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SECRET INVASION Episode 4: The Rhodey Reveal is Everything Wrong with the Show

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Secret Invasion Episode 4 gave us what should have been THE biggest twist in the history of the MCU--and instead it was a casual, offhand reveal that was not a shock to anyone. In this video, we break down how this is indicative of the problems permeating Disney and Marvel--and the way they can recover to rebuild the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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This is a show that I am rooting for-a show that should be shaking the foundations of the MCU-and yet, they just gave us one of the biggest reveals ever in the MCU-and no one cares. Is it because of low ratings, or is there something else behind this?
I’m going to talk about why I think that is, what the show has done right and wrong, and a little later I’m going to be joined by nando v movies and Paul from heavy spoilers, but first, here’s my take.
What’s really surprised me about this show is the apathy. I did a poll on our community page, and this is how you all voted: 55% of ScreenCrush viewers like the show, 14% don't like it, and a whopping one-third are not watching the show yet. I mean, guys-you’re part of ScreenCrush nation here. We're used to watching the MCU shows in the morning, before work. So what's going on here?
I’m wondering if we’re seeing something with this show, where it almost feels obligatory. Like Marvel is ticking boxes of things that need to happen in order to set up the future-Fury in the Marvels-president Ross in Captain america: Brave new world. Now there’s nothing wrong with that-captain america civil war was basically all set up for infinity war-but it was done with elegy writing and clockwork precision. That movie had scale, substance, and was a fanboy dream come true.
Secret INvasion’s comic books tryline would have also been a fanboy dream come true. Massive scale, hundreds of heroes. The show doesn't have the artistry, scale or budget this story deserves. This is not the same level of show we saw in 2021, for example.
But I want to be fair and point out what the show is doing right. For one, they have done an exceptional job with the skrulls. The skrulls look great, they have believable motivations, and they're sympathetic. I think the skrulls in the MCU are way more nuanced than they are in the comics.
The show also has these world class actors putting on great performances. Samuel L Jackson is bringing the weight [clip], But he’s also having fun [torture scene]. And speaking of torture scenes, Olivia Colman is a treasure [clip]. All of the character baked drama with Fury works really well. Like his strained relationship with his wife [her talking about when he blipped], INe flaw with this though, is that there is a lot of telling in this show, instead of showing. We don't see fury post blip, we don't see him lose faith in heroes.
And by the way-the entire show has been undermined because we saw fury in the Marvels trailer [clip]/ so we know things are gonna work out just fine.
Doug: Unless that’s an LMD. Unless it’s an LMD, right.
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So the real problem with secret invasion is that it feels small, it’s not-cinematic. Even though the world is threatened with extinction, it doesn't feel like it. I watch the show, and I don't feel threatened.
And the best example of this is the lazy, uneventful Rhodey is a skrull reveal.
So we have talked about it extensively on the channel. We did a video breaking down how long Rhodey could have been a skrull, and what this means for the mCU. This had the potential to be an earth shattering reveal that would have questioned everything we know about the MCU.
But instead, we get the reveal over the phone [clip]. Now the captions say, “Man on phone,” but that’s not cheadle.. He's one of the most famous people on the planet. Wouldn't a skrull have changed into someone else to disguise their voice?
And this reveal was way too easy to see coming. He treats fury like dirt, he fires him [clip]. And does not act like the man of honor we’ve come to know over the past 15 years.
Doug: Well then, how should they have done the reveal?

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@RickHawkDavison
@RickHawkDavison Жыл бұрын
You need "Star Wars Theory", Josh.
@ianomondi3152
@ianomondi3152 Жыл бұрын
I loved it
@RickHawkDavison
@RickHawkDavison Жыл бұрын
I really thought Juliet Stevenson was trans. Guess not.
@stevens4492
@stevens4492 Жыл бұрын
Would have been cool if the skrull playing Nick's wife turned out to be the skrull that had been impersonating Rhodey all along. That would explain how Nick and Rhodes never had contact until then.
@SuckaFreeWillie
@SuckaFreeWillie Жыл бұрын
It’s all just so lackluster.
@oxyzzmoron
@oxyzzmoron Жыл бұрын
I felt the show expected us to know that Rhodey was a skrull because of his change of personality being disrespectful to Nick Fury on the second episode. I think the female skrull as rhodey was the most unexpected part.
@eddieterrell5457
@eddieterrell5457 Жыл бұрын
All this crying they really get to whine now that the actors on strike also!
@EV21
@EV21 Жыл бұрын
I mean...that's exactly what I picked up on. So I think the show succeeded in that respect
@ewarrior9776
@ewarrior9776 Жыл бұрын
No Black person, not even a Black republican would be that disrespectful to an elder.
@douglasfuentes2737
@douglasfuentes2737 Жыл бұрын
A black republican would be the least disrespectful
@DaronNooner84
@DaronNooner84 Жыл бұрын
One thing I haven’t seen ANYONE pickup up on that should’ve clued everyone into the fact that Rhodey was a Skrull is the fact that in Avenger’s Endgame, Rhodey had to use leg braces that Tony Stark made for him after he was paralyzed in Captain America: Civil War. If I’m not mistaken I believe Rhodey was permanently paralyzed, so if it was really him walking around he would have to use those braces just to walk. But when we saw him in Falcon and the Winter Soldier and now in Secret Invasion, he’s no longer wearing the leg braces that he’d have to wear since he’s paralyzed. That’s what let me know Rhodey is a Skrull and has been one since at least Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
@liferealgood
@liferealgood Жыл бұрын
If they wake Rhodey up and he asks "Where's Tony?" that's gonna break alot of people.
@enishi4ty5
@enishi4ty5 Жыл бұрын
true but it likely didn’t happen until after endgame so the real rhodey was probably there when tony died.. now who he was in falcon/ws can be up for debate
@liferealgood
@liferealgood Жыл бұрын
@@enishi4ty5 I think you are right. However, I wouldn’t mind the switch before Endgame. I think it would alot of people emotionally. I believe Don Cheadle could pull it off.
@sarbnitrof4663
@sarbnitrof4663 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how that's possible.
@buckman234
@buckman234 Жыл бұрын
I really do wonder why the skrull reveals aren't hitting as hard as they should be. Maybe its because they dont really change what happened in the past? Maybe we need a flashback of them doing something that completely changes our perspective on the past?
@pinaka5461
@pinaka5461 Жыл бұрын
Because all(just 2) reveals are most obvious one, expect big surprise reveals only in finale.
@gechoman44iwantahippo
@gechoman44iwantahippo Жыл бұрын
It’s because there isn’t anybody they can reveal to be a skrull that wouldn’t either ruin some of the past stories to an extent or not affect things enough. I don’t think they should’ve done Secret Invasion, at least not yet.
@darkrl591
@darkrl591 Жыл бұрын
because it was revealed for a whole week now, it already settled in
@NotReallyAya.
@NotReallyAya. Жыл бұрын
I think because they reveal them after we already kind of figure it out.
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Жыл бұрын
You're right. There are zero stakes. The comic book story arc was high stakes and made real changes.
