Security Guards LOSE IT After FAILING To Deescalate!

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Ай бұрын

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Original video: • Photographer Assaulted...
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Sources:
Tex. Occ. Code § 1702.232- bit.ly/3ICDBEw
Tex. Occ. Code § 1702.165- bit.ly/3TdbPnh
37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.82- bit.ly/3IzFPF0
37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.5- bit.ly/3wQlMzq
37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.10- bit.ly/4c8ijfH
State v. Sheppard- bit.ly/3IykV99
Michigan v. Summers- bit.ly/4acewfL
Hearsay- bit.ly/3wHcLsf
Navarette v. California- bit.ly/2Nzuo6W
Adams v. Williams- bit.ly/3itijxi
State v. Ford- bit.ly/43tzvZn
Austin PD General Orders- bit.ly/3wRh0Sj

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@natemarx4999 Ай бұрын

These security guards look exactly how you would expect them to look.

@RobertHallKoC3 Ай бұрын

you mean, fat, old, and unable to chase anyone?

@datorres67 Ай бұрын

The problem with authority without accountability.

@JustMe-fo4ev Ай бұрын

@@datorres67 I don't think that's what the original comment is saying lol

@AdakStillStands Ай бұрын

Yup. Retired, out-of-shape ex-cop with a lack of current understanding of the law.

@usagi32211 Ай бұрын

We had a security guard at my old job that had to be about 400 pounds. A coworker was robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot early one morning, and not only did it take him several minutes to get outside to help her, but he called his security company instead of 911 because he didn't know how to handle the situation. Whenever I see videos of officers like this one who couldn't control any situation without getting out of breath, I always remember that incident.

@thomasnunya9561 Ай бұрын

His biggest mistake was confronting the security guards, before reporting the assault to the police. Sometimes all that matters is who called the cops first.

@tgatt5759 29 күн бұрын

💯 He wouldn't have gotten the trespass either and the security would have been liable

@paulablack1863 27 күн бұрын

He went about EVERYTHING wrong that day... lolololololol

@leeclemens879 25 күн бұрын

but that's what a rational person would do. he clearly wanted confrontation with everyone.

@williamwatson8480 24 күн бұрын

@@leeclemens879 If you've ever been unjustifiably prepper sprayed (assaulted), not to mention damage to your personal property in the process, you would likely understand that the ability to be rational is severely diminished. I sincerely doubt you would be whistling Zip a Dee Doo Dah if this had happened to you.

@lillones 17 күн бұрын

So it was his mistake someone filed a false police report against him? Sounds like it was someone else's mistake for committing a crime while trying to cover up another crime

@midgesmoot1739 Ай бұрын

Whether he was in the right or not, this guy didn’t do himself any favors by flipping out.

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I think B- was a bit generous. I would have given him a D+, the cops a D-, and the security guards an F.

@8joeyt Ай бұрын

Have you ever been pepper sprayed???? Flipping out is pretty standard after that If you don’t know shit, shouldn’t say shit

@Youngbuck3888 Ай бұрын

He got assaulted, wouldn't you be pissed? Or would you sit in a corner and be quiet?

@TheBagOfHolding Ай бұрын

Really. A jury is made of people and they will not like him at all.

@Bosse_C Ай бұрын

@@Youngbuck3888i would call the police, from my corner

@ctaber2011 Ай бұрын

I work for PSC James Garfield was fired, so was the other officer on duty for lying to his superior.

@1SCme Ай бұрын

James acted like a cross between former LEO - wannabe cop - nothing guy (laughably) trying to convert a mall cop badge into respect and a license to bully/assault (not gonna happen). He should have tried to file changes and filed a suit against the mall/James. The other guard mimicked the actions a LEO takes when he throws up the blue wall to protect another LEO - he looked like he knew the other guard went over the line, but is going to protect him anyway. He should have lost his job just for being stupid enough to do this.

@icecold9511 Ай бұрын

I would strongly suggest publically discussing this stuff on the internet can end your job.

@1SCme Ай бұрын

@@icecold9511 Doubtful.

@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 Ай бұрын

Yeah and working at another lame security company, psc sucks

@ZyferWarriorPrime Ай бұрын

@@icecold9511Nah, anyone can make this claim on the internet. This person doesn't work for the company.

@thenicker5110 Ай бұрын

Dude should've never confronted the idiot security guards and instead called the police to report the assault.

@sprinkz6187 Ай бұрын

Never call the police when you have a problem, because when they turn up you'll have two problems

@kiddalingur Ай бұрын

Also he should not have started by screaming at the cop Give me your name and badge number right of the bat, he could have been polite to them and probably would not have been put in cuffs

@992turbos Ай бұрын

@@kiddalingur yeah taking a few deep breaths would have changed his entire universe

@davefimple8303 Ай бұрын

Screaming at the police as soon as the car door opened is the wrong way to start off. He thinks he’s above the law just like the stupid security guards do.

@keithomilak3693 Ай бұрын

Yeah, providing an account of the situation before the cops got there likely would've set a better tone for the encounter. I can agree with the cops grade, but I think 'auditor' should've had a matching grade for his demeanor, incorrect citing of detention v arrest, when a detention is justified, and failure to know his state's LEO identification policy

@TRC296 Ай бұрын

Having the beginning of the encounter would’ve made a drastic difference.

@johnjames7289 Ай бұрын

It's on the stores camera so he'll be good

@robertstone9988 Ай бұрын

@@johnjames7289 if he's being honest. None of us really know if he really got sprayed or if so why or how. I have seen a person spray a person and get every one in the room including them selfs.

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

There are always three sides to a story.

@stargazer6130 Ай бұрын

*themselves @@robertstone9988

@tythedetailer3650 Ай бұрын

It's a good thing that we know how to use common sense

@dylanrieck6671 Ай бұрын

I appreciate how this channel seemingly objectively will call out both auditors and LEOs for misunderstanding/violating the law. thanks!

