Hey SuperDerek, Secret of Evermore was the first game of my career as an art director in the games industry. Revisiting it made me smile and cringe but it sure brought back memories of all flavors. Great job reviewing it, thank you for your generosity :).
@SuperDerek2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! It's awesome to hear from one of the original staff members behind the game! Sorry for only just now seeing this message. Spam filter caught it. Super cool to see you've also kept on working in the games industry! Thanks for watching. :)
@Telmarine55 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your contribution to Secret of Evernore. I love that game!
@fappydabear17744 ай бұрын
Thanks for yoyr contribution to one of my favorite games as a child. Art in this game was fantastic.
@somerandomguy98912 ай бұрын
Dude, we need a remaster of that game for steam...and of a lot of games of those years, in fact.
@SoSleepyE4 жыл бұрын
This was the only Squaresoft game made solely by an American Team. It's where Jeremy Soule got his start. This game NEEDS more recognition and a re-release.
@rezterralico43694 жыл бұрын
Would live is Square Enix rereleases it. Heck Mana 3 got an english translation, why not a Japanese translation. Just saying.
@Kain5th3 жыл бұрын
I’d recognize his score anywhere
@JoseAguilar-kn6ii2 жыл бұрын
Those background music pieces are still memorable for me to this day. Anything is possible these days with having these old games redone.
@ItsBillsFault Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons why it has never been re-released is that we had an entire custom toolchain we used to create assets and build code in the Squaresoft office in Redmond. It had nothing to do with the existing productions in Japan, so after our studio was shut down and we were laid off, there was no one left who knew how to (re-)build and modify it. This is probably the stumbling block that keeps Square-Enix of today from ever re-releasing it for the virtual console or otherwise. I've tried on multiple occasions to elicit interest from Square in either the game or in releasing the IP to someone like me who would bring it into the modern era somehow, but no matter what external contacts I know who know people inside, I seem to be utterly incapable of getting anyone inside to respond to me. I get nothing but radio silence when I try to contact anyone inside Square. It's sad, because I'd very much like to see it on the virtual console myself.
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs-up if you like these razor-sharp pixels from original hardware! :D Also, quick correction: Secret of Evermore did not use the exact engine from Squaresoft. The Western branch actually had to reverse-engineer it because Squaresoft was being ridiculous. Huge props to the team for that accomplishment!
@dan474834 жыл бұрын
It's a quality capture for sure.
@japanimationman44424 жыл бұрын
Nice footage! I'm always fond of the fuzzy look that we got back on SD TV sets, but I don't know how you could capture that look without pointing a camera directly at your TV. Maybe an emulator with the right filters turned on, but that would defeat the point of using original hardware.
@headkicked4 жыл бұрын
The artwork got me hyped to play it when it came out. But even now, I still love it! 12 year old me had good taste 😅
@packpock43696 ай бұрын
See that's what I hop people realize and think about with SOE. The fact that it's not Mana it's, it's own thing with some similarities. I feel like it gets an unfair comparison like it's supposed to be on the same lines. The fact that they had to reverse engineer the game because the Square Japan didn't want them using the same code is crazy. Kinda like how they acted after developing Mario RPG they went on an a hiatus towards Nintendo because of different philosophies. I get the feeling that they probably felt Secret of Evermore was beneath them. It didn't get the attention and marketing the Mana series got or FF and Chrono Trigger. When you think about back then they had to compete against Chrono Trigger, FF6, Trials of Mana all in the same amount of time with FF6 coming out a year prior but still just a year apart. Those 3 games are the biggest iconic jrpg's and rpg's in the genre. Then there is Secret of Evermore it just didn't have a chance going up against those two games in 95 Trials and Trigger are frickin amazing what can you say. Square mastered the genre but that didn't mean they couldn't have helped the American team it could have been even more but they didn't care about it. That's why it's has a cult following today it's not big most still haven't played it or they just compare it to Secret of Mana. I think that's crazy to compare them, they're not the same some thing's were better in SOE. Alchemy system, graphics were a bit sharper and it's such a different captivating world to get into. It's different not the best but the atmosphere is worth the dive and anyone's time. It doesn't take itself seriously is something you said Derek the story is goofy it's a throwback to 80's and 90's America.
