Secret Strategy to Beat Aventurine with Free Characters | MoC 2.1 Floor 12

Secret Strategy to Beat Aventurine with Free Characters | MoC 2.1 Floor 12 | Honkai: Star Rail

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For this challenge, I will be using free characters (With Eidolons) + 4 star/Herta shop light cone
The strategy is to use Dr.Ratio's huge c... , just kidding
Retry: 261-105=156 (I was trying to brute forced the gamble, and I am glad I didn't win with RNG)
Eidolons are not free, this is for entertainment purposes
- Sushang - free from v1.3 event
- Pela - free from v1.4 selector
- Dr.Ratio - free from v1.6 to v2.1
- Guinaifen - free from v2.0 selector
- Hanya - free from v2.1 selector
- Lynx - from completing the pure fiction mode
E5 Lynx - Quid Pro Quo S5
E2 Yukong - Past and Future S5 (normally I don't use YK with QQ)
E6 Asta - Dance Dance Dance S4
E6 Qingque - Cosmos Fell S4
E6 Sushang - River Flows in Spring S4
E6 March 7th - Texture of Memories S5
E5 Pela - Resolution S5
E0 Dr.Ratio - Only Silent Remains S3
#honkaistarrail
#memoryofchaos
#崩坏星穹铁道
#drratio
#qingque
#danheng
#hanya
#march7th
#firemc
#herta
#asta
#lynx
#pela
#serval
#yukong
#guinaifen
#sushang
00:00 First half - Phase 1
02:30 First half - Phase 2
06:05 Second half - Phase 1
09:26 Second half - Phase 2
16:48 Boss guide/builds
BGM:
Fair Play · Penacony Battle Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.0 OST
• Fair Play · Penacony B...
Frozen March · Cocolia Boss Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 1.0 OST
• Frozen March · Cocolia...
Challenge to the Reader · Penacony Battle Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.0 OST
• Challenge to the Reade...
Aventurine of Stratagems · Boss Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.1 OST
• Hell Is Preferable to ...
Recorded with game bar
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@Helperishere 2 ай бұрын

I wanna take this moment to wish everyone a great relic farm tomorrow. I hope you all get 2 rolls into crit rate and 3 rolls into crit dmg on every piece for your Acheron while also getting high rolls for SPD on every single piece of gear for you supports.

@monothecamel 2 ай бұрын

I got defence percentage

@azure8433 2 ай бұрын

@@monothecamelRELATABLE 300% RATE UP

@asimplefanofmlp5234 2 ай бұрын

good luck you too

@Idk_My_Name 2 ай бұрын

Thx u i might need it as i spent all my luck on thelema in HI3

@Helperishere 2 ай бұрын

@@Idk_My_Name I'll send some extra luck your way. I'll sacrifice an Aurumaton in your name.

@Mag_ott 2 ай бұрын

3:12 its yukong A1 passive, when her buff is active and a character acts she gains 2 energy, didn't know quinque rerolls counted but thinking about it, it makes sense since they are an extra action

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! I see, very interesting synergy

@RuriGoko 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForeverconfirmed on this, qq draw counted as 1 action. So every draw is 2 energy for Yukong

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@RuriGoko Thanks mate for checking! 🥰

@maxdekudess3354 2 ай бұрын

@@RuriGokooh that's actually really nice to know

@Ronin8300 2 ай бұрын

Lol, maybe I'm an overgrown child. But I still can't help laughing at the "Doctor!, you're huugge!" reference.😂

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

🤣 same

@mukegumiim2837 2 ай бұрын

This is genuinely one of the best HSR channels and I thank youtube for recommending your videos to me every time you post. You're also the reason I keep trying MoC despite not having many characters in my account so kudos!

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! We learn and get better as a community 😉

@blueberrycrepes 2 ай бұрын

Huge Doctor. Hope this video gives me the relic luck I need for the 300% event They’re narrating aww I love that

@antonteo4063 2 ай бұрын

love the editing with qq and ratio narrating!! great showcase

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Thank! Try to make my showcase more enjoyable

@charastar_ 2 ай бұрын

THE DESCRIPTION 💀💀💀

@mememan7997 2 ай бұрын

“Dr.Ratio’s huge c..” im dead 💀💀💀

@KazukiSena 2 ай бұрын

Huge c-oncrete pillar of course

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

The strategy may apply to other two-phase bosses, but more testing need to be done to draw a conclusion. Lost so many times just to realize that we already had the answer. Hopefully this explains any question you may have when fighting Aventurine Succeeded case: - WyattSkyy kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8pifrKnxsjSgGQ.htmlsi=zFk-WEsrUZKrRVkf - Ruri Goko kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8dld9KD2866YHk.htmlsi=wBe9-seTK2dDYt8G - MVI kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aZ10faiEnJ-cZZc.htmlsi=akLv64LYb7A7om1I Failed case: - Wei (what a shame to do showcase like that) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odqlZKSdkt2bg4E.htmlsi=dVHpB4tSF67opgvD - Mocchi kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z6yglKSJv5nUXYE.htmlsi=8wdQAwxmBTGKa84O

