I'm going to assume that they each knew what the other was playing before the episode started.
@thomhitzelberger7876
@thomhitzelberger7876 Жыл бұрын
lol yep i knew within 5 min who would win the game. I play a Feather Deck and mine is no where near as tuned as this one was.
@sxysamurai
@sxysamurai Жыл бұрын
@@thenewlollipopjam8248 Ok, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if this was the first time Jon had a deck that was clearly more powerful than the rest of the table, but it's not and it's become quite common.
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType Жыл бұрын
@@sxysamurai EXACTLY!!! Jon does this ALL THE TIME! If he is the last chair or losing that season, he takes a theme week deck, does the absolute bare minimum to qualify for the theme, the builds some pile that is clearly outside of what the rest of the table is doing. It’s about the ONLY thing more annoying than him constantly saying “hold on, I might have a response” ALL THE TIME when he knows he doesn’t. Having Jon at the table is like that spikey tournament player we all were happy to leave behind when we started playing Commander instead of competitive formats.
@DoctorPhanan
@DoctorPhanan Жыл бұрын
Indications of people having a terrible time: Laughing, joking, smiling, and banter. Like you can say what you want about how the game was imbalanced and not fun to watch, but I don't understand how you can infer that the cast was "having a terrible time."
@marceljones7940
@marceljones7940 Жыл бұрын
15 min in and I skipped to the end, because jon had essentially won at that point. kinda unfortunate that jons deck was so overpowered
@Sandhawk89
@Sandhawk89 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even get 15 mins in. I really liked this season but then we get this. :(
@michaelkelly5469
@michaelkelly5469 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was the same, I made it about 12 minutes in before I skipped to the end
@famousstranger8468
@famousstranger8468 Жыл бұрын
Grow up ffs
@vince10
@vince10 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler :)
@warpedadventures9707
@warpedadventures9707 Жыл бұрын
@@famousstranger8468 ironic
@toddherink4234
@toddherink4234 Жыл бұрын
good ole' dockside extortionist abuse, what a great card
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
I think you misspelled dumb.
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 Жыл бұрын
Now I know why Ive never seen feather win they wer all budget decks plus everyone acted like they weren't
@masterservitude4826
@masterservitude4826 Жыл бұрын
finished watching another commander vs video and then this popped up haha! perfect timing
@MrUglama
@MrUglama Жыл бұрын
Corey and Stephen should always sit next to each other, their energy is great!
@zachbuchter
@zachbuchter Жыл бұрын
This is like at the end of Cars when Lighting McQueen stops before the end of the finish line to make sure the King finishes his last race and he gets the moral victory, then Chick Hicks crosses the finish line to get the technical win. Remember kids, if you play Feather, you're Chick Hicks . . . No one likes a Chick Hicks
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
Bullet train: ''Everything I learned about people I learned from Thomas'' ...and people who play Feather are a bloody Diesel! LOL
@thetruthisoutthere8714
@thetruthisoutthere8714 Жыл бұрын
Steven is missing his save point from 2 episodes ago, when you all messed up the stack resolution. Steven was leading at the start of this episode, and tied for the season win.
@brendan8114
@brendan8114 Жыл бұрын
glad i'm not the only one who noticed that one
@savagesnadgaming7252
@savagesnadgaming7252 Жыл бұрын
Second this
@brendan8114
@brendan8114 Жыл бұрын
another major thing that happened screwed over stephen, when jon did his boardwipe, it was a -4/-4 effect, so the 2 juris on the field that they said shot stephens big boys would've died with 0 power, so they would've only shot for 0 damage, not 2 and 1 like they thought
@vincentaponte5726
@vincentaponte5726 Жыл бұрын
Now I love to watch a deck go off as much as the next person but I have to second all the comments of someone should be assessing the power level of the decks. I'm not sure if Jon just drew the nuts or not but most Feather decks I know are insanely powerful and difficult to deal with. Commander pods should have a rule zero conversation somehow. You guys should too. It clearly wasn't a good time for anyone else. These fan submissions decks are always so fun to watch and I hate that we missed getting to see most of the decks at the table. This was an episode I'd have loved to see run back for the funzies with Jon picking another fan submission. Congrats on the "started from the bottom" win. Keep up the great content.