@SNESdrunk4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how you continually refer to the main character as "Marty" lol. Great points about the AI controlling the dog, its shorter range always made it frustrating as hell for me to control, but yeah the AI was _way_ better than any player could be. Really appreciate seeing your take on this one!
@loto59194 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree with your review of this game.
@xyz-ns7ym4 жыл бұрын
@@loto5919 lol
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
loto, did you take a look at his revisit of the game from about a month ago?
@PrydaCro4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the best Snes channel on KZfaq
@Dorelaxen4 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's Sneeeeeessssssss Drunk!
@ItsBillsFault Жыл бұрын
Hey dude! I'm Brian Fehdrau, the lead programmer on Evermore. I'm a little late the party here, but I wanted to chime in and clarify something: We didn't actually use the Secret of Mana engine. Evermore's engine was written from scratch by me and a handful of other programmers. For legal reasons (taxes, I think?-I was never clear on this) we at Squaresoft in the US were considered a separate entity and we were not given access to any of the existing IP or code over at Square Co. Ltd in Japan. The only thing from Japan that was ever in our game, even temporarily, was a placeholder character sprite that I manually copied, pixel by pixel, from a photo of SoM gameplay, early on before we'd hired any artists to make our own sprites. (And according to my boss, Doug Smith, apparently I might have ruffled some feathers over in Japan by doing so, though nothing came of it.) We were very much on our own from day one. We did end up producing something that felt like Mana's engine to a great degree, which actually bothered some of us, because we really wanted to be doing something more original, rather than be seen as copying Mana, but the directions were to make a game that felt like Mana but with Americana themes¹, so it was what it was. Actually, I guess the fact that people assume our game ran on the same engine as the beloved Secret of Mana should be a point of pride for those of us who built its actual engine from scratch. Maybe I shouldn't worry so much about explicitly being given credit for our work. :) Anyway, I always appreciate it when someone plays or reviews the game, even so many years later, and keeps it alive in people's minds, so thanks for that! _______ ¹ - _Edit: 🤦🏻♂We should have called it _*_Secret of Americana!_*_ Oof! Swing and a miss!_
@dan474834 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite games of all time. It just has a feel and atmosphere to it that makes it completely unique. It's hard to describe until you play it.
@JoseAguilar-kn6ii2 жыл бұрын
I love some of the historical detail implemented in the levels as well as the music ambience. I understand what you are saying.
@Deniki6664 жыл бұрын
I loved this game when I was 13. I still love it today at 37. I never viewed it as "what we got instead of Seiken Densetsu 3" . I had a blast whiling away the summer afternoon playing this with my friend and it's one of the first games I boot up when I load emulators. I wish they would re-release it. I'd buy it without a thought.
@rezterralico43694 жыл бұрын
Got my copy in 2000 when I was 15 with a used copy for 15 CAD from a video rental store. I remember a person in the neighbour hood went to do paintballing when I got to the third area map. I think it was the day I finished my grade 9 provicial exams so summer had started for me.
@Spiritcr1jsher2 жыл бұрын
im 38 and still play this game. It was a one of a kind with tons of secrets .
@TheCmurley1314 жыл бұрын
3 things I'll never forget about this game: (1) the strategy guide is written like an actual story, and as a young kid I would read it in the car while my parents drove us places, (2) the music in this game completely blew my mind as a kid and every once in a while over ~25 years I've found myself tapping out the beat to the different jungle soundtracks with my knuckles on my desk. (3) I also remember calling the "hint line" phone number once when I was stuck in the Egyptian arc in the game. Much later in life when I met my wife I found out it this was one of her and her brothers' favorite games from their childhood too, so Evermore is a very special game! I have a lot of bias but I place it firmly above Mana.