@Ninja_Gaijin 8 күн бұрын

however this guy wasn't an auditor, hence why he got more things wrong than you'd hope an auditor would. Literally just a photography / journalism guy, not an auditor 'doing journalism', although I realise this would be hard to realise. I only figured it out because ATA mentioned he is not an auditor, before then I was unsure if the victim's statement was true when he said that he was studying fine arts (presumably photography). I thought this might have been the usual 'auditor journalism' response but he might just be using journalism as an easier term to use in regards to his photography than fine art. Maybe his course falls under the 'fine art photography' name but he is in fact doing it for an in-roads into journalist photography.

@jeeseajoneson4727 Ай бұрын

I worked in security for 2.5 year in oklahoma. Company never gave me or my 4 coworkers any formal training, glad i was never dumb enough to assault anyone, and lucky enough to never needed contact with leo's while working since i had no guard card

@Barbarian5150 28 күн бұрын

In Texas that's a class a misdemeanor and a $4000 fine.

@travr6 Ай бұрын

He might be correct but he's horrible and annoying.

@frankrosemeck9898 Ай бұрын

He's not even correct in at least half of his statements. Annoying is an understatement.

@lwo7736 Ай бұрын

Yep, you can be within your rights, and also be an unlikeable idiot

@travr6 Ай бұрын

@@frankrosemeck9898 I meant correct in that he shouldn't have been approached or sprayed.

@agentrex_adventures Ай бұрын

They usually are.

@travr6 Ай бұрын

@agentrex_adventures Generally, the police start it, so i understand returning in kind.

@Spoteddy Ай бұрын

"private security" "Youre a public servant" Does he not know the difference between private and public?

@joaquinbaca1880 Ай бұрын

In tex they are public servants

@paulstejskal Ай бұрын

@@joaquinbaca1880eh?? How does that work? Security guards aren’t employed by a government but a private employ.

@KazeShikamaru Ай бұрын

That's different. @@paulstejskal

@paulstejskal Ай бұрын

Nevermind I didn’t watch the whole video yet

@rnash-shannon9304 Ай бұрын

@@joaquinbaca1880 How? Just because they have a state issued license, does not mean they work for the state. The company name is in the video.

@notoverlyacerbic9574 Ай бұрын

How you treat people matters. You can stand up for your rights and be nice at the same time. And not for nothing. The more anger involved,the more likely it is to devolve into a competition,with nobody willing to shift their stance because they don't want to lose.. It is the difference between "name and badge number!" and "hey man,can i get your name and badge number?" It's the same question,except one is oozing with contempt. Again,it is about getting the change we all want. The government is a bureaucratic,unyielding,emotionless,detached nightmare but it is comprised of people. And people can sometimes be reasoned with but if they hate you they are more likely to continue down an illogical path because we are an emotional species..

@ericenfield2193 Ай бұрын

I agree - generally you get what you give.

@valentinius62 29 күн бұрын

I've seen too many cops and gov't functionaries being asked nicely with sugar on top and blatantly refusing to do identify themselves anyway to believe all that. They really do need to be cussed at. They also accuse Citizens of threatening them for mere criticism, or holding a camera (always "in my face") and try to get them shut down or locked up. Eff 'em.

@The1before 9 күн бұрын

Sounds pussC to me

@ZomegJ Ай бұрын

Him and the security guards all 3 of them were idiots 😂😂

@1milliondogs Ай бұрын

Generally, as a rule, I've learned throughout my life that any company or organisation with the word 'professional' in the name, is compensating for something.

@andrewogden1480 Ай бұрын

Professional Engineers (PE) everywhere would disagree

@1milliondogs Ай бұрын

@@andrewogden1480 As a professional engineer, I disagree with your disagreement. 😂😂

@jimdouglas4387 Ай бұрын

I agree and any company with integrity in its name is a joke

@J-Anon- Ай бұрын

@@1milliondogs I know what PE means, but if someone was introduced as "Engineering Professional" I'd assume that's a technician.

@ericerto8250 Ай бұрын

That's very true in most cases. Like when you see a wrench at Walmart it says professional on it 😂

@JustJoe864 Ай бұрын

The cops definitely detained this man far too long, but him being super emotional doesn’t help things. He needs to pick and choose his battles and save the war for the courtroom.

@Shishiku91 Ай бұрын

how many times in your life been pepper sprayed in the face by Paul Bart and then had to put up with low iq jerry from the local PD America is #1 incarcerated for a reason...ppl try to pick and choose in a courtroom instead of spilling someones head all over a sidewalk and calling it a day.

@susanh1447 Ай бұрын

I was wondering, what was he doing out there in the first place?

@coldkill207 Ай бұрын

I mean getting assaulted with pepper spray and then the cops showing up ready to draw on you then threaten to take you to the ground and detain you for a truly unreasonable amount of time after they're aware of all facts just because they can is a bit upsetting and I don't blame him for his attitude. Could he have acted better? sure, but literally having the cops gang up on you after you got assaulted is ridiculous.

@CheddahSlammer Ай бұрын

@@coldkill207 Its because security guards called it in that they were in danger with his weapons so close in his bag. Police showed up thinking it was a worse situation then it actually was.

@coldkill207 Ай бұрын

@@CheddahSlammer and like I said, kept him detained after they had all the facts... it goes from reasonable to unreasonable real quick. My comment is more on the fact that I understand why he is upset and it's hard to control your emotions when you got assaulted and held against your will until a supervisor shows up. As for weapons, as far as I can tell he never reached, brandished or threatened anyone with them so why does it matter? They only added that information to escalate the call.