@arthuratkins5902
@arthuratkins5902 Жыл бұрын
17:08 the reveal didn’t happen in this episode. It happened in episode 2. That’s why Fury’s reaction was there. It wasn’t about getting fired. It was about Rhodey being a Skrull and calling him Nick.
@Killaa_p
@Killaa_p Жыл бұрын
No one cares
@jasonantares3116
@jasonantares3116 Жыл бұрын
Huh interesting
@BringBackOGClubPenguin
@BringBackOGClubPenguin Жыл бұрын
@@Killaa_pI do 😎
@clairemadeinheaven
@clairemadeinheaven Жыл бұрын
@@Killaa_p you cared enough to comment pablo
@slim..reaper
@slim..reaper Жыл бұрын
The scene with Rhodey and Fury knowing they both know was brilliant. And it’s perfect Rhodey is acting over the top and showing a lot of hate to Fury. It’s supposed to be obvious that Rhodey is a skrull. So when Fury realizes it, it’s supposed to be almost annoyingly over the top. The skrull doesn’t truly know how to act like Rhodey, cause it’s not him. It’s great imo
@Xlaeflicks
@Xlaeflicks Жыл бұрын
I agree with u, that scene was actually nice. Tbh I wasn’t paying much attention to ppl’s opinions for the first 5 episodes, I watched them and I thought it was good. It’s the finale that ruined it for me. Visually, that last fight was the most atrocious thing I’ve seen since… well Ant Man Quantumania 😬 Fury’s arc doesn’t close off properly, same for Garlic or whatever his name was, Khaleesi is the most powerful hero in the MCU now… for absolutely no reason at all. I really don’t get how this show went from so good to so bad in like 5 minutes.
@eminstinct4114
@eminstinct4114 Жыл бұрын
@@Xlaeflicksno she’s not
@Senpai_SM0K3
@Senpai_SM0K3 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is that I don’t understand the criticism. Im still curious on when Rhodes become a skrull. I feel like there’s still more to come from the Skrulls and secret invasion even after this show
@BirdNerdFilms
@BirdNerdFilms Жыл бұрын
Same! I love this show
@andrewheath6451
@andrewheath6451 Жыл бұрын
The scene with priscilla was intense! I love this show!
@FromDowntowne
@FromDowntowne Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to the joy of just seeing the reveal
@thacyphakc
@thacyphakc Жыл бұрын
I feel you I think they're wrapping this up for something even more extreme
@thacyphakc
@thacyphakc Жыл бұрын
Skrull Rhodey vs War Machine 😮
@rlsmith6625
@rlsmith6625 Жыл бұрын
Were we meant to believe Rhodey was not a skrull from the first episode? The better question is what did the skrulls do with Rhodey?
@Fuar11
@Fuar11 Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping they put him in a pod and didn't just kill him or something
@Maisonikkokufan
@Maisonikkokufan Жыл бұрын
​@Fuar11 the skrulls aren't able to use someone's body without them being alive, which is why they have all those people asleep in pods
@lolhowmad
@lolhowmad Жыл бұрын
@@Maisonikkokufan Wrong. They can use someones face whether the person is alive or dead. The pods are for their memories. They don't need to be in control of the body to replicate it.
@TheDestroyerX
@TheDestroyerX Жыл бұрын
Armor wars will come so no Rhodes is still alive
@redswastedtalents4671
@redswastedtalents4671 Жыл бұрын
​@@MaisonikkokufanFurys's wife changed into someone who died
@NewandOldFunkoPopUnboxings
@NewandOldFunkoPopUnboxings Жыл бұрын
This show is incredible but holy crap are the scenes FIRE when Jackson/Cheadle share the screen!
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Жыл бұрын
You're right about that part. The two of them on screen together just blow up.
@EvanDorn
@EvanDorn Жыл бұрын
The reveal was sufficient low key that I just assumed the real Rhodey is not dead, and will turn out to be one of captured humans at Gravik's compound. I actually thought this was the most impactful episode so far because of the intensely powerful scene between Nick and Priscilla. Jackson and Woodard's performances in that scene was some of the most powerful emotional content I've seen on television.
@Don.M.
@Don.M. Жыл бұрын
People seem to be ignoring the fact that the real Rhodey must be neutralized and imprisoned by Skrulls somewhere. They would also have his memories and knowledge of State/Avenger secrets. How can an Avenger be compromised like this and Fury hasn’t called EVERYONE to get on this ASAP??
@fduranthesee
@fduranthesee Жыл бұрын
I forgot Rhodey/Warmachine was an Avenger. Shame we don't see him too often...
@blackwind92
@blackwind92 Жыл бұрын
Huh. Actually makes it worse since, with his memories, the Skrulls should have access to at least 1 (if not all) Iron Man suit. Suppose that could still happen to help set up Armor Wars, but then, that's just more points towards Fury being incompetent.
@mighty760giant7
@mighty760giant7 Жыл бұрын
What I think is that Fury thinks that the rest of the avengers could be compromised so that's why he doesn't want to risk calling the avengers
@blackwind92
@blackwind92 Жыл бұрын
@mighty760giant7 A problem he should've long since prepared for in 30 years by having at least 1 method to identify a skrull without injuring/killing them. Masterclass of a performance by SLJ, but this show is kind of adding question marks to Fury's overall competence.
@RealTalkJB
@RealTalkJB Жыл бұрын
@@blackwind92I think you’re missing a huge point. On the train with Talos, it’s revealed that over 1,000,000 Skrulls are now on earth. It’s clear Fury 1) Never anticipated or even thought Talos would be so reckless to have all come to earth and 2) Those would take he and Carol not finding a home for them turn to a rebellion.
@jonathansarni4424
@jonathansarni4424 Жыл бұрын
Secret Invasion feels very much like it should be a binge show, not week to week.
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын
It's been four episodes, and I'm still waiting for any of the blame directed at Fury to be directed at Danvers as well. She had around 2 decades to find a planet before the Snap finally got her off her ass and she accomplished nothing for the very people who set her free from her capturers, but whatever.
@bastian5065
@bastian5065 Жыл бұрын
What bum ass skrull finna step to Ms.Marvel😂
@patchesohoulihan9604
@patchesohoulihan9604 Жыл бұрын
ditto, and if not I am wondering if this will be brought up in the Marvels movie.
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
They’d better just put those Skrulls on Thanos’s garden planet. Right? Get them off Earth onto their own thing. Then deal with the Kree wiping them out. Explain at that point that it’s not f’ing simple to just ‘find’ a planet. EDIT: by the way, is it the humans or the Skrulls that have interplanetary ships? Why are they even blaming humans? For letting them stay even though they could fly off any time?
@ferinscott4157
@ferinscott4157 Жыл бұрын
Not saying your wrong I agree but also cut her some slack she been more busy then fury especially in the snap
@Ironhart
@Ironhart Жыл бұрын
Yalll missing the point! There was only a few skrull. After the blip them all came to earth. Honestly everyone lost sight of the first mission and was to busy doing everything else! It all rumble once thanos snap
@davidwright4201
@davidwright4201 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this series just feels like a fresh breath of air compared to the others, I'd much rather focus on the positives that this show has offered us.