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Dude, all of that is so awesome! Thanks for sharing your memories!
@thehalvening89424 жыл бұрын
as a kid I loved this and mana but I always kind of liked this game a little more. He didn't mention that Cecil from FFIV makes a cameo appearance
@Scorch4284 жыл бұрын
DONT TOUCH THE CHICKENS. THE GOATS ARE FINE, BUT LEAVE THE CHICKENS ALONE!
@Scorch4284 жыл бұрын
Try talking to the chicken 1500 times at the market :P
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cody. You should check out my new Secret of Evermore soundtrack remake. You might like it.
@richarddlee9304 жыл бұрын
Secret of evermore was one of my favorites growing up, I regret selling it when I was younger.
@DuoBeard4 жыл бұрын
I love this review, I’m so glad more people can appreciate this game for what it is and what’s it’s not. You nailed it Derek
@squallthegriever4 жыл бұрын
This, Earthbound (Mother 2), Zombies Ate My Neighbors, and Chrono Trigger are just so epic SNES games.
@nanoglitch66934 жыл бұрын
SoE always got an unfair amount of hate but man this game captivated me. The world of Evermore was so addictive and felt really unique compared to 99% of other rpg's I'd been playing. It had that vibe of "real-world" adventure like Earthbound where normal boy gets sucked into a crazy adventure. One thing I've heard about the development process of this game is that even though the dev team had been tasked with making a game that emulated Mana's ring system and gameplay mechanics, Square wouldn't let them have access to any of Mana's source code. So they had to rebuild all the mechanics from scratch.
@GNARK1LL4204 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites. Wish they had made a sequel.
@CoobyPls4 жыл бұрын
Look up Born of Dreamers. There are many SoE pretenders to the remake throne, and this is the latest. I've not looked at it since following them and their spriteart in IG. Also go bother the programmers with us in the last place they were seen at rainwoodworks.blogspot.com/2010/09/secret-of-evermore-was-one-of-my.html?m=1
@Fahrenheit384 жыл бұрын
Ohh hell yeah, I know it's flawed but secret of evermore is one of my childhood favorites. I've 100 percent this game countless times over the years. Recently used the two player patch to beat it with my wife, it had some issues though that needed me to use save states to get past parts with 2 player disabled then re-enable it.
@wizardx41874 жыл бұрын
"beat it with my wife" don't need a patch for that do you?
@jeffstellarry79964 жыл бұрын
Derek is easily one of the best game reviewers on KZfaq. Every one of them is very interesting and informative.
@billyblack63814 жыл бұрын
Best review ever for Secret of Evermore.
@Scorch4284 жыл бұрын
I felt really attached to the storyline, I guess thats because it was made in America. Its like a cross between Earthbound and Chrono Trigger
@ThatFetcherFargoth3 жыл бұрын
@@Scorch428 I agree. It's like my favorite game of all time, and in all the years I've been a gamer, I've never played a game that had Evermore's... feel...vibe? I'm not sure what the word is. But I felt super connected to the story of Evermore, which had never happened to me before. I couldn't relate/identify to/with the protagonists in any of the Dragon Warrior games I'd played before, or any of the Final Fantasy games, or Secret of Mana. But Evermore's protag had a lot in common with me, some of which was that he was a kid from the real world like me, he was from a small town like me, he liked Sci-Fi movies and cheesy B movies like me, and he had a dog like me. This game is very special to me.
@ryanl873011 күн бұрын
This one was a cornerstone of my childhood. Thanks for the memories and nostalgia.
@A.S.Bridges4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review Derek! Great use of comedy and sub-reference. Your production value continues to improve with each video and it's thrilling as a viewer to be along for the ride. I'll always be a fan of your passion, research, and expertise. Keep fighting that good fight brother! 😎
@Gemraw3 жыл бұрын
The tone and feel of this game is incredible. I hope there will be a 2-player remake with better control of the dog some day.