@Knight350002
@Knight350002 Жыл бұрын
They have a do not play on commander vs list. But I’m not sure how it interacts with the fan submissions
@vincentaponte5726
@vincentaponte5726 Жыл бұрын
@@Knight350002 oh that is very interesting. I actually didn't know that! I know they have certain things they frowned upon but didn't know it was a hard nope to certain things. That is good!
@robertbauerle5592
@robertbauerle5592 Жыл бұрын
Dockside's the problem in that game, not feather btw.
@vincentaponte5726
@vincentaponte5726 Жыл бұрын
@@robertbauerle5592 the repeatable flicker effects to abuse dockside were caused by Feather's ability. The same ability also lets Jon fade many attempts at interaction. Also most of the spells he cast costs are replaced by the Storm Kiln Artist. Dockside and the amount of treasure he had became irrelevant at times because he didn't need a ton of mana to cast his whole hand. It is hard to not point the finger at Feather here. Feather remained the problem throughout.
@gianniniolu2218
@gianniniolu2218 Жыл бұрын
Probably should’ve reviewed the power level of these decks before playing…
@sxysamurai
@sxysamurai Жыл бұрын
Welcome to how John picks his decks.
@andyrhodes1554
@andyrhodes1554 Жыл бұрын
Corey with the “I’m happy for you or sorry that happened” had me rolling 🤣
@elijahcampbell3314
@elijahcampbell3314 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I should happy that Jon finally got revenge and won that game or mad about that being the least enjoyable game of commander I've ever seen someone make others play through lol
@elijahcampbell3314
@elijahcampbell3314 Жыл бұрын
But DAMN if that isn't awesome that he won off of it! Congrats!
@sxysamurai
@sxysamurai Жыл бұрын
I skipped to the end of the episode at around the 20 minute mark. I really dislike Jon and him constantly playing overpowered decks in such a casual group.
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
@@sxysamurai I’m about to do the same, but I have nothing against Jon, just against Feather.
@elijahcampbell3314
@elijahcampbell3314 Жыл бұрын
@@sxysamurai I have nothing against Jon, I think this was a smart move from someone in last place and kept there all season, it just made a not great watch lol
@kyleyoobs1218
@kyleyoobs1218 Жыл бұрын
Jon whines to much when he’s on the receiving end but clearly has no problem playing high power level decks into basically fun decks. 🙄 Wouldn’t even call this a win, was already a win when he revealed feather into those commands.
@rossthrasher3167
@rossthrasher3167 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm glad I dont know anyone who mains Feather, cause I wouldnt know them for long
@awboqm
@awboqm Жыл бұрын
How do you guys make the custom tokens? I'm trying to figure out a good way to make proxies and custom cards that feel like normal cards when they are sleeved.
@SwarleyBooz
@SwarleyBooz Жыл бұрын
playing with these guys is my dream blunt rotation scenario
@swanee2846
@swanee2846 Жыл бұрын
I just realized now that Justin isn't coming back ever. That's a sad day for sure I wish him well . Its crazy how much influence you had on this series from all the way back from with Mcdarby and West. I've enjoyed so much of the content and thanks for all of it
@BearsawPrime
@BearsawPrime Жыл бұрын
Please cut the music
@djmano13
@djmano13 Жыл бұрын
Please!
@Azhalan
@Azhalan Жыл бұрын
I really like your content and games, guys. But please, try to at least play roughly at the same power level. Jons deck made this episode hard to watch.
@brandonlopina7733
@brandonlopina7733 Жыл бұрын
The deck lists looked fun! Fan deck episodes are always wildly different power levels so the second I saw Jon on Feather I knew it was over. The only other possible contender was Kenrith just cus 5 color good cards.
@sandmanlives3
@sandmanlives3 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I need to submit a deck...
@surakarus
@surakarus Жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree that Corey regained his dignity after that extra turn episode
@ExodaCrown
@ExodaCrown Жыл бұрын
I was rooting for the alt win-con deck. I tried building something like that once, it turned into a mono blue deck. I used Lier as the commander, though I probably should change that. There was a lot of target player draw spells to be used as bribes. If one player was threatening to me I could give another player cards to deal with the threat. This was kinda fun to watch, but two of the decks didn't get to show what they could do. That is always a negative to a video when one or more cannot show what they could do.
@benr1286
@benr1286 Жыл бұрын
Feather is the worst…
@crazycasey824
@crazycasey824 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see you guys do a multi-week two headed comander. I'm sure you guys have some crazy combos with the amount of cards you have access to.