@simplysaying7235 Ай бұрын

What about the security guards false informing? Stating he threatened to stab people? Cops should have given those clowns a TON of grief !!!

@edogriff 27 күн бұрын

Is there a video before this that none of us have seen or are you assuming?

@brentfu1119 Ай бұрын

There's something unsettling about this guy.

@kathryncumberland Ай бұрын

Yeah, he is *_super_* annoying!!!

@JakeStrange66 Ай бұрын

He sounds like he's watched way too many of those "first amendment" fr-auditor videos & believed everything the "frauditors" said, because was totally wrong about...well, everything i think, & did the "I'm a jernalist" thing they always do. 😂😂😂😂

@cdahmke11 Ай бұрын

He's a karen

@troy_opal2054 Ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@JakeStrange66bro what do you mean by „those ”first amendment” fr-auditors”. While the man is indeed annoying, it has nothing to do with auditors making sure „first amendment” (apparently it’s such a foreign concept to you used quotation marks - I feel sorry for you). Aforementioned man clearly doesn’t understand his rights, that’s the issue. This channel is literally dedicated to auditors, maybe go troll another YT comment section

@JakeStrange66 Ай бұрын

@@troy_opal2054 he doesn't understand his rights. Exactly. Just like the "first amendment" frauditors.

@PraetorExtremo Ай бұрын

Oh man. It’s an early morning and “James James” was enough to get me good 😂

@azalea_k Ай бұрын

seemed legit 🤔

@JustMe-fo4ev Ай бұрын

lol James Squared

@Knight_Astolfo Ай бұрын

tbf I knew a James Jameson growing up. Also, guess what his dad's name was?

@BlackFaithProduction 29 күн бұрын

“You back up!” sent me away lol. 1:22

@azalea_k 29 күн бұрын

@@Knight_Astolfo Yeah, Mastermind quiz show in the UK used to be hosted by Magnus Magnusson. You expect that from nordic names though.

@arh9068 Ай бұрын

If those security guards called the police & claimed the cameraman tried to stab them, then that is a false claim and is illegal.

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

The call is on video. They said that he has weapons like the scissors and said he kept following them. This was true!

@glintinggold Ай бұрын

@@seeya205 ...and irrelevant

@dannyfergusson3243 Ай бұрын

@@glintinggoldhow is that irrelevant. If he actually has scissors he is a present potential danger

@mikebaker6288 29 күн бұрын

@@dannyfergusson3243 Scissors are not inherently dangerous most of the time... unless you 'run with them'... The guy in this video is a straight-up KAREN. Security guards seem like buffoons, too. But the guy is obviously his own worst, uninformed enemy. And the way he jumped in the first cop's face demanding 'NAME AND BADGE NUMBER!' made him look really stupid. Every time his opened his yap, he stuck his foot in. No sympathy from me. He's neither a 'journalist' nor an 'auditor'. He's just an loud-mouthed imbecile.

@wolfmordhau4267 29 күн бұрын

@@dannyfergusson3243 People carry scissors and knives for practical applications. It also never seemed like he made a move or gesture that would indicate he would use them otherwise. The two clowns just wanted to make the call "spicier" for optics. They knew they were in the wrong and didn't care if they put the cameraman's life in danger. Their $12/hr worth more than someone's life. Disgusting.

@user-om6xz5uq7l 24 күн бұрын

LoL....its funny how the short stubby guard is holding the tear gas canister. 😂😂

@Ninja_Gaijin 8 күн бұрын

I think that was more pepper spray at the ready. he was going to spray him again potentially.

@Tomhudnall2003 Ай бұрын

I wonder if the suspect is watching this yelling at the screen.

@geo-george2639 Ай бұрын

LOL!

@ukusanz 29 күн бұрын

I’d say he’s probably smashed the screen

@joearnold5836 29 күн бұрын

Best comment here!

@Brent_Mosey Ай бұрын

His behavior makes it really difficult for me have sympathy for him.

@mynightmare3798 Ай бұрын

True, but It's a good thing your rights aren't dependent on someone else's sympathy for you.

@The_GrumpyGills Ай бұрын

@@mynightmare3798 he made demands that were inconsistent with our civil rights numerous times.

@NitroDubzzz Ай бұрын

@The_GrumpyGillhe he forgot to print out his sovereign citizen bingo sheet to pull out at the slightest confrontation

@captainforrix956 Ай бұрын

It's easy to defend your rights and not escalate the problems

@Brent_Mosey Ай бұрын

@@NitroDubzzz Somebody is familiar with Chile Decastro. :) Are you a Gunnar fan too? :)

@markthervguy Ай бұрын

Remaining calm and professional demeanor will always serves you best. Be deliberate but be polite.

@SpencerfromEarth Ай бұрын

Good luck being calm and polite after being pepper sprayed

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

@@SpencerfromEarth He probably was aggressive and that's why he got pepper sprayed.

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

Absolutely! Cops always need to remain calm and professional. If not, then they aren't cut-out for police work.

@markthervguy Ай бұрын

@@SpencerfromEarth I’ve done it. It didn’t work out the way the fella thought it would for him.

@NitroDubzzz Ай бұрын

Not when you're trying to harvest tax payer money

@CentPacRR Ай бұрын

Instead of confronting the Security guard who pepper sprayed him, Mr. Stone should have himself called 911 and reported the assault to police and ask that they respond and arrest the perpetrators.😊

@lechkenassh9008 15 күн бұрын

that security guard should be in jail for false allegations !!! leading to the guy being cuffed and his freedom taken away from him !!!

@StarrTile Ай бұрын

This guy needs to go to the Long Island Audit School of decorum 🤦🏻‍♂️

@glintinggold Ай бұрын

HE'S NOT AN AUDITOR

@TheBagOfHolding Ай бұрын

He is probably special needs.

