Lol.

Because Stephen Hayes came back from Japan having been taught by Hatsumi, previous grandmaster of the Bujinkan, & started his “Shadows of Iga” training group. Shortly after we got the 80s “ninja boom”.

🤡 the internet clown lalith9401 ladies and gentlemen

Sorry, but if you’re the most famous smuggler, the most famous spy, or the most famous ninja, you’re doing it wrong.

​@@jimbutcher5712smugglers transport goods....has nothing to do with people not knowing who they are. And I think you have the wrong idea about how spies and ninjas work.

@@trahapace150he’s not wrong. Famous assassins eliminate the purpose of stealth.

@@AncestorEmpireGaming In their waning years some might brag about their exploits or any other myriad of reasons. Use that smooth brain of yours to think about it.

Me too !!!

We used to run around like the ninjas from the movies back then. Sometimes I still think I’m a ninja.

Me too.

🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏾🙋🏿‍♀️🙋🏾‍♂️🙋‍♀️we all did to..😂😂

​@@proj3cT5150pretty sure we all still love the lore around ninja, samurai and other ancient legendary warriors from around the world I love all things ninja, samurai, assassin and stealth

yup after your dead people Appreciate your work

Really makes you appreciate how much more they’re appreciated these days, like the annual Ninja parade in Modesto.

if you are famous as a ninja than you field as a ninja

I hate to be that guy but hatsumi is still alive and is still head of school of the togakure tyu

In these times if you were famous then you would be hired by the lords to work for them. If nobody knew who you were, you don’t get any jobs

I remember that game also and the sequels right behind it

Rikimaru

O ya that game was wicked cool

Same, some weird dialog tho. Lol

Sho Kosugi or one of his Sons,not sure which can’t remember?done the animation for Rikimaru.

hahaha😂

😂

Hahaha!!!!!!!!

It says “in JAPAN”

Maybe they didn't have a rat to teach them 🤔

Yes he was the best.

Back to shadows 👺🥷👹

Pray for Death was the start for me.

This was very informative. Thank you for your time, effort, generosity,....

Very nicely put ... when I was younger I thought ninjas were what the movie showed us but I was very wrong I started studying and learning what I could to adapt some of their teachings to my own life and philosophy

I saw an excellent video on KZfaq from an American who is an expert in feudal Japan and lives over there. He shared much of the same historically accurate info you shared and more. He revealed Hanzo's nickname was "The Demon Samurai". He wasn't even called a Ninja. Also, the term Shinobi "stealer in" is the more historically accurate term for ninja.

You're right, however don't feel disheartened about it, as you said the more authentic aspect is far more interesting. The popular image of the ninja that exists today is almost an inevitability of story telling tropes, and it's probably what got us intrigued in the first place. It's the culmination of a complex role, in a complex context, that has been simplified and stereotyped for a general audience. It's a caricature. Unfortunately the perpetuated caricature has outgrown the more practical concepts. That caricature probably started in Japanese artwork and plays so that the audience could instantly recognise that characters role; much like a witch having a pointy hat and broom (which originated from women selling beer wanting to standout in a market). This is also compounded when the people in your community are highly agreeable, combined with the profiteers adage of "give the people what they want", and imaginative people inserting their ideas, like the magic from Japanese folklore. Imagine a conversation where a highly enthusiastic western tourist excitedly claims "I heard that ninjas could become invisible!", you want to be polite, keep the conversation going, and don't want to destroy their enthusiasm. It also sounds ninja like, and someone probably did say that to them. You'd probably agreed with them. The symbolism in folklore is metaphoric, profound, and enriching. Yet for some bizarre reason when stories are depicted on TV and film, the live action element seems to make it more real to us. However when you think about it, a lot of the filler and fluff you see in film just wouldn't make sense. Can you really imagine a professional solider or spy somersaulting across a battlefield? Security forces have always had, and still have, the same roles and responsibilities. There have always been professionals that have enforced their state's intent, and professionals tasked with understanding potential threats. The nouns used to name those groups have also changed trough time. What was scouting is now recognisance. The historic terms were based on their region, function, or where those people came from; for example Kusa (Grass), Rappa (Rioter), Suppa (Wonderer), Iga No Mono (Person from Iga) Koga No Mono (Person from Koga), and Shinobi No Mono (Concealed person). During the Sengoku (Warring states) period, these groups had responsibility for guerrilla warfare which could include scouting, raiding and sabotage. A few of their descendants that survived the Sengoku period into the Edo period would find employment in the Oniwaban as Onmitsu, and adapt their inherited skills in intelligence gathering, to surveillance, burglary, and networking. I think of the modern term "Ninja" like the modern term "Commando", that is as a contemporary term to describe the requirements, roles, and responsibilities of guerrilla warfare that have always persisted. The unfortunate reality has always been that not all soldiers are of equal value, most were responsible for fighting and holding their ground for as long as possible, including samurai, and that was their value. However if your responsibility is to gather military intelligence it is obvious that you need an understanding of military things, can survive long enough to return to your superiors with that information, and that you can communicate that information with credibility and authority. As has always been the case, a sensible commander is going to entrust that intelligence gathering responsibility to their most capable and reliable personnel, and in the context of the Sengoku period that would be samurai, either from your own skilled personnel, or recruited from trusted specialists groups. For the professional soldiers and/or law enforcement that these people would have been, and the seriousness, consideration, planing and risk that they'd have taken in their responsibilities there would have been nothing "just" or "merely" about their jobs. They would deliberately put themselves into high risk environments and, unlike their conventional colleagues, they would be expected to return safely. Another complexity is that people from Iga and Koga were known to establish intelligence networks to share and trade information amongst themselves and to cultivate sources from the community. So, although there might be a jizamurai from Iga or Koga investigating something, their informants from the community could also be described as and understood as shinobi. Anyway, I pretty much agree with you. There's no less skill between the reality of how people did "ninja" work historically and the impressive circus tricks that TV "ninja" display.