@kieranwouter2361
@kieranwouter2361 Жыл бұрын
Well, that was a disappointing end to the season. Feather is a deck on a much different level to the others. He might as well have selected a CEDH deck it was so much stronger than the others. I loved the season as a whole though, so keep it up. Leave the pubstomping though.
@brandoooon4688
@brandoooon4688 Жыл бұрын
Wondering, if John attacked for lethal commander and and was Angels Graced, would the 'cmdr damage death' happen at the beginning of Stephens next turn? The 21 damage still exists right?
@joefjunior
@joefjunior Жыл бұрын
Do love some feather action, but there was a power mismatch this week; probably due to dockside, which should be reserved for cEDH play.
@Dark-Pikachu1
@Dark-Pikachu1 Жыл бұрын
It’s Wednesday night and you know what that means Star city games on KZfaq
@coreysierchio4650
@coreysierchio4650 Жыл бұрын
Even the boys were checked out at 24 mins...Lol
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 Жыл бұрын
Hope to see some beautiful low powered jank today : D
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
Whoops
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the non jon Suarez decks at least
@leonhart483
@leonhart483 Жыл бұрын
Wow what an exciting game of solitare
@UNCLEBEN2021
@UNCLEBEN2021 Жыл бұрын
"You wanna go get an ice cream after this big guy?"
@Humstuck
@Humstuck Жыл бұрын
Stephen shenanigans trying to survive saved this episode to a point because watching a deck go off while everybody else is trying fun new stuff but not actually competing is not great. Keep up the good work in general.
@mrbatman9982
@mrbatman9982 Жыл бұрын
Do you have n overview on who won how many seasons? would be interesting to see the development :)
@Blaze482Gaming
@Blaze482Gaming Жыл бұрын
I'm curious, when a season ends how does one submit a deck to potentially feature on the finale?
@rolliesmith3280
@rolliesmith3280 Жыл бұрын
The last replacement effect that comes into play is the correct effects
@jamespatterson5644
@jamespatterson5644 Жыл бұрын
Feather specifically denotes 'instead of putting it into the graveyard' ephemerate does not go to the graveyard, it goes to exile. When the rebound cast resolves, Feather's trigger would work
@fatalbert357
@fatalbert357 Жыл бұрын
Go Gates! Baldur's Gate is such a good land in dedicated gates decks
@briankaplan4729
@briankaplan4729 Жыл бұрын
we need a go fund me for corey's haircut
@tuckercochran9849
@tuckercochran9849 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people saying they played the Feather/Ephemerate interaction wrong. That is not true, it was played correctly. Per gatherer: If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather's replacement effect first. If you do, Feather's delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand. As they mentioned, when you have competing replacement effects, you get to choose which to resolve.
@ewanhiddleston6642
@ewanhiddleston6642 Жыл бұрын
So Jon had a huff and then played a disproportionately powerful deck to play the most tedious game in several seasons? Can we vote to remove points from people?
@mjjdj88
@mjjdj88 Жыл бұрын
The Justin Parnell zombie token 😢
@subtleknife1
@subtleknife1 10 ай бұрын
If I’ve learned one thing from this show it’s don’t give Suarez a sunforger.
@ChrispyChad
@ChrispyChad Жыл бұрын
I kind of miss the individual mics. Audio quality was much better than a single area mic
@marceljones7940
@marceljones7940 Жыл бұрын
totally agree
@tomcadden8054
@tomcadden8054 Жыл бұрын
Ha, a battlecruiser jank extreme gates deck and 2 other janky nonsense against the 9/10 power level Feather deck. I mean is anyone surprised?
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for submitting Feather, seems like it was an unpopular choice :P I can confirm that Jon did draw quite well, though the deck is built to try and do that. I can also say that, presumably due to not knowing the deck since it isn't his, he could have played that game MUCH meaner by flickering Recruiter and using Sunforger more. Also, Jon, you said you made some cuts, but they weren't included in the decklist link. Was it just trimming the fat a bit, cutting a protection spell or two, or some more obnoxious yet not specifically synergistic things like Smothering Tithe?
@Devin-oh7gr
@Devin-oh7gr Жыл бұрын
The deck imbalance was more unpopular, and yeah he could have played meaner and should have just put everyone out of their misery sooner
@toddherink4234
@toddherink4234 Жыл бұрын
John drew incredibly well and the abuse all came from dockside extortionist.