@victory7763
@victory7763 Жыл бұрын
I like that they don't shove humor into everything
@mxkaqz
@mxkaqz Жыл бұрын
@@victory7763 exactly since i think that they were ruining marvel with too much humor.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
I definitely appreciate the show for what it is but I hate that every episode is shorter than the one before. I also think it'll be a huge mistake to kill Gravik especially if Talos is really dead which he seems to be because Gravik is one of the best villains that we've seen.
@rollindeep786
@rollindeep786 Жыл бұрын
As long as there isn't another pathetic attempt like she hulk, I'm all good, let the story continue.. Its refreshing
@lindamuvic8110
@lindamuvic8110 Жыл бұрын
Blew chunks.
@BlimpCityFeeder
@BlimpCityFeeder Жыл бұрын
Slow burn but the best episode in the series. Shame there are only 2 more episodes until the end. Seeing Fury's eyes looking back at Gravik was timeless. If Fury opts for Super Soldier Serum like the comics, it could be 1 heck of a finale vs Skrull Rhodey & Gravik.
@randomguysays
@randomguysays Жыл бұрын
Nando V Movies, Heavy Spoilers and ScreenCrush working together? This is the best KZfaq team up! Everybody pay attention this is how a real team up is supposed to work..
@charlesdigloria693
@charlesdigloria693 Жыл бұрын
The KZfaq Avengers
@wRICKyRIZZ
@wRICKyRIZZ Жыл бұрын
Taelos dying hit me hard on an emotional level, i was like "noooooo, not Taylos" lol idk maybe im the only one
@slack__
@slack__ Жыл бұрын
there's more trailer footage of him that hasnt been shown yet so idk if he's dead dead edit, turns out I was wrong. F for talos
@Mae-ny3jt
@Mae-ny3jt Жыл бұрын
​@@slack__ what trailer footage specifically?
@AC-kx4zr
@AC-kx4zr Жыл бұрын
Saw it coming after the episode 1 ending. So, wasn't that big of a shock to me.
@TheMrfluffi
@TheMrfluffi Жыл бұрын
@@slack__ Wouldn't be the first time a show or movie has included unused footage in their trailer though to throw people off...
@krcmaine
@krcmaine Жыл бұрын
I didn't think it would happen this soon.
@spongeguybridankia8735
@spongeguybridankia8735 Жыл бұрын
Get where you're coming from, but I personally think it works. It doesn't always have to be a big event, the smaller scale makes it claustrophobic, we still don't know how it ends, and who's to say we won't get epic reveals. It's more like a spy play than an epic. Respect your opinion, just saying that for me personally it works better than big reveals that could kill great arcs.
@lobodesade6780
@lobodesade6780 Жыл бұрын
I am with you one hundred percent. Although I can't enjoy the show fully due to taking care of my many jumping spiders hahaha, so I only watch these vids to catch up on what I missed. But I agree with you 100%, it's a claustrophobic spy thriller, you worded it well.
@spongeguybridankia8735
@spongeguybridankia8735 Жыл бұрын
@@lobodesade6780 thank you! Also that's gotta be one of the coolest reasons ever, jumping spiders! How come you own them? Pets? Science?
@lobodesade6780
@lobodesade6780 Жыл бұрын
@@spongeguybridankia8735 hahaha thanks man, and they're my pets, I have to hand feed two because one is old, and the other is missing one of her front legs, so I put allot of time into making sure they're ok, and then I give them all play time too which is always fun to watch.
@spongeguybridankia8735
@spongeguybridankia8735 Жыл бұрын
@@lobodesade6780 fascinating! Thanks for sharing!
@chrisleneil
@chrisleneil Жыл бұрын
This is completely how I feel., as if it almost seems like a ‘bottle episode’ due to the claustrophobia.
@campbellbeattie8983
@campbellbeattie8983 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, Paul, and Nando is the crossover I’ve been waiting for
@annafield3136
@annafield3136 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying it more than the show itself
@geoffrygo
@geoffrygo Жыл бұрын
They haven't "showed" us, they just keep "telling us." THANK YOU. This is why I haven't watched past episode one. It felt like a children's program for adults.
@thestank3
@thestank3 Жыл бұрын
I think the reveal was fine. the reason it looks like nobody cares is because everyone knew He was a skrull.
@pinaka5461
@pinaka5461 Жыл бұрын
That's why they revealed him so casually and early.the show still have sleeping cell pod episode left,where they can easily reveal multiple characters at the same time without having them in the show.
@Dave-rd6sp
@Dave-rd6sp Жыл бұрын
The moment Cheadle was cast in the show, people knew he was a Skrull. So instead of having a big (obvious) reveal, they're doing a slow burn. If they do a big reveal it'll likely be when he was replaced, not that he was replaced.
@slack__
@slack__ Жыл бұрын
yeah and the thing is also, Fury doesn't know for sure that rhodey's a skrull yet... just the audience. when Fury finds out, it could have a totally different feeling
@kvm6
@kvm6 Жыл бұрын
​@@slack__yeah he does. He overheard the conversation Rhodey and Varra had, and then went to Rhodey to put a tracker in him.
@andrewleese89
@andrewleese89 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@AshU-ug2fy
@AshU-ug2fy Жыл бұрын
​@@slack__he 100% knows, he isn't as useless as everyone thinks he is, he's still on top of what's happening, he just doesn't know all the details. He bugged his wife's phone and made it a point that no one close to him calls him Nick. I think he's know for quite some time, that's why they didn't play it up to the audience.
@MontgomeryWenis
@MontgomeryWenis Жыл бұрын
Considering every episode starts with a flashback showing Fury's rise and fall through time, I wouldn't be surprised if we get at least one right after he came back, like what we got when Yelena.
@katearcher8514
@katearcher8514 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, they are yet consecutive, so the Blip is still ahead of us.
@earlr2992
@earlr2992 Жыл бұрын
I love the show. But Rhodey became paralyzed after he fell from the sky and was using a mechanical frame to walk. How is he now back to normal and when exactly did the Skrull take over Rhodey's life and is Rhodey still alive? All that stuff has to be answered.
@MontgomeryWenis
@MontgomeryWenis Жыл бұрын
@@earlr2992 It's been 8 years since Civil War and his best friend was a genius billionaire philanthropist who tinkered to pass the time. I'm sure Tony had a whole start-to-finish rehab plan setup. They showed him working with Rhodey in his braces in Endgame and it's been another 2-3 years since. He's fine.
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@earlr2992
@earlr2992 Жыл бұрын
@@MontgomeryWenis Tony was not around to do any Tinkering because he died in End Game and Rhodey was still wearing the brace during that movie . Tony was gone on another planet for years as well while Rhodey was wearing the brace. He had to no time to tinker with anything while floating around in space. Rhodey was wearing the brace all through End Game up to the point when Tony died. So your theory about Tony working with him and doing any tinkering does not work.