@NitroDubzzz Ай бұрын

@glintinggold oh yes he is and he's representing all of you right now

@TheBagOfHolding Ай бұрын

@@glintinggold he is the best one.

@AustinThinker79 Ай бұрын

@@glintinggoldumm he clearly is.

@JulieL96 Ай бұрын

B- for combative, aggressive demeanor and not knowing any legalities? He handled everything wrong.

@The_GrumpyGills Ай бұрын

Yeah this is one of the worst auditors I have ever seen. Hurts the credibility of the channel to grade him higher than a D imo

@corgi42069 Ай бұрын

I would give him an F. He didn't do a single thing right.

@RageMojo Ай бұрын

What the fck does demeanor have to do with anything? We dont owe pigs love and flowers.

@KrowShow. Ай бұрын

Audit the Audit does a good job on his channel of finding/explaining the laws, but he has a clear bias against law enforcement in his videos, while favoring frauditors.

@TheKyfe Ай бұрын

I believe he got the B- because he's not an auditor, just some random guy. He states it at the end of his grade.

@ThatguyPurps Ай бұрын

Being legally arrested or being arrested are different in their legal standing, but the physical experience is much the same. If an officer has stopped you and you're not free to leave, you've been detained, once they handcuff you, you are restrained and arrested. Why can't the court see that?

@arthurhouston3 Ай бұрын

He does not have to ID to fill a complaint on the security officers or sue the property owners, cops, depts and tax payers.

@TheClonetruper Ай бұрын

You do need to ID yourself in order to sue. How else would anyone be able to properly claim something happened. Also you can’t sue someone without saying who you are.

@Rocketman9mm Ай бұрын

Kind of hard for the cops to de-escalate when this guy is popping off rage-screaming the entire time while they're talking to him calmly and he wont' calm down.

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

Maybe, but if the cops had been less hostile to him & more skeptical to the security guards, there might have at least been a chance

@T1HG_Gmo Ай бұрын

@@architeuthis3476security guards in tx are public servants and they called saying the guy was combative so the cops did what they are supposed to do

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

@@T1HG_Gmo Wrong. If yoo want to say there was reason for the cops to handcuff that guy & hold onto his weapons, there may be some argument there, but he had been assaulted by the security guards who were armed with the weapons they assaulted him with (and the cops WERE informed of this), but the cops neither handcuffed them nor confiscated their weapons. The security guards were at least as much of a threat as he was - if not more - yet they were treated better than he was.

@zuxzux Ай бұрын

@@architeuthis3476This moron aggressively approached the first officer screaming at him and continued to scream the entire encounter. I hate piece of shit auditors like this.

@HotMonkeyDik Ай бұрын

@@architeuthis3476also its always bullshit when someone is surrounded by armed police, and they are like "we fear for our safety" so they gotta raise take extra annoying steps.

@Mister-Mike Ай бұрын

Private Security is not a Public Servant.

@theb.s.d.4707 Ай бұрын

In the state of Texas they are. The law states we are acting as public servants and an assault on a public servant is committed when you assault a security officer. Many places play fast and lose with the laws and it makes it difficult for those of us trying to hold to a higher standard.

@mandoguy726 Ай бұрын

Public servants are not public servants either.

@JustMe-fo4ev Ай бұрын

@@theb.s.d.4707 That's interesting. I assumed the same as OP but I looked this up after your comment and read more about it. Pretty weird how they handle it in Texas, imo - it seems like private security is also restricted a lot even though they're called officers. Lots of downside risk there.

@shroompicn-shrooman Ай бұрын

Cops take away this guy's weapons for "their safety" why if the security guard is involved in the disturbance. Didn't they take the security guards weapons too ?

@lizcollinson2692 Ай бұрын

Keeping up this cuffs detention as long as they did was antagonistic. Showing a two tier treatment.

@Johnny_C137 27 күн бұрын

Handcuffs don't mean arrest, but if you are searched and your property seized in conjunction with your detainment in handcuffs, it may be a defacto arrest.

@anthonnybrownnn9760 Ай бұрын

"Security guard lose it." He should be sack100% agree.

@thesuperdingos Ай бұрын

That one security guard should be working as a mall Santa Claus. They really do just hire whoever.

@Ralof_McSkooma Ай бұрын

As someone who's a janitor at a mall, they really do, most of them are either old or overweight.

@voodoomancer5183 Ай бұрын

I've worked security for Allied Universal. They will literally sit down through the security test and talk to some people like they are 5 year olds to ensure they pass. Most of them dont fully understand how limited their authority really is. At most you are an agent of the property. Other than that, you're just a normal civilian.

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

They don't need to be in shape to do their job. Many big cops as well and I would argue that they need to be physically fit to do their job.

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

No, I don't want him pepper-spraying kids (and whoever else)

@austinwinston684 Ай бұрын

You want that violent psycho around kids!?

@mikeevans1912 Ай бұрын

Waited all weekend for this. Y'all have a great Monday!

@tomduckworth6430 Ай бұрын

Monday morning tradition.

@Bosse_C Ай бұрын

i only now realize there is a rhythm to this channels uploads… Thank you

@ManeatingSandwich Ай бұрын

You know they kept him in handcuffs as punishment for not licking the boot

@Super-cb3ic Ай бұрын

Truth

@nodekapunk Ай бұрын

Or maybe the fact he was a complete asshole the entire encounter. Not saying the cops were right, but the guy seems like a terrible person to even be around

@valentinius62 29 күн бұрын

@@nodekapunkIf people were put in cuffs for being what you say he is, half the country would be in jail. But, we have this thing called "The Bill of Rights". Sorry.

@friedpotatoesa1083 28 күн бұрын

@@nodekapunk if the cops weren't right they weren't right, being an ass does negate your rights.

@SiriusMined Ай бұрын

Once they took his weapon away, their reason for holding him in cuffs *that they stated* was no longer valid...