@ADTR4ever
@ADTR4ever Жыл бұрын
Might I suggest a "house" ban list? Dockside Extortionist being the 1st card on it lol.
@sxysamurai
@sxysamurai Жыл бұрын
Jon really makes some of the episodes difficult to watch, especially when he purposefully chooses to play decks that are way beyond the power level of the table. I was really looking forward to this episode because the points were so close but I had to turn if off at the 20 minute mark because it was clear that Jon's deck was far more powerful than the rest of the table. Really disappointed right now.
@kavfulmer
@kavfulmer Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Trash episode / typical try-hard Jon.
@UNCLEBEN2021
@UNCLEBEN2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched it in 3 parts not even because I was busy it was just too hard to watch my boys get massacred
@nik700
@nik700 Жыл бұрын
Not that it matters, but I think the director missed Jon shocking in his Sacred Foundry. Great end of season!
@Rhan_tu
@Rhan_tu Жыл бұрын
I liked this video, simply for the hidden hand joke.
@jelloispain
@jelloispain Жыл бұрын
As someone who had a feather deck and took it apart because of games like this, this game was no fun.
@kieranwouter2361
@kieranwouter2361 Жыл бұрын
I did exactly the same. It's incredibly hard for any but the highest power decks to interact with. Unless you counter Feather every time, but then only blue decks can do it. Arguably every player could save their instant removal spell for feather so they could all try to remove it, but this is commander not archenemy.
@krackergrit
@krackergrit Жыл бұрын
i hate solitare decks like that
@Jchmcom
@Jchmcom Жыл бұрын
Last week: "Let's shoot Suarez for 14." This week: "Buenos diaz, f*** bois."
@froggystrap1232
@froggystrap1232 Жыл бұрын
oh no dockside is busted…..
@Dark-Pikachu1
@Dark-Pikachu1 Жыл бұрын
Steve just needed bane of progress
@BloodMoonGo
@BloodMoonGo Жыл бұрын
he tried to use spot removal with damn, feather decks just have so much instant speed protection
@Dark-Pikachu1
@Dark-Pikachu1 Жыл бұрын
@@BloodMoonGo yeah but could he save treasure it would really hurt him
@KylePriceOnline
@KylePriceOnline Жыл бұрын
Ephemerate and Feather: If an instant or sorcery spell's own instructions tell you to exile it or put it anywhere else, it won't try to be put into your graveyard or exiled with Feather's effect, so you won't return it to your hand. 2021-03-19, Gatherer Rulings
@joeymunn7
@joeymunn7 Жыл бұрын
Whoever made that feather deck is way to much of a try hard. I can't imagine him having a play group that wants him around lol. Also why isn't dockside banned yet?
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 Жыл бұрын
That's my deck, and I can confirm that it's not a favorite. That's also in large part due to the fact that, regardless of how the deck works, it's just stronger than the others, so I haven't even played it in a very long time. If I only played that deck no matter what, I'm sure I'd have a hard time finding a consistent pod.
@novatala2070
@novatala2070 Жыл бұрын
@@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 I won't even submit my aminatou deck bc it's a prison super friends deck, has never lost a game, and has gotten me kicked out of multiple play groups. Some decks just don't belong on this shows
@robertbauerle5592
@robertbauerle5592 Жыл бұрын
Everyone's talkin 'bout feather when once again, dockside was the real problem in the game. Feather's main weakness is mana and well-timed removal, and removing the weakness of mana with one very abuseable card makes timing removal extremely difficult.
@toddherink4234
@toddherink4234 Жыл бұрын
Seriously... There are any number of repeated effects that could abuse dockside. It doesn't make feather broken
@uandubh5087
@uandubh5087 Жыл бұрын
Man Feather is a miserable card, I wonder how that ever made it through play design. Glad Stephen managed to put up a bit of a fight towards the end, that was quite entertaining.
@Zenthere
@Zenthere Жыл бұрын
Think Steven misused the Baulders Gate, It costs 2 and then taps for X mana
@BjornStellar
@BjornStellar Жыл бұрын
No he was using his Sol ring to activate it everytime.
@Zenthere
@Zenthere Жыл бұрын
@@BjornStellar Ahh, that makes more sense.
@andrewfornes5320
@andrewfornes5320 Жыл бұрын
Green trying to win with 20 + power creature is just the most green way to win.
@RPGFanboy14
@RPGFanboy14 Жыл бұрын
I'll admit I was very much rooting for Steven to pull it out in the end with Glacial Chasm and the mechanized production. Game got very degenerate very fast but that's commander sometimes.
