How To Flare IRCCM Missiles In 10 Minutes

How To Flare IRCCM Missiles In 10 Minutes | War Thunder

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Hopefully this video soothes the ruffled feathers :)
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0:00 - Basic info
1:36 - Traditional flaring
2:18 - NATO Flare Gatewidth IRCCM Rear
3:41 - NATO Flare Tracking Suspension IRCCM Rear
4:54 - NATO Flare Tracking Suspension IRCCM Side
6:21 - Soviet Flare Gatewidth IRCCM Rear
7:11 - Soviet Flare Tracking Suspension IRCCM Rear
7:49 - Soviet Flare Tracking Suspension IRCCM Side
8:43 - EZ mode

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@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

I forgot the AAM3, but it's just the same as AIM 9M so who cares

@redstonemaster6264 Ай бұрын

How about the zionist aim-9m?

@charliearroyo8979 Ай бұрын

Bro really thought he cooked saying "zionist" lmao what a clown@redstonemaster6264

@RAYY_WILD Ай бұрын

@@charliearroyo8979tf is that

@altaccount4697 Ай бұрын

What user skin do you have on your Gripen? It's incredible and that burner flame looks amazing

@HyperactiveMelon Ай бұрын

@@redstonemaster6264The python 3 doesn't have IRCCM, and the python 4 isn't in the game yet.

@leazy911 Ай бұрын

9:10 "do whatever you want, you're a gripen" is the realest shit ever

@Evrimomono Ай бұрын

Defyn, yesterday: There is no content covering defeating the IRCCM missiles so i'll be doing one Seek: bet.

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Bet bc he said my first version was dogshit again 😭

@wtf27pl12 Ай бұрын

How to flare gun rounds???

@sudest889 Ай бұрын

take them down with your own gun

@danepolchin7034 Ай бұрын

You must be an A-10 player

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

F-15A/C can use the BOL pods for 880 flares 🦅🦅🦅

@ZSlayer_05 Ай бұрын

I hate planes using BOL pods.

@thunderwithchrissy Ай бұрын

usa: "um i dont think we have enough flares. just add a few hundred more."

@Shizwiz Ай бұрын

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER?!?!?! OOOOHRAAAH!!! 🦅🦅🦅

@mikeyplayz8438 Ай бұрын

@@ZSlayer_05trash player

@smolpenguingoddess Ай бұрын

Imma keep it real with you we aint gettin those bol pods

@matthewmcclenahan2483 Ай бұрын

This video is concise and straight to the point. I wouldn't unlist it just because Defyn posted his "more comprehensive version" hours later. Ik it feels scummy but it really isn’t. The algorithm will probably recommend both vids to warthunder gamers within time, so you'll get views regardless of his video. Plus, I watch your vids because you describe it in an interesting way, and not solely based on topic covered. So hopefully that makes you feel better!!

@hunterparke9059 Ай бұрын

True man- I was reading in DEFYNS comments about people being recommended to and fro

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Read my community post please @GoodGuyRuska-

@Count_Gustav Ай бұрын

"How to dodge FOX-3 missile in 10 minutes" next?

@vollp Ай бұрын

fly low.

@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын

@@vollpr27er: SIKE!

@vollp Ай бұрын

@@kingghidorah8106 not a fox 3 but yeah, it do be like that

@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын

@@vollp r27er is probably going to be still better than the rest of fox3

@vollp Ай бұрын

@@kingghidorah8106 well we already know that don't we

@coenjansen674 Ай бұрын

Great vid first good irccm flaring one ive seen

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Appreciate it

@goodname6102 Ай бұрын

For soviet pattern plane, there is an easier way to flare aim9m in rear aspect, fly straight pop a series of flare then neg g a little bit (or simply pull out of the way)and the missile will go for flares. And for side aspect, I personally prefer to turn gently to the enemies with constant flaring and a sudden tight turn when missile is near, if that doesn't fool the missile then go up or down as it is in the video.

@johnfredette7420 Ай бұрын

Thanks for making this video. I really didn't have a clue on how to flare irccm before.

