I swear, seeing and playing Sega arcade racers just makes me indescribably happy every time.

I absolutely adore this game. Our local arcade had the deluxe 50" screen edition, and playing it like that was something even more special.

Thanks for this! I own the SR2 duel arcade machine, it’s as you say amazing speed and the road feel on the wheel is perfect,, you feel the bumps on the wooden bridge and the tires feel loose in the snow level, truly amazing fun. I never use the e-brake but have the down shifts just right. E brake is too far away from the wheel to be useful, was thinking of putting a extension bar on to see how effective the brake is. Love your channel! Btw I got a Model 3 Scud Race but having trouble with the sound when plugged into the Sega Rally 2 cabinet, I’m almost there just need the right sound amp.

Whenever you feature these amazing Sega arcade racing games I just have to groan that Sega continues to leave so many AMAZING titles wallowing in the purgatory that is niche emulation. Where is our Super GT?! Where's our Indy 500?! Our Outrunners?! Our arcade perfect Sega Rally 2?! Sega needs to announce an arcade racer collection YESTERDAY!

Great video! I'm currently remaking Sega Rally in Unreal Engine 5 and it's been a pleasure to learn as much as possible about this franchise. But I honestly think the first one is still the best in pretty much everything: visual style, music, handling, console port. They actually went back to a more saturated look with SR3 and I overall prefer it to SR2.

Sega Rally 2 cabinet had such good Force Feedback! It was one of my favorites to play

I've been replaying Sega Rally Revo recently, that one is fantastic too.

Nice retrospective. It's a shame due to certain technical limitations, that it didn"t look as cherry and bright, like the arcade version, but at least the dreamcast port was still good enough. One thing I always wished for, is that I wish this game, had about 30 stages/race courses. Games this good, deserve tons of race courses, and more cool music tracks.👍😄

I remember playing the rotating arcade version back in the day. It was amazing. I haven't seen the rotating version for decades now. I'd love to play it again

Every single game Tetsuya Mizuguchi has ever had a hand in making has always been absolute gold! On a tangent, I would love to see him revisiting Sega Rally but with the style and flair of Tetris Effect - that would be wild. :D

I love Sega games from that time period, they always had something unique about them.

when I was 20, I beat this SEGA Rally 2 arcade every time in the SEGA arcade amusement in Shanghai.

The main menu theme is stuck in my head, pretty catchy

Sega rally 2 was perfect till I played revo. The dirt effects and the fact that the tracks degraded each lap made that game pure magic 😊

Oh yeah, one of my favorite game of all time. A lot of coins used on this arcade version.

Looks amazing.

Gorgeous game! Downloading the Model 3 emulator once again.

This is one of the Sega games some of my buddies clamor about and I haven't budged enough to check them out.

Thanks for all your wonderful content, where was the initial shot of the racing cabs taken?

I was never good at this game, but the Desert track music is secks-to-my-eardrums. Jun Senoue of Crush 40 composed that track. We had a Sega Rally 2 deluxe machine in Spartanburg at Mr. Gatti's until about 2011 or so when all their Model 3 games were being swapped with LCDs from their original projection screens. :\ Now it's closed. Graphically you could think the arcade version was from 2008 if you never played it! There was a PC port also that I downloaded way back when I was in middle school and that was actually fun to play. As a collector of Model 3 related hardware, this runs on M3 Step 2.0 and it is one of the easier Step 2 games to convert from another game to since it does not use a security chip like the later games (Daytona 2, Star Wars, Spikeout, etc.). I have a Virtua Striker 2 '99 ROM Board I've been wanting to set up as this game but one of the pins broke off the chips (27C322), and they're sadly a pain to solder back on! Fortunately I've been getting more patient and better at conversions after using the rest of my blank chips to set up Scud Race Plus (M3 Step 1.5) from regular Super GT. ;)

Hi Sir are there still not sound from the cars engine in sega rally 2 in sega model 3 emulator last update ?

I have the PC version of this, which I run on a PC I built with a Voodoo 3. I think it's a pretty good version - it's basically the same as the DC version, but without the performance issues. It runs perfectly on my system. I think possibly it can run at up to 75Hz, though I'm not sure about that. It also runs at a higher resolution than the DC version.