@TheGeekyRedMage 2 ай бұрын

Some very smart plays and strategies here. This was a lot of fun to watch! Honestly, this shows why I enjoy the turn order mechanic this game has because of how you can deceptively manipulate it.

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Glad you had fun! 🥰

@Freakattaker Ай бұрын

I did it!!! With 22 cycles to spare too! Sry just need somewhere to let out my elation at succeeding lmao. Thank you for your upload!! Struggled for hours trying to figure out how to split my premium supports between JY and QQ, then spent more hours trying to figure out how to play hyper speed bronya with QQ and using the MoC buff; and kept failing on the 2nd half playing Gep sustain and finally tried M7 and she was INSANE!! with this MoC cycle's buff and for the clutch gamble wins + occasional freeze Went from having all of my party die with 18 cycles left on 2nd half to clearing at 22; really crazy how good M7 is when optimized for this cycle.

@WeiForever Ай бұрын

Congrats! 8 cycles clear is insane! And yes March 7th is surprisingly good with the recent buffs 👏 I would like to hear more successful clear story like this one 😉

@thinhngoc3341 2 ай бұрын

so useful and informative, lovit

@TheGeekyRedMage Ай бұрын

This is an old video but I wanted to comment to thank you for this guide. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to deal with the Aventurine boss fight with how often he does the gamble move for the second phase. Turns out Dr. Ratio and Sushang was the answer. aha Didn't get 3 stars (your Qingque does a pretty significant amount more dmg compare to mine), but this is the first time I cleared Floor 12, and with 2 stars to boot. I technically didn't do the Aventurine trick despite trying, but I wasn't going to 3 star because of the first half anyways so I just pushed through and relied on luckily getting March's freeze, Sushang's speed and Ratio's dmg to deal with the second half. Glad it's over because holy cow this boss. lmao

@WeiForever Ай бұрын

Very happy for you! Congrats on the clear! He is the hardest boss by far, glad the team works for you, QQ needs high investment and quite some retries. March is surprisingly good indeed

@paradozx 2 ай бұрын

Those follow ups from the gremlin, I swear I see one per battle if lucky.

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

The power of gremlin, I would say I can get a 3 cycles within 30 mins retry. I have done it 3 times, the problem was the second half

@oussamaalaoui9121 2 ай бұрын

You need to use her skill many times

@NewMega252 2 ай бұрын

Every time I see Yukong and March on teams it makes me wanna start working on them lol been trying to plan out a 2nd team with them and think I found a setup for it but it's hella cursed lol. Always great to watch your showcases to see unique ways of beating stages and also get to see units that not many others actually use

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Anytime! 😉I learned new things as well from the community

@UtaminoUta 2 ай бұрын

Ah lovely showcase as always 🥰

@yiyunzhuo5991 2 ай бұрын

Havent finished this video yet, but I used a similar team on first half and when Im watching you I thought, this is 100 percent a lucky run haha and because I had to reset a couple times to get 4 turns on first half. First few times i tried, qq just wouldn't get her FUA! Also happy to see the 'Day the cosmos fell' in use! i just upgraded it recently for Herta in PF and I used it on my QQ. Pretty solid 🎉

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Day the cosmos fell is a good investment! And for the first half, yes I had to do some retries on the FUA, at least for the first wave. The second half isn't matter that much because of MoC damage (45%, that's half of Cocolia's hp)

@Phiro00 2 ай бұрын

Amazing showcase!

@lol-ot7ng 2 ай бұрын

babe wake up weiforever just posted

@Mocchi- 2 ай бұрын

Uh oh! Upon watching this I learned I was one of the ones who didn't break Aventurine between his actions :O! I think it was because I was one cycle down so I didn't want to waste turbulence. this is very good knowledge to have though Mr. Wei, It's nice to see how much actions can change from pushing phases at different times 🤯

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Yes, same for my 4 star clear, we had a harder time and I didn't know why, I am sure we can do better with this concept in mind 😉

@SifuEdward 2 ай бұрын

God damn it. How impressive!