@hunterparke9059 Ай бұрын

Wonderful content as usual, thank you for doing your part to inform the playerbase🙏

@angeryitalianchef7251 14 күн бұрын

"I like going down, not only do I get the best luck that way but it also matches my syndrom" NAAAAAAAAAAAH you wild for that. thats hilarious.

@rensss1 Ай бұрын

Omg thank you so much youre like the only guy who knows how to explain this thing so clear this video helped me a LOT for showing democracy to 12.7 jets with f15

@102ndsmirnov7 Ай бұрын

Tbh for the side-aspect AIM-9M with the Su-27 seems to work by just spamming out a few flares and pulling in a chosen direction.

@SkMc51 Ай бұрын

I've had amazing results with a flare series program that lets me passively dump flares at a conservative rate. It's all about just keeping that seeker head on the 9m turned off, and the 73s hate preflares. (.5 second interval, in a series of 4, mixed for max conservation or extra flare for max effectiveness)

@Loudward__ Ай бұрын

Another hood classic, nice video

@jeanmahmoud1035 Ай бұрын

well ty bro very good one

@cammoore0823 Ай бұрын

This is a great video! One thing I have to ask is how would you go about flaring using countermeasures that deploy straight from the rear? The F14B with its flare pods deploy straight backwards. Once the pods run out of flares (which will never happen unless you spam) then it switches to the downward NATO flare, but otherwise it’s just directly backward.

@unoriginalplays120 Ай бұрын

The missiles I die to the most in the gripen are always R73s, if you let them get too close you cant do too much about it. (preflaring doesnt always work as they can radar slave) 9Ms are easier to flare last second as you can just roll and pull. But having 700 cm in the gripen usually just lets you ignore the fact IR missiles exist anyway

@pyencdocde5716 Ай бұрын

The 9M and AAM-3 you can literally just roll, no need to pitch regardless of flare pattern. Front and rear aspect that is, in my experience 2 or 3 pops is enough to flare it

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

you can always do a 360º roll while flaring, no need to pitch/turn off afterburner; from my experience works best vs 9M/AAM3 but also works vs gatewidth. You can test it, for me works pretty consistently as long as its a rear aspect missile 👍

@thespacemanfil4921 Ай бұрын

This video was great? Why did you de-list it :(

@kizvy Ай бұрын

cant wait for that 8v8 match maker pleasae gaijin

@malice_779 Ай бұрын

4 minutes ago is crazy unc

@ahdp9866 Ай бұрын

You can just change your speed vector wherever you want during firing flares to dodge 9m

@vincentreim8962 Ай бұрын

For the soviet type of flaring a magic 2, it’s actually easier in the su 27 than in the MiG 29 cause the su 27 has large counter measures which burn longer, hotter and don’t need as long to heat up as normal CM, so you need more flares in a mig 29 right?

@Ryan-go6id Ай бұрын

Keep in mind plane temperature is important, if you get one of these launched on you in a Tomcat, say goodnight. And you can pull away, you don’t have to do -G. As long as the flare has time to heat up and get in between you and the missile

@vincentreim8962 Ай бұрын

The su 27 has large CM which burn longer, hotter and don’t take too long to heat up unlike the mig 29s CM , so how many do you need in perspective?

@akidafloof Ай бұрын

What about the Mig-23ML with the flare pod? It goes up first and then down

@martinwellhoefer9159 Ай бұрын

Great tutorial. Im getting my mig 23 mla soon where i will face 4th gen jets.

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Nice! That’ll be the Soviet style upward firing deployment pattern 👍

@pizzacat7169 Ай бұрын

W video still refuse to play my 12.7 mig 21 smt and f8 e is where the fun is at imo

@Shizwiz Ай бұрын

Just recently unlocked the Crusader, gotta say it's probably my favorite jet to fly as of now. 9C AND 9D combo, my beloved.