I agree VGE. Sega Rally Championship may have been an iconic title for it's time in the mid-90's. But the squeal was better polished in just about every way possible.Haven't played this game in quite sometime. Now I have the urge to do so. 8^) Anthony...

Loving the racing series. What sort of PC hardware is needed to emulate with good quality?

ive always wanted a lancia, its the car wheel jack was in transformers

I played the arcade version at a cinema not long ago and it had severe graphical glitches, it then crashed when I got to the snow level.

Something I always used to hate with sega's racing games, as fun as they were would always start you way in the back of the running order as opposed to putting in a qualifying stage to determine where you'd start.

It's really interesting how muddy the Dreamcast colors are. Most DC games are usually quite vibrant.

Everyone is saying it including your good self VGE, but honestly I think we need to constantly remind ourselves of this watershed moment in arcade technology! Just look at what came out with model 3, SR2, Scudrace, Daytona USA 2… all with mind boggling graphics for their time! Sega Rally 2 was probably the most playable of the above imo and the deluxe sit down of this was an absolute beast!! Happy memories that can indeed be relived (to some degree) with supermodel!!🥰

Why wasn't Dreamcast based on something Model 3? Was it cost or ease of development?

Another great video! While the Dreamcast port is still an excellent game and was obviously never going to be a 1-2-1 conversion it was a major disappointment as a port compared to the pure sorcery they pulled off with the Saturn port of the first game.

I'd love a SuperModel emulator tutorial for Steam Deck. I just can't seem to figure it out since the Steam Deck is my first ever PC gaming experience. I was able to figure out the Emudeck stuff at least!

In the Dreamcast emulator Redream you can emulate SEGA Rally 2.. and upscaling it makes it very close to the Model 3 original. Even runs at 60 fps. I still prefer the Model 3 version of course, because nothing can beat that, but the 10 year Championship mode in the Dreamcast version is very fun...

I had an Akura for 10 minutes and sent it back. I do Dreamcast though S-video into the 5x. Looks fantastic. Anyways I didn't know Super model could force 16:9. I've been playing it at sub HD. This, Scud Race, Daytona 2 and the GOAT Emergency call Ambulance.

How is the pc version compare with that (I remember to play it back in the early 2000's )

you disappoint me........ no sega rally 2 deluxe footage........ its slightly different to sega rally 2, you should go play it now, that repsol escort really pops!! ;) great video :)

I run this in 21:9 but it has a lot of issues, often I start the game and the Car Select screen shows no cars and same with stage select and all the pre-race options, sometimes it works fine, and I can't figure out what if is causing the inconsistencies.

SuperModel is a gift from gods !

I'm starting to feel like 1 video each day just isn't enough.

Spent many many an evening on these back then. The handling on sega rally 2 in dreamcast just wasn't as silky smooth as the first. Always go with the first!

I remember the PC version had graphical issues that made it unplayable... really wish I can get a used laptop capable of running super model 3 ! (My laptop died of Bios bit rot)

been playing this this year at a arcade bar, filling up the times on championship and time attacks for the 4stages, even the top8 for each car now (as when the top8 is filled, it cuts to a top8 for each car, its a great game but SR1 is a better multiplayer casual game, SR2 for time runs :)

Nice review! I think you've totally nailed my biggest disappointment with the Dreamcast version with the use of Windows CE - the fact that although the Dreamcast couldn't match the Model 3, we could've got a version that looked soooo much better. The crappy frame rate, drab colours and poor draw distance really make it feel like a substandard port. You only need to look at DC Daytona USA (60fps, no draw distance, bright and colourful, nice specular lighting effects on the cars) to see just how much better it could've been.

Oh yeah, what a gem of a game ! Only thing I don't agree here is that I do think this would've been possible on original Xbox. The track and environment are really well done and hi poly, but when it comes to cars, I'm pretty sure something like PGR2 are more detailed vehicles, so I don't think you'd have to wait for 360 to port it. Wonder what the original resolution it was on Model 3 ? But I do think it would be possible on OG Xbox !