@vicrattlehead63863 жыл бұрын
One of my fav game ever. Unique story, atmospheric music.
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vic. You should check out my new Secret of Evermore soundtrack remake. You might like it.
@Mark_of_Tread4 жыл бұрын
A Ben Stein reference in 2020!? This is the content I subscribe for sir!
@RetroGameRemix2 жыл бұрын
Love how you brought up renting games from your local grocery store - I remember doing that too! Watching this video because I’m on the fence with buying this game… I’ve played it before but like you never got further than the first area. Definitely like that it takes that mana formula but does it’s own thing!
@brundeasie_OG4 жыл бұрын
The intro to these videos makes he happy. Reminds me of simpler times
@Gxyz2224 жыл бұрын
Don't laugh at me, Derek, but Secret of Evermore is one of my favorite games of all time! Sure you've got all the deep mazes and somewhat unbalanced story, but this little devil has everything else going for it! Good review, good video!
@The_Cosmic_Navigator3 жыл бұрын
I love this game, was the first RPG I bought with my own cash. Gameplay wise I felt like it differed from Mana in a way. Mana seemed like it was sometimes balls to the wall fighting and usually faster paced than SoE, which always felt like you had to think ahead before acting. You have to purchase ingredients to prepare for the journey ahead, time your attacks just right, and make sure the Doggo stays on his feet. Not to mention the absolute masterpiece of a soundtrack. Soule really knocked it out of the park with SoE, I still find myself listening to the soundtrack 15 years later.
@coolgreek794 жыл бұрын
Its been a while since your last review, and you returned with one of my favourite action RPG ... Funny enough I had a terrible time as well with the game until i FINALLY figure out yhat i can charge my weapons... Then it was Javelin type weapons all the way for me.
@MCHH-ml2qq3 жыл бұрын
been awhile since I watched your channel! had a lot of fun playing through evermore a long time ago, really enjoyed the ambient loneliness in this game compared to the mana games love the soundtrack too same artist wrote the soundtrack for newer games like Skyrim too
@drewturner39155 күн бұрын
You are the first reviewer I've seen that actually points out that the hero looks like Marty McFly
@erikolthoff73433 жыл бұрын
Hey Derek I just found you this morning while I was searching for a decent lufia review and man I love your videos. Just need to say this, greetings from Germany and please keep up
@coffeepeals39364 жыл бұрын
I have the original box with all of the inserts. I framed the poster and put it in my living room. People either have no clue what it is or have a negative opinion about the game. It’s nice to hear some one show it in a positive light.
@Colin124754 жыл бұрын
I loved meeting Cecil in Ebon Keep.
@FoobarMagnum4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Secret of Evermore is one of my favorites! I also really love the soundtrack. The elephant graveyard theme is so moody and ominous.
@7thangelad5864 жыл бұрын
I played through it about a year ago and had lots of fun! It was riddled with Easter eggs, and none delighted me more than the cameo of Cecil & Rosa from FFIV 😏 Love your reviews, Super Derek!
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Those were some really pleasant surprises!
@bradcook15374 жыл бұрын
If I had to make one complaint about SoE, it's the weapon system. The spear is usually always the best weapon, and weapon levels reset with each weapon, instead of each type of weapon. BUT! I love this game. Great review! Also, Turbo the dog returns!
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Turbo! Even named my new puppy after the legend. :) And I agree, I always stuck to the spear, and hated upgrading because of the weapon level thing. Luckily once you are able to fly, you can go kill a bunch of really weak enemies to level the weapons quickly.
@tephrosisOfficial3 жыл бұрын
I still have this SNES cartridge and played it a lot when I was younger. It was just me and my dad figuring out everything (without looking things up on the internet). I only 'discovered' the charged attacks after the first few bosses ... So I killed the first bosses with normal attacks only ... it did take a while, especially the one at the colosseum. Also something I did every time I got a new weapon: train it till max proficiency before advancing forward, I loved the grind. :D The music is awesome, the atmosphere is great. I had tears in my eyes when we beat the final boss, good times! The trading puzzle took me few playthroughs to figure out, just trial and error tbh. Anyway, great review!