@sharekabeckham6721 Ай бұрын

The security guard looking like security,but doing the right thing is another thing.

@johnchristopher5733 Ай бұрын

Security guards are somehow getting stupider.

@brianhillis3701 Ай бұрын

Not really. I learned of a nuclear bomb (less trigger) was found in a farmers barn. A whole bunch of security guards messed up big time!!!

@frankrosemeck9898 Ай бұрын

As are "auditors."

@rogusmith2630 Ай бұрын

I mean its already extremely easy to be a cop as it is Id imagine being security guard is a walk in the park

@derekthornton3692 Ай бұрын

How were they supposed to handle that? They remained calm and called the police. What should they have done in your opinion?

@vn0m427 29 күн бұрын

It never ceases to amaze me how people can so boldly and confidently state something they are so very wrong about, yes cops can cuff you while you are detained.

@Outnumberedbykidsandcats 12 күн бұрын

The cop leaping out and being aggressive is a direct reaction to the security guard calling up and saying that he has weapons. That immediately puts the situation into something it shouldn’t be. The people who called need to be fined for that because that’s the only way to try to show people they can’t just say what they want to 911.

@AirborneAudits Ай бұрын

2001 United States vs Valadez, 5th Circuit - The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which includes Texas, held that “once an officer's suspicions have been verified or dispelled, the detention MUST end unless there is additional articulable, reasonable suspicion.” “Further detention was NOT lawful after the point at which the purposes of the stop was resolved.”

@CynthiaSmith-iu4ev 22 күн бұрын

Nice one 😅

@thelogicalcaveman9139 Ай бұрын

A security guard isn’t a public servant.

@Del_S Ай бұрын

Everything's dumber in Texas

@valentinius62 29 күн бұрын

Most "public servants" refuse to identify themselves, so what difference does it make.

@LibertyPrime1982 23 күн бұрын

@@Del_Swhat shithole state are you from, Jack?

@ThomasPaine223 Ай бұрын

Security officers must present an active guard card when asked.

@AmericanNinja85 Ай бұрын

No they don't. Not just to random citizen. To their superiors or to law enforcement but if a random citizen asks they don't have to show anything

@LibertyPrime1982 23 күн бұрын

Looks like you didn't see the video chud

@peppersgc Ай бұрын

I still don't understand how not verbally identifying themselves isn't a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

@thedaily30 Ай бұрын

“James what?” “James… errr… James!” More brilliant people abusing perceived authority 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

@skapunkoialternativeliving6522 Ай бұрын

This is why it's good to always know your rights.

@portabull749 Ай бұрын

What are you on about? He was on private property. Your bill of rights is only for the government. Did you even graduate high school?

@Super-cb3ic Ай бұрын

Truth! Don't listen to the guy above ...even on private property we have rights lol . Portable ate to many crayons 😂

@portabull749 Ай бұрын

@@Super-cb3ic you didn’t even pass English 1. There’s no way you even walked into a civics class. Go serve a hamburger, your clients are waiting.

@JamieMills-re5th Ай бұрын

Tf does being on private property have anything to do with anything? Do you're rights somehow magically disappear on private property? Obviously knowing your rights is relevant when interacting with police. Why does anyone need to explain this?

@skapunkoialternativeliving6522 Ай бұрын

@@JamieMills-re5th You took some nonsense. I already know all that. The thing is, do you know it?

@archstanton5603 Ай бұрын

Accepting he'd just been pepper-sprayed (therefore upset & agitated) it would have probably been more advisable to have called the Police and EMS rather than confront the security guards directly.

@BLACKHEAT1028 Ай бұрын

Why didn't they put the security guy in cuffs until they figure out what is goin on, it should be both parties not just one

@Figgy20000 Ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? Cop was standing there patiently for a good 3 seconds with this lunatic approaching him before he decided to cuff him. When you have this shitty attitude towards everyone in your life you reap what you sow. Officer probably would have just talked to him politely if he wasn't scream shouted at and hostily appraoched the second he arrived.

@valentinius62 29 күн бұрын

Read most of the comments here. There's your answer.

@sydnidowney3598 Ай бұрын

HOW ABOUT A GRADE FOR THE SECURITY GUARDS.

@architeuthis3476 Ай бұрын

@SacredOwl Ай бұрын

@pio1483 Ай бұрын

Both obese, immediate F

@fuzz6938 Ай бұрын

@SacredOwl 29 күн бұрын

@@fuzz6938 F

@paulwitherspoon2358 Ай бұрын

Sometimes you make your own trouble. Dude was agitated and had a weapon, handcuffs were appropriate until he calmed down for the safety of the officers.

@alexursus4719 Ай бұрын

Officer safety is bs, if you are afraid of people you should quit the police and go live in the mountains, away from civilization

@dannyfergusson3243 Ай бұрын

Its so funny how the entire community becomes blue pro when they see policing done right yet they claim we hate police by default

@darylmixan8170 5 күн бұрын

Security guards are sweeet! I remember doing volunteer and lowpay security in my 20's...zero training, just I.D. checks, crowd control, and keep your eyes open etc... I remember the authority I thought I had... I thought I had to represent the owner or organizer... I never had any issues, but I know I probably would have trampled on people's rights, unknowingly, in a situation. Its crazy to think how very very little we are ever taught about our Rights growing up... You were always taught to comply with law enforcement and people in power.

@robertgantry2118 Ай бұрын

"Arrested". Government *loves* to re-define words.

@tomrowland6141 Ай бұрын

The videographer thinks private security guards are public servants? He needs more correct information.