Yep it was a great sequel

Excellent game. I think OG Sega Rally is my favorite arcade racing game. I found SR 2 easier and I prefer the handling of SR1, but even so it's a great follow-up. Wish I'd gotten a chance to play them in arcades. Thankfully m2 and Supermodel exists. Though I hope MAME will eventually handle at least SR1 since M2 is already starting to bit rot.

I thought DC would run model 3. Man was I wrong, but model 2 should run. Those rescue games I'd enjoy since I can't Plat jambo safari.

I played this in the arcade today and it was much much slower than what you're showing here. I've played it on supermodel and it was much faster. I wonder if it's because it was PAL. But it was really quite noticeable.

I don't care what the paper specs say. The Model 3 was more powerful than the Naomi and DC, full stop. There's nothing that compares with the likes of Sega Rally 2 and Daytona 2. Model 3 was an expensive, custom made hardware, Naomi/DC was a cheap, consumer based hardware. Only Naomi 2 comes close to what the Model 3 could do, especially the latest revisions.

I had to go check the Model 3's spec sheets again, and it is in fact not as powerful as Naomi/DC. I'm not sure where the interwebs gets these ideas, but even Moore's Law dictates Naomi should be more capable, and it is by at least three times as many texture mapped, lit, polys per second. 640x480 is the highest resolution for both, but the PowerVR DC can and has rendered internally above that and output at standard def for anti aliasing. Sega Rally 2 was just a WinCE port, DC launch games showed more of what the system could do at a solid framerate.

While NAOMI wasn't really as powerful as Model 3 Step 2, the difference in price was massive: NAOMI boards were about $1995 while Model 3 Step 1 was around $20000. Dreamcast was a bit slower than NAOMI however and as you mentioned, WinCE didn't do it any favours. One fancy characteristic of the PowerVR2 GPU was its ability to render compressed textures on the fly but it came with a color quality cost. It doesn't seem that the SR2 Dreamcast developers accounted for this.

Model 3 was bloody amazing but so prohibitively expensive it was sort of that tipping point where you saw barely any machines on location as operators just stuck with their Daytona 1 and Sega Rally 1 cabinets.

To add my uninformed opinion of the lighting query, I noticed that seemingly all model2/3 games use full-bright textures and hard shadows. I suspect that for all the model3's polygon pushing grunt it couldn't do gouraud shading and texturing simultaneously? What lighting there is seems to be baked into the textures. One of the PowerVR's headline features and what reviewers talked about back in the PC add-in card days was its ability to do "lighting" which typically meant blending gouraud shaded polygons for vertex lighting with texturing + fog in a single operation. Like so many devs the DC porting team probably looked at all these options for fancy rendering and couldn't help themselves, telling the boss it would "look better" (and possibly run slower...)

Wasn't Model 3 developed by people who made graphical simulations for the military? And they were supposed to make a model 4?

I wouldn't say this is quite Xbox 360 level graphics but is halfway between Xbox and Xbox 360 looking like a high end pc game from like 2003-2004 or about the same time Doom 3 came out on pc. It's got that pretty high end DirectX 9 look and this is based off of hardware that originally came out in 1996 which is crazy. There were two arcade systems that I remember as a teenager looking mind blowing being a generation and a half beyond anything you seen at home. Ultra 64 and Model 3.

They made a sega rally 3?

Never played the arcade version but the only DC game or anything DC related still in my collection is a JP copy of this.

I don't think these two comparisons with the arcade and DC versions are a bit unfair. You have the arcade at 4k resolution at 60 fps with the DC version running which looks like it's the native resolution. Also as far as I understand, they only spent 3 months converting the game but in my opinion they could have done a better job if they had more time. Overall I thought it was a good conversion wich could have been better.

My fav version was actually the win98 version. Too bad there's no way to play it on modern machines!