Ok nerd

not all of them.

ok nerd

​@@NostalgicMem0ries, No he honors them correctly. You're the poor student.

A shame he did not mention Shoto Tanemura of the Genbukan... Takamatsu Sensei s black sheep

@@NostalgicMem0ries ,so you feel inferior and have to put him down. Be better.

This commenter is right. Mishmashing the word Jinenkan into a hybrid confusion with Hatsumi reeks of an AI mixup. A researching human would not have garbled these things together. If you don't know, it's because you don't know. He set straight facts about the scenario. And Genbukan didn't need mentioning because it wasn't relevant in context to the video's content. Jinenkan however was addressed and yes - completely erroneously. It's a wonder even how this mixup could come about, even via AI. Is the point of the video to inform? Or to make the theoretical author feel better about needing some improvement of the presented info even though it's going to misinform people about a thing?

yes if it wasnt for him japans history could have been very different! because he and his ninjas saved tokugawas life

@@fourshore502 yepp you are exactly correct my friend he was the personal bodyguard Shogun Tokugawa ❤️❤️❤️

Yes I used to Train as a ninja So that I could become the best dragon ninja like tokugawa

I love the Tokugawa Shogunate

Hanzo was a traitor that went to work for the Tokugawa after he helped them burn Iga down to the ground

This is not real life lol

Except Sasuke was legitimately a stealth ninja.

​@Lemuel928 there no this isn't real at all.

Untill he dreamt and create Kaiju in the series

These were all real people fellas, or legends!

Who were mostly samurai

​@@fatdan172501actually no. They were mostly peasants. Sure you had some ronin around but they were peasants. Their weapons and tactics reflect this.

​@@OmniMale I heard that about half of them were women.

@@andremiller1566 lol. Can't tell you. As peasants who basically practiced guerrilla warfare, I wouldn't be surprised.

Not at all

Not even close???

@ghdude8372 no, that's not what they were

@@LIONTAMER3D that’s what I’m telling HIM

They were more like clans but even some Samurai families like the Hattori hailed from Ninja clans and rose in ranks during the Sengoku Period

@@Thiago_Alves_Souza from what I know is the other way around. Samurai formed clans and some of them happen to be specialized in ninjutsu.

@@signor_zuzzu Hanzo himself is a descendant of the Iga, which were formed by villagers. Some were lower class and high class. Later on yes, that type of training was only given to someone descendant from the Iga or Kōga clans which in time served Daimiyōs and rose to the samruai class like the Hattoris under Tokugawa; and the samurai who would be also trained in Ninjutsu. It's similar to European history where saboteurs or spies of lower classes would be later be made landed knights.

Shinobi WERE samurai.

​​@@fatdan172501 the video literally starts with, and I quote, " the ninja were a warrior class". That's historically incorrect, Ninja (shinobi) it's not a class like samurai, it's a job that anyone can do.

I won’t fault your logic, but it is unreasonable to believe that with such a notorious occupation that your accomplishments won’t be sung until long after everyone involved was dead?

You’re not wrong. Many ninjas in anime, manga, games, and movies and TV shows in Japan got their names from these historical figures.

Well yeah, famous folklore tends to be used as source materials for a fictional story

@@zacharytate430 Thank you I thought I was losing it.

徳川幕府の初代将軍としてなら間違っていないと思います。 よく初代将軍と言われる事がある。

Hey there fellow Takamatsu-den practitioner (I guess, you might be affiliated with Bujinkan, Jinenkan, Genbukan, To-Shin Do, AKBAN, whatever)! I think that this video essay was written by AI, it goes deeper than occasional use of AI generative art into the script. It's like someone (or something!) took pieces of information from the internet and stitched it together in a way that sounds cohesive but fails to get the whole thing correct. And it's not like there's a shortage of videos and photos of Hatsumi, or even Takamatsu.

@nirkoblenc6870 Howdy , fellow Takanatsu-den practitioner... I thought that was probably what was going on, and thank you very much for that input. Just wanted to air that correction. Thanks, and be safe out there ...

@@BrokenTengu99 Thank you and stay safe too! Have a productive and fun practice!

@nirkoblenc6870 And You as well!

La bujinkan es un negocio muy rentable ,y no es ninjutsu.......

Jin Sakai is a fictional character, he never existed. The way of the ghost fighting tactics were inspired by real historical events though.

The Vikings?

​@@Dowhatkennydoesthey lost numerous times..and then conquered

@@Heartscarrs vikings have some most legendary warriors & leaders.

Idk u could definitely argue that Zulu were in that conversation considering they innovated gorilla warfare nd nearly perfected encirclement formations while facing far more superior armed forces

@@caleb8593 ancient India & Vietnam are underrated. They defeated Mongols more than once I think

That was a samurai school

You forgot that hokage is a fiction

​@@aaronjohnson1286and you forgot how to soot a joke.

They used both

7:52

Thank you, what I meant to say was that his name was a title, not a surname.

I could have sworn ninja started out as farmers oppressed by the samurai and the Shoguns they served that started to fight back

@@sean5558nope. They were Samurai who did scouting and spying. Most of what we think we know about ninjas and ninjutsu comes from manga in the 1910’s.

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