@tanthokg
@tanthokg Жыл бұрын
My favorite scene in ep 4 is the conversation between Fury and Priscilla (Varra) in the house. It's so touching
@sportsnet1997
@sportsnet1997 Жыл бұрын
Ive noticed a lot of KZfaq shows can't understand why people at home aren't watching these shows right away.... The show debuts at 3am on the east coast on Wednesday. I don't get to see it until the weekend b/c I'm busy with work. A lot of these KZfaq reactor channels can watch it right away b/c you have to so that you can get your KZfaq easter egg /reaction show out asap. Wandavision debuted of Fridays and we were all trapped inside our house due to the pandemic....so more people watched it right away back then as opposed to now (b/c it was the 1st MCU content we had in 18 months.)
@LamarJPringle
@LamarJPringle Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Rhodey being a Skrull was supposed to be too shocking…the writing has been so good that the point is not IF he was a skrull, it’s when did he become one.
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Жыл бұрын
Does when matter? Thy already told Gravik began the movement after Fury went to SABER, so it's not tht much time, and we know nothing about Rhodey in that time period except that he talked to Sam in Falcon and WS
@trey5747
@trey5747 Жыл бұрын
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uuI feel like it was right after falcon and winter soldier
@LamarJPringle
@LamarJPringle Жыл бұрын
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu I think “when” matters for future storylines. Like Armor Wars: IF tSecret Invasion doesn’t conclude with “When was Rhodey a Skrull” then it would be fascinating (IMO) to learn more about who is the James Rhodes we know vs the Skrull Rhodes. Ultimately it probably doesn’t matter to the MCU, for me as a fan it’s been so interesting to see Sam L Jackson act his but off and Don Cheadle get more screen time.
@ZenShroud1
@ZenShroud1 Жыл бұрын
The writing has been so good? Are we watching the same show?
@BaithNa
@BaithNa Жыл бұрын
Seems like its written like a play. Everything is stated instead of showing us.
@redswastedtalents4671
@redswastedtalents4671 Жыл бұрын
I rewatched Falcon and Winter Soilder. Rhodey in that is acting like the Rhodey we know and love so I think it's only recently he's been changed
@KyleBruce99
@KyleBruce99 Жыл бұрын
I know Marvel has its issues. But we live in a time where 50% of the population are critics. And the other 50% listen to one opinion and become an echochamber of that opinion without ever actually watching the show. The MCU would have never got off the ground if that internet landscspe existed back then. Secret Invasion is such an incredible. World building but self existing. Awesome acting, good pacing, a good story with good twists. I wish people would enjoy these projects for what it is, and not what they want it to be.
@nogrecords
@nogrecords Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! You are exactly right. This show is fantastic and these channels are just shitting on them, to mine the audience for content
@Bigiboi_07
@Bigiboi_07 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my dude your fuvking right this show is fire 🔥
@TrippieFox
@TrippieFox Жыл бұрын
The internet did exist dumbass when marvel was coming out with the first few movies
@gregburnsjr9431
@gregburnsjr9431 Жыл бұрын
This !
@TheSstretch68
@TheSstretch68 Жыл бұрын
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!
@djmisterhon
@djmisterhon Жыл бұрын
I think the shower scene would have been more impactful if she changed into other MCU characters before Rhodey. Just to have the audience guessing were the others Skrulls as well at some point.
@Zealient
@Zealient Жыл бұрын
Secret invasion is an amazing show and many people are missing out for sure.. This is an underrated show
@mattnelson7775
@mattnelson7775 Жыл бұрын
It's the weekly episode drop. I waited till they were all done to watch.
@TheUltraKekster
@TheUltraKekster Жыл бұрын
keep.coping
@charlesdigloria693
@charlesdigloria693 Жыл бұрын
I love ScreenCrush and Heavy Spoilers. Easily my two favorite comic book channels. More colabs please.
@mattm8098
@mattm8098 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Emergency awesome is good too. New rockstars is dead
@gmcmurr15
@gmcmurr15 Жыл бұрын
Definitely two of the best channels around imo.
@josuafraser4865
@josuafraser4865 Жыл бұрын
@@mattm8098new rockstars is cooking up right now lol wytb
@annafield3136
@annafield3136 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Enjoy them occasionally roasting each other too
@BruceKenobi
@BruceKenobi Жыл бұрын
Agreed, New Rockstars is just non-stop sponsor commercials. Emergency Awesome sometimes points out incorrect things, he is not up to SC and HS level. I like Nando V movies for his essays
@422mb
@422mb Жыл бұрын
The fact that so many people are not watching this show is baffling to me. This show has (in my opinion) the best acting in all of the MCU. But I’m not counting Angela Bassett, she’s in a totally different league. And we all know there’s so way that Rodie was a scroll for too long. Tony or Jarvis or Friday would have found it out pretty quick. I think the really epic reveal is how he got replaced.
@KareemMontes
@KareemMontes Жыл бұрын
It's boring and repetitive.
@HolyFieldM5
@HolyFieldM5 Жыл бұрын
Exactly they just hate to get clicks
@GODLYOPINIONS
@GODLYOPINIONS Жыл бұрын
@@KareemMontes It’s literally building up💀💀💀💀 That’s why the third and fourth episodes- middle episodes are the shortest cause it’s playing out as if it’s a movie.
@sentra2skyline141
@sentra2skyline141 Жыл бұрын
@@KareemMonteshow
@KareemMontes
@KareemMontes Жыл бұрын
@@GODLYOPINIONS that means they are stretching too little story/plot across too many episodes.
@IamSickCase
@IamSickCase Жыл бұрын
The show is loaded with star power but for some weird reason this show doesn’t feel important? This should have been a movie
@PhangaMedia
@PhangaMedia Жыл бұрын
It just occurred to me that we heard Roddy on the phone because Fury had bugged his wife's phone. So he was hearing it the same time we were.
@wood-lee1832
@wood-lee1832 Жыл бұрын
And he still barely reacted
@Starius65
@Starius65 Жыл бұрын
The big issue, especially after people didn't watch MoM because they didn't see WandaVision, is that they don't want any 'big reveals' for the MCU in a Disney+ show. If they had to explain in a movie that Rhodes had been a skrull this entire time, people would be confused and say it was a "rushed reveal" because they didnt see the TV show. They're not going to risk big reveals in Disney+ anymore, just minor supplements. If they wanted to do secret invasion right, it should have been an avengers movie.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
"[people] don't want any 'big reveals' for the MCU in a Disney+ show." That wasn't what people wanted, or what Kevin Feige himself was selling, when these Disney+ shows were first announced. Feige made it clear that the Disney+ shows were going to be on the same level as the movies.
@joken987
@joken987 Жыл бұрын
I know I shouldn’t let others influence my thoughts, but I feel like the show is objectively good(wish the 4th episode was longer) but it’s serious, the acting is peak, and I like how it takes itself seriously.
@Yay4Yay
@Yay4Yay Жыл бұрын
I like the show too
@enigma7385
@enigma7385 Жыл бұрын
I read don't understand what's happening. Screencrush used to be positive. The show is great. It's not about what it should do it's about what it is doing. The problem is the expectation that people had not the actual show.
@Bigiboi_07
@Bigiboi_07 Жыл бұрын
I really like the show to it's 🔥
@cloverherreign2825
@cloverherreign2825 Жыл бұрын
Marvel been on goofy humor so long u can't take it seriously anymore, not even fury after captain marvel
@jonathanring3614
@jonathanring3614 Жыл бұрын
Everyone should keep in mind that we haven’t seen the whole show. I will not judge this show until I have seen it completely.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
Gonna still go with that line after she hulk?