@GoodGuyRuska- Ай бұрын

i love trashing the shitty f5c players in the mig21

@pizzacat7169 Ай бұрын

@@Shizwiz dude the f8e is so fun love it to death the 9c make me nut 😫😏

@SpitsAreTheBest_Mk.IX_61 Ай бұрын

I just unlocked the 29G and going from 732 flares on the gripen to 60 hurts

@GoodGuyRuska- Ай бұрын

@@SpitsAreTheBest_Mk.IX_61 tbh there is 0 reason to use the mig29g over the gripen

@hermnkiel1080 Ай бұрын

Idont know if you w you who made the video before, but with the 9m dont you just have to flare constantly and change direction since the tracker turns off when it detects flares?

@OzzyTheWild Ай бұрын

Yeah but you would loose much more speed doing that, putting you in a bad situation

@Jaeger_89 Ай бұрын

All of that is a bit hard to pull off in 16v16 matches, with 50 missiles flying everywhere at the same time and in a plane with only 60 countermeasures. But still, this was very enlightening. If Gaujon decides to reduce player numbers as they should, I might go back to top tier and try those out.

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Yup, all goes back to player size

@Jatzki Ай бұрын

I don't think I'll have the 10 mins in-game for flaring

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

🤯

@WanWan-em5qu Ай бұрын

Ok, but what if the missles reach me in under 10 mins?

@vlga8917 Ай бұрын

do a detailed explanation for the ground based IR missiles.

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

You don’t. Really flare those afaik, you just dodge them

@flak8842 Ай бұрын

To make it easier for people playing top tier go to controls and enable Hold Throttle For WEP That's it you are welcome

@WHYGAIJIN-AIM-120A Ай бұрын

The missle

@_S1mba Ай бұрын

seek giving us the education

@ivanvukadin3194 Ай бұрын

What about the AAMs from IR Sams? Any idea how to defeat those?

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Not a clue

@Orion_179 Ай бұрын

Well you forgot the f14b, using those BOL flares to flare those missiles are impossible

@salltyboi Ай бұрын

What’s the difference between this one and the last irccm video u made?

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

The techniques are better and more consistent. The last guide wasn’t very good. This is supposed to be a correction to that, as I have now unlisted the old one. DEFYNs guide is more comprehensive though

@THEguy36100 Ай бұрын

Defyn and seek collab to make these videos and dropping them on the same day?

@charleston-re3dw Ай бұрын

What about ground to air IR missiles though

@RogueBeatsARG Ай бұрын

Now do it with 16 enemies

@pustelnik6391 Ай бұрын

Now do about radar missiles

@Takamiya_Mio Ай бұрын

It’s really good to practice since you made 2 part of Large-Caliber Countermeasure and Normal one which has NATO’s standard. Why did u unlisted it? its literally better.

@Luzo-wx2eo Ай бұрын

Just spam the flares buttom, i do that and always, always works. f15(The japanese one)

@bublyk83 Ай бұрын

What can you say about ground to air missiles? Any tips?

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

No idea. A few of them combine both types of IRCCM and to my knowledge are pretty much unflarable. Your best chance is kinetically dodging them so go fast and learn how to use your rudder in dodges

@Ghosti.-. Ай бұрын

Personally I like this video more than Defyn's. It might just be me being a monkeybrain, but I was able to understand your video better than his xD

@aerbon Ай бұрын

man i don't hav 10 minutes to flare this i nee-

@PotatoeJoe69 Ай бұрын

Cut throttle to 0, turn as hard as you can and flare flare flare

@fabihubi7039 Ай бұрын

It takes 10 minutes to flare IRCCM missiles? 😮

@The_Gabinator Ай бұрын

👀

@chadthe_chad6138 Ай бұрын

what about the 9m39(igla) , stinger and etc ?

@pheaktra_ Ай бұрын

just turn. they dont pull much

@maouslime7735 Ай бұрын

I had tried the negative G method on F15 when R73 was first introduced, very very unreliable. On the other hand f16 doesn't even need negative g simply put the belly to where the missile is coming from and pull seem to work 100% of the time.

@maouslime7735 Ай бұрын

Also to add, if you are flying a Tornado, fly straight against magic 2 and R73, it is really that easy.