@RPGFanboy14
@RPGFanboy14 Жыл бұрын
Also another example of why Dockside is wayyy too strong a card and should probably be banned in commander.
@kerilliacm6800
@kerilliacm6800 Жыл бұрын
could stephen had of targeted a treasure token to get rid of all treasures with oblivion ring?
@sirmoth3955
@sirmoth3955 Жыл бұрын
No because he could just sacrifice the targeted treasure in response.
@McDodgerMan
@McDodgerMan Жыл бұрын
Everyone is kinda ragging on the power differential, but archenemy isn’t a bad format. I kinda think everybody already treats Suarez like such anyways. I like that everyone could keep up an entertaining banter, and I wish Suarez did less slowrolling. It’s still an hour of (thank you for editing) content when the game was decided about 20 minutes in.
@TheEsrix
@TheEsrix Жыл бұрын
Corey needs his own color now
@danteishere7792
@danteishere7792 Жыл бұрын
Corey Team Cobalt
@zitronenwasser
@zitronenwasser Жыл бұрын
@@danteishere7792 Corey Cobalt sounds great actually yeah
@jesseenns2760
@jesseenns2760 Жыл бұрын
rough one
@Doofindork
@Doofindork Жыл бұрын
Sunforger really breaks Feather wide open. It's such a stupidly potent card that if you have enough mana, you basically can't be dealt with. And with how Wizards keeps printing juicy cards that that are both cheap and potent in Feather decks, she just sees such ample amounts of stuff to play. Monstrous deck.
@Alejandrodemontana
@Alejandrodemontana Жыл бұрын
That feather deck bro…
@Skream1185
@Skream1185 Жыл бұрын
Jon is feeling himself too much
@ClaytonChristopherHarbison
@ClaytonChristopherHarbison Жыл бұрын
Yo, sometimes game end up like this. Does it suck for the other three, yeah? But they tried. Good show, and hope the comments don't get ya down.
@phikappatauox
@phikappatauox Жыл бұрын
Yawn..... The reason I watch this channel is because you all DON'T play stupidly busted decks like the one Jon played in this episode. Very unequal power levels, pretty much just pubstomping this episode. Hope that win was worth it.
@didupaytheone2678
@didupaytheone2678 Жыл бұрын
Go to game two, this one is over, this is called a loop
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Feather doesn't interact with spells that have Rebound. Rebound is different from Flashback and its cousins, because it doesn't replace the normal "go to the graveyard" part of the resolution, instead it inserts the exile "as the spell resolves", neatly before the usual "go to the graveyard" part. This means that Jon wouldn't have been able to blink the Dockside with Ephemerate indefinitely. I wonder how different the game would've been if they knew about this.
@jamespatterson5644
@jamespatterson5644 Жыл бұрын
It would have worked from the upkeep rebound cast. definitely could have changed things, but I think the eerie interlude is what broke the game
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespatterson5644 True indeed
@FelipeSantos-cu2xy
@FelipeSantos-cu2xy Жыл бұрын
Disappointed with this episode, i was so curious to see the other 3 decks with commanders that like and not see so often, but feather deck take de fun…
@xwraiths
@xwraiths Жыл бұрын
Feather being a boring pain. As usual.
@Coyote81
@Coyote81 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to start running triggered ability counters so you can punish people for playing Eerie Interlude. Loved to see Feather never come back again,.
@ChristiantrospectiveGamer
@ChristiantrospectiveGamer Жыл бұрын
The only way this video could have been redeemed is spoiled because of sunforger. Stephen pulling a Glacial Chasm to stop Jon from playing Solitaire would have been the greatest way to end the season.
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
I have never once ever played a game with Feather in it that was fun.
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull Жыл бұрын
Yeah, feather is annoying
@afrosamurai3847
@afrosamurai3847 Жыл бұрын
I just wouldn't take the games tbh no reason to waste my time vs a blatantly overtuned card. Maybe with a reprint/revise to only be your endstep but as it stands the value is just too much.
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull Жыл бұрын
@@afrosamurai3847 Very well put
@mjjdj88
@mjjdj88 Жыл бұрын
Well I guess that is one way to end a season…
@MrVeach777
@MrVeach777 Жыл бұрын
Why does John always picks the most powerful deck between all them??