@jonathanring3614
@jonathanring3614 Жыл бұрын
@@jaideepshekhar4621 Yes.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanring3614 You also enjoyed that shit I assume?
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo Жыл бұрын
I personally don't mind the slower start to Secret Invasion, I think that just means that the finale is going to be big. Remember, this series directly impacts both Captain America Brave New World and The Marvels.
@BaithNa
@BaithNa Жыл бұрын
Does it?
@WheezyHendrxx
@WheezyHendrxx Жыл бұрын
Well it better, you only got 2 episodes left
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
5:53 it was so obvious that Rhody was a skrull that I was actually hoping that was a red herring, that Rhody had just lost patience with Fury, but then he’d come around and help fend off the Skrulls in the end.
@LordSixfreed
@LordSixfreed Жыл бұрын
The cat on Ryan's desk is a way bigger reveal than the Rhodey thing, and it's giving me a lot of intriguing questions. How did it get there? What did Doug think of it? Where did Doug go after the ad? Is Doug a skrull impersonating a cat at the moment? My mind is blowing up from all these questions.
@TheJaker5
@TheJaker5 Жыл бұрын
If these next 2 episodes are bangers, then I’d say the show should’ve just been released over 3 weeks. 2 episodes each Wednesday. The story would have benefited from that greatly
@SKPanda1915
@SKPanda1915 Жыл бұрын
If Echo is as bad as it seems (why add another character into the MCU????) but the views are higher the first 24 hrs than Secret Invasion...maybe it needs to air the whole thing
@joeblankenship377
@joeblankenship377 Жыл бұрын
Some shows could definitely be cut up into a 2 or 3 part mini-series. Be like having a little Marvel movie every week.
@takerhulk3163
@takerhulk3163 Жыл бұрын
Dos feel like watching alot of it at once would be good. Enjoying it anyway
@markpeay6494
@markpeay6494 Жыл бұрын
@ScreenCrush @RyanArey : I don’t think Rhodes has been a skrull the whole time, I think later in the season we’ll see that the real Rhodes was captured & put in a skrull pod fairly recently - which would serve the narrative much better than if he’s actually been a spy skrull for a long time. Hopefully, the heroes will break the real Rhodes out of his skrull pod then he’ll track down / defeat his skrull imposter, then help Fury fight the invasion w his War Machine armor - ending with Rhodes having been ok all along, that the shitty asshole we’ve seen in the show was just the imposter skrull.
@Yay4Yay
@Yay4Yay Жыл бұрын
Facts and there’s still gonna be armor wars allegedly
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what’s the issue with this reveal? I mean they drop the voice at the end of last week to make everyone ask and hype up discussions about it. Then this episode they confirm it is Rhodey and he’s a Skrull, but more than that it’s a female Skrull, thus possibly gettin comics fans to think maybe it’s the Skrull Queen. So each reveal has its own set of buzz and questions. And really, if this is about the shockingness of the reveal, let’s be real here, channels like yours kinda contributes to pulling the rug out from the show when it comes to reveals because y’all hype up certain things, so what’s meant to be interesting reveal is just pedestrian and expected.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
The Skrull who impersonates Rhodey was Raava. Not Veranke.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100 Yes I’m aware of that but Raava could still be playing the Veranke role for all we know.
@08aoc
@08aoc Жыл бұрын
I think Secret invasion should have been a Captain America film with the current heroes and there could be major reveals there e.g. Rhodey turns on the Avengers wearing the War Machine suit 😮
@TheRedVelvetScare
@TheRedVelvetScare Жыл бұрын
They should have had Rhodey been a Skrull and have Fury been a Skrull, and throw in Ross as a Skrull, but they're all double agents and no one knows who is working towards what so they are all working against each other, but actually helping each other out.
@Tinkerbe11
@Tinkerbe11 Жыл бұрын
I think, when Nick Fury listened to his wife planning to kill him, and being devastated, that was really emotional. And it was a big betrayal.
@Jaysin412
@Jaysin412 Жыл бұрын
Ending was great, the part between Fury and Priscilla was heartbreaking. Talos was heartbreaking. Super skrulls were cool, just wished theyd have brought the F4 into the MCU before they debuted the super skrulls
@boi2803
@boi2803 Жыл бұрын
I can bet that Rhodey has been a skrull for this show only, it would suck but that is rlly how I can see this go
@SunshineCasy
@SunshineCasy Жыл бұрын
Why do they expect Fury to find them a new planet when they know humans aren't a spacefaring species yet? And for that matter, why do they keep blaming Fury for going to his SPACE STATION when that is the best place for him to look for a new planet for them?
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Жыл бұрын
Yup, nothing takes the punch out of a story like manufactured conflict.
@SunshineCasy
@SunshineCasy Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Bingo. And man do they have to tell a lot of backstory just to manufacture this conflict.
@Jayblazey
@Jayblazey Жыл бұрын
Curse you weak writing!
@AC-kx4zr
@AC-kx4zr Жыл бұрын
Because Carol Danvers is flying through space looking for one.
@TheMrfluffi
@TheMrfluffi Жыл бұрын
Fury and Captain Marvel promised to find them a new planet, Fury was meant to help them feel safe and settled on Earth while Captain Marvel looked for a new planet for them. Fury was their link to Captain Marvel and, through his connection to the avengers, he has had contact with multiple space faring people. Especially with the reveal that Fury has been using them as super spies its basically like a company moved you to another country and promised to buy you a house and bring your family over later, and then stuck you in a barely okay hotel 2 hours from where they expect you to work and did nothing for years. They fulfilled their promise to Captain Marvel and, even more so, him and they've done nothing to repay it.
@fcisneros91
@fcisneros91 Жыл бұрын
Raava is Pricilla and Fury’s daughter, she not only resents fury for breaking his promise to the skrulls, but also failing her as a father. As Rhodey she never calls him “Fury” to piss him off
@pepetrueno8722
@pepetrueno8722 Жыл бұрын
It was basically a given that Rhodes was a Skrull after that restaurant scene… that was not normal behavior. That was telegraphed to the audience very sloppily. It shows bad storytelling…
@technoe02
@technoe02 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a sponsor that isn't an outright scam.
@BryanAlbury38
@BryanAlbury38 Жыл бұрын
I think that they're saving the best of this show for the last two episodes. Because it's been low budget pretty much the whole way through. I really believe it's going to make us at the end go wow.
@lloyddavies5587
@lloyddavies5587 Жыл бұрын
Not expecting a "Enterprise-D" moment like in Picard, but maybe something perhaps
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын
The copium is strong with this one.
@nighthawk2548
@nighthawk2548 Жыл бұрын
At this point it really doesn't matter how good the last 2 episodes are tbh.
@HolyFieldM5
@HolyFieldM5 Жыл бұрын
Show is damn near perfect but ofc “marvel fans” will find a way to complain like always smh
@nighthawk2548
@nighthawk2548 Жыл бұрын
@@HolyFieldM5 If you think this show is "damn near perfect" your opinion is absolutely worthless.
