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@mixowtlawz007
@mixowtlawz007 Жыл бұрын
I was unconsciously putting my automatic car on park mode.
@tejeshs3646
@tejeshs3646 Жыл бұрын
Now Unconsciously Take Some Poison n Unconsciously Pretend to be Dead 💀
@Eren-da-Jaeger
@Eren-da-Jaeger Жыл бұрын
Dont do that. Its a bad habit, someday in hurrry u could leave brake at reverse. Unless you are really parking dont select park gear, . This is why sequence is always P R N D Always put on N when standing in traffic. Its a fail item in UK test, and India follows all rules of road as UK's The Highway Code
@mixowtlawz007
@mixowtlawz007 Жыл бұрын
@@Eren-da-Jaeger noted.
@asjadali2782
@asjadali2782 Жыл бұрын
Also do not put your car into neutral your gearbox life will be reduced and it will fry sooner than you know it. Keep it in drive and use auto brake hold function if you have otherwise if issue remains better get some work done on your brakes(rotor,brake pads).
@adhikmohite1294
@adhikmohite1294 Жыл бұрын
​@@Eren-da-Jaegerक
@maverick24in
@maverick24in Жыл бұрын
I always follow this to put it in neutral or Park mode
@Eren-da-Jaeger
@Eren-da-Jaeger Жыл бұрын
Dont use park unless actually parking. Beech me rev hota hai, galti se brake choota ro peeche jaoge aur peeche wala aage ayega, time na milega bachne ka. Traffic mein hamesha neutral. Actual parking karte samay hi park mein dalna hai. Manual bhi padh liya karo apne car ka labhi kabhi. Wo tumhare liye hai.
@sumitbhatt3469
@sumitbhatt3469 Жыл бұрын
Who tf put it on park mode?
@kartikpunetha537
@kartikpunetha537 Жыл бұрын
​@@Eren-da-Jaeger neutral krne ke baad handbrake ki jarurat h ??
@atharvbhosale1574
@atharvbhosale1574 Жыл бұрын
This is really dangerous, I have experienced this a bus was crossing us and we were waiting just some distance aside and break went a bit loose . Car moved forward in Verry slow unnoticeable speed and almost touched the side of slow passing bus . Thanks God my dad was sitting aside to me 😢
@a1indianboy
@a1indianboy Жыл бұрын
Llllll
@devanshgupta4107
@devanshgupta4107 10 ай бұрын
Which car?
@atharvbhosale1574
@atharvbhosale1574 10 ай бұрын
@@devanshgupta4107 city zx
@subramanyaprasad8847
@subramanyaprasad8847 2 ай бұрын
Wrong, !! Most modern automatic cars don't accelerate when brakes are applied, it will increase acceleration after releasing the brake.
@DushyantSuthardushyant30suthar
@DushyantSuthardushyant30suthar Ай бұрын
Is channel waale se ye ummid nhi thi.... Upsr se bolta aapko nahi pata hoga
@pwnjangid
@pwnjangid 21 күн бұрын
Exactly
@anishdoshi700
@anishdoshi700 Жыл бұрын
But brake pads should not wear in this case. Once they hold the wheel steady, no friction will be there to wear them out
@matrixgaming764
@matrixgaming764 10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@gulhassnatzahid1684
@gulhassnatzahid1684 10 ай бұрын
If there is no friction why is the car no moving Friction rubbs against the brake caliper which causes friction He said that the car is trying to move farward and the brake is trying to stop it like in a tug war you are still pulling the other team even if the rope isn't moving.
@riot6992
@riot6992 9 ай бұрын
​@@gulhassnatzahid1684bro those people don't have enough mamory storage to understand this type of things
@whyzi6143
@whyzi6143 8 ай бұрын
@@gulhassnatzahid1684there is friction. But there is no sheer. Therefore no wear in the breaks. I think he just used the wrong terminologies. But he is actually right
@mohdfahad1562
@mohdfahad1562 19 күн бұрын
Konc science lagaa rahe ho Bhai???? Car to move krrnaa chah rhi he... But brakes ki wajahh se move ni krrhi...😂😂😂🤣 Friction hae... Tabhi to. Brakes rokke paa rhi hain car ko.... Friction na hoti to brake maarne k baad be car ni ruktii...🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣
@ankurbhugra
@ankurbhugra Жыл бұрын
Engine Start stop mechanism works well in this case, also DSG/DCT gear boxes are intelligent enough to handle this case to avoid wear n tear
@jishnudewan6233
@jishnudewan6233 Жыл бұрын
Dct gear boxes are the one that heat up in traffic if you've been following em u would know
@ankurbhugra
@ankurbhugra Жыл бұрын
@@jishnudewan6233 You’re right! But the modern DCT/DSG tech is improved a lot, i have a VW DSG no issues in traffic
@thefitguy7212
@thefitguy7212 Жыл бұрын
What about IVT?