@charcoalmilk 2 ай бұрын

ended him with the power of HUGE C--halk

@maxdekudess3354 2 ай бұрын

The emotional support sushang is real 😂😂

@richardariate3036 2 ай бұрын

Your luck is insane on QQ's follow up attacks

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Truly

@latenter1428571 2 ай бұрын

And March's freezes too! I tried her couple of times with 70% EHR, she didn't freeze once so I gave up

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@latenter1428571 the first freeze in phase 1 is good to have, but the second freeze is not needed as you can see Aventurine still frozen at the end

@VDTT5 2 ай бұрын

@@latenter1428571 How´s that so, I have almost (less than you) EHR and mine freezes much.

@primarina 2 ай бұрын

her freeze is fixed at 65% @@latenter1428571

@harudesu2402 2 ай бұрын

dahek.. your lightcones are insane

@RPGWaldorf 2 ай бұрын

Incredible trick with phase 2 Aventurine! I hope I can pull it off eventually...

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Good luck! Practices make perfect 😉

@faeliya1423 2 ай бұрын

remembering his high Imaginary res, this is impressive

@Fawwaz_KZ657 Ай бұрын

That ratio team are clutch As always, never stop thinking

@rikito99 2 ай бұрын

What a power move to end battle with Dr Ratio huge C- chalk

@cloudy978 Ай бұрын

Damn I wish we got a free DDD. I looked at this to help my No pull account but I cant get some lightcones sadly. Still helped me get to floor 9 tho trying out these comps.so thanks !

@ctran1955 2 ай бұрын

i feel so smooth brain. i have decent teams and builds but i cant get 12 cleared in under 10 cycles. i cannot find any guides for moc, like there are for genshin abysses. i just want to even make sure im understanding the turbulence (i dont think i do, sometimes the stacks sits at 6 and does nothing? unless im misreading it) i think this video is interesting but entirely not feasible for me to follow personally.

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

This video may help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbCGnauEvLSXhJ8.htmlsi=zx1Aw7lvOE3dbYWF

@ctran1955 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever thank you for the rec! I didn’t find it that helpful since it just gives a broad overview and I think I need more help than that unfortunately. I’ve just been bashing my head against the wall hoping I’ll get lucky. I’ve been able to get to 19 cycles left and I’m so close but so far

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@ctran1955 me too when I did my run praying I get lucky on the gamble, but I was wrong. You will need to breakdown the moc to 4 parts (first half wave one/two, second half wave one/two), then you would need to think which part can be improved on. For example, I forced my first half wave one to finish in 1 cycle.

@nonnonnon120 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I will try it. Another 30 days should pass.😂

@mateomontali3876 2 ай бұрын

Both clears were clean af

@crerperv20 2 ай бұрын

That is insane! But I have a question, on the last bet, wouldn't it be better to use pela's ult before ratio's skill to maximize the probability of getting a follow up and making it possible to win the vet with ratio?. In the end it didn't make any difference, but just to know if there is a specific reason to do that way

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

you are right... I should do that for sure, but even losing the gamba is ok. And for some reason the dice would still show 60% when Dr.Ratio attacks, I am not sure if it's bug or what

@jurajojo2543 2 ай бұрын

I don't think you can apply debuffs to the dice, unfortunately. (Albeit channel owner says 60% when I'd expect 40% but I still haven't learnt Dr. Ratio's kit very well as a Daniel haver.)

@DerillPlays 2 ай бұрын

A video that I thought I don't need.

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

never say never😉

@kouseigi3448 2 ай бұрын

This just proves that I suck at the game lmao, even with 5 stars and sig lightcone I'm not able to 20 cycle it Great video!

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Practices make perfect 😉Hope it can help you clear it!

@kouseigi3448 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever Ok, lemme correct, I can 20 cycle, but My Fu Xuan always dies on first half lmao

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@kouseigi3448 That's good! Guard set on Fuxuan maybe? 😅

@kouseigi3448 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever already on it, 2 guard and 2 HP, thinking of maybe get her traces higher, she's on 8 but it seems I'll have to 10 them

@zubaedhossain4015 2 ай бұрын

@@kouseigi3448 since you already 20cycled it just focus on having your characters survive. Maybe two sustainers? Just chip away and dont worry about anything bit surviving.

@MinatozakiMiyawaki 2 ай бұрын

Consistent E4… how I wish my qq would😍

@rendrapahlevi2574 Ай бұрын

Cool calculation

@DiogoVKersting 2 ай бұрын

This MoC is kicking my ass. I've spent many hours on it, and the best I've done is 18 cycles.

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Good luck! Make sure to stack 6 times per cycle for 15% dmg

@Falcon36957 2 ай бұрын

New player here already beaten him on second try 🤩

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Very good! I am proud!