@MrDecimo99
@MrDecimo99 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with YT critics is that they know / read the source materials ( comic book ) and knew what's comming and what to expect. So it felt sort of cheesy for them. But you gotta remember that these writers at Marvels also have to consider the people who simply enjoy the show as it is with too little or no knowledge of the source material.
@hightolerance8728
@hightolerance8728 Жыл бұрын
I think that’s why I enjoy everything about the MCU bc I only vaguely know of the Comics
@RedFrog_191
@RedFrog_191 Жыл бұрын
I don’t read the comics and I still thought this was mid
@marshsundeen
@marshsundeen Жыл бұрын
They whine and complain because there is no way it could ever match the scale of the comic.
@Jayblazey
@Jayblazey Жыл бұрын
👎
@donovangomez9489
@donovangomez9489 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I 100% agree
@ronnyandernie
@ronnyandernie Жыл бұрын
I watched the first two episodes and gave up. I don’t need a multi episode explanation of what happed to and how we get back a character I didn’t know was missing to begin with. And all just so he can inevitably team up with other characters in a movie. Too many Marvel projects are becoming a promise for something better.
@spankingmonkey53
@spankingmonkey53 Жыл бұрын
THIS video feels like the crossover masterpiece we should’ve gotten with secret invasion
@cidivine
@cidivine Жыл бұрын
I think the Rhodey reveal came earlier than it seems to be getting credit for. During the seeing where he fires Fury, he calls him "Nick", which in Captain Marvel was the giveaway that Talos was a Skrull, and they also do a callback to that the following episode when trying to stop the missile launch. I also think (or am at least hoping) that there is a specific reason we haven't seen Fury after the blip or Soren's death on screen yet. The flashbacks in each episode seem to be moving forward in chronological order. I think in the next 2 episodes, we are going to see some flashbacks that fill a lot of that in, and in doing so, will make it obvious why they didn't show that before.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
Maria Hill called him Nick in Infinity War. And that was the real Hill.
@cidivine
@cidivine Жыл бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100 1) In this very show we are talking about here, Secret Invasion, they mention the nobody calls him Nick thing again and use it to identify a skrull, so in the internal logic of this show, it tracks. 2) While we could just point to Infinity War being before Captain Marvel, so this could have been a retcon. Or...since we didn't know where the Skrulls were in the MCU at the time, it could also be argued we have no idea if that was the real Hill or not, and weren't even looking. And we already know that Soren has been Hill before.
@AshU-ug2fy
@AshU-ug2fy Жыл бұрын
​@@SeanWheeler100I was actually questioning Hill's death. Is she dead? Was she a Skrull? I was wondering if she is also Skrull Rhodey and they faked Skrull Hill's death to frame Fury to get him out of the picture. Break him so he goes down the deep end and discredit him at the same time. Because guess who made multiple copies of Hill's death and bragged about it? Also, Rhodey is a female skull. I'm wondering if they are one and the same. Sometimes skrull Rhodey seems conflicted and thoughtful, I wonder if it's because the Skrull had to play Hill for so long she became attached to Fury, and now doesn't know which side to choose. A Double agent that has become confused on which side to take. Someone else pointed out that the Rhodey Skrull looked weird, different from the others we've seen. Visually, they may have done that for a bigger reveal down the road so we know which Skrull we are looking at when a group of Skrull are together. This would put a twist on a twist if Hill was always a Skrull working with fury for the past several years. Someone else pointed out that Fury has been acting different too, and he could potentially also be a Skrull. Deep baked Skrull mind fuckery! We'll see.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
@@AshU-ug2fy Really bad injuries like getting shot could turn a Skrull back into a Skrull. The fact that she didn't turn into a Skrull with that gunshot wound proves she's human. And besides, Gravik shot her to hurt Fury. Is there a point in keeping the real Maria alive as he shot a Skrull Maria? No. And I don't think her death was faked either. Fury paid a doctor to declare him dead in The Winter Soldier. Maria died in Fury's arms. Fury felt her pulse. She's dead.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
@@cidivine Since we know that Talos only masqueraded as Fury while Fury was on S.A.B.E.R. after the blip, and it was the real Fury who was blipped and not Talos, it stands to reason to know that it was the real Maria Hill blipped with him. Maria probably visited Fury on S.A.B.E.R. and that's why Soren posed as her in Far From Home. Also, we know that Fury wouldn't let Skrull friends call him Nick because that Skrull impersonated Talos in that moment, so according to that scene, anyone who calls him Nick is an enemy Skrull. And yet, Maria calls him Nick and he didn't react.
@lungabiyela9081
@lungabiyela9081 Жыл бұрын
It's not the show that's at fault. It's all of us. Every week, after every episode, we all rush to KZfaq to watch discussions that by the time the next episode or film rolls up, we know what to expect. The show's not the problem. It's all of us who are the problem.
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 Жыл бұрын
Ehhh not really, my feelings of dissatisfaction with the show actually lead me to KZfaq to see if I was in the minority, only to find out I was right about my perception, and I’m not happy about it, shows been meh, just don’t have any investment in it.
@Bigiboi_07
@Bigiboi_07 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@StopImAlreadyDan
@StopImAlreadyDan Жыл бұрын
I think I fixed the issues with this. Replace Val’s appearances to date with Rhodey. - He sends Yelena to kill an Avenger - Tries to make a team of villains (John Walker etc) to besmirch the good will towards super heroes - Has opportunity to kidnap Ross to copy them during Wakanda Forever As the audience we would have been thinking he’s building a new Avengers team, acting as an ally to Ross and then we’d be like “wtf?” with his betrayal of Clint. Builds suspense and intrigue around the character which in turn gets more people watching Secret Invasion.
@ScreamxBlackk
@ScreamxBlackk Жыл бұрын
Your film knowledge never goes unnoticed man !
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 Жыл бұрын
What I find strange is that Rhodey (in skrull form) has different teeth and extremely blue eyes. The other skrulls don’t have these features. Something is different about her
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let expectations ruin it for you. I like the series.
@yoj7590
@yoj7590 Жыл бұрын
True this channel just wants to hate it. And I like to see ordinary people trying to save the universe, tbh this is a refreshing series.
@trewavvy6676
@trewavvy6676 Жыл бұрын
Def think this show is getting unnecessary hate when it’s actually pretty good
@takerhulk3163
@takerhulk3163 Жыл бұрын
Didnt read alot of the comics when was younger just hulk and x men. Mostly watched the cartoons and movies. So dosnt bother me they dont copy exactly what the comics did. Any way enjoying the show.
@CckRchRsh
@CckRchRsh Жыл бұрын
At this point im more shocked that you didn't see this sub par show coming. Pretty much every major franchise eventually dwindles down to less than a fraction of its better self.