@jellord4 жыл бұрын
I remember being disappointed as a kid that the second player could not control the dog.
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Apparently you weren't the only one. I hear there's a patch for it if you don't mind emulation
@PlatformJunkie4 жыл бұрын
Derek! Love your work and persona man. 👍🏼
@MC-pe2yq4 жыл бұрын
I played this game before playing Secret of Mana as a kid, and it gave me the impression that Mana was incomplete. We didn't have internet as a kid, so my opinion was made from just gameplay. The past couple weeks, I have been playing through Evermore with the 2-player patch mentioned by SNES drunk and it adds an aspect of gameplay that Evermore needed. Tons of fun, Evermore has aged well.
@williamgunderson30024 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this when it came out. I enjoyed it, but I was never really elitist when it came to RPGs during that age. 😁
@ThatFetcherFargoth3 жыл бұрын
The bit about Secret of Evermore using Secret of Mana's engine is incorrect. Square wouldn't let them for some reason, so Square USA made the game completely from scratch.
@SuperDerek3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people corrected me about that early on. Wish I could amend the video but KZfaq doesn't work that way. It's really impressive how well they were able to replicate functionality, and goes a long way toward explaining how the battle system was improved in some ways, but worse in others.
@Venoix4 жыл бұрын
I remember getting this game around the last couple of years of primary school. I put so much time into this game, and loved it a lot - despite that the hit box detection wasn't that great. I got stuck for a long time on that rat boss in the european castle area, as it always stun locked me with spells (maybe it was pay back for me doing it to bosses in Secret of Mana? Haha). I did eventually beat it, and the game, and haven't really found any game quite like it since. Thanks for bringing me back to the days of my youth with this review!
@japanimationman44424 жыл бұрын
Being a Sega kid growing up left a few holes in my RPG experience, and this is one of them. It definitely looks like a game worth trying out, if only for its uniqueness.
@markheying28303 жыл бұрын
Most of the time, I would usually try to get the following 8 Formulas to at least Level 6. 1: Nitro 2: Barrier 3: Fireball 4: Miracle Cure 5: Double Drain 6: Drain 7: Heal 8: Revive
@finaltheorygames17814 жыл бұрын
I came here because I just beat the game and wanted to finish the game before looking at any reviews. 1) When I booted up the game and read the names of the developers I was surprised to actually be able to read the names because they were American names. I was like....... this was made in the USA? WOW! 2) When I first played the game I only played it for like 10 mins and couldn't get into it. But I later gave it another shot and got hooked and then played the whole game until the end. So it was hard to get into. 3) After finishing the game I must say, this was a blast and was amazing. As a kid growing up I never played it, but as an adult with my SD2SNES flash cart I was able to enjoy this and get a wonderful experience. I highly recommend the game.
@Cloaked_Phantom4 жыл бұрын
So pumped to see a positive review! In my top 3 games of all time.
@Antiprogressivepraxis23 жыл бұрын
They really should patch a mod of this game with tougher enemies, more plentiful ingredients, and the ability for Player 2 to assume control of the dog. That'd be so sweet.
@deku8124 жыл бұрын
This is one game i'd like to see added to SNES online on Switch, it's a good ARPG that's widely misunderstood and underexposed.
@toolman47452 жыл бұрын
My brother and I bought it for the same reason a lot of kids did, we thought it was tied to Secret of Mana. But we never disliked it for being different. I remember loving the dog changing forms and the alchemy was cool
@musiczzlife94123 жыл бұрын
man - this game was one of my favs back in the days. i think it's a top 5 rpg for snes
@adreamingwolf2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite games of all time.