@throwaway4533 2 ай бұрын

Nice, to actually put to practice what you see👍

@crullydebtch1042 2 ай бұрын

I was a bit surprised that we almost have the same line up in second half. Pela, march, luka, dr. Ratio was my team, my luka is built as a BE unit so he deals good dmg to enemies with phys weakness, my only problem is i cant clear the first half fast enough

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I would say Luka break on the ascended one would be key, and make sure to trigger MoC buff, I used 2 cycles there as well with my team

@mesdeep_official Ай бұрын

First time clearing floor 11 and now this floor 12. Still too difficult, my Tingyun is just dying instantly even with 3k+ HP and 1200 def. These monsters are real mad in my Tingyun.

@DrakeKT 2 ай бұрын

I need some explanation here, we have the same builds on every single character with very similar stats, there's only 2 differences. My Sushang build it's an hybrid BE, 54 - 126 with 128 BE and my Dr. Ratio has 60 - 171 but with the quantum set. Now, this moc 12 it's pretty impossible for me, I ended up with 12-15 cycle and I tried with Ruan Mei, Kafka and black swan nothing. I really need help here because I can't figure it out wtf is happening to my dmg lol

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

For Sushang, mine has high spd which is easier for her to break. For Dr.Ratio, I would suggest 70+ crit without a crit rate lc. For first half, you would try not to get hit by the trash mobs, they push you back in the cycle. For second half, you need character that can win gamble Important thing is to hit at least 6 times per cycle, you can save your ult to the next cycle sometimes Team1: Dr.Ratio, Lynx/Gallagher, HMC, Guinaifen (4 cycle) Team2: Kafka, March7, B swan, Ruan Mei (5-6 cycle) Key would be Guinaifen ult on the trash mobs, March7 shield Kafka

@DrakeKT 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever Sounds good man I'll try, because I even made an attempt with your set up and the difference was insane. As I said, I can't even win with 15 cycle remain, I used Misha with Ruan Mei, Pela and March but it was useless and I don't understand why I don't deal dmg. Anyway, thanks for your tips! Oh and I have everyone with more than 140 spd just a couple of characters have 136 or 138

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@DrakeKT only take the ideas how I rotate/play my team and apply it to yours as we have diff investments (relics, traces, characters )

@danha3107 2 ай бұрын

just making sure i understand the guide, we need to finish phase 1 aventurine while he’s in the middle of his double action to delay the phase 2 gamble?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Correct, you have to do a killing blow between his actions, 15% from MoC is the most reliable one for me, you can plan ahead and activate it by using ult/counter attack

@jurajojo2543 2 ай бұрын

Idk if this matters or helps anyone, but I personally always tried to break the purple dino after it took its action. (Believing that it stays broken the longest that way)

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Yes, thanks for sharing! The purple Dino is quite hard to deal with

@chessterstone 2 ай бұрын

Wei, you’re huge!

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

🤣

@whatdadogdoin8417 2 ай бұрын

Guys i need help. Which eidolon should i get e1 welt, e2 bronya, e1 himeko, or e1 clara?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I think the best option is to wait, the only thing I know about them is e2 welt is good

@fish-ph Ай бұрын

@georgebeard2337 2 ай бұрын

Qingque survived dino with 69 hp. Sasuga Gamba girl

@samizukichiemon5236 Ай бұрын

Maybe i play this game wrong but I use QQ, sparkle, tingyun and lynx sec half with acheron, pela, SW but still cant clear (All support arnd 160 speed)

@WeiForever Ай бұрын

try to go for 4 cycles first half, make sure to use atk boots on QQ, also important to atk 6 times in a cycle, like I use Asta's ult at the beginning of a cycle. For second half, e2 Gallagher would be nice, also make sure to have 65+ ehr on Pela, 90+ ehr on SW? Use Pela's skill more often if you have her at e4, again you might want to save Gallagher's ult to stack MoC buff outside of the dice phase, try not to hit the dice with turbulence

@samizukichiemon5236 Ай бұрын

@@WeiForever wow I really play this game wrong. Thanks for the advice

@usuitakumi4210 2 ай бұрын

How do I do this with my Jingliu team ? JL, Sparkle 160, Pela and Natasha ?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

maybe replace Natasha with March 7th? you have Sparkle which mean you can use Pela and M7's skill very often

@usuitakumi4210 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever thank you ! I'll try that out

@slothion 2 ай бұрын

question, is there a reason why you dont use sushang skill on weakness broken enemies?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