@ArmandoReportes
@ArmandoReportes Жыл бұрын
9:09 You nailed it! Executives are saying - Hey, we expect people to go to the theater just because we have a character they like. We put together a mediocre story with subpar FX, threw in some controversial character changes to generate publicity, and they are not paying to watch it? People are really tired of superhero movies. What else could we do?". - Get a director and writers who love comics and are great storytellers, be respectful of the source, pay for great CGI. Make the movies appeal to a global audience, and stay out of U.S. politics. - No, that's not it. We just have to reduce the budget, use less CGI, stick to using movies to make political statements, and hope for the best. Or just plain stop making superhero movies, because people are tired of them.
@s1gne
@s1gne Жыл бұрын
I believe something bigger is happening and that's why we haven't seen what Fury's been up to after the blip. And Rhodey/skrull seems conflicted so he might be a counter-spy. But we'll see how it develops.
@herbertscott9575
@herbertscott9575 Жыл бұрын
Best Episode yet! Loving this show. You're looking waaaaay to deep into this. Just enjoy the show, stop trying to plan your content😅
@ceejeezyCGZ
@ceejeezyCGZ Жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@TravelsTTG
@TravelsTTG Жыл бұрын
I love this show. I feel these people come up with impossible expectations and ideas then when their theories don’t come true they get disappointed.
@nighthawk2548
@nighthawk2548 Жыл бұрын
Nobody's looking to deep. You're just very easily entertained with incredibly low standards is all. The quality has dropped significantly compared to the earlier MCU projects but you'd probably be happy watching anything marvel puts out nowadays.
@mrgotitfordalow
@mrgotitfordalow Жыл бұрын
​@nighthawk2548 You honestly just sound like a hater that's upset because people like the show. If only you could see how dumb you look making these comments about what other people's standards should be. Man, a lot of marvel fans are just entitled cry babies.
@Bigiboi_07
@Bigiboi_07 Жыл бұрын
​@@nighthawk2548cool cool
@gregmartinez7881
@gregmartinez7881 Жыл бұрын
Fury had them glasses on and knew when he got fired by Rhodey that he was a skrull then. Think about it Tony and them found out around Ironman 2 about skrulls. Tony made some sort of technology that can reveal a skrull. Also, it explains why fury was acting like he was exhausted on the bench after he got fired. That was him finding out and reacting to it.
@jkennedy8374
@jkennedy8374 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the glasses part for several reasons, but firstly because of how Fury was talking all that black shit to Rhodey. American black people do that to one another to check the temperature of each other. Just to see who you're dealing with. I do it to Africans when they say certain things around me lol
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
We don't even know if Tony found out about the Skrulls. In fact, maybe the real Rhodey didn't know a thing about Skrulls and Raava made up a way that Rhodey could have known about the Skrulls to protect herself from a bluff Fury could have made.
@JamieChambers
@JamieChambers Жыл бұрын
“Half-ass and obligatory” … sounds like my dad’s old critique of me mowing the lawn.
@Jcs1aughter
@Jcs1aughter Жыл бұрын
"You're part of screencrush nation here, we're used to watching every MCU show the morning before we go to work" I feel called out.
@blue_lancer_es
@blue_lancer_es Жыл бұрын
Revealing that nandos name is matt and not nando shocked me more than the rhoadie reveal. 😮
@Mejeke
@Mejeke Жыл бұрын
“They’re telling us instead of showing us.” What did you want? An episode of Fury crying into a tub of ice cream and ignoring his phone. Post blip he’s been no where on screen. Regardless of the events. Are the cameras supposed to cut over to sad Fury in space? Here he is, look at him being all sad.
@shawnh9111
@shawnh9111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would’ve been better
@thebigmangamer
@thebigmangamer Жыл бұрын
A lot of industry folks have boycotted the show due to the AI used in the opening credits. This might seem like a small thing to boycott a show over, but as we're seeing from the strike meetings, AI is going to be a hot button topic in Hollywood now, and the industry wants to hold the line against greedy studios exploiting it in favor or artists and actors.
@JosephSAMUELJonesMommyTammTamm
@JosephSAMUELJonesMommyTammTamm Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TheMrfluffi
@TheMrfluffi Жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems like a small thing until you hear their point that they suspect its being used here, and in such a small part, to try and gauge audience response and to condition people to expecting and being okay with it's use.
@thebiigbuhhda8744
@thebiigbuhhda8744 Жыл бұрын
It also felt like they gave up after Rhodey's reveal. Him just sitting there like he doesn't care while the president is being attacked. He could of at least acted like it was a dire situation
@williamcopeland8626
@williamcopeland8626 Жыл бұрын
I just wish they would release all the episodes at once I love to binge watch
@RobertDownySenior
@RobertDownySenior Жыл бұрын
There doing that with echo
@lalo-kt4te
@lalo-kt4te Жыл бұрын
I actually think they played it well, I thought fury was gonna tell warmachine skrull that he knows but he didn't and that was interesting
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 Жыл бұрын
Of course Rhodey is now a jerk, she's a woman. Lol
@mikehall7189
@mikehall7189 Жыл бұрын
When even Disney admit that they have diluted the brand and had too many spin off shows you know something is wrong.
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын
You have to love how Disney begged audiences to stop treating every entry of the MCU as "might-see" content when they didn't bother spacing out their releases and as such; they had episodes of Ms Marvel airing the same weeks as Thor 4's premiere.
@lloyddavies5587
@lloyddavies5587 Жыл бұрын
The viewership for Star Trek Strange New Worlds is probably better...
@Collect2Disconnect
@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын
SKIP knew they were gonna get to into this when he showed how upset he was about a damn phone call 😂😢
@sirvelvetknight2590
@sirvelvetknight2590 Жыл бұрын
Re: Apathy - Lately I've been intentionally putting off watching shows for the first few weeks, so I can get through them faster. Usually after 2-3 episodes I start because it's clear spoilers are about to come out everywhere. This time it wasn't until Episode 4 that I even considered getting started, and didn't really get around to the whole season until right before Episode 6 dropped. What was different? NOBODY I saw on social media regularly was talking about. With Falcon/Winter Soldier of the "dollar store Captain America" were popping up all over after the first episode. With every other show, I've got half a dozen friends on FB alone who post about every episode within a day of them dropping. This time? Ep 6 dropped yesterday, and I still haven't seen anyone outside Marvel spaces talking about it.
@richardpidgeon6936
@richardpidgeon6936 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually really enjoying this show far - much more than a lot of the recent MCU films and TV shows, so I'm surprised it isn't receiving more of a positive reaction. I agree that it could have/ should have been a more 'bigger' story with more impact, maybe devoting more of Phase 4 to this arc and then building to Kang for Phase 5/6 rather than this feeling a little inconsequential at the moment when we know who the big bad of the next few phases is. But overall I still think this is an underrated show. Will see how it finishes up though before making a judgement.
@imright_urwrong
@imright_urwrong Жыл бұрын
Someone is starting to come over to the side that has been saying this for a while now.... not just about Secret Invasion, but the entire MCU
@ianomondi3152
@ianomondi3152 Жыл бұрын
Then why u so bothered about the MCU if it's trash😂😂
@cruzinthruspace
@cruzinthruspace Жыл бұрын
What side? The over analytical nitpicking man baby side?