@jishnudewan6233
@jishnudewan6233 Жыл бұрын
@@ankurbhugra hope they go well but we'll get to know in long term only my close relative also has kia 7 dct let's see how it goes for creta dct 2020-21 there are a lot of heating issues on tbhp
@viratjain25
@viratjain25 Жыл бұрын
I drive an automatic and to counter this effect i always shift to “N” whenever i’m heavy traffic or at a signal. Also, since i was driving manual previously, this small shift every time i take a pause makes me feel more in control 😊
@6alviumair
@6alviumair Жыл бұрын
Modern day cars engage themselves in neutral if you keep the brake pedal pressed for a few seconds. You can make this out by the revs too. When you start releasing the brake, the gearbox engages in 1st again.
@amrinderpalsinghbains1188
@amrinderpalsinghbains1188 8 ай бұрын
Does this happen maruti ags
@pwnjangid
@pwnjangid 21 күн бұрын
Exactly
@samyakjain4969
@samyakjain4969 Жыл бұрын
Mujhe kya mere paas to manual wagon r hai. 😂😂 mujhe bss handbrake kheechna hai..
@ashwinmishra9547
@ashwinmishra9547 5 ай бұрын
Hand brake AMT me bhi hota hai😏
@sagarade3535
@sagarade3535 Жыл бұрын
Neutral will improve life but when brake is pressed the gear disengages so car is not applying effort until brake is released
@anand5190
@anand5190 Жыл бұрын
What about clutch 😏 nd no braking does not disengages gear ...fr toh har baar break press krne mein gear engage hoga 🤣
@AyushSingh-rd7tr
@AyushSingh-rd7tr Жыл бұрын
Engine braking left the chat🙂
@Chopper153
@Chopper153 Жыл бұрын
@@anand5190 The car shown here doesn't have a clutch, it's a torque converter.
@PotatotheTroll
@PotatotheTroll Жыл бұрын
This is half true. Automatics use a torque converter, which is like a differential, to prevent the engine from stalling when it's in gear and stopped. Modern cars have a locking plate in the torque converter that can guarantee a 1:1 speed ratio once the car reaches a (typically very low) speed, think like 5-20 depending on age and model. While stopped, because the engine is still kind of in gear and turning, it naturally follows that upon releasing the brakes, the car creeps forward. Because of this always-in-gear behavior, some cars produce more vibration when stopped in gear than when in park or neutral. Cars with auto start/stop features might not automatically creep.
@RodnixonYT
@RodnixonYT 2 ай бұрын
But motorocatane in the cars like Suzuki Brezza we have the smart hybrid feature which turns off the engine on braking when ever we stop so in this case we don’t brake hard to stop car. So is this helpful or it’s the same thing??😅😅
@himanshusinghmar8075
@himanshusinghmar8075 Жыл бұрын
It is just applicable for torque converter gearbox usually used in BMW not happen inVW DSG technology
@ameerjesh4330
@ameerjesh4330 Жыл бұрын
dsg me drive mode me car crawl ni krti hogi shyd
@rjt-everything3296
@rjt-everything3296 Жыл бұрын
Sirf torque converter me hota he Amt aur dct me break dabaane par clutch ka v kaam karta he
@deepsaurabh7579
@deepsaurabh7579 Жыл бұрын
This is more important for AMT, as clutch slip is there in AMT. AT and DSG less affected AT and DSG sometime completely disengage, AMT is becoming good by incorporating new algos like completely disengaging .