@brayoungful4 жыл бұрын
Quick fact: Secret of Evermore shares NO code with Secret of Mana. It was recreated entirely from scratch due to some Square US-Japan weirdness. As a result, it has some engine bugs that the Mana series doesn't have, and vice versa.
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
Wow, seriously? I can't believe they reinvented the wheel like that. Well that's super interesting, thanks for the info! :)
@@brayoungful o good someone showed him. thanks for linking that.
@8thLife4 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm jealous that you could rent video games at the grocery store. That would have made it so easy to rent one when I went out grocery shopping with my parents being that we were already there and it's a spot we would have reason to return to when the game needed be taken back!
@DesMondesBlut4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but SoE's magic-alchemy system is perhaps my favorite magic system in any JRPG/RPG I've ever encountered. As a child in the 90s I absolutely immersed myself in the system... getting rare ingredients to get the best spells and nuke the enemies.
@terabitez33743 жыл бұрын
I really wish this would would get remade it’s world I feel is just so cool and fun and the boy and his dog dynamic is also cool
@Dustinisnotavailable4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite RPGs ever. Some of the best game music even through the Playstation era. This is one of my top 5 snes games, no doubt.
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dustin. You should check out my new Secret of Evermore soundtrack remake. You might like it.
@robertoemanuelroman4 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek, to me you will always be the top RPG reviewer in youtube
@TheScrubNubb4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review as usual man!
@alexclaton4 жыл бұрын
Btw according to the devs it does NOT use manas engine. its engine was built from scratch and the reason it looks like mana is because they were instructed to basically copy the ui.
@LiveLongAndProsperHonestly3 жыл бұрын
My favorite SNES RPG next to SMRPG. I love this game so much.
@twistedimagev23 жыл бұрын
just picked up a copy for 30 bucks on ebay, got myself a great deal as they can sell for up to and even over 100$. i never got to beat the game as a kid, i think i rented it once or maybe borrowed it from a friend for a little while as i remember playing at least the beginning, but Im now really looking forward to playing thru it completely.
@PUR3H84 жыл бұрын
Played it for a while and then got stuck on the Roman era Colosseum boss. Didn't realise i have to hit him from behind... Overall, i found the game quite difficult, but really enjoyed the music and the setting. Props for the review.
@princeodd4 жыл бұрын
Good job! Always enjoy hearing your catch phrase.
@cowardlylion424 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if Nintendo put this up on Switch Online. I remember borrowing this from a friend. Took me awhile to beat but at least he was patient. It was challenging and I greatly appreciated the lack of bugs compared to the highly regarded Secret of Mana.
@andyblargextra Жыл бұрын
I grew up with Secret of Evermore and not Mana. This is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time.
@wasteoftime414 жыл бұрын
There is now a 2 player patch available. Makes the game much more fun.
@xxnike0629xx4 жыл бұрын
0:50 12:35 LOL That pose... #SuperDerekPose I remember your live streams of Secret of Evermore. I still think it's interesting that SquareSoft USA made this 1 game. 4:40 I never had that option. However, back when I was a kid and I had a SNES, I rented games from BlockBuster, Westcoast Video, and Hollywood Video. Those were the days... 5:18 Ah~ The good old days of dial up. That screeching modem sound and then to be greeted by AOL. "Welcome! You've Got Mail!" 🤣 5:28 聖剣伝説 3 (Seiken Densetsu 3) Good think we have the remake version on PS4 now. Now if they could do a remake for 聖剣伝説 1 (Seiken Densetu 1) on PS4. I mean couldn't they just port over Adventures of Mana (Vita) to PS4 with better graphics, added voice acting, etc? 5:32 #SikeKenDenSentZoo 🤣 Overall, I think between Secret of Evermore and Secret of Mana, I'd go with Secret of Mana 9 out of 10 times.
@Spiritcr1jsher2 жыл бұрын
This game really pushed the snes sound processors. The music was awesome
@StarlinkNova4 жыл бұрын
I always loved the music in Secret of Evermore. It's one of the games defining features. The game may not be on par with other RPG's from that era but I thought it was alright. Great review man!