@elitebuster2012
@elitebuster2012 Жыл бұрын
Corey missed a play by not targeting a Treasure token with Detention Sphere, therefore shitt9mg down Jon's Mana base/boost
@IRONWILL5555
@IRONWILL5555 Жыл бұрын
Jon could have sacrificed the token in response which would fizzle the ability.
@chrisdixon7377
@chrisdixon7377 Жыл бұрын
I sent a decklist to Jeremy on Twitter but I think it was way too late, maybe next season!
@kevinweyer2577
@kevinweyer2577 Жыл бұрын
CEDH vs fun commander shocking results.
@rocketrae21
@rocketrae21 Жыл бұрын
I know they can't just concede but this was a pretty big non game
@Goodthrust69
@Goodthrust69 Жыл бұрын
Dockside is definitely not busted...
@tubadinozzo
@tubadinozzo Жыл бұрын
lol signet tron
@In_Response
@In_Response Жыл бұрын
why didn't Steven just get a gond gate so he stops being a turn behind
@ChestnutBaron
@ChestnutBaron Жыл бұрын
All Jon had to do was NOT tutor for the dockside. Might have been a game then. Ah well.
@AnticlimacticPangolin
@AnticlimacticPangolin Жыл бұрын
I think rule zero would help out with the game play, sagas vs a wincon.deck vs feather vs legend tribal doesn’t seem like a fair matchup, I really enjoy the show tho
@zacharybecker8228
@zacharybecker8228 Жыл бұрын
feather isnt fair against alot of decks
@AnticlimacticPangolin
@AnticlimacticPangolin Жыл бұрын
@@zacharybecker8228 that’s why I think rule zero would have helped
@zacharybecker8228
@zacharybecker8228 Жыл бұрын
@@AnticlimacticPangolin also didnt help he misplayed the ephemerate wrong which would have set him behind a turn or two
@AnticlimacticPangolin
@AnticlimacticPangolin Жыл бұрын
@@zacharybecker8228 totally agree, I know it slows the game but they really need rule checking (that isn’t Jon)
@Zaakar
@Zaakar Жыл бұрын
On the topic of Jon's deck being overpowered: it would have felt a lot less so if anyone had been playing counterspells and gotten rid of the flicker spells. This doesn't invalidate what's being said (he had many protection spells after all), but the value train with Dockside might have stopped.
@andrewb378
@andrewb378 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's tough to fault the other guys for not having counterspells when they've seen like 12 cards and Jon's dropped 2 tutors and has a hand full of protection spells. It definitely would have been nice to see at least one or two counterspells, but I think the feather deck was just genuinely much faster than the other decks at the table. Like, Jeremy started to do stuff just before he got smacked with lethal. Stephen started to get a bunch of junk wincons on the field, but it was just too late. Corey didn't even really get a chance to play his deck before he was dead. I think Feather is a really fast deck to begin with and Jon just got a really good start on top of that. Rough game.
@Zaakar
@Zaakar Жыл бұрын
@@andrewb378 I didn't mean to fault the others, mostly to say that counterspells are a weaker point for that Feather deck than the ones the others tried. But still, I guess I agree with what you're saying here.
@rayhickeyiii5418
@rayhickeyiii5418 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE SEE MY COMMENT BELOW FOR MY CORRECTION. As far as I can tell the ephemerate Feather issue was played wrong. Feather's ability only triggers when the spell would go to the graveyard, rebound keeps the card from ever going to the graveyard.
@futurewerewolf2198
@futurewerewolf2198 Жыл бұрын
It was played correctly. Both rebound and Feather try to replace the zone to which the spell moves upon resolution, and, when multiple replacement effects try to apply to one object, the object's controller decides the order in which they apply. Therefore, you can choose whether your scenario plays out as you describe or if the first cast just sends the card back to hand.
@rayhickeyiii5418
@rayhickeyiii5418 Жыл бұрын
@@futurewerewolf2198 This is my fault in reading the rulings on Feather. It states that is a card would exile itself then it would never go to the graveyard and Feather could not get it back. Then when I read the reminder text on Rebound it said it was a straight exile not a replacement. After further digging the comprehensive rules state that it is a replacement effect. Therefore it was played correctly.
@weirdperson5675
@weirdperson5675 Жыл бұрын
For everyone complaining about this one S17E4 Justin decimates the table with a nutty draw just as bad as Jon's here
@Deamonic
@Deamonic Жыл бұрын
FYI, it's pronounced Kazem
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