During my retries, I noticed that Sushang will have her ult up by wave 2 with just basic atk. You are right, normally I would skill with Sushang for more energy

@Freakattaker 2 ай бұрын

Can I do this with hybrid or crit DPS Sushang? Or would you recommend I do break if I have relics for it?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Break for sure, she is extremely good with Silver wolf, Ryan Mei/Pela. Crit build would work too and she needs Tingyun, and it costs more to get the relics and traces up

@Freakattaker 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever I'm thinking of playing JY hyper on the First Half and Blade, Sushang, Pela, M7 on Second Half; I have a hybrid build on my Sushang rn so I should switch to any break pieces I can get right? I have Bronya, Sparkle, RM and dunno how to slot them so that I can clear this MoC rn Thanks for replying!

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@Freakattaker for first half, I would try JY, Sparkle/Tingyun, Ruan Mei, and Lynx. Second half may need some practices on breaking due to March’s counter

@brianpark2564 Ай бұрын

bro says unlucky but keeps getting autarky lol

@wobblestone3148 2 ай бұрын

God damn how is your QQ getting so many double throws Also at the end why is Lynx with break effect rope

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

It did take some retries to get 2-3 double throws for the shield breaking, break with Lynx can delay enemy even longer, it does seems like Lynx doesn't need energy rope so BE works too but not needed

@wobblestone3148 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever got it, I think er rope is better to keep team alive

@Weji514 2 ай бұрын

i gonna kms repetfully (i cleared in 8 cycles with full 5 star team) (only aventurin)

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I cleared it barely, it can go to 8 cycles easily

@arigatiu 2 ай бұрын

Why is Qingque so 😄

@rinavalentina1 2 ай бұрын

The number of retry must be around ............ ............

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I added to the description 😉

@cangkudugaming3977 2 ай бұрын

The hack dude e4 QQ always active 😂😂

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Got blessed by Kakavasha

@dubstepgs9784 2 ай бұрын

Does 4p Pioneer amount to more damage instead of 2p FUA with 2p Musketeer/DoT ?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Good question, I don't know either. It depends on the team, I would say Pioneer set is better by ~5%, not worth if you already have good 2+2

@itooruturosaki4834 2 ай бұрын

Wtf QQ 6 times win 40℅, bro so lucky 😂

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I got blessed by the aeon of gamble

@smole6562 2 ай бұрын

3k shield???????????????

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

4 piece def set gives extra shield 😉

@reincarnatedtobuildaharem 2 ай бұрын

So sushang was just there for the emergency phys break?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Yes, it's planned break with Sushang (Break damage + Bleed DoTs), it's great for enemy with a lot of HP

@reincarnatedtobuildaharem 2 ай бұрын

@@WeiForever smart actually, I just overpowered him with yanqing.

@WildSenpai 2 ай бұрын

I swear to God if this is another e6s5 4star run labeled as f2p idk what I'll do

@WildSenpai 2 ай бұрын

Would u look at that it's e6😂 love the f2p players who have e6 4 stars

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

check description ;)

@Lazermachi999 2 ай бұрын

Nobody said it was f2p

@WildSenpai 2 ай бұрын

@@Lazermachi999 "free characters" what would anyone in there right mind would think about beating it with free characters,PPL like u defending everything 😂

@Lazermachi999 2 ай бұрын

@@WildSenpai people like you be hating for no reason

@natanek5101 2 ай бұрын

The worst decision making and ult menagement I've ever seen, this was so hard to watch and you could do it way faster and easier and smarter

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Indeed ;)

@ForeverHobbit 2 ай бұрын

i don't understand why he only took 1 action tho

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

Short answer would be the game thinks he already went once and should only move 1 more time there

@kennethyoung7457 2 ай бұрын

He was interuptted by MOC dmg that took the first health bar to 0. March 7th followup attack activated MOC buff.

@ForeverHobbit 2 ай бұрын

@@kennethyoung7457 i see

@JR_Zart 2 ай бұрын

Skill issue on my behalf😂

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

play more is the key 😉

@lonewolf1928 2 ай бұрын

...why not just use Herta?

@blueberrycrepes 2 ай бұрын

Against a single target boss like Aventurine?

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

I tried, she performed similar to Dr. Ratio for Aventurine because no follow-up. Also Dr.Ratio is way faster for the IPC leader

@lonewolf1928 2 ай бұрын

why not just do Sus hypercarry then? i think Hanya was also free, but i might be trippin lmao

@WeiForever 2 ай бұрын

@@lonewolf1928 Sushang is more of a single target physical focused character, I would say it’s possible to work with the help of the turbulence dmg on the IPC. But my traces are lvl2 and lvl4