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered2 жыл бұрын
You should check out my new Secret of Evermore soundtrack remake. You might like it.
@Pimpjira874 жыл бұрын
I do remember video game rentals at the grocery store but the one I knew that had them never went beyond NES games. And they were pricey compared to Blockbuster(and other local places) because never rented any from there. Or possibly because there was always some toy I wanted and I knew better than to ask for a toy and rent a game. lol As for Secret of Evermore it's one of those games I have interest in but who knows if I'll get around to it, so many games to play! I enjoyed the review.
@thecognitiverambler89114 жыл бұрын
12 year old me loved Secret of Evermore as much as 32 year old me does. In fact, younger me wouldn't have ranked it higher than secret of mana. But now, objectively I think I do.
@nekohel4 жыл бұрын
I never played Evermore as a kid because I had heard about it's difficulty compared to Secret of Mana. And, for 8 year old me, Mana was already way too hard (It took me forever to get past Spikey, and I didn't understand the importance of armor upgrades until several years later). Maybe it's time I pick up a copy of Evermore and give it a try...
@paulnewhouse51264 жыл бұрын
"turbo" ;) ppl who know who turbo is gets this!
@GodleyX4 жыл бұрын
The quintet dog?
@GreenTea-li4zg4 жыл бұрын
I might have missed you mentioning it, but I swear this game does actually have one major game breaking (or, well, save file ruining) bug. I think it's very specific conditions you'd need to actually run into it, but it exists. I at least remember reading a "DONT DO THIS!" section of Nintendo Power about it. Granted, SoM had its share of those, too. But if I remember right SoM's were more "if you do this your save file actually gets corrupted" and SoE's were "if you do this it becomes logically impossible to progress."
@rezterralico43694 жыл бұрын
Loved picking this title up when I was 15 in 2000 for 15 CAD from a video rental store selling old stock. Wish I had enough money to pick up secret of mana but since no digital drop of this title was happy to pick this sucker up. Got stuck on the last area for a bit never realizing I had to turn off the lights to the plant room.
@DaddyGamerReviews4 жыл бұрын
Dang, I almost picked this up a couple months ago and didn't... Now I wish I had! Great video!
@SuperDerek4 жыл бұрын
I think it's well worth a pickup. It's usually relatively inexpensive, and ports are unlikely. I don't think it's on any virtual console either.
@thomasharvey11512 жыл бұрын
I realize I’m a year late on commenting lol..but this game was and is a unique treasure. I really enjoyed the overall tone of the game, it was pretty engrossing and a pretty cool game world. I bought it when it initially released and I can’t say how many times I’ve completed it. I do think it’s sad that this game has never received any real recognition. I’d wager it’s really a forgotten game. But I’m hoping someday it’ll get released again on the switch or something.
@ladyloki100353 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this game, when I played it.
@MarkRushow4 жыл бұрын
I loved the game and it often inspires me. Though I don't have the patience these days to grind through it. But that is the same for many games.
@jameshitt32634 жыл бұрын
On my first playthrough of Earthbound about a year ago, I inexplicably named my character TURBO. (Thanks go to you for bringing Earthbound into my sphere, btw)
@meridian-child89084 жыл бұрын
Played this game for the first time some years ago and this was the first JRPG ever I got super frustrated with the dungeons. I played blindly without a guide and remember getting lost in this dark cave, in this area with the pipes or this ventilation system (if I am remembering correctly you were playing as the dog in this part). I also accidentally sold the item I got from the bazar, so I had to walk through the desert each time and that was just annoying as hell. I never finished the game. I remember playing for like almost an hour without a save and reaching a branching path. I did not know that one direction led to the boss, the other to a save point. I took the boss path and died and never tried again. The Gameplay of SoE does some things better than SoM. But it seems a lot of people make such a huge deal of the hit detection in SoM when it's actually not. You only have to avoid hitting the enemies the exact moment they get up after being hit and you will be fine. Hit them during this very small time frame (invincibility frame) and the game won't register your hit. There are few enemies with a super high evasion in SoM, but more than half of the enemies you will hit 100% of the time. I remember SoE also having enemies I could not hit at all (those birds?).