@T1HG_Gmo Ай бұрын

They are in Texas

@glintinggold Ай бұрын

Maybe do a little research before you spout incorrect things

@robv5834 Ай бұрын

@@T1HG_Gmowrong, they are regulated by DPS. Regulation doesn’t make them public servants or employees. DPS regulates my drivers license also, so am I now a public servant? 😂

@valentinius62 29 күн бұрын

@@robv5834True. Just makes everyone who wants to drive a Subject.

@robv5834 29 күн бұрын

@@valentinius62 a subject? A subject of what?

@michaelal20 Ай бұрын

This video only shows the “auditor” being loud and annoying but the title promised me a security officer losing it.

@theb.s.d.4707 Ай бұрын

He didnthe moment he used chemical agents and didn't move to provide medical aid. They are less lethal not nonlethal. Several cases have been cited where people have died from the after effects of chemical agents.

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

@@theb.s.d.4707 You don't know if the photographer deserved it because we didn't see the initial interaction. By his aggressive demeanor, I think he probably did deserve it. Everyone was clam but him.

@fingers900 Ай бұрын

@seeya205 i dont think id be calm after getting pepper sprayed

@JustMe-fo4ev Ай бұрын

@@fingers900 True but even when the guy told his own version to the cops, he basically said he just randomly intervened in something that wasn't his business and then got aggressive and walked up on security. So if that's his version where he's probably trying to make himself look good...

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

@@fingers900 I bet he was even more aggressive to the security. He admitted to being aggressive with them when he got sprayed.

@goodolbrad3 Ай бұрын

If after learning the security guards lied about him, the subject had chosen to calmly explain to officers that it wasn't true, and be wished to press charges as HE is the true complainant here, he probably would have been released much sooner and the outcome would have been different. I hope to hear an update that the security guard was charged. You can't pepper spray someone just for having an attitude.

@joegug4751 Ай бұрын

All the dude did was give me a headache.

@glintinggold Ай бұрын

He had OC in his eyes, so I'm sure he wasn't at his Sunday best, Joe

@sethgriffin763 Ай бұрын

Security Guards are private right?

@Eidolon1andOnly Ай бұрын

Yes, not "public servants" like dude claimed.

@T1HG_Gmo Ай бұрын

@@Eidolon1andOnlyin Texas they are

@glintinggold Ай бұрын

not in Texas.

@robv5834 Ай бұрын

@@T1HG_Gmowrong. They are regulated by the DPS. Regulation doesn’t make them public servants.

@BDoggy45 22 күн бұрын

That's what I was looking for, "disrespectful but protected speech"

@jakehix8132 8 күн бұрын

The guy stating he's under arrest because his wrists are literally arrested by cuffs is some damn hillbilly lawyer logic, and I'm here for it!

@mikecrain2076 Ай бұрын

People like this are the problem. The cops never once got hostile with this guy and as soon as they got there he started to get all hot at them. And then he uses their reaction to his anger to justify that anger

@Youngbuck3888 Ай бұрын

The cops yelled at him the second they arrived. Did we watch the same video?

@jeffcuzzort4399 Ай бұрын

They were called for a disturbance and the cop got out of his car immediately demanding compliance from the victim. No investigation, not one question, nothing. Just immediately assumed because the security guys called the man with the camera must be at fault.

@mikecrain2076 Ай бұрын

@jeffcuzzort4399 they were called for a disturbance with a guy with weapons, and the caller implied that he may have been attempting to use them. The cops had no way to know the caller was exaggerating. The cop acted appropriately and the guy refused to calm down long enough to explain what had happened

@mikedougherty2243 Ай бұрын

@@mikecrain2076 The cop was aggressive from the time he got out of the car. The proper way for the cop to act when he arrived is to introduce himself and let the guy know that a call came in that he had a weapon and once he secured the weapon then start an investigation. Now if the guy then got aggressive and refused a weapons search, then that would’ve been an appropriate response by the cop.

@mikecrain2076 Ай бұрын

@mikedougherty2243 that's just not true. The caller implied that he attempted to use the weapon. At that point tge cop has to treat him as a suspect with a deadly weapon. And the first interaction is the suspect walking up to him in an aggressive manner and yelling at him.

@brianshaw373 Ай бұрын

It’s a crying shame that these security guards are considered credible informants.

@brianhillis3701 Ай бұрын

They lied about several things. Need to watch the original video. This was so edited that it didn't even look like what really happened. AtA gets an F.

@EdwardGatey Ай бұрын

Observe and report ... no security guard needs any weapon.

@P455w0rds Ай бұрын

Logically handcuffing someone does mean "arrest". No matter time was/were put on the detained individual.

@TheClonetruper Ай бұрын

The definition of arrest contains the verbiage “take into custody”. He was never transported nor booked. So never arrested.

@MoivinSulunker 29 күн бұрын

a forcible stoppin of a suspected person.

@garfieldcouch4443 Ай бұрын

Have a nice work week y'all.

@cerealdude890 Ай бұрын

Never thought I’d see Garfield optimistic on a Monday

@BillSmithBSartist Ай бұрын

B- is too generous for Stone.

@mbryson2899 Ай бұрын

He was D level at best, a true Karen. It is telling that he did not share a recording of him being pepper sprayed.

@seeya205 Ай бұрын

@@mbryson2899 Exactly! He knows he didn't look good in that video or he would have showed it.

@SacredOwl Ай бұрын

Clearly the hothead gets an F. So does this channel for being bias. We all know that the "journalist" or was he a photographer that day, rushed up on that security guy like a rabid dog and got sprayed. He then tried to give us a completely different narrative. He was so pissed and probably pissed off at the world, that he went back for some more pepper spray, this time he wanted to get on camera in his favor. Mr. Stone is fooling nobody. He needs to go see someone about his problem. It would be better and his first step towards recovery if he gives us the real story, then goes and apologizes to the mall security.

@icecold9511 Ай бұрын

Every auditor talking point, so yeah, he had the camera going.