@PanzerSteinn Ай бұрын

Nah, I’m not even trying to learn this. 11.3 is working for me

@ShyeHD Ай бұрын

weak

@PanzerSteinn Ай бұрын

@@ShyeHD not really, ground more enjoyable than this trash environment

@OzzyTheWild Ай бұрын

Most of these missiles are at 11.3 tbh. Magic 2s are on the Mirage F1 R73s are on the Su25s Aim9Ms are on F15s and Harrier

@rekamtihgaming1 Ай бұрын

Yes I can only flare IRCCMs for only 10mins

@yonnaay Ай бұрын

why video is now unlisted?

@cookiecraze1310 Ай бұрын

See the community post

@tK-fg1nr Ай бұрын

Bro forgot the TY-90 and all the other manpad based IRCCM missles

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

This is an air channel, as always

@cptstratboss8561 Ай бұрын

YOU ARE LYING TO THESE CHILDREN THERE IS THE LEGENDARY WAY YOU SAVE FOR YOUR SELF

@thespacemanfil4921 Ай бұрын

8:20 lmaoooooo

@maggi98mw Ай бұрын

Fuck me toptier is a whole different game..

@raketny_hvost Ай бұрын

очень занятные замечания касаемо паттернов и поведения ракет. хотя я до сих пор не верю в "честность" улитки и её неткода, детальный разбор механик и видеодемонстрация всегда очень интересны.

@mcohanov Ай бұрын

When you flare one missile, 3 more are launched, kind of useless knowlegde for current ARB

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

Alright, then don’t use any of it

@brannonmeador1792 Ай бұрын

We cannot have realistic 9x in this game ever, it would not be fun at all

@tobi2233 Ай бұрын

Why would you delete this video

@SeekerHead Ай бұрын

It isn’t deleted, it’s temporarily unlisted. You can still watch it if you have the link. I plan to make it public again at a later date

@tobi2233 Ай бұрын

@@SeekerHead ok, just saying because it was a nice vid

@milanvnuk Ай бұрын

You forget aam3, and you forget to mention rule number one. ,,Do not panic when missile is launched !!!,,

@judgepootie1426 Ай бұрын

Why cant i hit shit with aim9m's? I had zero problems with aim9L's. Can anyone give me some tips to better play the f16c?

@ivanvukadin3194 Ай бұрын

Shoot from rear aspect and hope he doesn't know what to do 9Ms are the easiest of the IRCCMs to dodge due to them shutting off the seekers when someone flares unlike the R73 or Magic2 who shrink their Pov down

@Danknic1234 Ай бұрын

It's the same for me with R73 they just always gwt flared off immediately like there irccm doesn't work

@iansysoev9462 Ай бұрын

@@Danknic1234 IRCCM only works below 1.5 kms distance and only in rear aspect

@Danknic1234 Ай бұрын

@@iansysoev9462 done that about 50 or so time under 1mile and still hasn't like the game bugs out or something even at its most optimal launch still gets one flared

@iansysoev9462 Ай бұрын

@@Danknic1234 you sure it was rear aspect? I. E. you could see enemies afterburner clearly?

@TheAndyboy888 Ай бұрын

Yeah, now imagine fighting the toptiers with irccm ir rockets in your shit phantom or something else with only 60 flares. You can preflare and dodge the shit once or twice if you have luck and after that you are sitting duck without more flares waiting for your death. Gaijin balance at its best

@OzzyTheWild Ай бұрын

Thats one huge problem imo right now. Some aircrafts only has 60 flares, its possible to survive, but you'll need much more practice to flare those missiles efficiently

@jrzym Ай бұрын

3:52 Pulling is unnecessary when the 9m comes directly from behind. Just cut the burner, roll and pop flare continuously for 1.5-2 secs.

@jrzym Ай бұрын

Cutting burner is also unnecessary as shown in the video. But since 9m and r73 are actually more sensitive to plane’s ir signal than flares, cutting burner decreases the chance 9m re-acquires you.