@crazyfool76852 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this released on limited run.
@acidbath32264 жыл бұрын
absolutley one of my fav. RPGs next to Chrono Trigger and FF6
@thomashays93324 жыл бұрын
Game is criminally underrated. Not to say its incredible, but it honestly doesn't get the praise it deserves.
@jayrobitaille24024 жыл бұрын
I mostly played Sega Genesis growing up, but a little later when I got a SNES in the last three years of the 90's and early 2000s, this was one of the first games I got for that system. The funny thing is I did not run into a hard copy of FFIV, FFVI or Chrono Trigger. Ironically, I bought the system to hunt for old classic RPGs I missed, but did not run into the most popular iconic games. I ended up getting the less conventional choices like 7th Saga, Breath of Fire I+II, Lufia II, Soul Blazer, etc.
@mrmatt55884 жыл бұрын
Dude love the review only difference from 12 yr old u and me is we were bt 8 or so me and my Bros had this game it was our first rpg ever and we loved it to death so the nostalgia runs high with this game I give u and A++ on the review man
@mrmatt55884 жыл бұрын
And further more not til my adult yrs have I get to try a mana game insane but I like em both even tho I haven't played much of mana
@ZeroFinalStrike4 жыл бұрын
I played this game a ton as a kid, but never got far with it. It was always one of those games I came back to time and again but always fell short within the first few hours, and unfortunately because of it's name and design I never bothered to try secret of mana as a kid thinking that the mana games would be like evermore.
@idontknowwhatimdoing65434 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this game is like a hidden gem for me and wish it had more love.
@Vezalin4 жыл бұрын
Good review. I greatly enjoyed this game a lot more than Secret of Mana mainly due to not being stun locked and that you could continue to move without the dog being right next to you. The trade market was really interesting but is one thing that turns me off when I think about replaying it. There is one game breaking thing you can do and I managed to do it the very first time I played the game. In one of the temples (Mayan?) if you go through it a specific way and save, you are forever stuck and have to restart the entire game. It was due to this that it took me three years to eventually return to the game and beat it.
@theflyingninja14 жыл бұрын
Martys hair reminds me of someone 🤔😉
@mikemurray86824 жыл бұрын
Your making me want to play this again
@NicktheLP4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I found your channel through HappyConsoleGamer and like your content! Also, why was game development a dead-end career path for you?
@TerminallyNerdy3 жыл бұрын
All I recall about this one....was a bazooka. And blasting enemies
@retrorevolutions45904 жыл бұрын
also the two player mod is pretty fun for this btw
@Andrew_TS4 жыл бұрын
I actually beat both Mana and Evermore back to back last year for the first time. I found Mana the far better game overall (unsurprisingly), but Evermore as way more memorable. Evermore being so unique helps. SCXCR had a great review/critique that I recommend, since it also tipped me off for some annoying glitches. It's a cool game with a lot of problems. Any fan of SNES RPGs should at least experience it.
@DopamineSink4 жыл бұрын
There is a game breaking bug in the dungeon area of the Gothic portion of the game. If you hit the incorrect switches, you will be unable to exit. If you save your games when this happens, your file is toast.
@miscalotastuff7334 жыл бұрын
Loved this game. Bought it and loved it.
@Ponaru4 жыл бұрын
The mazes...still have flashbacks...
@Jose04214 жыл бұрын
I really hope secret or evermore gets a remake along with Chrono trigger.
@vermilliondervish21724 жыл бұрын
this game should be on the snes online store
@kenalbus3 жыл бұрын
Back when I first played this (at age 13 or 14) I also thought it was a Secret of Mana ripoff. Luckily I played it anyway, and it ended up being one of my all time favorite RPGs.