Unpopular opinion : I prefer Sega Rally 3 over the two previous episodes 😅 This one also suffers from an hazardous port and is still unique and fun to play now. But I am french, therefore during the Sega Rally 2 era we were under V-Rally 2 propaganda which was developped locally and pushed SR2 out of the console realm from there. Regarding the Model 3 vs Dreamcast/Naomi hardware specs theoretical battle I think you are mistaken, althought in the case of Sega Rally 2 the Dreamcast didn't win much. The Dreamcast version could have theorically caught up with the Model 3 version but I believe everyone is missing out on the benefits added to the Windows (DirectX) port. And I would not recommend trying this game on the Model3 emulator yet as it seems to lack of several graphical effects such as fog and shadows compared to real hardware. One thing I never see mentionned are the exclusive dynamic lights only appearing on the Dreamcast/Windows version which could be seen when the rear lights turns on or a fire popping off the exhaust. And since the shadows looks so much different there might be several other graphical benefits that we don't truly notice since the artistic direction given to those new effects didnt translate well into this Sega Rally 2 port/PortOfaPort/upgrade/downgrade/bewilderment. I believe in that time every SEGA studios were asked to make full use of every single new hardware accelerated graphical features which is why we saw some drammatic changes in the lighting system on the Sega Rally 2 port or even the Daytona USA 2001 port where they irrationally tried to implement every single new features the Dreamcast boasts compared to the classic version. Rieko Kodama once said in an interview about Skies of Arcadia that her boss told her to use transparency as much as they could since the Sega Saturn has been humiliated by the Playstation in that field given the Saturn didn't have this graphical feature so I can only imagine the amount of requests other SEGA devs were given around that time. The Model 3 vs Katana/Dreamcast/Naomi topic deserves an entire investigation on its own as comparisons between the two hardwares are not that easy. The Dreamcast relies on smart hardware accelerated graphical features while the Model 3 lacks of most of these things and relies on bigger RAM chips as well as raw compute power instead. It got better with time which was proven by the Virtua Fighter 3 port or Fighting Vipers 2's port looking nearly arcade perfect while the Soul Calibur Dreamcast Port/Upgrade has had enough time to aprehend this new hardware to then outshine both its own arcade version and Model 3's Fighting Vipers 2 version as well on a technical standpoint.

This could have been a lot better if they didn't use WIndows CE the other Racers on the console prove this. Also the handling on the Dreamcast game is completely different to the Arcade original

A much better DC port was definitely possible without the CE middleware , or even with. Pretty sure this was rushed to a deadline. I'd love to see a new crack at it.

I always assumed the DC version was a windows port. No way they used WindowsCE because it was the better than the native OS.

Where the hell is SCUD RACE…. We want that game on a console and after 25 years still nothing

hey! i'm making a 3do M2 replica (not with the same hardware of course!). I've made the 3D model (very close to the original). do you want to join to make a MINI 3DO M2 KICKSTARTER CAMPAIN?

I can't run Sega Rally 2 like you do. Supermodel is so unstable. Also I do think Naomi can punch above Model 3. I mean I think Ferreri 355 looks on par or even better than Model 2's Sega Rally 2 and Daytona 2001 can looks comparable to Daytona 2...

I would say on par with PS2 or Xbox, since the rally games on those system surpasses Sega Rally 2 visually. 360 graphics on the other hand are on a whole different level. Too bad Sega Rally 2 on Dreamcast was made with Windows CE due to Sega wanting easy porting to the PC.

yes! sega rally great racing game but it's been removed from steam

You are right to insist on how amazing for its time the visuals were, but they were absolutely not out of reach of the Dreamcast. The port was a total let down, just like the PC port of Sega gt sucked balls. It's a real missed opportunity for Sega to properly bring this gem on the home console. Remember that both F355 Challenge, and Crazy taxi were more demanding games and were perfect ports from Naomi.

Wow the Dreamcast is drab. Wonder if you can Ghidra decompile it and fix whatever the hell windows ce does with the light and textures, because Daytona doesn’t look so bland

in same time the pc version was better than the dreamcast version.

Why is the Dreamcast version so dark?

DC version of VF3 was almost perfect. Dc could of some model 3 games. But that window ce is garbage

It’s disgraceful that the Dreamcast version of Sega Rally 2, a Sega arcade game, looks so dreary and non-right and uncolorful. How was that possible? Sega betrayed the blue sky. Other games on DC were able to have bright lively colors…it seems like a deliberate decision by someone. I was pumped to try it in emulation and it was shocking.