@rjt-everything3296
@rjt-everything3296 Жыл бұрын
@@deepsaurabh7579 vai amt me koi effect nehi hota Because when you press the break in low rpm It completely disengage the the clutch as well
@vinzbiz
@vinzbiz 2 ай бұрын
Engaing neutral engine on vehicle is a wrong suggestion. In automatic transmission since there is no clutch, there is a tensioner belt which disengages the engine from providing maximum power. When you put vehicle in neutral, there is excessive wear in that belt. Eventually you will have to spend a lot or money. Ideally its better to put the vehicle in P or else apply brakes or engage hold assist in the traffic signal than engaging neutral.
@aditya_akash
@aditya_akash Жыл бұрын
Not on electric! It completely stops the energy flow on auto hold.
@riyasinghcreations5029
@riyasinghcreations5029 Жыл бұрын
You own electric car ?? Can you give me review?
@aditya_akash
@aditya_akash Жыл бұрын
@@riyasinghcreations5029 it’s been a complete pleasure to own. There have been barely any issues apart from minor tech related that were solved. There are a lot of features in my Skoda Kodimaram that make more sense in my EV since there is no engine. Doing 250 km a day highway/city use is easy on my max. Fast home charger is worth it. Been to 4 different cities around Mumbai already.
@ABHI-dl4dc
@ABHI-dl4dc Жыл бұрын
​@@aditya_akash man that car looks dope nice drive safely have fun mate !!
@SubzEye
@SubzEye Жыл бұрын
This is the exact question i wanted to ask you guys for a different reason, but you helped me with my answer. Thank you guys!
@thomas2182
@thomas2182 Жыл бұрын
Thanks , I have 5 series would make sure to keep it in mind when in traffic
@mohit5970
@mohit5970 Жыл бұрын
Nhi nhi nhi .... Gadi me system hota h jo break dabane k bad engine ko push krne se rokta h ... It doesn't harm ur breaks it just cut off engine and axel just like clutch
@manjjjit
@manjjjit Жыл бұрын
Traffic me manual pe bhi me aise hi chalata hun 😬
@sunsign2186
@sunsign2186 Жыл бұрын
Bhai logo parking mode pe dal k signal mein mat khade hona, parking pin delegate hoti h, tut gaye toh pura transmission thap , uper ee parking dalte h,ee gate b unlock ho jate h Neem hakim khatare jaane
@VikrantChoudhary4801
@VikrantChoudhary4801 Жыл бұрын
bro jab disk plate move hi ni kar rahi hai to brake disk ghisegi kaise.brake ne just hold Kiya hua hai
@RishiMukherjeeGeek
@RishiMukherjeeGeek Жыл бұрын
My BMW 530i xDrive has a Hold button which takes care of all that!
@mohdshariq8306
@mohdshariq8306 Жыл бұрын
Bhai breaks jate h Friction se ghisne pr. Khadi gaadi me force to lag rhi h aage jaane ki but the breaks are not rubbing off. The wheels are locked in place. Force gearbox and clutch endure krta h. Plus aap to journalist ho yeh to jaante honge that clutches automatic me bhi hote h.
@salikashraf07
@salikashraf07 Жыл бұрын
Amazing content❤
@vivshij1349
@vivshij1349 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I kinda knew this... But always forget to put to Neutral. Now I will be more aware.
@yumyumtom6395
@yumyumtom6395 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to correct u here. When you push break, then clutch automatically gets disengaged.
@mukulbros6357
@mukulbros6357 Жыл бұрын
Rpm stays stable when braking and increases when we lift our foot. Hence, brake is not forcing the car to stop, engine comes at normal rpm when brake is pressed at certain pressure
@fiftyweedman
@fiftyweedman Жыл бұрын
Thank you rachit..this was really helpful!🙏🏻
@abhishekmandlik008
@abhishekmandlik008 Жыл бұрын
Engaging brake also engages clutch, so dont think the engine force is damaging the brakes here. @motoroctane you need to check the concept again here.
@jonathanandrew5249
@jonathanandrew5249 Жыл бұрын
Thanks found it useful.
@drgaganvelayudhan1733
@drgaganvelayudhan1733 Жыл бұрын
Good learning point. Thanks!