@Hannah82271 Ай бұрын

okay, lets see how you act after you get pepper sprayed in the face by an obese security guard

@accident123W Ай бұрын

Advocating for your rights requires KNOWING your rights. I’m glad he stood up for himself but I certainly think there was a better way to go about it.

@GoGuard84 Ай бұрын

Pepper sprayed guy should get an F for turning an easy lawsuit into much more.

@12345678971926 Ай бұрын

If you’re the victim, you have to identify yourself reason why if they don’t have a victim they don’t got a case

@Don-mi6zl Ай бұрын

No law requires victim to identify in Texas.

@Josef_R Ай бұрын

@@Don-mi6zl You don't need a law to know that if there is no record of you being victimized, then it never happened. I mean really, how stupid do you have to be to think you're gonna pursue something in court when the court has no idea who you are? You gotta be really stupid to not understand that.

@Extem1 Ай бұрын

@@Don-mi6zl If you want there to be a case yes you do. Having an anonymous victim is a violation of a defendant's right to face their accuser.

@Don-mi6zl Ай бұрын

@@Extem1 Not at all. Those like yourself have been caught yea s later with recordings of children they molested that can't be tracked down and are still prosecuted despite the victims not being identified. The security video is more than enough to convict the fat slug security guard. If his defense wants to track down his victim and out them on the stand to ensure his conviction they can but the police cannot force the victim to identify.

@AmericanNinja85 Ай бұрын

If the victim wants to file charges then yes if not then they don't

@coocoo5756 Ай бұрын

Security guard is supposed to be charged and arrested for the pepper spraying. Clean cut assault charges.

@nodekapunk Ай бұрын

Yeah, was there video evidence of that encounter? I wonder why that didn’t make this video. Maybe he got up in the security guards face like he did the cops when they first got on one scene

@fuzz6938 Ай бұрын

People love to run their mouth without knowing half the information.

@coocoo5756 27 күн бұрын

@@fuzz6938 I’m going based off the video. Unless you show me the complete video. I’ll stand with my statement

@LibertyPrime1982 23 күн бұрын

@coocoo5756 well then you're a smooth brain because you don't have the whole encounter to make that determination

@jgong1 Ай бұрын

I once worked as a security officer for Securitas in California. We were trained only to observe and report. We were forbidden to intervene or pursue suspects. That being said without the beginning of the encounter I cannot say what if any actions the security officers were appropriate or not. But on video, I didn't see them do anything inappropriate. As for Mr. Stone, I don't know what happened in the beginning but judging by his action on film I am guessing he intervene on behalf of the boy on the bicycle basically sticking his nose in something not his business. His lack of understanding of police procedures and laws rubs me the wrong way and his antagonistic tone towards the officers made things harder than it had to be. The officers were professional and show patience with Mr. Stone. And yes they kept him in handcuffs throughout the encounter for good reason. He was armed and they had a call he was causing a disturbance. He was legally detain and there is no time limit on how long handcuffs can stay on someone. It is based on reasonableness. I again advise ATA to do a ride along with his local police department to participate in the local citizen police academy if they still exists. Security Guards: A. Officers A. Mr. Stone: F. ATA: B

@nottelling5415 28 күн бұрын

This video is the perfect example why you should remain calm. His demanding attitude, although probably justified made the situation a lot worse than it was.

@PepeToTheMooon Ай бұрын

Are security guards even allowed to go hands-on like spraying pepper spray??? Thought they were just glorified safety patrols.

@rykehuss3435 Ай бұрын

Only in defense (of self or other) I would assume. The same right you have.

@taylorlibby7642 Ай бұрын

Depends on a few different factors, but sometimes yes.

@DemonaeTV Ай бұрын

Anyone is allowed to defend themselves if they fear for their life and safety. Without the altercation being on video we have no idea what led up to the pepper spray. The way this guy was acting, carrying a knife openly, I feel it's possible he was presenting as a danger to the guard. It's just not possible to know without further evidence.

@estebanbustamante5689 Ай бұрын

It depends on the state. In Arizona, we can.

@Josef_R Ай бұрын

Why do you think they would they be carrying it (or a gun) if they aren't allowed to use it?

@AmazinglyBadGamer Ай бұрын

I'll say this once: "unlawful search AND SEIZURE". The semantics of "arrest" or "seizure" doesn't matter when both would be unlawful as there is no reason to deprive this man of his property. "Freedom does not end where your fear begins"

@emilymalinowski5027 Күн бұрын

I absolutely LOVE the audit vids with Security Gaurds ❤

@PaintMyTaint 14 күн бұрын

How does infringing on a citizen's rights give the police officers a passing grade? Any unconstitutional act is an automatic F.

@anthonnybrownnn9760 Ай бұрын

Security should control their nerves ,and not make the wrong decision.

@skapunkoialternativeliving6522 Ай бұрын

Even though you fought the police officers in a sense. You cannot because sometimes even when they try to disescalate things. People are rational like this guy was loud and irrational. It's hard to calm down a person like this.

@francishughes2016 Ай бұрын

Jeez, You have GOT to sue these security guards, you HAVE to, if you dont, then the whole thing is a complete waste of time, i look forward to the follow up ! ! !.

@JasonRainey29Dec Ай бұрын

If he'd NOT put his hands behind his back to be handcuffed , he would have been charged with "resisting arrest". If he can be charged with "resisting arrest" for refusing to be handcuffed, how is him being handcuffed not being under arrest?

@beautifuldisaster139 Ай бұрын

the first officer got out & literally starting yelling don’t resist & never once told dude he was being detained or anything so a person isn’t resisting if they were never told they were being cuffed or detained

@Figgy20000 Ай бұрын

Did you even bother to watch the video before posting this fucking horseshit? Officer got out and stood there calmly for a full 3 seconds while this guy approached him screaming while brandishing a concealed knife that they knew about on the 911 call before deciding to detain him. What the fuck do you want the officers to do? Wait until some crazy lunatic they've never met before literally stabbed him? What the fuck is wrong with you. Officer came in LITERALLY as patient as he could have possibly been. The crazy cameraman did this to himself.