@qcrew2938
@qcrew2938 Жыл бұрын
Ryan has been shit talking the star wars shows also... this is what nerds do they nit pick everything
@imright_urwrong
@imright_urwrong Жыл бұрын
@@ianomondi3152 I said nothing about trash. I was actually quite vague. You said "trash" which from a psychological point of view is quite interesting. Some might call that a Freudian slip on your part.... just saying
@ianomondi3152
@ianomondi3152 Жыл бұрын
@@imright_urwrong yeah thanks for that really understood everything u were going for there 👍🏿👍🏿
@AMR-ri6ms
@AMR-ri6ms Жыл бұрын
It's one of the best shows MCU ever came up with
@redred1952
@redred1952 Жыл бұрын
That's a really low bar
@AMR-ri6ms
@AMR-ri6ms Жыл бұрын
@@redred1952 Still higher than folks calling she hulk a very interesting take There were lads out there who apparently were astounded by Doctor strange MVOM And it sucked , from bad cgi to very fast screen play , it had everything a bad screenplay can ever had
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
I’ll be genuinely surprised if Hill doesn’t come back. Maybe there were Skrulls from the space station helping. Why would they? I don’t know. But if Fury got “killed” at the end of the 5th ep. And suddenly that other shot of him coming down from space happened… and he and Hill could go into the final battle armed with lots of info. It’s shocking to me they killed her so casually. Fury has faked his death on screen before. And they KNEW they were going up against strong, shape shifting aliens. How could they - with all their experience - think they could stop Gravik by themselves without any backup or appropriate weapons? Very very strange. Unless she shows back up.
@dennydude
@dennydude Жыл бұрын
Right? I'm not getting super spy, it feels more like Spy Kids.
@jeremyorth5138
@jeremyorth5138 Жыл бұрын
I think her death felt pretty real compared to most screen deaths. She just got shot and died. It wasn't a big climactic moment, and it just felt very real to me. That's how it is in life.
@EpicMickeyFanOfficial
@EpicMickeyFanOfficial Жыл бұрын
thanks for spoiling it in the thumbnail for the people who were waiting til the weekend☹
@bitrunner2000
@bitrunner2000 Жыл бұрын
i knew Rhodey was a Skrull as soon as i saw him walking...he was paralyzed from the spinal injury in Civil War, and the beginning of Doctor Strange has him refuse to consult/operate on him (i think it's pretty clear it's Rhodey they are talking about). so wherever Rhodey is, if he's still alive, he's still not able to walk by himself...
@mcmcnutt
@mcmcnutt Жыл бұрын
100% agree on the scale. When Secret Invasion was first announced as a TV show, I was disappointed. This is a movie level storyline
@patricke0n
@patricke0n Жыл бұрын
Had this been released as a complete miniseries, a lot of these issues would be fixed. Remove the time between episodes and i think people would have been much more sucked in, tense, unsure of what the future holds.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
If they weren't wasting time with Echo & Iron heart they could've made this 11 episodes & really focused on every nuisance but nope they wanna make shows about characters no one cares about. I mean I didn't walk away from wakanda 4ever like I wanna see more of the scientist but I do wanna see more Namor.
@WildBlue533
@WildBlue533 Жыл бұрын
I remember how excited I was waiting for the next new episodes when watching Wanda Vision. Hasn’t been the same with Secret Invasion for some reason.
@annafield3136
@annafield3136 Жыл бұрын
I feel like one of the commentators hit the nail on the head when he said it lacked energy. It has an air of depression if anything. The protagonists are worn out and tired and feel hopeless so it makes me feel the same which is not what I go to marvel for. Even the attack lacked excitement
@Zefram0911
@Zefram0911 Жыл бұрын
every time Ryan says obligatory... take a shot.
@MonteGruhlke
@MonteGruhlke Жыл бұрын
As an afterthought, in the comic books, every mainstream comic had that character eventually dealing with a major or world-ending event on their own. It was THEIR book, so obviously. The Avengers, Fantastic Four, etc. weren't always called in because our favorite character would never say "Well, this is beyond me. Better call them in." Well, until after the Iron Man movie first came out, then every comic had Iron Man show up to solve their problems because he was funny and quirky now, but that's another issue.
@MikeD8318
@MikeD8318 Жыл бұрын
So far Secret Invasion has been a massive let down, too much chatter not enough reveals of who is a Skrull or who might be, I'd like it to be revealed that Don Cheadle's James Rhodes actually replaced Terrance Howard's James Rhodes and did a mind trick thing to convince the characters that it was the same guy, but we know it isn't
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
That would be unnecessary the mind trick u mentioned.
@flybriur
@flybriur Жыл бұрын
Seems like you're not a fan of spy thrillers, and that is what this is. And it does a pretty good job of it.
@Spookyglam
@Spookyglam Жыл бұрын
My favorite scene out of all of the MCU movies/shows was when Hydra tried to kill Nick Fury, it really introduced the audience who were unfamiliar with the comic books how badass this person really was without having any super powers! This show has absolutely none of that, it also feels so far removed from everything else that I'm honestly starting to think that this is an alternate universe that will be revealed at the end
@danplaysguitar11
@danplaysguitar11 Жыл бұрын
they're not telling you what happened to Fury during the blip, they're SHOWING you how it effected him. THE DEFINITION of show, don't tell.
@jojetparedes4024
@jojetparedes4024 Жыл бұрын
I was half expecting Paul to perform the "I'm sorry " song here...anyway, nice exchange of ideas and I hope the last 2 episodes would generate even more interesting discussions...
@PDash919
@PDash919 Жыл бұрын
So, if Luke's reaction to Darth Vader represented what the audience felt, then why can't Fury's reaction to Rhodey be the same thing? Yup, knew it all along.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
We all knew it. It was projected from the first time we saw Rhodey in this show.
@ceejeezyCGZ
@ceejeezyCGZ Жыл бұрын
Excellent story, superb acting (I'm a huge 'Mr. Robot' fan). Maybe if the show was called SECRET UPRISING there would be less confusion?
@OutCast7704
@OutCast7704 Жыл бұрын
Ok hold up, hear me out, what if rhodey's reveal was done so poorly because they knew that we knew about rhodey and just put it out there and what if there's a much larger reveal coming? Just saying, that would be cool tho
@cykurosaki1337
@cykurosaki1337 Жыл бұрын
They should have made the Black Widow movie more “spy” and “dark and gritty” instead of Secret Invasion. What a wasted opportunity to have superheroes in this series.
@DoubleA012
@DoubleA012 Жыл бұрын
Where is Quake?! I though we were finally going to get Daisy Johnson in this series.
@DaronNooner84
@DaronNooner84 Жыл бұрын
One thing I haven’t seen ANYONE pickup up on that should’ve clued everyone into the fact that Rhodey was a Skrull is the fact that in Avenger’s Endgame, Rhodey had to use leg braces that Tony Stark made for him after he was permanently paralyzed in Captain America: Civil War when Vision shot him down. So if this is the real Rhodey walking around he would have to use those braces just to walk. But when we saw him in Falcon and the Winter Soldier and now in Secret Invasion, he’s no longer wearing the leg braces that he’d have to wear since he’s paralyzed. That’s what let me know Rhodey is a Skrull and has been one since at least Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
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