@7heaven1896
@7heaven1896 Жыл бұрын
Your all videos and shorts always shine be like sun 🌅
@mad_titanthanos
@mad_titanthanos Жыл бұрын
That's actually a good logical point
@reaz8354
@reaz8354 Жыл бұрын
Good information❤
@manojitbrahme3731
@manojitbrahme3731 15 күн бұрын
Actually, there's a feature in automatic cars where the clutch gets disengaged from gearbox while idle breaking so there is no damage to the engine and the gears
@mirabgamingyt
@mirabgamingyt 3 ай бұрын
Which model bmw In this video
@ashutoshbarot62
@ashutoshbarot62 Жыл бұрын
Also don't use park mode as Handbrake.. use Handbrake for parking. Park mode has weak parts, not to be used as an alternative to handbrake
@SaniyaSachinm
@SaniyaSachinm 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Video it will help me.😊
@ameydeshmukh3431
@ameydeshmukh3431 Жыл бұрын
Rachit sir pls make one video on virtus KZfaq ke kuch videos dekhe maine usme bol rahe hai ki DSG is dry clutch gearbox if u drive fast evry time get on to the throttle then woh gearbox kharab ho sakta hai usee maintain karna bohot bhari hai also very costly on the other side so pls make video it will not cover only virtus but also Tigun, Kushaq and Slavia bhi
@amolbinwade9206
@amolbinwade9206 Жыл бұрын
Automatic car ka Brake jaldi jata hai...but not for putting brake on red light. It is because automatic car me aap gear Kam karke engine braking nahi karte...to obviously aapko brake jyada use karni padti hai
@rohitranjan5063
@rohitranjan5063 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this. Thanks 🙏🏻
@mrjaspalsingh
@mrjaspalsingh Жыл бұрын
Baat sahi hai but auto hold Mein flywheel lock karta hai usme brake use nahi hoti
@shrishailkatti3197
@shrishailkatti3197 Жыл бұрын
Bhai it won't put pressure on gear when you press break or put on auto hold at the same time the clutch is pressed inside the system you won't be aware.
@atharvanimbalkar
@atharvanimbalkar Жыл бұрын
Waiting for review 🤩🔥😍
@jonytulsian
@jonytulsian Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@ronepr
@ronepr Жыл бұрын
It is better than knee replacement For injury caused due to frequent clutch press
@atharvanimbalkar
@atharvanimbalkar Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir for this video 🙏☺️
@throughheart487
@throughheart487 Жыл бұрын
Manuel is the real king
@newtechgroundclearancekit
@newtechgroundclearancekit Жыл бұрын
even me too following this .... since 8 years
@carosonic51222
@carosonic51222 Жыл бұрын
Sir lakin hum jab break lagate hai to engine off ho jata hai because of idol start stop. To phir bhi aage badegi
@pratiksawant5609
@pratiksawant5609 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@sheri9516
@sheri9516 6 ай бұрын
My brother, if the car is completely stationary while holding the brakes, they will not wear out. It is only when a car is even moving slightly and we brake to stop it, the brakes will wear out at that point. 😊
@mayankkulshresthasahab1316
@mayankkulshresthasahab1316 Жыл бұрын
Same goes to IMT, not even break it will effect transmission
@HK-wv5zw
@HK-wv5zw 6 ай бұрын
On an incline in heavy traffic what should be done to avoid break pads to wear out soon especially in hilly areas...
@ssabt12
@ssabt12 Жыл бұрын
Bro.. software is there to stop car from crawling when brakes are pressed. Aise nshi ki gari khara hai to clutch engaged hai. Torque converter and DCT both will have engine disconnected
@mohdshariq8306
@mohdshariq8306 Жыл бұрын
Bro Bs kuch b kr k video bnakr paisa chaiye.. khi dekh lia hoga to bna betha😂😂😂. Clutch pack be like to me kya kru.
@rishijain9802
@rishijain9802 2 ай бұрын
Logic left the chat
@nishiter
@nishiter Жыл бұрын
This for geared car also if first gear is engaged
@TOYODAxTRONICofficial
@TOYODAxTRONICofficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you too much motor octain I also like Toyota Corolla Altis grande X 1.8 now I'll also Improve my car's brakes life and also the other Things after I come from The Showroom 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@rishirajput2122
@rishirajput2122 Жыл бұрын
brake bhi jaega clutch plate bhi jaega companies ko default kr dena chahie hold pr neutral me dalna
@gauravwaila5509
@gauravwaila5509 Жыл бұрын
Putting the car on 'Park' at a red light is blunder....Basically park mode locks the gearbox and if a vehicle slams you from behind, not only will it damage your vehicle from the exterior but also break your gear case.... Go for the 'Neutral' instead..