@RabbiJesus Ай бұрын

Unless you’re yelling for help, it’s probably not a good idea to scream at an officer.

@Platoface Ай бұрын

😂 lick them boots while your at it.

@Super-cb3ic Ай бұрын

Never ask an officer gor help lol

@Bosse_C Ай бұрын

@@Super-cb3icwish the dislike counter was visible

@RabbiJesus Ай бұрын

@@Super-cb3ic have you tried not being a piece of shit?

@KeonRamezani 5 күн бұрын

That was an extraordinarily generous grade for Mr. Stone.

@michaelherring7210 Ай бұрын

There are a lot of cops there! The security guards never denied pepper spraying him either, so he was a victim of a crime. I don’t even know what crime they alleged he committed.

@phofire77 29 күн бұрын

Depends how he engaged the first time. For example if he was using the same demeanor when he approached the other interaction and kept crowding in, then it would be completely understandable for him to get pepper sprite of that point.

@FruitvilleBoy Ай бұрын

Isn’t that the guy that drives around at night time in Texas spotlight to the cops? These guys are losers. No life whatsoever

@Youngbuck3888 Ай бұрын

He's not an auditor so your comment is completely irrelevent in this guy's case.

@JazzyScat 17 күн бұрын

"you've arrested my wrist" 😂. Poor guy getting pepper sprayed by an idiot.

@whothef4900 5 күн бұрын

Bro needs to calm the hell down when dealing with the cops. He got too aggressive with the cops as soon as the first one was getting out of his car. He needed to be detained at that point even if he did nothing wrong

@MaydayAggro Ай бұрын

The officers admitted that RAS was dispelled, and he should have immediately been released from handcuffs.

@Mattit123 Ай бұрын

You have a B- to a guy who just runs ups to a cop yelling for his name and badge number... Dude has no idea how to handle him self in a civilized manner .

@jpc347 Ай бұрын

He heard the security guard make allegedly false claims about his actions and demeanour as well which makes his initial response to the arrival of police even more ridiculous. You know that these guys are claiming to the police that you're armed and aggressive and your first response upon seeing a police officer arrive is to approach aggressively and ignore commands. Man is lucky the police officer arriving on scene didn't draw on him.

@kevinsworld.7086 29 күн бұрын

You sure this wasn't in Kentucky? Everybody was hillbilly as it gets. "Whats yur name?" "James James"

@MysteryMan404 Ай бұрын

They LOST it

@ReadTheShrill Ай бұрын

Some tips for the photographer: 1. The guy admitted that he approached the guard, not the other way around. If you have words with someone, do not move toward them. 2. If someone pepper-sprays you, don't confront them, be FIRST to call police, and tell them you've been assaulted. 3. Whenever dealing with cops you need to KEEP YOUR COOL. The on-screen text says the 1st officer was "combative", but that's not what I saw. Police had been told (See #2) a civilian had a weapon and was creating a disturbance, and when they arrive, they find the photographer mad and yelling. The police reacted to that. If he had kept his cool, they probably wouldn't have even cuffed him.

@stacyannraid5237 Ай бұрын

Some of these security guards too quickl to act.they should be arrested .

@Rowgue51 Ай бұрын

The handcuffs don't automatically in and of themselves transform a detention into an arrest. But it's a very significant factor, and coupled with the fact that he was also searched and had some of his property seized it's clear that in this case this was clearly a custodial arrest.

@idontno0 29 күн бұрын

He called security "public servants". "And when i came up on him thats when he sprayed me and i wasn't even close to him". Why would you "come up on someone" if you weren't trying to get close? It's sounds like both these dudes were fools. "You've arrested my wrists". I can't stand listening to this guy.

@jaimeortega4940 Ай бұрын

As the pepper sprayed victim is the complainant asking for medical help and not the mall cops he should never have been "detained" or "cuffed" and had his property illegally seized as per the mall cops "he didn't use those on us." Because it was all on camera.

@dannyfergusson3243 Ай бұрын

Based on the report he was wielding a pointy weapon ergo scissors with a pointy edge detaining him and putting him down was for sure prudent

@jpc347 Ай бұрын

The cops were called for an alleged aggressive person armed with a weapon and who was willing to use it. When they arrived a man approached them who was clearly agitated and refused to listen to them when they requested him to stop and turn around. In that situation it's totally reasonable to stop and retain that person until you can figure out what's going on. It was the guy's own demeanour that got himself into that situation.

@GaigeChan Ай бұрын

I don't give two shyts what the convoluted law of man says. If you are handcuffed, you are under arrest. PERIOD.

@user-ml1cj1nw4y 10 күн бұрын

Exactly if you take away my freedom of movement then I’m under arrested movement which means I can not control my actions of my free will. Simple if the cuffs come out and it’s non consensual it’s an arrest

@Flegetanis 23 күн бұрын

The officer responded 100% properly the way the guy got right up in his face like that. It makes me think that the security guard may well have been within his rights, even duties, to spray the guy.

@timothystanleyjafo8503 18 күн бұрын

If I had vision problems. Pointing to your name will Not Work ...... I love your site. Tim.

@mandoguy726 Ай бұрын

Anyone saying the dude should have been nicer can STFU. It is not illegal to be rude to cops/guards. They are the ones who chose to be up in everyone's business as a job.

@CynthiaSmith-iu4ev 22 күн бұрын

😂

@user-ml1cj1nw4y 10 күн бұрын

Exactly we don’t have to be nice to fucking anyone