@drstapes-ravi
@drstapes-ravi Жыл бұрын
For longer durations you should leave it in parking or engine takes damage in long term
@anujamestry5128
@anujamestry5128 3 ай бұрын
In my recently purchased Grand Vitara smart hybrid automatic, the car engine stops automatically if I keep brakes pressed for a few seconds at one place, and when I release brake, the engine starts. This function helps in saving fuel. No need of Neutral mode.
@sariru2338
@sariru2338 Жыл бұрын
Thanks ❤️‍🔥
@sumitron2k
@sumitron2k Жыл бұрын
Bhai bmw le k 5 rs ka additional brake ghisne ka tension lega admi to kaise chalenga. Isliye apni apni aukat k hisab se gadi leni chaiye na so that u don’t have to think abt these things. However good info.
@voiceeditzz36
@voiceeditzz36 Жыл бұрын
Abe mandbuddhi ye sab automatic cars me hoti hai Thoda akal lagaya kar
@harshverma42
@harshverma42 Жыл бұрын
Bmw ke brakes bhi mahange ate hai😂
@rohankapoor8291
@rohankapoor8291 Жыл бұрын
Oh jhaatu company me brake pad change karana matlab 25-30 thousand, fortuner ke break pads hi 12-13 thousand me change hote hai
@ABHI-dl4dc
@ABHI-dl4dc Жыл бұрын
I think user ko pta hona chaiye how to properly use the goods they bought nhi toh Saurav joshi vala haal hojayega mileage ka meaning nhi ptha 2 gaddi le rakhi hai 🫡 and its common sense jo bi karo ache sai karo 😑
@ReignLdrago
@ReignLdrago Жыл бұрын
bhutnike cycle ke power brakes nhi h vo gaadi k disc brakes h or vo bhi bmw k, unhe badalwane me tera ghar chaa jayinga
@qaautomationcult3868
@qaautomationcult3868 Жыл бұрын
I admire your knowledge but this is common sense
@dipakpatil3206
@dipakpatil3206 Жыл бұрын
Bhai cluch bhi jaldi jata hai
@aishwaryapreet111
@aishwaryapreet111 Жыл бұрын
Or switchon Auto start stop feature if available
@deepsaurabh7579
@deepsaurabh7579 Жыл бұрын
Not always TC is engaged when in D and stopped completely, if car is still (in D) in traffic and TC is engaged (you can feel through brake and engine vibration) I put it in N otherwise if TC is not engaged I leave it as it is < 10 sec. This is for rapid Aisin TC.
@sandeeptiwary
@sandeeptiwary Жыл бұрын
I learnt from another youtuber from abroad that sacrificing brakepad is much convenient and pocket friendly compare gearbox wear n tear by frequent change of drive mode in automatic cars and felt it has sense when we are driving in heavy traffwhen to cross one light you need 2-3 stops and multiple such crossings. Rachit what u say? Can you get a detailed vdo where we can understand wear n tear of gear n transmission box per stop if we change from D to N or P.
@gaminguceyt
@gaminguceyt Жыл бұрын
Nice One Brother ❤️🔥👌
@RockyTheory
@RockyTheory Жыл бұрын
arre bhai break clutch ke sath link hota hai break marte hai to clutch automaticaly dab jata hai.
@kuldeepkicomedy113
@kuldeepkicomedy113 Жыл бұрын
@@RockyTheory sahi baat ,kyonki agar gaadi aage Jane ki koshis krti to rpm badhne chahiye ,लेकिन ऐसा nhi hota hai
@motoroctane
@motoroctane Жыл бұрын
Try and see - you will notice - the engine has lesser noise when you are in neutral than drive.
@harendraprasad6209
@harendraprasad6209 Жыл бұрын
Car driver should know this before they drive any automatic car and it makes sense to put on park or neutral when at signal.
@mohitkumar100
@mohitkumar100 Жыл бұрын
my automatic Honda amazes is driven in same situation...the brake pads are not changed for three services..30k kms
@rezzzr6s675
@rezzzr6s675 Жыл бұрын
brake sirf khatam hoti he rub hone se. still stand me brake nahi use hoty
@saurabhjotawar
@saurabhjotawar Жыл бұрын
Useful information 👍
@jigarbhavsar2785
@jigarbhavsar2785 Жыл бұрын
What about smart hybrid it automatically off the car when at traffic signal and automatically starts when we gave acceleration
@anant1985
@anant1985 Жыл бұрын
Correct and it also affects clutch plate as well...
@sagarade3535
@sagarade3535 Жыл бұрын
This bmw doesn't have a clutch its a torque converter automatic
@rjt-everything3296
@rjt-everything3296 Жыл бұрын
@@sagarade3535 hota he bhai clutch plate v lekin wo sirf cruising speed par kaam karta he
@TheTusharbhardwaj
@TheTusharbhardwaj Жыл бұрын
These cars have clutch built within, Once you apply brakes, clutch is engaged automatically
@TheCoolbodyboy
@TheCoolbodyboy Жыл бұрын
Un necessary load on the gear box and heating it up.... by putting it on Neutral each time.....
@krishhna14
@krishhna14 2 ай бұрын
Nice information
@arnavrocks.official1742
@arnavrocks.official1742 Күн бұрын
What about auto stop start during signal?
@aaradhyamenswear6426
@aaradhyamenswear6426 Жыл бұрын
Great man
@amitsharma-zi5xo
@amitsharma-zi5xo 6 ай бұрын
N + hand brake also
@rahuldahiya2635
@rahuldahiya2635 Жыл бұрын
Good information
@harshalgavali
@harshalgavali Жыл бұрын
Great to know that
@NeverEndingPersuit
@NeverEndingPersuit Жыл бұрын
Signal me neutral krne ke liye logon ko educate krna padta hai
@vanshpatel7806
@vanshpatel7806 Жыл бұрын
Or clutch jaldi ghisti ya nhi??
@rjt-everything3296
@rjt-everything3296 Жыл бұрын
Torque converter gearbox me hard clutch nehi hota bro Usme oil driven clutch hota he jise torque converter kehte he
@amitsingh-um5xp
@amitsingh-um5xp Жыл бұрын
Auto start stop is there to shut down the engine
@carsause
@carsause Жыл бұрын
Wrong brake k sath clutch bhi engage Hota h automatic me
@ishupanjwani8758
@ishupanjwani8758 Жыл бұрын
Fuel consumption bhi kaam hota hai p mai rakhne se
@rajshukla8502
@rajshukla8502 29 күн бұрын
Please make a video on bmw m/s gear mode please
@gibsosmart
@gibsosmart Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it have an option not to drive the vehicle till you press accelerator?
@Harmandhinndsa
@Harmandhinndsa Ай бұрын
Is it necessary to press lever everytime of shifter in automatic cars(honda city 2022)?
@mememaster7264
@mememaster7264 Жыл бұрын
Bhai mere pass 4 Wheeler nahi hai... Mere ko kyu bata rahe ho 😑🤣
@bharatguru2094
@bharatguru2094 Ай бұрын
Automobile Industry ke Principal, Rachit Bhaii 🔥🔥🔥
@NS-cl7tk
@NS-cl7tk Жыл бұрын
kyu rachit esa bhi hota h naa ki brak dabane see pehle clutch active ho jata ho when ever u r at slow speeds aur ek baar break hold hone ke baad vese bhi break pads nahi ghaste h kyuki hold to ho gya naa hmm lekin engine par fark pad sakta h thoda
@vineetkumar7646
@vineetkumar7646 Жыл бұрын
Good advice
@xxneggalee2785
@xxneggalee2785 8 ай бұрын
what are the +, - buttons on the handle
@nileshdhote709
@nileshdhote709 Жыл бұрын
Same for gearbox also
@sunyvlogs20
@sunyvlogs20 7 ай бұрын
Roung information brack me clutch bhi engaje hota hai
@preetishah6605
@preetishah6605 Жыл бұрын
Perfect tip
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